 It's so quiet. Hopefully my video and audio is working Is good Well, it's 9 o 2. Good morning, everyone. Good morning Good morning. So we all try to transition to another work week here So it looks to me like we've got everybody attack except possibly Fergie I haven't seen her join yet, but we'll go ahead and get started Recognizing the time here so Before we do the roll call just want to remind everybody because this is a virtual meeting To just state your full name When doing the roll call or when making comments and asking questions And then obviously if you're not speaking if you can keep your phone on mute Just cut down on any background noise And I like to go ahead and and ask Easter to go ahead and do the roll call Easter a gene. I'm not sure which one's doing it Hey, it's Easter. I want to do that today for City of Cotate Big Scott City of Cotate City of Petaluma Kent Corrothera City of Petaluma City of Runner Park Mary Grace Poston City of Runner Park City of Santa Rosa Jennifer Burke Santa Rosa water City of Sonoma North Marin Water District Drew McIntyre North Marin Water District Town of Windsor Christina Goulart's Town of Windsor Valley of the Moon Water District Matt Fullner Valley the Moon Water District Marin Municipal Water District I saw Lucy's Say something but I couldn't hear I don't see that she's on mute Lucy Croy Marin Water. There we go. Thank you, Lucy All right and for staff and public attendees just one moment We have Jean and Perez Grant Davis Jay Gispers Pam Jean Paul Piazza Barry Dugan Bob Anderson Brad Sherwood Brenda Edelman Claire Nordley Collin Close David Keller Evan Jacobs Margaret DeGenova Peter Martin Sandy Potter Steven Hancock Tony Williams And Ben Harnstein Okay. Thank you, Easter. Um, okay next next item after doing roll call is to Open it up for public comment. These are Items that are not on the agenda So I'm going to go ahead and start public comments If you wish to make a couple of public comment again for a non-agenda item via zoom Please raise your hand or dial star nine if you're participating by phone Gina are you seeing any indication of any public comments? I do have one hand raised for Brenda Edelman, so I'm going to enable her ability to talk Okay, Brenda, you should be able to speak now Okay, thank you very much. Um I saw the presentation the other day on drought for the lower russian river and I thought it was very well done, but I have to make one comment in the presentation By Grant and Don Seymour Um There was really no mention of impacts to the lower russian river their presentation Which was very well done for as far as it went Really didn't say anything about the impacts to the lower river I think other presenters made excellent comments So it may just be that you thought you didn't need to say anything because Others would cover it, but It concerns me that there's no attention Being publicly made by the water agency Uh about concerns about this whole situation And the main point I want to make is that there's going to be dire impacts to everybody and I understand that um But there is The controversy for me Is going from 85 cfs at hacienda to 35 cfs at hacienda Would just about kill the lower river in many ways and What concerns me is that there is still water in lake sonoma and I don't think there has been adequate analysis About why you can't send more Down to the lower river to come up with 50 or 60 cfs instead of 35 35 is going to do devastating damage to the lower river There's not going to be any water for recreation But the other concerns are about Toxic algae high bacteria counts um Bioconcentration of toxins It's going to be a public health nightmare because there will be people with their children and their pets Getting in the river no matter how much messaging was done And it would be nice to hear some attempt to um Make some adjustments to compensate for uh or not compensate but to Avoid any kind of devastating consequences to our part of the river Thank you Okay, thank you brinda Any other public comments for items not on the agenda Okay, just let the let the meeting minutes Note that I did not receive any comments via voicemail or email For agenda item two as well. It was had a cutoff at 5 p.m. Yesterday So we're going to move to agenda item number three election of attack leadership So this is this is something that that we've been seeing now every two years We have some some new attack leadership Protocols in place. So this is the this is the time now for uh Jennifer and I to be reaffirmed essentially which Or what would be the the second and last two year term for the current leadership as organized Or obviously the attack could elect to make a change and and uh Come up with a different proposed leadership Uh configuration. So there's two options here Uh for the attack to consider one is to just reaffirm the existing leadership with me as the chair And jennifer berg is the vice chair or option two is to elect Uh a new leadership structure Uh, so before opening this up to any public comment I just want to see if there's and again in advance of taking any actions or any general Uh questions and comments from the attack All right, seeing none. I'm gonna go ahead and open this up for public comment If you wish to make a comment via zoom, please Raise your hand or dial star nine Gina, do you see any indication of any public comment? I'm not seeing any raised hands Hey, thank you, Gina and let the record reflect that I did not receive any public comments by 5 p.m. Yesterday as well Uh, so at this point in time I'd like to go ahead and bring it back to the tack For a motion and a second And this is calling Ferguson with city of sonoma. I am Move to continue with the existing excellent leadership of the tack Carothers will second that Okay, it's been motioned by city sonoma seconded by City of Petaluma to continue on with the current tack leadership configuration So, uh, Easter, can you go ahead and do a roll call, please? Yes, city of Cotati Craig Scott. Yes City of Petaluma Kent or others. Yes City of Burnett Park Mary Grace Paulson. Yes City of Santa Rosa Jennifer Burke. Yes City of Sonoma Colleen Ferguson. Yes North Marin Water District Drew McIntyre. North Marin Water District. Yes Town of Windsor Christina Aguilar. Town of Windsor. Yes Valley of the Moon Water District Pat Fuller. Valley of the Moon Water District. Yes That is agenda item number three. You name is approved. Uh, thank you, Easter. And again, thank you To the tack for your continued support and, uh Jennifer, um Thanks again for continuing to work as part of the tack chair as well. It's it's been a good working relationship And I expect nothing but the same to continue for the for the next two years Okay, let's move to agenda item number four water supply conditions and temporary urgency change petition update And uh, hopefully Don Seymour is out doing something very fun this week And Pam Jean has graciously uh, agreed to fill in on some of these reports we typically hear from Don so Pam you want to go ahead and Unmike yourself there. Yep Um, so hopefully everybody can hear me. Um, yeah, Don is doing something fun. So good for him Um, he's up in the mountains, which sounds lovely. So Um I'm not sure what's up on the screen here. This is Oh, that's just Actually, oh, this is your guys a slider to Eric. Okay. I got it Okay, so, um, I'll start with that then I'll start with the temporary urgency change Petition that was filed. Um a while back now and um, we the comment period for The petition ended last week, I think on wednesday if I have the dates, right? and um There were quite a few comments Received so they are working on responses to those comments right now or Working on incorporating them into an order As you can see the contractors and specifically the tax submitted comments on it We appreciate that. Um, they also certainly received comments from Lots of individuals as well as resource agencies Which those resource agency comment letters will have much bearing On what the order will look like in terms of conditions that will be set in the order So we heard from um Campbell and bryan who is sort of the lead in the unit the russian river unit at the state water board working on The temporary urgency change order That he expects will have the order by the end of this week So, um, he didn't say specifically what day, but um, they're they're hoping to get that order out to us by the end of the week so, um I don't know if there's anything else anybody might have questions on that but That's the current Um progress that that that's been made there and Um, I'm hopefully folks are are because it's been explained a couple times what the petition is requesting But um, if you have questions about that, I'm happy to answer those. Um So The um, the other thing that I will provide right now is an update on water supply conditions, which are not good um, as you know and Um specifically lake mendicino As of I think this was saturday that they the data that I have in front of me. Um was at uh 34,391 acre feet um We did uh projections of Lake mendicino storage In order to have 20,000 acre feet In the reservoir in october of this year and we're literally just several acre feet above that storage production right now So, um, it's looking okay right now, but um, we also haven't had terribly hot weather and a lot of demand so far So we'll see how that is going um as don Has said before to this group and into lots of groups now including a lot of members of the public Lake mendicino is in really bad condition It's essentially at a level that we'd like to see it at the end of the summer not at the beginning of the summer And so we of course are very concerned about it Getting very low and getting below the point where there's any water in the lake Going into the fall in case there's a dry fall and winter next year Um, and so that's of course what precipitated our temporary urgency change petition back in january um, and um our Sort of refiling because that petition runs out that order runs out in july so um, the other thing that that don has mentioned and already iterated here is that Uh simply changing minimum stream flow requirements To preserve storage is not going to save that reservoir this year and that There's going to have to be some pretty substantial Changes in normal use patterns of water that is released from that reservoir, which means that all those folks from Heelsburg north up to the reservoir itself Are going to need to do their best to either not use water at all for certain purposes or use a lot less water than they normally do so State water board is is extremely aware of this Which is one of the reasons why they're working so hard to get the the order out The other thing that they are working on though is an emergency I'm not going to get the proper terminology here. It's like a an emergency regulation. Sorry and um That emergency regulation, um will hopefully help them have some more tools so that they can um Not not just try to work even more than they have been working with folks diverters and water users in upper river, but also Um, it gives them just some more tools to in their in their tool belt to help them. Um, so With regards to water rights and water use by water rights holders. So that emergency regulation, um, I think is going to their board. I think the Regulation was released the end of last week um along with the agenda for the state water board meeting, which is on june 15th and um So they are asking if if folks support that regulation that they show up at the state water board meeting And voiced that support for the regulation. Of course, they you know That's assuming that you do support it. So They've made that pretty clear so Sorry got a little bit off track there, but I did want to mention that emergency regulation that was coming out or came out the proposal was out and Make sure that you guys were aware of that too So, um, as far as late Sonoma storage goes, um, it's not looking great either. We are at the lowest We've ever seen them the reservoir since it filled in 1986 And uh, we're at 137,804 acre feet as of saturday Which is pretty low and um To answer Brenda's question about why We're so concerned about lake Sonoma. Um, and it's because we've done projections um looking into the fall And we're really concerned that if we have another dry fall and winter, which we've had recently Uh two in a row and a couple years We didn't get any rainfall till february that we're going to um, be jeopardizing um Water for health and safety purposes if it continues if this drop continues and So that's why we're asking for the lower flows in the lower river. We recognize that it's not ideal um, but we also recognize that in a critical water year under our water rights That the flows that we're asking for is essentially what is in our walk our water rights permits right now And I would be hard-pressed to believe anybody who would tell me That we're not in a critical year this year. We are we were last year also and so um We're not asking for anything unusual or out of out of the realm of what's allowed on our water rights permits And so that's what we're asking for um Decision 1610 unfortunately is not reflective of our watershed and so um, if you look at our water rights permits In a critical year what that's the flows that we're asking for but we're not classified as critical this year And that's because of that disconnection between um, uh decision 1610 which sets those minimum flows and Like Pillsbury, which is an eel river, which is what determines what type of year we're in and the Russian River watershed Being a different watershed so again my my Opinion is is that we are in a critical year and uh again under decision 1610 these are the flows that we would be um shooting for in that type of a year so um, it's not It's it's extraordinary. We had in the in terms of we haven't actually had to operate this way um, but uh, at least in my tenure, but we were um Feeling like we really needed to protect that water supply for The hundreds of thousands of people who rely on it for health and safety and um, so that's why we filed the petition the way we filed it and if we're not getting the message out there We will work harder to do that. So um So I think that's it for my update drew Unless there's questions which i'm happy to answer Okay, thank you pam. Thank you also for following up and addressing Brenda's question So i'll now go ahead and open this up To tack questions and comments. I see jennifer's got her hand raised Thanks drill. Um, and pam. Thank you for Uh, the report I think we all continue to know we're in very dire conditions. So we appreciate the information and update I did have two questions. You may have mentioned this and I may have missed it, but in terms of the Emergency rulemaking did you say when that was going to be heard at the state water board? Yes, um, june 15th, which is next week. I don't remember what day of the week thursday to wednesday thursday Next week. I can't remember what day the week it is. Okay. Thank you. I had a feeling. I missed that I was scribbling notes frantically. Do I have that right grand? Do I just yeah, okay? Notting this in And then in terms of the comments that were received on the temporary urgency change petition I know they don't normally post them on the website um, is there any sort of general Summary or information that you might be able to provide on what we might see in terms of How that might affect the order? Based on comments received and if not, that's okay. I just yeah, I don't I don't know if I could say specifically I think certainly the I would expect that Everything that the resource agencies are requesting in terms of Habitat monitoring water quality monitoring those types of things I would expect those to just get incorporated into the order. Typically that's the kind of Request that the state water board is actually looking for input from those agencies in order to put those conditions or terms in the order So I would expect those to just show up in terms of I think the vast majority of the requests coming from My understanding is coming from I think mostly folks are concerned about the the lower river We're a request that instead of allowing the 35 cubic feet per second, which we're asking for allowing a 60 cubic feet per second minimum So I don't I don't know how the state water board is going to address that exactly, but I do know That um that they are also very concerned about like Sonoma They're they're extremely concerned about Lake Menesina because there's you know projections out there that show that lake could go dry But they're also very very concerned about Lake Sonoma and it's from a health and safety perspective There's a lot of people Who are reliant on that reservoir for health and safety purposes and they're concerned that if we have another dry winter That that is going to be a problem Um for that reservoir The the other thing that they are I know they're taking into consideration because we've We've heard Sam say this is that you know, we have these Sort of maximum release requirements at Lake Sonoma for endangered species purposes for flow and dry creek not being too high and um if if they increase the minimum flow to the The 60 which I think what several folks have have indicated they're asking for We would be out of compliance with the endangered species act and our instill take permit under our biological opinions, so That's a problem and they don't um, I'm sure you know, they're aware of that I don't know how they're going to handle it, but I'm sure that they are not particularly interested in And us violating our instill take permit or instill take statement to under the federal endangered species act, so But we'll have to see how they deal with that once we see the order Thanks, Pam. I appreciate the update Any other questions from the tack before I open her up to public comment? Pam Just a couple quick questions. I had once the order is received Can you remind me how long does it typically take the agency to actually Make any changes on releases? Sometimes we've made them that day But we are Unfortunately, just because of the what physically is going on at both reservoirs right now Lake Mendocino The power plant is not operating the city of ucaia's power Hydro power plant is not operating so the core Is actually having to make it physically make make gate changes up there. So there is some lag time And they're not making those changes over the weekend So say we got this thing on Friday afternoon at five o'clock. We would not probably be able to make a change At Lake Mendocino, which we don't need to make a change there, but that change wouldn't happen until the next week Lake Sonoma is kind of the same issue The core of engineers has to physically because the the hydro plant is not operating The core Get gate tenders have to actually go make that change Typically, we can't get that change made over a weekend. So So it may be a few days before we can make a change But we will ask for it immediately when we get the order So it just may take a few a few days for them to actually physically get out there and do it Okay, thanks all right Again, we're we are on agenda item number four We're going to go ahead and open it up for public comments. If you wish to make a comment via zoom, please raise your hand Or dial star nine by phone True, I do have one hand. I have two hands raised. Um, first one is Brenda Edelman. I'm gonna enable her to speak Go ahead Brenda Brenda. Thank you. There we go. Okay. All right. Um, I just have brief comment At a casual review, I've been watching the levels go down at both reservoirs and It just seems to me Without studying specific numbers that it's been going down faster than usual and that This may be a mistake on my part. I know that the contractors are doing a lot of work on gearing up for conservation, but it just seemed like in 2014 There was a lot more being done at this point in time than I've seen lately Um, and one of the big issues I've seen articles on how much growth and development Is going through The process in roner park and santa rosa thousands of units are being approved And I've also seen letters to the editors that say why should we save water? If it's just going to go towards new development and this is a serious issue and It's a big question that that needs to be answered If you are going to support devastating impacts to the lower river because To save the fish In one part of the river and dry creek and kill them and another is ridiculous that Basically The biological opinion doesn't really have much in the way of protections for the fish in the lower river Believe it or not The focus is on dry creek and on the estuary so I I don't feel I've seen enough in the way of conservation efforts I don't see enough programs That do things like cash for grass, which I know was very successful um I just think that the contractors really need to gear up and And act as though there's a critical emergency going on in terms of conservation And I know I'm not the only one who is making that observation Um Anyway, that was my main comment Okay, thanks Brenda. I would like to acknowledge that Diversions to the retail water contractors are down almost 30 percent Brenda than what they were um over 10 years ago. So there's been a significant Reduction in demands Off of the russian river by the contractors and I said One more thing is There was a significant demand, but the last couple of years it's been going back up again So if you look at the numbers of 10 years ago, yes, there's been big improvement But given our current circumstances, you have I think a lot further to go before you even match the Accomplishments of 2015 and 16 Thank you Okay, thanks Brenda. Uh, uh, jeana we had another comment from the public Yes, I have david teller. So i'm gonna allow him to speak as well Okay, david your uh mike has been enabled. Okay. Thank you. Good morning. Uh david teller friends neil river Thanks for this discussion. I'm just uh going through the draft order on the state board website And the current talent orders for the upper and middle reach of the russian are dependent on storage levels by date at lake mendicino um And one of the questions that I asked sam boland brian Was what is enforcement in the upper river? And he relayed that since the state board has only Funded 20 enforcement positions for the entire state He was not very optimistic that there would be enforcement staff out Particularly for those Divertives on the upper and middle russian who are not permitted or licensed And that becomes a burden again on the on uh, Sonoma County Waterations use ability to manage water levels at lake mendicino since you have your minimum 1610 flows And if water is diverted beyond that You've got to make it up Is it Do you see anything? I do you see anything that? Can be done Uh to help maintain your water supply at lake mendicino I guess it's a question for pam or for grant Maintaining that water supply and being able to assist in Identifying where losses are that are not being reported to the state board state boards requiring reports from rights holders within seven days Which can be kind of slow as you're trying to manage daily releases Do you see any any? Any capability or any any Entity Whether it's another agency or not that could assist in identifying losses that are should not be happening that you're having to make up for Um, actually we do expect, um, we've talked to the state water board about this to try to help them Um, understand where perhaps there's more water being used than than we would expect so One of the things that we anticipate will be in the order that we receive is um Some analysis by reach in the river. So this is would be between the gauges So for example between the hoplin gauge and the cloverdale gauge Um, we would we have data historical data for reach losses or losses of how much water Is being either used or being used used by people or by riparian vegetation or evaporated Because we can see the difference in flow in those two gauges. So One of the things as as I was sorry, I started to say is we we are anticipating that um, they're going to require us to provide information about losses reach losses and um Provide that data sort of in a in a historic current data in a historical context So in other words, we have this historical data. We can compare it to what we're seeing today And if there's some really big difference there, um, that may lead them to believe that there's some Extra water use going on may or may not have anything to do with with people it may May have to do with heat or whatever but We do anticipate that we'll be providing that information to the state water board We anticipate it'll be required that we provide it to the state water board um in order to give them some some more data on Just that type of information and where they might want to go out if they have only a handful of enforcement people Where they might want to concentrate their effort Okay, I appreciate that and hope that that Gives the state board a little bit more push to pay attention I'm also encouraging state board members to fund additional enforcement officers In the coming budgets because As sample and brian said even if they hired more Or went out to hire more enforcement agents now they couldn't be trained qualified and sent out in the field this year So it's it's a real problem and I encourage all of the contractors to Let the state water board members know that the russian river watershed needs enforcement officers And they need to get the the legislature and the governor to fund it It's a real problem Also a follow-up question. Um, are you aware at this point of any of the cities? Um And the mendicino water districts instituting mandatory curtailments on deliveries for their customers Several of the districts up there have already well at least one of them has already implemented They cut off redwood valley county water district Cut off all their ag water use and they are down to health and safety of 55 gallons per person per day in their district um The flood control district up there, which is the our sister agency that shares the water right for stored water and like mendicino um they are I don't want to use the word rationing because that's not right, but they are working with their customers to allocate um, what what is available to them And um, so that's already happening also. So they are doing um A lot of work Beth up there is doing a lot of work to coordinate with her customers to try to sort of flatten their demand out So um, her customers are getting uh, a lot there's been a lot of interaction between The district and their customers to make sure that that happens Um, so we're she's trying to sort of flatten their demand out make sure we don't have spikes sort of spread Their use out, you know over say a week And she's providing information to her customers every week about you know Here's your schedule. So she's sort of scheduling their usage Okay, great. Thank you. Hopefully the rest of the cities, um, drawing water from the russian will, uh, institute mandatory for gentlemen's shortly Thank you very much Gina any other public comments on agenda item number four I'm not seeing any other hands Okay, again, and I uh east drive Can't recall if I stated this but just again for the record that I did not receive any voicemails or emails prior to the 5 p.m. Cut off yesterday On agenda item number four as well So I'm sorry. I just had one more hand pop up for evan jacob Okay I will go ahead and enable his ability to speak Hi, good morning everyone evan jacob's california american water Just wanted to let the group know that we went ahead and filed For mandatory conservation measures in our geyserville system Um with the puc last week and that takes about 30 days for them to approve and we'll have a public hearing virtually on june 17th on our order Okay, thank you kevin okay, um Jennifer Bert Do you have a comment? Thank you drew I just wanted to um, just take a moment to sort of reassure Um, Brenda that we have been very very active in requesting water conservation activities Um, we started as the partnership Uh, a dry year campaign in december of last year We have been promoting that campaign very actively Um, I know that for I can only speak for santa rosa But we have 25 different rebate and incentive programs that are available including cash for grass We recently Increased the amount that we rebate for our cash for grass program And we have been uh supplementing all the activities of the partnership Recently we switched over to a drought campaign from the dry year campaign And it's really been a very robust Campaign with lots of information. I think you're going to hear a little bit more in the next item We have a big regional drought drop by event that's happening this saturday So I I really just want to Reassure and and make sure that everyone's aware that we have been messaging significantly Implementing programs Again, I can only speak for santa rosa, but we started our water waste patrols in uh last month We adopted our request for 20 reduction in water use Um, and as drew mentioned, we've all seen significant reductions Um for santa rosa in particular since 1990 We've had a doubling in population and our total water use has decreased by 14 percent So new development is required to be very very efficient And we take that into account as we're working with our communities to request reductions in water use So Again, just wanted to reassure that there's a very active campaign You can find out information about it and you'll hear hear a little bit more in the next item This is jeena. I'm sorry. We have an additional public speaker Uh bob anderson and i'm going to go ahead and enable his ability to talk Bob you there I am thank you. I just wanted to respond as a great parents the city of huelsburg the city has sent out mandatory Conservation 20 percent Okay, thanks bob okay, I think we've uh Finished on agenda item number four and then we're going to segue just kind of you know jennifer was talking about just what the partnership has been doing and um Locally just over this last year and and as she indicated Paul piazza will be diving into that in more detail under the partnership discussion the first item under the partnership though is is an important Action item this is uh going to be covered by paul piazza. It's essentially Uh follows up on the partnerships efforts to try to expand In the sonoma in marin region additional cities into the partnership because of Our interest and focus on trying to do as much as we can to conserve water and and branch out even above and beyond the water contractors so Uh the partnership has grown Uh over the years and most recently Back in 2019, uh cal american was added early in the year and then in the summer We also had heelsburg Add added so again this I think it's really important is we're trying to communicate to the community as a whole that Conservation is important and the more people that we can Have join along the russian river and the partnership the better it is for the russian river and its entirety So we have a new potential member. This is an action item again, and it's city of clover dale I'm going to turn this over to paul yaza Thank you, drew uh, just want to do a sound check make sure you can hear me again loud and clear all right, thank you so um Last fall or actually I think last summer we entertained an initial request by The city of clover dale, um regarding Becoming a member of the synomrin saving water partnership one of the considerations for the Change to the mo u that occurred back in 2018 was to streamline the addition of new partners into the A membership that were non contractors. So the mo u does allow um New agencies that either have a water supply connection to the russian river Or otherwise interested in water use efficiency such as some have been newly formed Groundwater sustainability agencies to have a process for becoming members. So um In april the city council of clover dale Heard a measure and passed a resolution and support of execution of the mo u to become a member They also agreed to budget and expand what would be needed for The annual fees for membership and also for the consideration of local water conservation programming match. So I'm just so those that are participating today that are not aware In addition to the annual fees required Um, there is a local program spend that's also required. That's 175 of the annual fee And those monies are budgeted and expended by those partners To implement additional water conservation programming for their constituency So for clover dale The annual fee Is just over $22,000 Or is $22,000 annually. They're also required to have a local program match of $38,500 the mo u specifies that the Initial inquiry to become a membership of the partnership Be heard by the tack water conservation subcommittee for approval That occurred in may We had a regular quarterly meeting of the water conservation subcommittee and that Motion was approved for recommendation today for the tack to consider clover dale's entry into the partnership Um, so with that That's all I have in terms of updates Um, once the motion is considered We do have staff attending the meeting from city of clover dale Who have interest in saying a few comments as well? Okay, thank you paul Turn it back to the tack members for any questions and comments again. This is an action item Don't see anybody from the tack So we'll now go ahead and open this up to the public if you wish to make a comment via zoom Please raise your hand or dial star nine on your phone Gina any indication of any public comments? I do not see any raised hands Okay, let the meeting minutes reflect that I did not receive any voicemail or emails On agenda item number 5a At the 5 p.m. Cutoff yesterday So we'll bring this back to Uh, the tack again I'm looking for a motion in a second before taking a vote This is jennifer berkin san rosa. I'll move uh approval of adding clover dale to the partnership Is there a second? City of roner park second Sorry craig All right, we have a motion from san rosa seconded by roner park Uh Easter can you go ahead and and this is to approve adding City of clover dale is a membership to the partnership easter. Can you do a roll call please? Yes, city of katari city of petaluma Yes, can't her other city of petaluma City of roner park Yes, my great possum city City of santa rosa Uh, jennifer berks and rosa water. Yes City of sinoma Ferguson city of sinoma. Yes Northman water district For a mac and sire northman water district. Yes town of winsor christina gulart town of winsor. Yes That'll leave the moon water district That pulner value the moon water districts. Yes That's agenda item 5a unanimously approved Okay, great And then paul did did you indicate that we had somebody from From this the city that wanted to make a comment. Yeah, I would like to introduce mark ring cone who's the city's public works director and and city engineer for the city of clover dale and He's here to say a few words on the city behalf So mark. I see you've joined Yes, thank you everyone for approving this motion We look forward to working collaboratively to our limited resources. Of course, you know clover dale is totally dependent on the russian river watershed and how it's well managed So we want to get in on that and also, you know help with going through this current drought I know it's it's pretty severe out there and we'll see a lot more reduced flows as as the Season progresses. So we're here to cooperate. We we already instituted a 25 percent cutback Voluntary we'll be moving advancing that to to mandatory here shortly as as we get more information but I'm looking forward to working collaboratively with with the group and And getting getting the word out getting the water savings products out there and and moving forward getting through this drought Thank you Thank you mark. It's great to have you on board Yeah, welcome. Welcome mark to the team. Thank you for looking forward to your participation as a partnership I did also note that uh, one of the participants today is eric jansen. Eric is a uh, senior um engineering tech for the city of clover dale And if i'm not mistaken mark eric will be The staff liaison for the tack water conservation subcommittee moving forward. So just want to welcome eric to the fray as well Thank you Okay, uh, we're now going to move on to agenda item number five b this information item just uh our typical production summary of Or water production Through the year to date So this is this is available shows the year to date Water usage is down eight percent compared to the baseline year 2013 And again it has the the monthly graphs showing that data And then in the second page it shows the gallons per day per capita trending since the mid 1990s And then this is something that we will with With clover dale joining then clover dale will be added to this Data moving forward as well as we continue to expand the partnership Any questions from the tack on this agenda item? Seeing none, I'll go ahead and open it up to the public Anybody from the public who would like to make a comment? Via zoom, please raise your hand or via phone hit star nine Gina do you see any comments? I do not see any raised hands Okay, thank you. Let the meeting minister reflect that I did not receive any voicemail or emails Uh yesterday afternoon, uh on this agenda item as well So we will move to agenda item number five b drought outreach messaging and term Tipper urgency change order term nine reporting Paul back to you sir so first Just want to mention that we've already completed three of the monthly reports that are required for term nine of the current temporary agency change order That was initiated back in January To date For the term of the order for those three months the partnerships showing Just under four million gallons of savings from Just the programmatic Measures that the partnership has implemented in the last three months. So I want to reiterate Some of the points jennifer was making just to and reinforce the understanding that All of the partners have very robust water conservation programs including cash for grass That are ongoing on a daily basis. We have participation that's very active in all of our programming And um, it's a testament to the partnership that on a monthly basis We are adding millions of gallons of savings Every month to our cumulative water reductions as we move forward in time And again just to make sure that it's clear Many of the programs that the partnership has in place Address behavior change. It's very difficult to estimate savings from those types of actions particularly to calculate savings based on The outreach that's currently underway and regarding the drought Most of what we're asking people to do are implementing behavior change for additional water savings and so The savings that i'm referring to for the monthly report to the state board Is really just for those items that are easily quantifiable such as Changing out turf to low water use landscapes changing out fixtures, whether it be toilets shower heads faucet aerators and the like And again, all of those are adding up to millions of gallons of savings on a monthly basis which Continue to aggregate over time as we go forward. So And then in terms of outreach the partnership As again, jennifer brought up is Trying to get the word out on a regional event that's scheduled for june 12th called the drought drop by We're spending literally hundreds of thousands of dollars on both outreach And on supplies to provide drought kits to the public free of charge which include water sense Certified shower heads faucet aerators self-closing hose nozzles Dye tablets for toilet leak detection tests A variety of tips cards and other programmatic Information for the public to participate in some of these incentive programs that are being offered all the time and then Just over the weekend. I'd noted in being online that In my website feed A couple of drought drop by ads popped up. So we know that the dollars we're spending Are reaching I usually don't see those Because I'm not online a ton but this weekend I was doing a little work and Was super happy to see a city of santa rosa branded drought drop by ad pop up in my website feed If you are a subscriber to the press democrat Whether print or online those ads are also running in the santa rosa press democrat and we're A very large print ad in the paper just the other day And we're expecting That of the 16 locations throughout three counties that we're going to get a big turnout and so There's a lot happening regionally to get the message out one of the key indicators that the Ad campaign is being effective and that our outreach is effective is just the sheer number of news articles the earned media that we're achieving locally both through marin Sonoma in mendicino county If you haven't had a chance to visit Sonoma waters Drought web page that's dedicated to information about the outreach There's a very complete list of all the earned media that's occurring in our region It's it's very encouraging to see that Our outreach message is is becoming very effective and that There's saturation locally That we are in a severe drought and that people need to take it seriously And take steps to continue to reduce water use over and above what would Be normal long-term water conservation saving so Partnership is doing a great deal To get this message out and to start getting reductions during the summer The drought is here save water Is the campaign that's currently uh being promoted So in addition to the current broadcast radio that's being done by the partnership for the drought drop by We are just continuing to push out the message Through all of our media buys About the campaign We're taking steps now to look at additional opportunities for further outreach events later in the summer Santa Rosa has offered up a couple of dates one in august and what in september that we're considering With the full partnerships support And a variety of other opportunities that are being pursued in terms of billboards banners lawn signs and the like so We are starting to see some of the numbers Swing in our favor And I only expect that continued additional savings will be achieved by our constituents as we move forward So that's all I have for that dream. Thank you. Happy to take questions Thanks paul. I do want to show this If you can see it As I was leisurely reading the paper the marina ij Get this back here as an ad that popped up Yesterday sunday newspaper It's good to see a nice quarter quarter panel Add on the local newspaper And again, uh, a sample of the messaging that paul is Summarize so any any any any additional questions and comments from the tack before bringing this up to public comment Colleen That was just a thumbs up appreciate all the work that's being done You definitely see it out and about in the media and I really appreciate that Okay, thanks Colleen anybody else from the tack Okay, uh, this is again the general. I remember five c. Drought outreach messaging We're going to open this up for public comment. If you wish to make a comment be a zoom, please raise your hand Or dial star nine On your phone Gina and the indication of any public Wanting to make a comment I am not seeing any raised hands from the public All right and let the meeting minutes reflect that I did not receive any voicemail or emails Um As well Pam will you I don't know. I see a pan a handout. Yeah Did you want to hear me? Yes? Okay, sorry. I just wanted to flash up my uh, I think I We can't you're muted Pam you're muted. We can't we can't hear all those fine words. You're saying The top of her letter says drought is here Safe water. So it's right at the very top. It's probably mirrored, right? So I'm not sure you can read Anyways, so it's uh, the message is definitely out there. People haven't heard it. They are living in a under a rock, so Yeah, just I think Pam we missed you in the beginning but um Just for clarification santa rosa sent out over 55,000 letters Uh to every one of our customers letting them know about the requirements in place and um, We'll be doing another mass mailing Uh Before too long. So we're getting the word out and every which way we can Hey Okay, great And drew I would just be remiss if I didn't give a shout out to all those that have been involved in supporting this outreach effort both staffs at all the partnership um, our caga staff from um, brad sherwood on down through barry and others on his staff My staff as well the concerted efforts of an outreach subcommittee that have been meeting weekly for the last couple of months To get this message out to the public and to coordinate all that's required to do this regional outreach event Which is quite an undertaking We're looking forward to all the partners arriving this week to pick up all their materials And I suspect that we'll be continuing throughout the summer doing great work. So kudos to all those involved Yeah, absolutely this this uh This is something that takes a lot of people's involvement to Get this messaging out. So thanks for recognizing all those additional folks Paul Okay, we've got to move on to agenda item number six now a biological opinion Uh status update. This is an information item and pan gene you're on again Hopefully everybody received along with the agenda the what's up on the screen right now, which is the update itself It's a few pages with some photographs in it. So I'm just going to start at the top and really try to just cover some of the changes that have happened So starting with the fish flow project, um, we continue to do a lot of work on that project. Um, I believe that the videos that were Pre-mute at the public policy facilitating committee meeting are on our website. So folks can Go there and get a little bit of an education about sort of what I call rush river 101 and then Information about the fish out in the system that we're concerned about Their life cycle, etc. So that work continues Moving down here to the dry creek habitat enhancement work We do have a contractor out On site this year to finish up two remaining projects in Part of phase three, which is the last phase of the first three phases of the project the first three miles And um, they they expect to be out there. Um, they're actually I think uh starting mobilized right now Um, based on they've been out doing bird surveys. Um They have of course found birds, but they're trying to avoid those Um, the the contractor who is Hanford, um has submitted their master schedule their weekly Meetings as far as construction management have begun and um They do have in-stream work that they need to do this year. So um, they have a deep watering plan That's that's been submitted to Sonoma water for our review Um This week. Yeah, so it is this week. They are starting to stage their equipment out on site and They'll start working the areas outside of the stream Which that work can't start till next week um And they're going to start that upland what they call upland work and access work Right now. So um trying to avoid the birds Which we've had issues with bird nesting birds not just there, but other places in the county where we're trying to work too. So Birds are doing okay this year apparently Um habitat monitoring and maintenance work. Um, we have environmental staff that has gone out last fall and summer and done a lot of work in terms of physical and biological Surveys um of the sites that have been constructed And we we spent a little bit of time talking about this at the last meeting. So i'm not really going to cover this I think the text here is is the same As it was the last time we met. So um, Just be aware that there is a lot of work associated with um Monitoring those new sites to make sure that they're functioning the way they are so that we can get credit under the biological opinion for For the work that we're doing out there Um, as far as the phase three sites go, um, this is the The area that we had issues with um sedimentation in the last few years specifically in 2019 when we had really high flows in the greek And they're still kind of working on a solution to to how to deal with that right now Um, but they do uh intend to do some work out there. It probably won't happen. Um until 2022 They're they're trying to decide that right now. So there is some I'll call it sort of repair work That needs to be done at that particular site and they're working on that right now As far as phase four through six, so these are essentially miles four through six goes Um inter flueve has completed the design and the big documents for phase four And uh, the core is currently reviewing some of the changes to right-of-way agreements that have been requested by property owners out there Um, and we there's uh some information in here about starting Construction and it says it may be delayed I think at this point we're pretty sure we're not getting out there this year to to construct this project That it's going to start next year they are however Accumulating some logs and large woody debris or large wood material for the project It's being Stocked up at warm springs dam in the corp yard up there The core is allowing us to store things Up there for the project. So that's happening As far as phase five goes Um ESA who's our our consultant doing the design for that project has completed the nine 99 design That project is scheduled to begin construction in 2023 And um, they're working on of course, it's sort of its ongoing right-of-way agreements with property owners um, and uh addressing final comments from the core of engineers on that 99 design that project um Sorry The card no Is addressing comments from the core of engineers on the 99 design this for phase Six, so we have inner flu working on page phase four ESA working on phase five and card no working on phase six Phase six six is not scheduled to go to construction until 2024 And as I said, sort of the right-of-way thing is an ongoing thing and they are looking on access and right-of-way for Phase six right now also And then lastly, um, and we talked about this last time we met There is a smaller project upstream of a phase three site that we're looking at Sort of to keep in our back pocket In case we don't get the full six miles with the other planned projects And um, there is a a relationship with the property owner up there. So we're trying to I don't work with that property owner to make sure that if we need some more work Some more mileage so to speak for these projects that we can get it through that through that project We talked about this last time Excuse me as far as fish monitoring goes, um, we did have a number of Downstream monitoring traps out this year Seven of them specifically And they're listed here where those locations are Um, because of the low flow this year due to drought Many of these traps are already not operating. Well, all of them are not operating anymore and um, but they did uh end up having to to pull the traps and stop the monitoring a little bit earlier than we normally do Um due to the dry weather and the tributary. It's disconnecting from either the river or dry creek So, um, the good news is however that um, they had very robust numbers of Chinook salmon smolts captured in both dry creek and at marital of the dam So, um They're they actually had the second highest numbers that they've seen since we've gotten the biological opinion in october of 2009. So So that was good There's a some speculation in here about about why that is but I'm not a fish person. So I'm not sure I understand anyways So, uh, next thing rush river estuary management We have had several closer closures and then self reaches this year already There was a possibility that there was going to be a closure over last weekend as far as I know it didn't happen I didn't see an email on it Um, but uh, we are at that time of year when closures can happen depending on conditions out in the ocean but with the lower flows in the river they're more likely to happen um until sort of mid-summer and then those closure opportunities Are not quite as quite as good But uh, wanted to let you know that we did submit The 2021 adaptive management plan for the estuary to the resource agencies for review We expect to finalize that this month And the monitoring that goes on down in the estuary In terms of pinniped monitoring water quality monitoring and they also do fish staining down there And other biological monitoring is all underway at this point The last item in the update here is the interim flow changes. Hopefully everybody is aware of where we're at right now We did file a petition in january. It was approved from february. So it applies only to minimum flow requirements in the upper russian river and Namely impacts to lake mendicino and That order is still in place it will be It will go away and the order if we receive one this week from the state water board will take its place The order the petition that we filed in may Does address both upper russian river flows as well as lower russian river flows So that we can address our our concerns with both lake mendicino and lake sonoma One of the things I want to point to also with regards to that petition that we filed though Is that we're not only asking For a change in minimum stream flow requirements, but we have committed in that petition that we filed and this was You guys are all very aware of this the water contractor are very aware of this we committed to a 20% reduction in diversions between july and october compared to last year We really felt like you know, it was necessary for us to do our part and that To not just request a change of minimum flow requirements to preserve storage but also To commit to a reduction in diversions to preserve storage So that is part of our petition and I would expect the state water board would include that in any order that's issued So, um, I think that's it for me Thank you, fam Any questions from the tac on bam's presentation on the biological or update on the biological opinion Pam I would like to just kind of give a shout out to the agency on um The fact that they're moving forward with getting to almost final design on some of these future projects So that recognizing that for the longest lead items is the right of way So at least you can get the design done and then just concentrate on the right of way Which as we can see here is just impacting This year's project where the design was ready, but Right of way is delayed it. So it's good to see some of these future projects a couple years out getting their design 99 plus stage Yeah, right of way for those projects is it's really challenging. There's a lot of property owners. We have to deal with and The right of way agreements are pretty Um, you know, they're very robust and some of the property owners are Not very comfortable with them. So and the getting the core of engineers to change What they require is pretty difficult. So it's been quite a challenge I bet Okay, we're gonna open this up for public comment. Again, this is agenda item number six biological opinion status updates If you're participating via zoom, please raise your hand Or dial star nine if you're on the phone We do have one public speaker at this time Brenda Edelman. I'm gonna go ahead and unmute you I just have one more brief comment. Um One of the things that happens at the lower river that I didn't mention During I don't know at what point of flow this will happen And it's something I want to find out but at any rate It's start to be a disconnect between the river and the tributaries Where the fish like to come and go During their life processes and this is a serious problem because I'd like my question really is What are Nim's concerns about this situation? I'm sure they're they're well aware of it. And yet I haven't heard Of any suggestions of how to address it So it would It would be a serious impact to their migration patterns If that happens and it's bound to happen with much lower flows. So I'm just putting that out there Thank you Okay, thanks Brandon Uh any other comments? Gina I'm not seeing any additional hands Okay Again, let the record reflect that I did not receive any voicemail or email comments by the deadline yesterday as well So we're gonna move on. Hopefully Pam has had a chance to take another sip of water I would drink it all For agenda item number seven another information item Potter Valley project update Yeah, so there's I'll just give you an update in terms of really nothing has changed in terms of the Relicensing of the project. We are still trying to trying to find money and working hard to do that Hopefully some state money might come through through Um the revised the the well, I don't know if it's being called the may revise anymore, but the revised to the state budget So that's that's really um the majority of the work that's going on right now so that we can continue the the FERC relicensing process But as far as operation of the pot rally project goes PG need did file a variance request with FERC that variance request essentially changes the diversion amount to the Russian River pretty significantly and They filed that it was approved and I don't remember the dates. I apologize. I don't have these dates in my head but it the variance was approved and they started implementing it but at the same time they also Requested that if anybody had comments or wanted to intervene in The process that that they file Either a comment letter or an intervention letter or whatever they chose I believe the due date for those was last Friday So, um, they kind of they approved the variance, but they approved it conditionally Based on the input that they expected to receive So, um, they I I saw quite a few filings were made through the listserv Process that they have I get notification of those of those comment letters or notices of intervention So there's a number of them have been filed. I'm not sure what NIMS is exact or FERC's exact processes, but um, I think they were hoping to have um Comments addressed by about towards the end of this month. Um for some reason the 24th sticks in my head. I'm not sure I have that correct um I think we heard last week that just because there's more Folks filing that they expected that they might not make that date. This is according to PG&E staff So at some point their variance may Be sort of reopened and changed up But I would expect, uh, I think everybody expects the variance to stay in place, but it may change What it looks like when it when they get to a final version of it But they are implementing it in the meantime They're also holding uh weekly meetings. I think it's weekly meetings with what they call a drought working group that group consists of resource agencies Potter Valley Irrigation District The Round Valley Indian Tribes We typically will participate in that also and So we have an idea of where they are. They provide status update on storage levels and what the flows are looking like and what conditions are like out in the field um, and then Also what they're monitoring is showing them. So Um, those those are already happening and those will I assume continue even if the variance gets the Actual variance gets changed up. I would expect those to continue into the summer That's all I have to Okay, thanks, fam Any questions from the tack on Pam's report I don't see any hands being raised and we'll go ahead and move to public comment If you'd like to make a comment on agenda item number seven Potter Valley project update Please raise your hand or dial star nine Gina do you see any indication of any public comments? I'm not seeing any raised hands Thanks, Gina let the meeting minutes reflect that I did not receive any advanced voice emails or emails on this agenda item as well So Pam now I can go get a glass of water. We're going to switch to Uh agenda item number eight regional water supply resiliency study update and it's going to be jay jasper Thanks, drew. Good morning everybody. Um, I'm going to give a quick update on our project Um that we've talked about before and you're familiar with and that's the regional Uh resiliency study water shortage resiliency study And if I can just I'm going to show about two or three slides here um If I can get permission to Share Do you have a jay? Uh There we go. Yeah, you should have it now. Thank you Okay, let me just put this up. Can people see that? Um, yes life. Okay. So just very quickly. Um As a point of reminder and a refresher, uh, the um the regional water shortage resiliency study is a project that is really intended to Collectively look at our combined assets and resources All the way uh in the north from essentially potter valley down to the south essentially to sausalito Uh, and uh in between that collectively we have Um, a lot of assets pipelines reservoirs booster stations there are groundwater basins reservoirs Mendocino and Sonoma, of course etc And what this study is intended to do is is really to remove all of the jurisdictional boundaries and then apply what I call stress tests, uh To the system and those stress tests just in general Are really climate-driven In particular drought, which we are facing now and also seismic Last year as you all know, we worked together and developed a work plan with our consultant jacob's engineering And we have um just a few months ago started really what we call him phase two, which is implementing the work plan um and essential to this Implementation is the development of a model And you can see kind of the conceptual layout there on the right, uh, which Really tries to incorporate the pertinent aspects of all the various collective assets So then we can then look at different, uh scenarios for water shortages And then of course work together Uh the tack and Sonoma water working together to identify projects Either sub regional or regional projects that will improve the overall resiliency for certain water supply shortages um the goals of course are to um increase our overall resiliency And there are also really some other important secondary goals Which are also very important one is just to get us all working and thinking together on a on a regular basis This is not intended to be a one and done analysis, but really kind of a process Once we develop this modeling tool that we uh, we, um revisit this Together and continue to update and Keep this process alive. So there's a really a value value there in terms of Um, really uh continuing coordination communication and partnership another benefit, uh, of course is that Going through this process not just having the tool and the analysis, but also just the process of working together Um We really hope that this will put us in a good position where we can put forward resiliency studies You know for funding federal or state or other Funding opportunities and so that's kind of the what we're doing and some of the goals I have one more slide. I'll just skip down to because what I want to update you all on is um Been working with drew and and jennifer Given the extreme drought conditions. We all are dealing with now um We really started looking at and thinking about Well, maybe what we need to do is kind of tweak our our flow chart and our schedule and move up the drought uh The drought scenarios that we need to look at and we'll set aside the other scenarios such as seismic work in seismic hazards For a bit down the road because what we have to deal with now Clearly is a drought focus and so that's what We've worked with jacob's on and we want to discuss here and present to you is that it's really kind of moving up into the process The the drought scenario of valuation and so what this slide shows is the modified or accelerated schedule to push forward the The drought resiliency aspects of the study and essentially the The important aspects are that the model that I mentioned Hopefully is intended to be complete by the end of june and that was per the Per the original schedule But what we are pushing forward is really The drought resiliency metrics. These are the objectives that we're going to really Use the model to assess impacts of drought and then success measures for different projects or resiliency measures And then also to then conduct simulations of potential model simulations that will compare Our response measures drought response measures Versus a no action or a baseline Scenario and so by hoping We hope that what we can do is by september Really have used the model working together developed Some drought scenario simulations and identified some project concepts i'll call them That we could put forward that Hopefully our modeling process will show will move the needle towards overall resiliency for these types of droughts Because we're very mindful of course. We don't know when this current drought will end. Hopefully it will be In the coming rainy season and winter season, but we don't know that and hopefully this will this work will put us in A good position to move forward In the unfortunate event if the drought continues into a third year But even if it even if we do have a rainy year, which we all want next year We all know it's just a matter of time before the next drought Comes forward and we're going to have to grapple with it. So we want to move it forward regardless Because this is something that's not going to go away for us and so That's really what I want to Present is that we are expediting the drought component of this project and moving forward in the summer months Jacobs our consultant Who all of the contractors have met with Wants to start meeting individually this month and into july To make sure that the model they've developed adequately characterizes their general sit everybody's general water systems and water resources and also to get the latest information on how each of us Is impacted by the drought and any kind of ideas and then also working together collectively a Sonoma water and attack working through July august and september uh with jacob's to then meet and talk about drought impacts making sure they're appropriately characterized and then looking at and exploring ideas project concepts to address the drought and so with that um That pretty much concludes what I have to report right now and I'm happy to answer any questions folks may have Okay, thanks jay, you know as as all of us know this is a A contract with jacob's been it's been underway for many years and We all have uh, you know helped fund the project and we recognize the importance of resiliency for multiple Items earthquakes and droughts and little did we know as this was developing that we'd be right in the middle of of A two-year drought and so it's it's really important that That this effort's being made right now to accelerate this focus on the drought aspect of the of jacob's work so that we can try to leverage what our Information will be available september-ish Uh as we go into a potential third dry year so with that I'll open it up to any questions comments from the tack Seeing none Uh, go ahead and move to public comments if you'd like to make a comment via zoom Please raise your hand or dial star nine on your phone Gina are you seeing any public comments I'm not seeing any raised hands for this item. Okay. Thank you, Gina And again let the meeting minutes reflect that I did not receive any advance Questions or comments on agenda item number eight via voicemail or email So again, that was an information item. We move now to we're wrapping this up here towards the end Items for the next agenda will pretty much be similar Slates that we've had on this meeting we You know july is is typically a tentative meeting, but it will be a firm meeting Um, so make sure that That you have on your on your calendars that we will have a meeting of july or be july 12th At that point in time we'll have an additional update on the temperature and see change order And uh ongoing slate of agenda items that we do we have right now Is there anything else from the tack before I open up the public any other special agenda items? Not seeing any true. Yes j. Um, I think we were gonna, um Have a presentation on a couple key capital projects going on up and Up near our diversion facilities this summer Just give a status update on the inflatable dam replaced in the russian river crossing a seismic resiliency project It'll be ongoing this summer Thanks, j I did get that noted failed to mention it Okay, let's move to public comment on agenda item nine items for the next agenda Please Raise your hand via zoom or dial star nine if you'd like to make a comment. I don't see any raised hands true Thank you, jena. So that'll bring us and again Let the record reflect that I did not receive any comments in advance via voicemail or email So that brings us to adjourning the meeting. I would like to adjourn and just acknowledge A shout out to sandy potter who I just got an email this morning that she's retiring From the town of winsor. So congratulations sandy and thanks for all your good work With the tack for these multiple years and we wish you the best And with that, uh, we'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting and I hope everybody has a great week Thanks again Yeah, she was too slow