 Good morning everybody recording secretary Palmer. Are we getting close to ready to go? We are good to go Nice Okay, good morning everybody. My name is Susie Murray. I am the acting zoning administrator today And I would like to call the meeting to order At the top of my agenda I'm going to read some information that may seem a little bit redundant to you, but hopefully it's going to be helpful to somebody out there Pursuant to government code section five four nine five three E and the recommendation of that The health officer of the county of Sonoma the zoning administrator meeting will be Participating in this meeting via zoom webinar Excuse me members of the public can participate virtually at www.zoom.us slash join or by toll free Telephone at eight seven seven eight five three five two five seven and the meeting ID is eight two eight seven four six two I'm sorry. I'm going to start that over the meeting ID is eight two eight seven four seven two seven nine one five Public accessing the meeting through zoom can provide comments during the public comment periods additional information relating to meeting participation is available at www.srcity dot or g slash zoning admin The meeting will also be live streamed at YouTube HTTPS colon Backslash backslash www.youtube.com Slash City of Santa Rosa Okay Item number one. I already did I called the meeting to order Second item on the agenda is public comment And I want to open by telling you that the first item the public hearing 5.1 For 1650 West Steel Lane will be continued to a date certain January 25th next Wednesday the meeting will be held at 5 p.m During this public comment period This is a time when any person may comment on matters that are not listed on this agenda But are within the purview of the zoning administrator the public may comment on agenda items when the item is Called each speaker is allowed three minutes. I have effectively just removed item 5.1 1650 for the public hearing for 1650 City West Steel Lane If you are here and would like to make a comment This is the time to do that. We will not be hearing any staff presentation or Applicant presentation, but we didn't want this to be a wasted trip for you either So if there's somebody that would like to comment on that item or any other Items that are not listed on our agenda, please raise your hand Kyle if you could go ahead and give The instructions if for people calling in that would be great too Of course if you wish to make a public comment via zoom, please raise your hand The raise your hand icon is located at the bottom of the zoom screen if you are dialing and via telephone Please dial star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute once called upon Looks like we do you have one hand raised by a caller Caller you are now allowed to speak please unmute yourself and when you start begin to speak I will start the timer Hi, this is Tamara Stanley general manager Snoopy's home ice The address is 1-667 West Steel Lane Santa Rosa and my comments are reflected on the 1650 West Steel Lane project Thank you for your efforts and getting much needed housing added to our Santa Rosa inventory as You may know Snoopy's home ice has been a gathering place for our community for over 50 years Not only do Santa Rosa residents frequent the campus regularly, but we receive thousands of visitors from around the nation and the world This ice arena was just named the best ice arena in all of the United States and Canada via Yelp With this we not only fill our large parking lot with guests But we rely on our nearby on-street parking on a daily basis And looking at this new development at 1 6 5 0 West Steel Lane directly across the street from the arena We have serious concerns around the parking we feel it's imperative that the project has ample on-site parking for their residents Thank you for taking this realistic concern seriously so that our organization can continue to thrive and support the Santa Rosa community and beyond Thank you for your comments The second caller on our list is going to be Colette Machaud Colette you're now allowed to speak. I will start your timer as soon as you start Hi, thank you for giving me this time My name is Colette Michaud and I am the CEO of the Children's Museum of Sonoma County Located at 1835 West Steel Lane and I want to echo some of Ms. Stanley's comments that there is serious concern around parking for the new development that is happening at 1650 Already West Steel Lane is very limited in terms of what is available for people coming to visit the Children's Museum As well as the ice arena and the Schultz Museum And there is concern that this that there will not be enough parking at this new development and that it will bleed over into onto Hardee's Lane So as Tamara said, we at the Children's Museum would appreciate serious consideration of this incredible creative corridor that is unique to Santa Rosa That I believe the city should Really appreciate what they have and understand that it has an incredible Following from both local as well as international Tourism and that we're very very fortunate to have these creative arts and culture resources in our community and we should not be Holding them back if possible I don't think it's going to help either the city to have A development that doesn't have enough parking. It's certainly not going to help People who are wishing to come as a destination To Santa Rosa to one of these three arts and culture resources. It's not going to help to not have any parking available so And also the traffic that is going to be created as a result is also of concern So again, thank you. And as as miss Stanley said, thank you for looking out for people who are in need of housing at an affordable rate. We do We all want to see that happen, but we also want to see acknowledgement made of the resources that are currently here and have been here for many many years And just understanding of the impact that this will have on them. Thank you Thank you The next color is Barbara Gallagher and Jean Schultz You are now unmuted whenever you start the timer will begin Again, the next commenter is Barbara Gallagher and Jean Schultz You are unmuted. Please unmute yourself and begin your comments the time where we'll begin when you start there Okay, I thought I thought that I'm Barbara Gallagher and I represent the owners of the property at 1495 Westdale Lane As well as the property on the corner of I.D. Lane and Westdale Lane And Jean Schultz is involved with the property as well as other properties of the park in Lane And we are very concerned about parking We believe that the extent of need for parking from the development that's proposed will spill over into the ice ring parking lot or parking on 1495 Westdale Lane And we have been concerned and were expressed by Ms. Schultz about the the visitors that we have in the area and the need to be parking as well as recognizing the need for affordable This is Jean Schultz jumping in On the weekend we have street parking going all the way down from the ice ring and the museum down to Lane Creek and there's no other place for our overflow to go and there's no place for overnight parking I think that probably concludes most of our comments Just one other thing The street on I think it may be Meadow, Bland or something that leads to those apartments behind this property That street is full of overnight parking that can't fit into parking in that area Thank you very much for your comments I'm going to ask, it was very difficult to hear you two I think we got the gist of it But I'm going to recommend that you write your comments and send an email to Connor McKay who's the planner for the project and make sure that your comments are captured I hear that there's nighttime parking the streets are full now but you did cut out a little bit I would recommend you write your comments This meeting is also being recorded You can go back and listen to your comments and see what I'm talking about afterwards Thank you for taking the time The last hand raised is Gina Hunt-Singer Gina, you may now speak Whenever you begin, the timer will start Thank you for having me My name is Gina Hunt-Singer I'm the director of the Charles M. Schultz Museum and Research Center I want to say first of all, thank you for your service and making sure there's housing in San Jose I know it's important to all of us I would also like to say it needs to be a realistic plan What we have seen is that we are going to It looks like the plan is not realistic for parking The way it is set up currently We have over 100,000 probably 200,000 people that come through this corridor just for the three properties that are here These are international visitors from all over the world We're also proud that Charles Schultz lived here and that the Children's Museum is such an excellent place for families in this area, such a resource I just want to say that I don't want to have our visitors that are understanding San Rosa for the first time or being here for the first time to leave with a bad taste of San Rosa in their mouth It's a critical place for the reputation of this beautiful place we call home I just want to encourage the group that's in charge to really do realistic about parking That is all I have to say, but thank you for the time Thank you That is the last hand raised Okay, I appreciate the comments very much I appreciate that we had the option to do that and I hope that you all will join in again The meeting is being rescheduled to a five o'clock meeting on Wednesday, July, January I'm skipping ahead there January 25th next week Thank you Moving on to item number two I've been requested to reorder the agenda and moving items 5.2 and 5.3 to the end of the agenda So with that, I'm going to move into item 5.4 which is a public meeting for San Rosa Community Farmers Market This project is exempt from CEQA It involves a conditional use permit for the property located at 1501 Farmers Lane City file number CUP22-2 The project planner is Christian Candelaria Christian, take it away Good morning, zoning administrator Marie I'm going to share my screen now Let's see Can you see this? Can you see this one? Sorry, okay Cool Okay Hello, everybody I'm going to present today for the Santa Rosa Community Farmers Market This is CUP22-030 at 1501 Farmers Lane This is a minor conditional use permit to extend dates for a temporary event at the Farmers Market held at 1501 Farmers Lane The dates are to be Wednesday from 9am to 1pm and every Wednesday from 9am to 1pm and every Saturday from 8.30am to 1pm This is currently an existing Farmers Market seeking official permitting and they currently have no court enforcement cases or issues with their plan development community The project description for this site The Farmers Market is going to be set up for an hour and a half before the market and vacate the property within an hour of closing and the Farmers Market on Wednesday occupies one row in the parking lot located at 1501 Farmers Lane and on Saturday the Farmers Market will occupy two and a half rows in the parking lot and the staff is responsible for removing all the garbage created by the Farmers Market patrons and there will be portable toilets for the vendors and the public to use This is a map of the area The zone is PD0104 This is for commercial uses and you can see the surrounding uses in the area The general plan is retail slash medium residential I'm now going to show you the two different plan sets The first one is for the Saturday layout for 8.30am to 1pm You can see the different rows they're taking up with all the vendors and the types of locations for trash cans Next is the Wednesday layout As you can see it is significantly smaller on this date Now I'll move into the required findings For this particular permit it is a temporary style of event but the code allows for if they're going to exceed the certain limitations for the temporary use they can apply for a conditional use permit so since they are looking to go longer than the allowed use which would be for similar activities to meet for up to 7 consecutive days or 6 to 2 day weekends within a 12 month period they're looking to expand upon that as I said previously since they will be operating twice a week every week planning staff also determined based on the type of use and it's an intensity that would qualify for a minor conditional use permit These are also the general required findings for the minor conditional use permit Now I'll go into some of the studies that were done on traffic in the area So there was a traffic study conducted by WTrans and these were some of the findings that they had for this site it will not contribute to peak travel hours but they are going to be conducting this during the morning and many of the businesses operate starting in the afternoon and that's when the farmers market will be closing they can use existing bicycle and pedestrian facilities and they are adequate for the use they will have less than significant impact on the vehicle miles traveled and will have less than and significant impact on the emergency response times The existing parking lot is also adequate for parking demands and I will go a little bit further into parking So currently they have a required parking standard for one space per 250 sq. ft and there is a required accessible parking standard for one space van per 1-25 parking spaces On Saturdays the entire site will be covering 126 parking spaces which is about 850 sq. ft and they will be using existing spaces that are at the property as it is able to fit as the study previously mentioned On Wednesdays they are covering 42 parking spaces and that will be 500 sq. ft They are required to do two parking spaces but those are already existing Total parking available on this site is actually 434 parking spaces and that includes 11 accessible parking spaces Next will be for the This project was reviewed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act Currently they are going for a Class 1 categorical exemption pursuant to Sequa Guidelines Section 15301 Existing facilities Operating on the existing parking area as a temporary use The project site is less than 10,000 sq. ft and will be using existing public services and facilities There is also a Class 4 categorical exemption pursuant to Sequa Guidelines Section 15304e minor alterations to land There is going to be a minor temporary use of land having negligible effects on the environment There have been no unresolved issues as a staff review and we have not received any public comments I also wanted to reiterate that there is no code enforcement case attached and there have been no issues with the plan development It is recommended by the Planning and Economic Development Department that the Zoning Administrator approve a minor conditional use permit to allow the Santa Rosa Community Farmers Market at 1501 Farmers Lane And then here is my information I also wanted to note that the applicant is going to be presenting now as well Thank you Kelly Smith, you may be allowed to speak Thank you So I'm Kelly Smith with Agricultural Community Events Farmers Markets and we operate the Farmers Market at Farmers Lane currently I sent a presentation to Christian and I think he's going to share screen Great, thank you And I wanted to thank everybody for taking the time to route the application and spend some time talking about farmers markets which I love, you know, I love Breathe and everything Farmers Market So as I said we're I'm the Executive Director of Agricultural Community Events Farmers Markets and we operate the Santa Rosa Community Farmers Market Farmers Lane We're a 501c5 federal nonprofit which is an agricultural nonprofit and our website is ILoveFarmersMarkets.org Next slide please And we have been in operation since 2010 Our mission is to support agriculture and agricultural related products through community farmers markets We currently operate eight Sonoma Farmers Markets Sonoma County Farmers Markets and two Marin County Farmers Markets Next slide please So a brief history on how did we end up at Farmers Lane So before I was born and it's rare that I get to say that because I'm getting older 1967 was the first Farmers Market in Sonoma County and it was located at the Santa Rosa Veterans Building and it was the only Farmers Market in Sonoma County at that time Fast forward you know 45 years or longer my math might be bad political split amongst the Farmers Market vendors and operators caused that market at the Veterans Building to split to become two markets half stayed at the Veterans Building in Santa Rosa and the other half went to the Luther Burbank Center at that time I was operating a market in Petaluma with both vendors going through the split so it was a very interesting time in Farmers Market in Sonoma County in 2014 we were asked to come in and operate the Farmers Market they had currently been operating through the vendors the vendors were operating the market and finding a struggle to continue that market so we came in and then rebuilt the market robust strong great market but then in 2017 and 2019 we started experiencing the wildfires here in Sonoma County that just rippled through the whole county and just sent everybody into a situation where we all had to deal with evacuations and amongst other things so the Veterans Building became an evacuation center at both of those years and so we could no longer operate at that location so we looked to Farmers Lane as a temporary location for the Farmers Market until we could go back to the Veterans Building but who would know that 2020 and then who would know that 2020 a huge pandemic COVID-19 shut down a lot of things almost everything we were fortunate enough to get a essential business title for Farmers Markets across California so we could continue to service the community and so we moved back to Farmers Lane and continued there until present when the Veterans Building did reopen we had already been at Farmers Lane for two years so we just had spent so much time getting people to know that we were still open and at that location it just didn't seem like a good opportunity to go back we felt like we really should stay at Farmers Lane and also the businesses that Farmers Lane really love having us there Hardest Thieves has often come out to let us know that her business is booming and we've worked with the other existing businesses to make sure their parking is available to them and just on Wednesdays it's a great location for the existing businesses like the dental office and AAA to come out and support the market next slide please so who are we at the Farmers Market? we have during peak season which is summertime we can have up to 60 vendors 25 of those vendors are agricultural producers including fruits, vegetables, meat, dairy and eggs as I discussed earlier the Jason businesses are very enthusiastic about us being there we also serve 100-150 CalFresh customers weekly who have food stamp cards and then in addition to the money that they use from their food stamp cards or EVT CalFresh they receive Market Match which is an incentive to help small scale farmers and also low income consumers where they get a dollar for dollar match up to $20 for fresh fruits and vegetables we also have other incentives for seniors and other low income consumers so we're there to support those individuals as well as the small businesses and farmers who exist in our Farmers Market next slide please so here excuse me pardon me so when we were working on this project to for the application Google Earth has a picture of the Farmers Market on a Saturday so it's a great opportunity to see the footprint that we're utilizing on a Saturday and also the ample amount of parking that is available I think Starbucks is the one that we do but it's great to have them there as well I love the location it's very rare bus coming from the veterans building to this location it's nice to have other things happening alongside of us so we feel that the Farmers Market is a great attribute to Santa Rosa Santa Rosa has a rich history and agriculture and we also contribute to reducing a carbon footprint we support local farms and businesses and we also offer a gathering place for the community when we create jobs with food security and we enhance tourism and just make the community all together a well-rounded place to live and then in addition to that we also work with other organizations to help with emergency food and preparing for emergencies and also helping with not having disruption in our food chain supply as we've seen with COVID and other things that have happened in recent so that is the end of my presentation again I appreciate everybody's time and if you have questions I'm here to answer them so I'd like to open this up now to members of the public if anybody has any questions or comments about this project if you wish to make a public comment via Zoom please raise your hand the raise your hand icon is located at the bottom of the Zoom screen if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute once called upon zoning administrator Marie it appears there's no raised hand at this time okay great well I actually do have a question and that is do you will you be providing prepared food hot or cold at the farmers market yes we do okay great so the first thing I want to say is I feel like I've been an ostrich with my head in the sand because I wasn't aware that the farmers market was there I think that this is an absolutely wonderful place for a farmers market and so thank you very much for that and I'll see you on Saturday morning and the I do have a condition that I would like to add just one small condition and that is that you add trash receptacles for compost recycle and landfill and include instructions for each container in both English and Spanish and that can be as simple as a laminated piece of paper outside of the receptacle and that way people who are using those receptacles know what can be where things should go if that's acceptable to the applicant Kelly yes that's acceptable that's definitely an alignment with our mission my guess is it's probably already being done but just in case well working with recall that she is not always smooth sailing let's just go with that but we are definitely on par and would like to see more green waste than landfill waste and more recycling so it is definitely a real house so thanks for the effort I appreciate you throwing out the extra the extra instructions there and with that I think this was a wonderful project and I am prepared to sign the resolution thank you planner Candelaria thank you I'll make sure it's updated with the new condition thank you and like all actions that are taken by the zoning administrator today there is a 10 day 10 calendar day appeal period in this case I think it falls on Monday the 30th Monday the 30th the 30th is the day and we are not open so if anybody would like to appeal this decision you can do so by either contacting the project planner Mr. Candelaria or our planning counter at City Hall and file the application there now I also want to say that in my case to reorder the agenda I completely skipped over one portion and I think it's important for y'all to hear it but I think it's important for y'all to hear it and with me a sec I'm going to back up now from 2.3 or 5.3 to 3.1 and that's the statement of purpose for the zoning administrator so the first thing I want to point out is again my name is Susie Murray and you can call me zoning administrator Murray and I'm going to be appointed by the planning and economic development director and has the responsibility and authority to connect public meetings and hearings and to take action on minor and reduced review authority discretionary applications the decision by the zoning administrator may be appealed to the design review board cultural heritage board planning commission or the city council as applicable to the decision within 10 calendar days of the action and I think it's important for y'all to be aware of the recommendations for decisions made or actions taken today just to repeat what I just said must be received no later than Monday January 30th so now that I've got us back on track the next item is we'll move to 5.5 this is a public meeting for El Milagro food truck this is another project that is exempt from additional use permit and the truck would be located at 1212 Petaloma Hill Road city file number 22-059 Suzanne Hartman is the planner assigned to the project Suzanne you're up great good morning zoning administrator Murray I'm about to share my screen in a second here can you see my screen yes I can alright so I am the project planner for the minor conditional use permit application file number 22-059 located at 1212 Petaloma Hill Road so the proposed mobile food vendor will be located on again at 1212 Petaloma Hill Road and it's also according a lot so it also connects with Fraser Avenue to the north of the site there are retail and business services and some medium residential uses to the east there's also a bunch of retail and business services to the west it's predominantly medium and low residential parcels and to the south again it's retail and business services with also kind of a variety of medium and low residential oops sorry so the project description I'll just kind of go through this list here is that there is a proposal for one new mobile food vending truck with two employees the hours are proposed to be from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Saturday they propose two tables with 12 chairs kind of dispersed essentially in front of the mobile food truck and the on-site principle use is Mondragon's tires and none of the parking spaces that are currently at that site will be affected by this food truck vendor it will be placed at kind of the southeast side of the existing property and the bathroom for employees and customers is going to be provided with the principle use so the proposed sorry the existing land use is general commercial there is an existing building used for the principle use which is again is Mondragon's tires and you can see on the site plan here where the mobile food truck is proposed to be located right up against here are some images of the project site and these photos a couple of them are a little dated now there is where that bottom left corner photo is there is paved area now so the food truck will be on a paved space no public comments have been received for this project and these are the standards for local food vendors and I'll just kind of go off of also the condition or the findings that were made for this food truck the proposed use is allowed within the general commercial zoning district and complies with all other applicable provisions of the zoning code and the city code and that the mobile food vending use is allowed at the project site by approval of the proposed use at the project site and the proposed use is 16.130 and also 20-46 the proposed use is consistent with the general plan and a specific plan and that the project site is on for retail and business services and the general plan use designation encourages retail and service land use is into vicinity and that the design is not distracting to passing motorists and the size of the proposed use is not anticipated to inhibit the current principal use. The site is physically suited for the type density and intensity of the proposed use, including access, utilities, and the absence of physical constraints in that the proposed mobile food vendor shall be conducted entirely upon private property and shall not interfere with the principal operation and shall not inhibit traffic circulation. And finally, granting the permit would not constitute a nuisance or be injurious or detrimental to the public interest, health, safety, convenience, or welfare, or materially injurious to persons property or improvements into vicinity and zoning district in which the property is located in the project and that the project is permitted is a permitted use with a minor conditional use permit for this location and has been reviewed and conditioned by all applicable City of Santa Rosa departments. The proposed project has been reviewed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act and qualifies for a class four exemption under the CEQA Guidelines section 15304 section 15304 in that the mobile food truck is a minor temporary use of land having negligible sorry got tongue twisted there negligible or no permanent effects on the environment. Skip to slide there. The Planning and Economic Development Department recommends that the Zoning Administrator approve the minor conditional use permit to allow for the operation of a mobile food vendor located at 1212 Petaluma Hill Road. And this is my contact information if you have any questions both my email and phone number are on the screen. And we do have the at least representatives of the applicant present they do not have a formal presentation but they are available for any questions. Thank you. Thank you very much and I will say that I have visited the site and I've seen the pad and I think it makes it's a it's an excellent place for a mobile vending truck. I also was as I usually am I'm always concerned a little bit about parking but it seems to me that there is completely adequate parking around there there's street parking on both street frontages for that parcel and quite a bit of street parking on Petaluma Hill Road that is is often underutilized. I'm thrilled to see that the condition of approval and for the trash receptacles also includes the instruction of what goes in each receptacle in Spanish and English and I don't I have no other questions and I think it's a fantastic project so I have every intention of signing that resolution as soon as I get it. Thank you very much for a great presentation congratulations to the applicant look forward to eating there. Thank you. Okay and don't go away Suzanne the next me uh item 5.6 is another public meeting this is for a minor landmark alteration permit again the project has been deemed exempt from CEQA and. Do you want to share your means? I believe we have to open for comments for the last item. Oh my goodness thank you so much um let's back that up I also have I completely skipped over something else as well um so backing up to 5.5 um I'm going to retract my comments about approving it I'm going to open this project up for public comments if there are any and if you wish to make a public comment via zoom please raise your hand the raise your hand icon is located at the bottom of the zoom screen if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand and star six unmute once called upon zoning administrator Marie it appears there's no hand sprays at this time. Phew um so let me repeat then I am going to approve this project as conditioned again this project is well my decision is um up for appeal you have 10 calendar days if you don't agree with me to submit an application for appeal that should be done by Monday January 30th you can submit that application um with help from planner Hartman or you can come into planning and economic development and submit it in person. Um zoning administrator Marie please close for comments and I'm closing public comments oh yoyoy it's so technical all ready all right now 5.6 I promise I'll get this one right 5.6 is another public meeting that's a minor landmark alteration permit and has been determined to be exempt from CEQA if the project site is located at 1209 12th street Santa Rosa and the city file number is LMA 22-017 once again Suzanne Hartman is the planner and I'll let you take it from here hello again all right I'm going to share my screen can you see my screen great all right so I am presenting another project it is for a minor landmark alteration permit for a roof replacement and overhang extension located at 1209 12th street so the minor landmark alteration permit is to replace the existing shingle roof with a new shingle roof and to extend the roof overhang by 16 inches the current zoning district is plan development which is also part of the mcdonald historic district um it's uh apn number is 180-810-012 I hope I said that right I got those numbers in the same order um and the general plan to use designation is medium residential so this is the parcel partial site plan and as you can see this is the main residence um and this is the uh proposed extension of the overhang and these are the elevations and I believe the yes so the shingle roof that is proposed is also going to be a very simpler color as to what's existing there were no public comments received for this project and this is the list of required findings which could be made the proposed project complies with all applicable development standards of both the zoning code policy statement for the plan development historic zoning district PD 0226-H the proposed project ensures that alterations to historic buildings and their surrounding settings are compatible with the medium residential general plan land use designation and the goals of the mcdonald preservation district the proposed roof replacement and eave extension will continue design elements and with the minimal traditional style of the residents the proposed exterior changes implement the mcdonald preservation district standards for architecture by proposing a roof material and color that is similar to what is existing and that the eave overhang is proposed to be extended only by 16 inches the proposed shingle roof design a material is similar to or my apologies just re-read that um the project would enhance the historic structure and replace the damaged roof and the proposed exterior changes are consistent with the applicable secretary of the interior standards for the treatment of historic properties with guidelines for preserving rehabilitating restoring and reconstructing historic buildings and that the roof replacement and even extension will not be readily visible from the public right of way and has no impact on the streetscape of the neighborhood the project has been found to be in compliance with the california environmental quality acts and qualifies for a class one exemption under sequel guidelines section 15301 subsection e and that the new proposed roof and eave overhang are minor alterations of an existing private structure it is recommended by the planning and economic development department that the zoning administrator by resolution approve a minor landmark alteration permit to allow for the roof replacement and overhang extension located at 1209 12th street and this is my contact information and i believe we do have a representative of the applicant available for questions if needed thank you and they won't be making a presentation and there is no formal presentation okay i'm gonna go ahead before i forget and open the public comment period are there any hands raised if you wish to make a public comment via zoom please raise your hand raise your hand icon is located at the bottom of the zoom screen if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star nine raise your hand two raise your hand and star six to unmute once called upon zoning administrator marie appears there's no hands raised at this time well then i'm going to go ahead and close public comment period and say that i did visit the site i reviewed the findings and i want to say thank you to the applicant because i know this sound seemed like a pretty big hoop to jump through to get your roof repaired and um and extend your you know extend the the roof eave thank you i appreciate you going through the process um i have no conditions to add i will be approving this project and as with every other decision i make there is a 10 day 10 calendar day appeal period um which would expire on monday january 30th if there is anybody out there that does not agree with this decision you may file an appeal uh by contacting planter hartman or going ahead and coming into planning and economic development and filing an appeal application in person and now we can jump back to the beginning of our agenda and go to item 5.2 and i want to thank the uh both staff and applicant teams for um for your patients here um item 5.2 is another public meeting this is a reduced review authority item the project is the pretend this is the 64 000 question is that the britain townhomes or the britain townhomes it's a minor design review um and it has been found in compliance with the uh yeah it's it's within the scope of a previously approved environmental impact report it's design review and the project site is located at 851 britain lane and the city file number is dr 22-010 the planner is christiney tummians christiney hand it off to you thank you miss murray christiney tummians project planner for 851 britain lane and the project is for an 82 unit all-electric two-story town home style condominium project and the project site is approximately 5.92 acres and it's located at the northwest corner of britain and sabbaspal road as you can see the rear of the site um uh you you can see the geridota trail um the south uh is a north point corporate center which is a large employment one of the large employment centers of the city we have residential developments the east and directly west is a religious facilities use and the property is developed with a single family home and some outbuildings but um predominantly um mostly vacant besides the single family home and the outbuildings the project site is located within the sabbaspal road corridor priority development area also known as a pda and the general plan land use designation is medium density residential which allows for a density range between 8 and 18 units per acre the proposed development would achieve a density of 13.8 dwelling units per acre which complies and it does achieve the midpoint density which is um something that we shoot for usually and um it is zoned r318 which um is our multifamily zoning district and um this project fits the the the uses that are anticipated in that zoning district and um so uh on the upper right you can see the proposed site plan and um elevations of the typical um building unit what it would look like and um sorry let me move this out of the way so it is part as I mentioned it is part of the sabbaspal road corridor plan development or priority development area and because of that it benefits from reduced review authority in our code what that means that instead of major design review and a use permit this project can go forward with um minor design review as long as there is a neighborhood meeting and concept design review um conducted by the design review board this project did have a neighborhood meeting and um was seen by the designer review board um another um thing that I forgot to mention is this is an SB 330 project what that means is the applicant is locking in development um rights and um fees and uh codes and they're vesting those at the time of submittal and so with that the applicant submitted a vesting tentative map along with the minor design review and our code um requires that minor design review go before the map which is kind of an unusual um sequence normally the the um uh planning commission reviews the map first then it goes to designer view but in this case because the vesting of the designer view has to occur before the map so on march 9th 2022 staff held a virtual neighborhood meeting participants offered support for their proposed use they commented positively about the proposed density and uh the concerns um focused around potential traffic issues on sabbaspal road of britain lane the main major concern is britain lane um i think the original project was going to use britain lane as the main um access point which concerned the residents the applicant uh now is using sabbaspal road with a write-in write-out entry point that will um appease the neighbors um and provide a better access for the site they also appreciated the on street parking that would be created on britain lane it's sort of a semi-rural road at the moment there's no curved sidewalk or gutter and they described the current challenges of exiting britain lane at sabbaspal road and feel that these challenges would be exacerbated by the new development um the participants supported primary access taken from sabbaspal road and they preferred that access from britain lane be as limited as possible they valued the quiet neighborhood with um undevelopment land and trees located on the property they appreciated that the units will face britain lane so they have a public face they have public facing porches um that will face britain lane and the garages will not generally be visible from britain lane one participant encouraged the applicant to retain um existing trees on britain lane there's some um mature uh oak trees along britain lane um the current project design preserves as many mature trees along britain lane as possible by using bulb outs to prevent damaging um the existing tree roots on march 17th uh of this year of 2022 the designer reboard reviewed the concept plans for the proposed project the board members generally appreciated the traditional design several board members suggested that the developer add some amenities to the north end of the project site rather than having them all towards the front and the applicant did um include a new amenity space towards the um i guess northwest of the project site um the staff is recommending that the zoning minister adopt an addendum to the certified rosin area sabbaspal road specific plan and approve minor designer view for the britain townhomes project the applicant also has a presentation that she would like to share her name is samantha hauser with city ventures great i think we can go ahead and there she is go ahead samantha oh sorry let me put let me load i thought i had it loaded but yeah here it is zoning administrator marie nice to see you or susie thank you um so christine i don't see the um the presentation i'll start when i see it yes here we go fantastic all right well um my name is samantha hauser i'm from city ventures and i'm really excited to be here this morning to talk about um our britain lane project or britain lane even the the residents have given me both um both takes on it so um that'll be the stumper um if you move to the next slide i'll give you a little bit of information about who we are at city ventures um so we are an infill developer this project is a really exciting site um it's close to food uses um you know places to work out a huge employment center health care um but i'm really what i'm really excited about is how close it is to the joe redota trail um and building a new sidewalk that gets people there from sabastopol we are also a sustainable developer um our projects are solar electric um there's no gas to any of our projects they have uh low impact landscaping and low flow water fixtures all of our garages have ev charging and solar battery backup um we designed creatively to use less lumber and i i could go on but i think it's important to highlight some of these things because in the context of california's current climate we want to leave behind a project that we can all feel good about um if you go to the next slide these are just a couple of examples of infill projects that we've done in other cities um you can see that they're different um architectural styles and intensities i'll go go back a little bit please christine can i'm not sure well i'll i'll just go ahead and skip ahead what i was going to say was um you know we're really excited this is our eighth project in santa rosa from um round barn to um fox hollow um courtney estates all of these projects i think um susie that you're very familiar with um we've always really appreciated all of the really thoughtful um feedback and direction that the city has given us to bring these projects to fruition um and christine i may ask you to skip around a little here if you go to the next slide i'm hoping it's the elevations so these are the these are the infill projects that we've done in other cities um and then keep going through i'd like to get to the streetscapes one more there we go so um if you look at our streetscapes on britain lane um and sabastopol road um you know we were really excited about this site and when we started we kind of dug into the land use and we looked at what was allowed here you know three stories or two stories um trying to get that general plan midpoint density range which allows for over a hundred homes um but when you look across the street at what's across britain you get a lot of one-story homes some two-story they're very traditional in architecture they've got large setbacks and a lot of landscaping and so what we thought we would do here is let's keep the two stories we decided that we would go with really natural hues and a lot of articulation and try to have a really organic feel to the project where the landscaping was kind of the predominant thing that you would see here and the buildings were here to kind of complement and make cohesive with the rest of the neighborhood um christine i'm sorry i'm going to ask you to go back to that first site plan slide i think we got a little mixed up here one more back perfect okay so um when we went um to design review board back in march of last year this was the site plan that we had shown them and we were just kind of hot off of a lot of big things happening um that march we went for a pre-app development review with all the staff departments we had our community meeting and we also had um our design review board meeting all within a very short window um what we had heard in the development review meeting was that um you know we wanted to look at taking access off of britain lane we were going to need to do a minor street here and that um meant widening the street in a way where you got sidewalks and a 20-foot roadway but it did take some of those existing right-of-way um street at trees that miss tummions referred to before um we also heard that the people who lived here really wanted us to have a primary access along sabastopol road too and this is where it was so wonderful to work with staff because i'll show you on the next slide kind of what we did but before we leave um you know we had these large amenity spaces that were kind of central to the southern part of the project and drb um they really liked the architectural style that we had picked but they wanted us to reorganize the site plan a little bit to spread that out um so if you go to the next slide christinei um this is kind of where you know you can see how we addressed some of these things we worked really closely with traffic and with our sequa and traffic consultants to study and prove out that we could have a write-in write-out on sabastopol road um through the passion of kailani and jedediah for us who are neighbors across the street um we were our attention was called to how do we come up with some creative solution to save these really great valley oaks that are in the right-of-way along pertain and so through a lot of push from like planning fire traffic you know rob sprinkle and gabe everybody worked together to create these really um intricate bull bouts where we could keep these existing trees in place and design around them still have the minor street and still have a lot of that parallel parking along pertain we also added two amenity spaces the one all the way to the north which is a seating area with a fire table and then we added this central amenity space which i think is so cool because now as you drive in from sabastopol road the first thing you see is landscape and tree and amenity spaces the homes themselves are three and four bedrooms they're targeted towards first-time home buyers and young families but two of the four home types do have a bedroom on the ground floor so if there's multi-generational housing or if you're intending to age in place you do have that optionality which i think is really flexible um you know other uh other items here we have um inclusionary housing proposed on the site which i think is really exciting um so there would be eight new affordable homes that are interspersed along the other homes on this project um if you if you move ahead christine to the slide that has the materials on it um we wanted to um yeah one back or two back one more perfect okay so um you know we looked at a lot of things like shingle siding at um true gable ends we have complete roofs here and so having kind of ornate trim the design review board really liked the substantial um porch columns that we were proposing they didn't want anything spindly i think that was the word that they said to please avoid and then um if you move on to the next slide this is some of our landscaping um you know again we wanted to avoid these kind of really um colorful you know children's climbers and do things like climbing boulders and things that felt more cohesive with the rest of the site or you know climbers that looked like logs um and you know things that really fit in well we have plants that are proposed that attract butterflies and bees and we're proposing over a hundred trees on the site currently so um with that the last slide is just a thank you um we really so enjoy working with city staff with the planning commission and the community here has been so helpful i mean not only did they come to the community meeting but they also called me for months afterwards with suggestions of hey can you put this type of fence along our property line together um you know can we extend water down pertain so that all of these people who are on well systems have access to you know city water um it's just such a pleasure i'm here to answer any and all of your questions and thank you so much for the opportunity great and i'm going to open it up now for some public comment and see if anybody out there has something to say if you wish to make a public comment via zoom please raise your hand the raise your hand icon is located at the bottom of the zoom screen you're dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand and star six to a mute one's called upon we have one hand raised michael please begin by stating your name for the record uh michael spielman you may begin sir yes um i'm the owner actually co-owner with my sister of the property to the north um 6 11 pertain lane and um uh overall i'm i'm happy with the project um i still have concerns about the um um the the the number of residents that are the number of cars that are going to be coming on to sabastopol road and kind of confusing the general area um my wish would have been but i guess it wasn't possible to have a a uh light uh stop light installed at um pertain lane where it um meets um sabastopol road um i i think that the solution that they that everyone's come up with this is um the best after that um i'm i just we have um my property i have four houses with total of about um 11 uh women and children live there in the separate houses um and and just their their access on to sabastopol road um is difficult at times now so um i i am concerned with that many more people but i still uh agree with the uh or i'm in favor of this development and support it so and i feel like um you guys have been the developers have been uh good to work with so i'm looking forward to to it going forward i just i mean was it ever that's my question was it ever considered to put a stop light on uh on pertain are you done michael it sounds like you're done and you went on mute so thank you very much for your comments um i did have that one did you hear that one question i i was it ever considered whether a stop light could have been put on uh pertain lane and kept the access there because that was something that i had asked it at the beginning i did hear i heard your question and typically what we do is wait and see and you know hear all the comments and questions and address them all at the same time it looks like maybe the only member of the public that's going to comment but let's wait and see if any hands go and then we'll address them all is there any administrative marine it appears no hands are raised at this time okay i would also like to ask that chair weigel from our design review board um come on uh yeah raise his hand and give me some feedback from the design review board in terms of uh comments and how they've been addressed thanks susie good to see you in a non-design review board scenario um so uh yeah um so i i think uh the the introduction of kind of the the park let in the middle uh along their excuse me along the main entry path that is a really nice design feature that was uh that came out of the comments um and i think what that ends up doing effectively is it kind of breaks up the traffic flow uh and splits kind of how development will kind of ingress and egress uh and so um you know effectively kind of the kind of the front part of the project will likely access britain or britain lane and sabaspa road and kind of the back half will will egress out on britain lane britain lane so i think that's a really nice feature um it also kind of will be a traffic calming component so uh you know so the sidewalks and stuff become more walkable so that's really nice uh the introduction of another kind of mini park towards the back of the project is really nice considering how much how many units there are how many housing units there are on the project so i think that's really nice um beyond that uh i think really the only other comments were related to kind of the architecture um me personally the architecture is a little bland um but then again that's my own personal sensibilities i think in a very broad sense they did a nice job creating garden style apartments uh within kind of a local farmhouse wine country vernacular if you will um which we see a lot of so that was great that's great good to see um and then beyond that i don't think there are any other um comments that i have uh in between what was originally reviewed and what is currently proposed i think the uh the main points would be the the rearrangement of the site plan uh is a significant um increase to the to the to the project um and makes it uh and and it provides some interesting value that i don't think was there previously okay thank you very much it's helpful very helpful um so i don't think i closed the public comment period again so do you ministrate or mary i believe we have one more public comment if you're willing to accept well i'm willing to accept it since i never closed it so let's go for it caller 3984 please begin by stating your name for the record good morning almost afternoon this is kailani forest and thank you so much for allowing me to make a few comments i truly appreciate it first i'd like to thank both christine for your very accurate uh explanation of the previous meetings and uh samantha thank you so much for your careful consideration with all the things that we talked about that means a tremendous amount to this community with that said recognizing that change happens and that despite the fact that this area has been predominantly rural for years and years clearly that is changing so um again i just want to reiterate and i know that you folks are hearing us uh despite many of us being on board for the project we understand the big picture of all the things that come with that there's still a tremendous amount of sadness in regard to no longer being out on britain lane our main road and seeing a beautiful field with flowers and a beautiful property that's you know kept really well so you know there still is a sadness that building is happening and not seeing sunsets or whatever but again we recognize that change happens so um uh samantha thank you for acknowledging working so diligently to keep the trees on britain lane that means a tremendous amount to myself and my neighbors that i've spoken to um and that's kind of going back to the rural aspect of this area it is a home to significant wildlife um we have hawks that live here along with significantly other wild birds we've got butterflies we've got bees we've got all of that and as you can appreciate with trees getting cut down that does make it significantly harder to keep some of the things that makes this area glorious that your new tenants would appreciate as well so i did hear that you do have two amenity parks and i will address that in a minute and of course i got very excited um but with that said i'm still just really curious and concerned about the rest of the redwood trees on the property and wasn't there a way that they could be preserved um so uh basically uh they're stunningly beautiful they're very tall they're well developed um i haven't been close to them but my understanding is that they're redwood trees and they're glorious and certainly birds and um animals insects and what not all utilize those trees so please just keep all of that in consideration as you move forward and then my final uh question comment oh and um pardon me to back up on that property as well there's um it's been 10 plus years of black bush uh blackberry bushes that will need to be removed i'm assuming and there have been family of quails living there since we moved here 12 years ago so um you know i feel very strongly about thank you kailani your three minutes are up and and i absolutely get the gist of the the wildlife and um yeah i understand sending in ministry and murray it appears there's no more hands raised at this time okay so now i'm closing the public comment period and i uh christine can i ask can you address that or do you can you talk about the stop light yes so there was um as part of the addendum to the um subaspal road road er there was a traffic study conducted um a traffic signal was not warranted based on the traffic study and there from my experience it's rare to put a traffic light so close to an existing traffic light that currently exists on corporate center parkway um so based on the traffic produced by this project a signal wasn't warranted on pertain lane got it and i think having the right in right out of subaspal is going to help you know mitigate those impacts for sure so um and so i i want to say thank you to both christine and smantha for uh great presentations um i have to i agree with chair weigel about the parklets um all of his comments really um uh in terms of the site plan and i want to complement the play equipment i love the play equipment that's shown on the plan so i want to say that um i have a question my a couple questions and that is um along pertain we were talking about providing an access path samantha from the um subaspal road up to the joridota trail i was out there yesterday and and visited the site and i i can't remember what's at the end of the road do do will that get access all the way down there or is there at the property at the end is it expand past you get to just my question people can get to the joridota trail without crossing over somebody else's property that's so so exactly so um there actually is an opening in the fence to the trailhead there and you can get to the trail um so it's you know you don't have to like cross highway there's like no weird stuff where you'd have to go on to somebody else's property it's accessible from pertain okay and that's but that's not part of your property down there right no no mr spielman who was one of the speakers there his property is to the north of ours and he has four homes on that property that are between us and the terminus of pertain got it and then you also mentioned that you were working with neighbors about fences i'm assuming on the north and west property lines yes so um miss so mr spielman is the one who reached out specifically and he requested a six foot fence with a two foot lattice that is what made it onto the plans um planning unit and um so i think that was uh we were able to fulfill that one really quickly the church is to our west and there is a six foot good neighbor fence there and that is sufficient um for them okay um on the the two feet of lattice one of one of my my dumb pet peeves you know rather than usually using the diagonal lattice would you consider using the um the 90 degree lattice you know the more square shape i think that would look much better with the architecture i think so too um that would be great um and so that that answers those questions now um i did review i reviewed the resolution and there's a few um i'd like to make some changes and i'm sorry this is going to take a couple of minutes here and starting what in the whereas is i would love to get a whereas into the resolution that kind of connects that the zoning administrator pursuant to a zoning code 2016 zoning code chapter 2016 that the zoning administrator is um allowed to uh act on this um i think actually it is there yes you know what that that is there i'm sorry i'm looking at a old note thank you my bad now we'll get down into conditions of approval and that one i was going to i i am going to go through and kind of add a few a few things that um i think really need to be listed out here um the first thing i i'd like to do and smith i'll go through all of them and if there's any that you don't agree with we can talk about them afterwards okay sounds great great thanks um the construction hours um as written limits from 8 a.m to 7 p.m monday through friday and 9 to 6 on saturday i'd like to change it from 8 to 5 monday through friday so we also are considerate of existing residential uses dinner hours and then i'd like to bolster that condition with um no construction activities on sunday or holidays and that exceptions may be made for large concrete cores or other construction activities that must begin earlier in the day in the event that those exceptions are necessary the developer shall provide a 10 day notice to all property owners and occupants within 600 feet and then moving down to tree preservation um uh on um a uh just adding in grading plans in addition to improvement plans and building plans and i've got this all written down so i'm happy to share share it with you so christin a don't feel like you need to take a lot of notes here um feel free to at the same time but um on b prior to issuance of grading your building permits for any clearing excavation construction or other work on site of protection zone shall be established to protect natural vegetation and trees from construction activities on both the construction site and neighboring properties i added that that little bit in and then the following conditions of restrictions shall and i modified it be printed verbatim on all plan sets submitted for improvement plans grading permits and building permits and then i i i left most of those conditions the same the tree preservation conditions and i i have a down in the uh at five h and i um those conditions kind of seem to conflict with each other and so i i'd like to replace them with a condition that reads um a tree replacement plan in compliance with the city's tree ordinance city code chapter 1724 will be provided to the planning division for approval prior to issuance of any grading or building permits and i wanted to make sure that that one was okay um in g uh i'm backing up one um it starts with any any special work including mitigation within the tree present protective zone must be done under the supervision of a city approved uh certified arborist it goes into a condition that i think should be separated as its own condition but not reworded that just says the building materials elevations and appearance of this project is presented for issuance of the building permit blah blah blah blah that should be separated as its own condition and probably pulled out of the tree preservation um section um then at the end i added i added three hmm i added five new conditions um these are all pretty standard uh quish conditions for us and it has to do with um wildlife preservation and what have you so the following notes shall be printed verbatim on all plan sets submitted for improvement plans grading permits and building permits to avoid impacts to solitary roosters trees shall be should be removed in pieces rather than felling the entire tree felled tree pieces should be taken gently to rouse any bats and then left overnight prior to removal from the site or on-site chipping to allow any bats to exit the roost if roost cannot be removed during the non-maternity season a pre-construction roost assessment an emergency survey and i'm sorry an an emergence survey should be conducted in suitable habitat on or adjacent to the project site if maternity roost is located that roost must must retain undisturbed until september 15th or until a qualified biologist has determined that the roost is no longer active and in an app if an active maternity roost is found uh come compensatory mitigation shall be provided through consultation with california department efficient wildlife and may include construction and installation of suitable replacement habitat on site the next and again these are relatively standard um the next one uh if construction activities commence between february 1st and august 31st the following standard measures shall be implemented for birds the initial ground disturbance or vegetation removal occurs within the breeding season a qualified biologist will conduct a breeding bird survey no more than seven days prior to the ground disturbance to determine if any birds are nesting in in trees adjacent to the study area if active nests are found uh close enough to the study area to affect breeding success the biologist will establish an appropriate exclusion area around the nest this exclusion zone may be modified depending upon the species nest location and existing visual buffers once all young have become independent of the nest vegetation removal and grading may take place in the former exclusion zone and if initial ground disturbance is delayed or there is a break in the project activities of greater than seven days without or within the bird nesting season a follow-up nesting bird survey shall be performed to ensure nests have not been established in the interim the next condition is the following notes shall be listed under the heading of general notes on all plans that submitted for improvement plans grading permits and building permits assigned shall be placed in clear view along sabastopol road frontage that provides contact information for the on-site general contractor or superintendent or a designated representative including name phone number and email address on a side note that's there so that people will contact you or your crew prior to contacting the city and hopefully resolve whatever the issue is before uh before we need to get involved and then going on another note under that same heading uh a response to issues raised or complaints received shall occur within 24 hours again a side note they may not be resolved within 24 hours but at least there's contact and maybe a path to resolution uh back to the next condition that i'd like added um add a condition into the cc and rs that require trash bins be stored out of view from the public i i understood your comment whoops side note again i understood your kind comment during the um concept design review meeting that you were going to have space in garages but i know a lot of times people don't like to store their trash in the garage so in the event that they screen them outside they need to have some sort of screen or something or maybe in their side yard if they can do that um and then back to another note for the cc and r's trash bins may be brought out the evening before trash pickup and must be pulled back within 24 hours and then the final the final condition is a very easy one provide a copy of the conditions of approval with all applications for permits including improvement plans grading plans and building permits and that condition will expedite your review process immensely so that is those are all the additional conditions and i i think that those conditions will address some of the concerns about um some of the wildlife and the other trees on site and if you accept those uh or have any questions about them samantha yes sorry i'm just um just going through the mute unmute process um and i would ask also um i believe mary bean um are the the lead sequel consultant um is here as well and i would ask that she also be um unmuted if that's okay so i'll i'll speak to um a couple of these susie and then i think that there are some that probably need more conversation so um as far as the construction hours um i think the 7 p.m. is one that we'd like to keep but i'm definitely willing to add no construction on sundays or holidays um i think we're fine accepting that um in addition um the cc and r's requiring trash bins to be out of view i think you had two conditions on those those are acceptable and providing the copy of the conditions of approval um is acceptable as well um the uh there were a fair number of other ones and i apologize because i am not a very auditory person so um that may have been a little fast for me but i think um mary if you could speak to um the other i don't know if she's here but if she could speak to me okay yes we can hi mary how are you i'm doing well thank you um from first carving solutions we prepared the agend them and the addendum included a number of mitigation measures from a specific plan or reference to the general plans so i just wanted to make sure i understood the genesis of you know what the additional things you were adding because we didn't identify that as part of the the sleepwalk process well and and i think what i would say is i would be um and there may already be a condition that is like this but i think if we add a condition that says um and i don't know if mitigation is the right word mary you'll have to correct me here um that the project will comply with all of the mitigations as required by the sequa addendum and the you know the eir there too um i think that that will cover everything i don't want um you know i don't want to get into a position where there are things that may be conflict with what's in the sequa uh document because all of that's been studied and reviewed and reviewed by me and our legal team and so i think um if we add these new ones that may be um duplicates or duplicates but somewhat um different like written somewhat differently i think we're gonna um end up in a confusing situation but as far as the posting signage i just realized i missed that one um yes happy to post the signage with the number listed in the 24-hour response time so i may say i i i can go back and i can look at at look at the conditions these are pretty standard our tree protective measures certainly with the birds and bats um the bat bat conditions have been written differently mary can you tell me if the um if there are measures um that were included for for both bird and bat survey yep um so measure this comes from either the general plan or the specific plan um and applies to all projects within the specific plan area if there's a potential for disruption of a nest or disturbance to bird or bat nest um you have to it's a whole long paragraph um conditions so there's a very comprehensive set of actions that need to be taken through the protection of nest and birds and bats okay so i i i'd like to take i'd like to take a couple minutes and just look at that and before before relinquishing my additional conditions and make sure that make sure that the critters the birds and the bats um are are protected um what i i i don't want to see is i i guess samantha do you have a timeline on your project for breaking ground i i don't know that i know that that is so such a broad question considering improvement plan review absolutely yeah so i think um if things go well today then um we are in front of the planning commission in february it generally takes six to eight months to get um permits improvement permits approved with the city and so um you know our goal would be to start in um would be to start outside of the nesting season um but also being aware that there's the rainy season right there and so that may end up we may end up um doing a very small amount of work um this year to avoid the nesting season and then uh waiting for the rainy season to be over before starting with um ground disturbing activities so likely the likeliest of the scenarios okay yeah i'm seeing other developers do the same thing where they're doing their tree work to avoid that nesting season um let's see um i i i want to i want to look at i want to look at the measures that have been required i don't know and they're not necessarily project specific but these are real common and i get if we've already conditioned that that we don't need to recondition it um i've heard the same thing from the planner so um but i'm not familiar with all of those and i'd like to be able to look at them before before i pull back another option is that um we pull back and we look at those those protective measures a little bit more closely and add those conditions that are that may be missing to the planning commission resolution christine is that something you think that could be done we can i'm happy to participate in that review in any way i can but i think we can um we can probably punt on that but i want to make sure those measures do end up on a resolution if they're not already required through the the CEQA process does that sound fair um samantha and mary yeah i see i think what i'm hearing is that um we're going to move forward with the construction hours um condition the signage condition the ccnr's and the copy of the coa's conditions and you had some additional um uh items that you wanted us to check to make sure we're covered by CEQA if they are not then um christine would be recommending those to the planning commission well and it's not just CEQA these are our standard measures so your your tree replacement plan that's compliance with our city code okay so that that's not a CEQA item these other measures are measures that um california fishing wildlife have have actually requested that we add on they're pretty standard measures if they're competing with measures that are already there i i don't want to i don't want to cause confusion i don't want to duplicate in uh conditions but i do want to make sure they're there if they have not or if they're not addressed specifically in those um other measures that that mary's referring to that makes sense to me okay and i want to go back to to the the hours of construction yes if you need to go to seven p.m i think that that would be on a just an occasional for something that needs to be completed i we condition these days just about every development project that's adjacent to residential uses to avoid interruptions to dinner hours yeah pretty much morning breakfast and um family dinner hours seven o'clock is is a bit late i how about if we um just apply that same you know if there's a if there's a something coming up that you know they're going to go into the evening hours that we send a notice out a courtesy notice out to neighbors and let them know that that'll happen sure we can do that okay so let's let's go ahead and just keep those tree or that uh revision to the hours um with the five o'clock and then in the event that an exception is necessary that the developer shall provide a 10-day notice and i also want to add you can also ask uh christine for to or me or anybody any other city staff member well i shouldn't say any other cities to have them other planning staff to run the labels for you it's it's super quick for us to do that and we can forward them over to you thank you sure and does that only includes exterior construction or um interior it's specific to noise so um we could modify that and say noise or noise or let's see construction noisy construction generated noise generating activities yeah yeah yeah construction related and that includes trucks does that construction related noise generating activity shall be limited to okay so so i yeah i think that's a super good point i think that we can modify that so it's uh construction related noise generating activities and again i'll reiterate it includes trucks but if you have a bunch of people inside you know installing electrical wires or painting that's absolutely fine it's quiet um the crews should keep their music down and music is the construction related activity and i have to i have to say i mean i i live in a home where i had a beautiful field it was very hard to see it go but um and i went right to the general contractor they turned off the music and they stopped doing construction outside the allowable hours so they were very considerate um i encourage any of your neighbors to contact you directly first before contacting the city but if you can just let the crews know that would be great and gosh i think that's probably a plan that should be printed on on or a condition that should be printed on the plan too so i'll add that okay um so let's see we got the hours of operation we're going to punt on the additional bird protective measures um but we'll go ahead and keep the the uh tree replacement plan is yes agreed okay sorry i'm i'm trying to find the mute button yes we can oh your replacement plan okay you can just leave yourself unmuted if you want it's we're just about done but and then um on the um as far as the bird and bat uh conditions we'll look back to the um and i i think uh mary i'm gonna enlist your help on that to go ahead and and confirm i'm how i'm sure christine can send over the language um sure okay and then uh samanta you said okay to adding those those trash related conditions to the ccnr's yes yay and this onsite sign i know you said yes to and um the copies of conditions of approval so so with that um as recondition which basically are everything that i talked about except the bird and bat protective measures we will go ahead and um i'll approve the project grant design review and adopt the addendum oh gosh i totally forgot about that thank you for that reminder yeah so there are two there are two um ah there are two resolutions here and i need a second to pull them both up so they're right in front of me and i can read them gosh i'm so sorry you guys i'm not used to doing this caliber project almost there i can't get to the zoning admin uh here we go okay first resolution this is a resolution of the zoning administrator of the city of santa rosa adopting an addendum to the certified north santa rosa stationary a specific plan environmental impact report state clearing house number two zero one one one zero two two zero three four for the oh sorry you guys thought that sounded a little odd retain addendum backing up okay retain yes a resolution of the zoning administrator of the city of santa rosa adopting an addendum to the certified roseland area sabastical road specific plan environmental impact report state clearing house number two zero one six zero one two zero three zero for the britain townhomes project located at 851 britain lane santa rosa assessors parcel number zero three five zero six three zero three five file number maj two two dash zero zero two and prj two two dash zero zero five and wave further reading of the text and i am approving that that addendum that resolution and then the second the second resolution for design review resolution resolution of the zoning administrator of the city of santa rosa approving minor design review for the britain townhomes for the property located at 851 britain lane santa rosa assessors parcel number zero three five zero six three zero three six file numbers dr two two dash zero one zero and prj twenty two dash zero zero five with the revised conditions um i will also be approving that thank you for your patience as i'm going through this thank you susie and thank you take care samantha and thank you mary i look forward to watching the planning commission meeting thank you take care thank you christine let's get back to my other pdf don't go far uh the next project item 5.3 is another public meeting it's the lmc santa rosa project and it again was found in compliance with the previously certified environmental impact report this is for design review reduced review authority at three five seven five mendicino avenue and the file number is dr 22 dash zero two six again the planner is christine chimians and christine we're halfway down take it away thank you susie so this is lmc emblem santa rosa and it's a minor design review for a project at three five seven five mendicino avenue so you might be painfully aware of the history of this project site it was badly um burned in the 2017 tubs fire the former journey's end site it's bounded by um mendicino avenue cleveland avenue 101 and the mendicino avenue um uh overpass and it's located in the mendicino avenue corridor priority development area so similarly to the britain uh lane project this project benefits from a reduced review authority um entitlement sequence so rather than major design review this project is allowed to go forward with minor design review as long as it has a neighborhood meaning and goes to concept design review with the designer view board i wanted to give you a little bit of history for this site as far as the entitlements are concerned um and just to give you a overview of why um the sequa how did we arrive to an sca for for instance so um on february 24 2020 an application was submitted to develop 532 multi-family units this included 162 units for low and very low income senior households um that's the project site outlined in the dark blue that's kind of not notching out the project site that project is currently under construction and that was phase one of the project phase two would um would involve the remainder of the project site and it would include a um a private park for public use and um market rate multi-family um the applicant came back on december 8 2020 the city council um approved um they adopted a sustainable community's environmental assessment also known as a scea or scea they approved a general plan amendment for a mobile home to transit village medium and rezoning from rural residential resilient city to transit village residential resilient city the senior housing combining district applied to the two and a half acre senior housing uh portion um and on june 8 2022 the app got submitted a minor design review application that modified um the total unit count for the market rate component from 422 units to 206 units and they are proposed to be dispersed with um across 13 separate buildings and the modified units would consist of 182 one-bedroom units 78 two-bedroom units ranging from 637 to 1099 net square feet the project also includes um a uh approximately 5000 plus square foot clubhouse that would include a fitness facility leasing office maintenance room work room and outdoor swimming pool that's shown in the orange on your screen and as i mentioned before the required entitlements for this project would be neighborhood meeting concept designer view with the designer view board and then the minor designer view that is before you today um and then um just to note that there is an existing sound wall that um uh goes along highway 101 the applicant is proposing a retaining wall wooden fence along the Mendocino um overpass um to the north and because of the park there is no fencing proposed along Mendocino Avenue and this uh just to show you the unit mix on the proposed site and the parking spaces that are proposed um i believe they are over over parked there is a large trash enclosure towards the front of the site um i believe the applicant will discuss their plans for trash management these are the elevations uh proposed um it's a mix of um party i think a party point and stucco with some metal railings and an earth tone pallet here is a rendering of um what a many of the buildings would look like once they're built and here is the um materials board showing the types of materials that we used um the this as i mentioned before this did go before the designer view board um they were generally um had positive comments um not a lot of comments on the architecture but there were um repeated uh comments about the um color palette being the original color palette being too gray um and that given the history of the site of having been charred and um empty and sort of blighted because of the fire and the new project being a symbol of rebirth sort of for the city it's sort of a symbolic project site that they wanted a little bit more of a lively color palette or perhaps a warmer earthy earthy toned palette so this project um has an addendum to the schia that's before you and staff is recommending approval of the addendum and approval of the minor designer view the um applicant is here to answer any questions and to go over any um site management um how they propose to manage the site once it's built thank you just writing myself a couple notes um let's see um i'm gonna open up the public comment period oh i'm sorry just first before i do that let me ask does the applicant have anything that they want to add at this point if so ah there's a hand raised i don't know if that's it is tyler wood and part of the applicant team christine yeah okay good hey susie how are you today i'm good thank you how are you good thanks and christine great job on the presentation um i don't have anything to add but we are prepared to answer uh your questions or any other questions that the public might have yeah i'll go and ask the public first i just have a couple christine answered mine for the most part um so do we have any hands raised kyle if you wish to make a public comment via zoom please raise your hand the raise your hand icon is located at the bottom of the zoom screen if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute what's called upon so name administrator murray it looks like there's no hands raised at this time thank you very much okay and then next i'd like to ask chair weigel also to chime in he was at that meeting i was yeah um so uh i actually want to start with the the clubhouse um i want to commend the applicant for listening i think to us um it you know it looks like uh they they took to heart a lot of the comments we made particularly about the the kind of the the vernacular of the palette um in the previous version all the stone was a little out of place and so it's great to see that they've integrated um kind of the local serpentine and sire stone in various ways either in stacked scenarios or in kind of a rubble stone uh configuration so that's uh fantastic um i think the the color palette on the clubhouse is a significant improvement a lot less gray introduction of the green is nice and they've widened the siding it looks like based on the elevation so uh the the pattern doesn't feel as tight um and the uh their introduction of uh the warmer beige tones uh is is really is is really nice and then also the change from kind of gray windows to uh to a brown um is really nice so really appreciative of that and i also like the the red color i think um if you go with the the brighter kind of orange red they had before it's going to fade horribly and this new red i think is uh it's a little bit more pastel so it'll be a little hopefully a little bit more uh resilient towards UV ray degradation so i wanted to thank them for those changes on that clubhouse and then that that really translates then to the apartment buildings um they took that same note on the stone and they broadcast that uh across the stairway entries which is really nice and then the change of the color palette as well uh to kind of mimic what's happening at the clubhouse but uh they've done it in a different way and so there's a lot more brightness uh to the to the apartment buildings with the the lighter stucco which is great as opposed to the gray stucco we had before um my only concern uh on the apartment buildings themselves is on the end caps um i think we had a comment about trying to create a little bit of depth with the siding component that's running vertically it appears that it's still flat if you will um so uh while it is nice that the facade is broken up um in materiality it would be nice if that that bumped out that the siding bumped bumped out excuse me or furred out i mean they could just the easiest way to do that would probably just use a different size uh stud frankly um and then uh my only other comment related to the architecture is i believe we had a comment on the trash enclosure previously uh questioning the usage of the cmu and so i'm still seeing the cmu in the revised version and compared with the the palette occurring everywhere else the cmu feels a little bit out of place a little bit industrial i know trash enclosures aren't the sexiest things uh in the world um but it would be nice uh if if it was either maybe painted or a colored cmu block that fit within the the context of uh the palette and then also i have a question on the columns that are engaging the uh what appears to be a steel door looks like a different type of brick um so i'm unsure and it's not on the the the palette the finish board if you will so uh don't exactly know what that is so i wanted some clarity from the applicant um and then beyond that i think this is by and large what we had previously seen uh was a good solution to the uh problem proposed to the developer and it remains a good solution uh based on the economic constraints that they shared with us the last time um the original conceptual layout of this parcel was um aggressive in a good way um trying to find a way to to build a parking structure and build denser but unfortunately if memory serves the the economic component didn't quite work out but we are appreciative as a board that at least a project was brought forward and that the project in many ways serves some of the same concepts and issues that that that the larger more dense project would have served um so i think i think that's it for all of my comments susie can i ask those couple of questions i have a clarifying question for you um you were talking about the the end caps uh creating depth with a siding component and possibly just using a thicker um or a larger beam um or uh support beam um was that just on the clubhouse or was that on the residential so that that was on the residential buildings um so on all the residential buildings they're they're all the same right and they all have uh kind of a short dimension and then a long dimension so in the short dimension which uh in in most of these is i guess the there's a central uh bit uh buildings 1 13 5 6 and 8 are all oriented east west so the east west faces and then buildings uh 12 11 10 9 7 4 3 and 2 are oriented north south so i'd be talking about the north and south elevations on those guys um so if you bring up i don't know if chris and i can do this yeah there we go great chris that's perfect um so chris and i if you could hover your cursor over there yeah that green bit exactly yeah so there is that nice entry point um down below which does project out which is uh fantastic that's uh that uh part of uh i believe a hallway or staircase um if i go to the plans oh no it's a little storage room uh which is still nice um but uh it would be nice if uh we could get a couple of extra inches uh on that vertical piece above the little storage room that's in green does that make sense susie yes that does make sense can you tell me the north south and i'm building numbers i'm sorry i'm trying to open up the project plans but they're taking their sweet time yeah they they're quite large i had to i was trying to open them on my city ipad and that that was not working so they're on my work computer here um okay so buildings 1 13 5 6 and 8 it would be their east and west elevations and buildings 2 3 4 7 9 10 11 12 it would be their north and south elevations yeah and and i guess um you know the way i would think about this architecturally um because the transition uh i i guess the the other reason i'm thinking about it is it's a it's kind of a constructability pain also to transition from stucco to siding all in the same plane uh because they typically are not the same thickness right um so if you can bump one or the other it makes the transition uh easier and cleaner for installation so i guess what i was trying to get at is um there's a wall so they're exterior walls and it appears that they're two by four construction currently they might be two by six um and what the architect and the builder could do in those locations is just change to either a two by six or a two by eight or even a two by ten you know just in that small little area above those storage units where that where that siding is and then that would um that wouldn't change anything else across the building the interior face of the gypsum board would be the same i'm gonna just have a little bump out and so then that way they could actually create a corner with their siding and come back and it would die into this uh stucco a little bit easier it's just my opinion having done a lot of transitions between materials so that's yeah i don't think the project live or dies lives or dies by it but um i think it will help them um and and i think the the cost is is a moderate cost material wise but it it'll likely be saved on the back end via labor just my humble opinion thank you i appreciate your humble opinion very much and so i i i too have some questions um but i i guess i can start i'm gonna start with that while it's fresh in my head and ask um the applicant uh tyler um if if that's something that that seems like we could we could add a condition to just add some um depth i guess or what's the opposite of depth to pop out on that that that green strip on the on the end cap of the buildings is that something that you think could be feasible yeah it's i think that's a reasonable request we can study how to articulate that appropriately and we can certainly circulate it back to staff and chair weigel to make sure that it passes muster and achieves the uh desired design intent okay then um gosh i didn't i didn't draft any conditions um i think i can i can put something together christine do you want to take a stab at that or do you want me to do that at the condition the added condition for the buildings yeah i was thinking instead of numbering all all the buildings just saying the short sides i totally agree i just think you can since the buildings are all if not the same very similar um i think you can just yeah write a condition does the numbering might change yes it's similar for building permits so i get it and it applies to all the buildings so it'd be a design design review condition yeah to um pop out on the on the end caps pop out the green or the center strip yeah susie i would just i mean if i if i you know we write conditions all the time obviously um but i would agree i think what christine's recommending is good and uh if if it were me i would say on the short side of all housing buildings residential buildings apartment buildings you could say it anyway um the horizontal siding component uh needs to pop out you know or fur out i would call it a fur out and uh that that you know the dimension is you know i think irrelevant um but you know i would say substantial fur out but i'm i'm not saying that they need to go put in you know a foot or anything um but i think you know two inches is reasonable to create both the shadow line and and also the you know kind of the ease of material transition i i'm not familiar fur out f f u r r f u r r okay that's how i spelled it i'm like i don't have the time to go do my usual usual google search anyways okay so that that takes care of that and um let's see you know i want to throw out a huge compliment i mean i don't know what the i don't know what plans were submitted um for uh concept but i thought that the elevations that i saw the the green and then the color palette with the red i thought it's really nice so i don't again i don't know where you started it sounds kind of ashy and i'm it's it's really nice the way it's designed um i want to go to the trash enclosure next because chair weigel and i or he had some questions i also have a question i'm wondering if we could bring up the site plan and see the locations of the trash enclosures but also um the design i don't remember seeing a um a person door um and i want to i'd like to add in a door so that people can go in and drop off their trash um without or opening up the large doors and i'm not there may be an alternative plan that i just didn't understand so christine or or tyler if christine brings up the the site plan can one of you help me understand where the trash enclosures are yeah i'd be happy to do that um i'll just wait for christine to pull up the site plan create so christine's identified the site plan or uh excuse me the trash enclosure here on the site plan it's on the northeast corner of the site so uh chair weigel and christine may remember on earlier site plans we had a number of trash enclosures distributed around the site and ultimately we studied this a great deal believe it or not because project i think under a certain type of trash enclosure obviously with three streams of waste management and appropriate access for people to um access themselves um required i think six to eight enclosures and so we thought that was a little bit excessive uh for a site of this nature so what we've proposed instead here is actually we're going to run a ballet trash service so people only need to put their trash outside of their door and it will be picked up on a regular basis by a third party operator and then taken to this larger enclosure and then they will use the components within this enclosure to appropriately maintain the streams of waste from the project and so that we felt like served a couple different functions so number one it resolved the amount of space that the additional trash enclosures on site would take and so we could obviously use that space for other things uh the second thing is it reduces the noise and disruption from garbage trucks coming on site as you know garbage trucks tend to have some pretty irregular hours sometimes they start pretty early in the morning uh so we felt like this was a good way to minimize the disruption to our residents and to our neighbors for trash services and then the third thing is we found that this was um more economical for the project in some different ways which certainly allow us or allowed us to address some of the other requests for the project to make sure that it was really meeting the design intent of city staff the design review board in the community so that's what we have proposed here got it um can on the um I actually I want to say first I think it's brilliant I love the idea of a trash valley um I'm I'm concerned I'd like to know how frequently that service would run yeah it will run probably three days a week where they collect trash and certainly um we can make arrangements with our on-site staff to retrieve any trash in the interim so the project will be staff fairly significantly for maintenance and uh ground management team so I think it's three days a week from the valley trash service and then any interim requests any interim requests will be addressed by on-site staff who have like a tub or something where they come and just grab whatever the residents need to dispose of yeah I I think that I think that it would be necessary to have a contingency plan if you're only going to have the valet three days a week I'm wondering and I think I might be flirting a little bit with land use here so I may have to point here to the planning commission but I'd love to hear a recommendation um to the planning commission for them to consider this but I think it's a good idea for staff or even better if people have you know if you limit the days that they can put their trash outside that if they do have you know somebody cook salmon or something and they want to get rid of that stinky or trash um on the the other days that maybe they can get access to the the trash bins I don't know I mean that's just a thought um and the alternative is providing containers um attractive containers outside buildings that um so that there's not just trash bags sitting outside for two days yeah I think we can certainly do the containers thing that actually is something that is pretty normal with valet service because they want to standardize the pickup anyway and certainly we don't want um the condition of leaking trash bags outside of people stores we don't want that to become well it could become an issue in different ways so that's kind of standard practice and I would say for other valet trash services it's pretty common for valet trash um to be on a schedule and that people generally are able to adhere to that it's pretty you know it's an industry norm I've never even heard of it not funny an industry norm it's a great industry norm um it's so so getting back into the design the design review portion if you do containers do you think they would be permanent containers or like you know not like the trash bins that um that we see from ecology right you guess let me that makes sense well there would be size appropriately for a given household and uh they wouldn't be they would be a permanent fixture outside of the apartments obviously that would run afoul with a number of different codes so it's something that the resident has inside their home and yeah it would be like the regular trash bin and then they bring it out but it's just appropriately um sized for the valet to be efficient and picking up the bins and disposing them of them got it so it would only be stored outside on the day of the valet picked up yeah unless there was a special request in which case you know we're definitely sensitive to that I you know I would love to see um see just that plan um just to make sure that there's not you know in terms of aesthetics that it's just such a pet peeve of mine to see trash cans parked outside my neighbors hate me because if they leave their cans out I pull their cans up to their garage so they can't get in until they pull their trash cans in but um if we could um get a copy of your plan and I again I'm I'm flirting with um a land you sing but if you could christine please just refer my recommendation to the planning commission I'd appreciate it um we're just asking for a copy of that plan so we can just understand how it works um hey susie can I interject here real quick yeah so my my understanding is that um you're actually the final arbiter on this project we're not slated to go to planning commission oh there's no there's no map associated with this project there was one on retain but this one doesn't have a map I'm confusing them so so then let's go ahead if you don't mind tyler if I can add a condition just to just that you provide a copy of the the trash plan it's it's not etched in stone I completely understand that that may change in time but just so if uh other people want to understand that and I do I I'd love to be able to um to direct other people to it when we see projects like this in the future yeah we we can certainly give you our waste management plan that's something we have and I also just want to acknowledge your sentiments about keeping the community in a cleanly fashion and not having people store their trash outside on a a visual basis um I would certainly diminish the living experience for our residents so you know you'll see conditions surrounding that in the plan um to address your concerns good thank you so much I I have no doubt about that I just that I it's just something that I'd like to be I'd like to share it with other people so I I have a question about the park and this is um you said you know the the public can use it so there's a public access easement over the park we're in the process of pulling that together but yes that will be in place cool it's it's so necessary up there I drove past the site and I could see you know it's clearly under construction and I was thinking gosh you know what about Kristina Kristina explained the sound wall that I was worried about 101 traffic um I think parking on the parking is is is there a parking I do do they have assigned parking spaces to will the residents have assigned parking spaces yes okay okay well I think then um um I think hold on one second um I want some notes I think that's about it for me um if if you don't have any if you're willing to accept I think I just added two conditions Marie Susie um Drew also talked about the trash enclosure I didn't know if you wanted to that's yes he did um there you go and Tyler how about adding some color to the CMU blocks got a note here and I just scanned right over it yep and I apologize we actually intended to do that and we didn't represent it on the materials that staff has so if you'd like to add that as a condition that's fine we'll we'll happily pick a color that you guys deem as appropriate for the trash enclosure okay um I I think that I would yeah Susie if I could chime in um I think why I'm concerned about it is it's at the entrance to the to the facility off of Mendocino right so um I think the design team the applicant team can can kind of solve that issue probably with with two things one would be um either adding color or a veneer to the enclosure the second option would be adding color to the CMU block only and then planting it you know with some some creative landscaping around it to to obscure it if that makes sense and so I'm going to leave it up to the applicant team to to figure out what works best for them I think that would be the way I would direct that if we're this a DRB hearing Tyler do you have a preference I personally I would lean towards the planting around it given its location I didn't I didn't consider that but its proximity to Mendocino Avenue a very well traveled street in that area I think it makes a lot of sense to pretty it up on the the um east well the the northeast and south elevations and I think you could do that pretty easily with some vines yeah absolutely I agree plantings would be a natural solution with the painted um cinder block so we'll study that with our landscape architect and come up with a concept that is um that meets kind of the intent of these comments and we can work with christine as needed to kind of figure that out if you guys are okay with it I'm I'm completely confident with christine looking at that I mean there's some really nice IVs and stuff that that grow up concrete walls um they use them for the freeways all the time and you don't need a lot of water for them another one is I think look at hops but just a thought anyways anyways so with those conditions and we've got three conditions now we've got the the planting around the um the uh this the trash area um or the structure um and uh we have the um end caps the articulation on the out of the pop out on the end caps and then oh and then the uh trash program just to understand that and with that with those three conditions added I will go ahead and approve this project um and like every and I'll read the I'll let me read on these reduced review authority projects I I want to get a little bit more um I want to read the resolutions just like our design review board does so the first resolution is a resolution of the zoning administrator making findings and approving the addendum to the sustainable communities environmental assessment schia uh pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act for the uh for 3575 Mendocino Avenue project file number dr22-026 way further reading of the text and I will be approving that and then uh the design review resolution of the zoning administrator of the city of Santa Rosa approving minor design review for lmc Santa Rosa for the property located at 3575 Mendocino Avenue Santa Rosa assessors parcel number 17303033 file number dr026 with the three additional conditions and um I'll be proving that both of those today um like every other action that was taken today this project has a 10 day 10 calendar day appeal period um which will expire on monday january 30th um you can work directly with uh planartumians or um come into uh the city to uh planning and economic development to submit your application um and again it needs to be submitted by january 30th and I think that I'm going to be able to adjourn the meeting if I I have to pull up my turn it my resolution I've got so many or my agenda so many things on my desktop open yes item six is adjournment of the meeting so I am adjourning the meeting at one o'clock straight up thank you all for attending the zoning administrator meeting of january 19th have a great day