 So we will call the meeting to order. At 603. First on the agenda is to approve the agenda. Looks like there. There are a couple of updates to the agenda. Looks like we solved the new pool pump. Related. Issues through the existing funding. Yeah, the wreck department. So we're going to remove that item for tonight. And then on the select board meeting minutes. So we're going to do that. We need to add the July 10th meeting minutes. But at the same time, we're going to have to table the 626 meeting minutes because there's only three of us tonight. And I wasn't here for those ones. So we'll just table those for the next one. Everybody's given that. And I don't see anything. Oh, they, if they have the accurate agenda, the update, the flood repairs is on their copies. Yeah. So it should be on the updated agenda if you have that in front of you. Yep. So. All right. So just need a motion to approve as amended. So moved. Okay. Moved by the needs. Just need a second. Okay. Being that actually just want to run by the board being there's only three of us tonight. Do we want to just move, move the article and then just all in favor and drop the second tonight? Does that sound right? Okay. Does that make sense everybody? Okay. So just move, move an article and then vote on it. Okay. Sounds good. All right. Genders in place. And first up, we have an appointment for 602 with Sally. Sally's here at the Seabed Inn. Hi, Sally. You're not ready? No, I haven't. Oh yeah. Yeah. We're ready for you. If you're ready. A review of what was previously handed to the select man. What we are requesting. One. We'd like to have the stone wall repaired so it can continue to stand into the future. Two. We're asking the town to give us back. Yeah. The most recent taking of one and a half feet on our property line. Three. We would like to have our past property taken given back. Doing so would require the roadbed to be moved back toward 29. And 49. Drive properties. Okay. So I've prepared the following. Well, I would like to express my gratitude for the opportunity to speak to you concerning our issues. I will speak my truth. There have been a number of significant changes to the area and the roadbed in and around 32. We, the present owners of this property Derek Underwood principal owner and his domestic partner myself, Sally Werness are keenly aware of these changes through what we've heard over the course of 18 years living at this location through documentation and most especially old pictures. Our 250 plus or minus feet that abuts the roadbed has been significantly altered over the years. Not just in the recent. The stone wall at the foot of Avon Drive and on our property is precariously about to reach its demise. Not only the lowering of main street in the past and hence over the course of years also lowering of Avon Drive and a consistent encroachment onto our property and grading of in front of and at both ends of this old stone wall has caused this. It is leaning forward and drooping at both ends due to the soil and foundation stones removed by the town road projects. The erosion was and is happening is significant. Under these circumstances, no property owner could have stopped the deterioration. Number one, you would like to have it repaired so it can continue to stand into the future. The Water Works project of two plus years ago should not have included widening the roadbed by taking another one and a half foot off our side of the road. Widening the roadbed was no longer a possibility after lowering main street in the past all available land on the street side being consumed by doing this major engineering of the streetscape. The underhanded taking of land on the side of running our property not being theoretically possible either by approaching another one and a half foot onto our land has put the town in jeopardy. Removing another one and a half feet of soil in front of our stone wall was too much. The embankment coming up Avon Drive had been greatly reduced as well allowing for two more white lines to be painted at the bottom of Avon Drive. And not just soil, but digging up and removing both our foundation stones was too much for the integrity of this ancient stone wall after all these alterations. The one and a half foot encroachment onto our land was along the entire 250 plus or minus feet of our property line. As was requested by us when the Waterworks Project was getting underway, but a resurvey of Avon Drive be done, old photos show a greatly altered roadbed and we would like to gain back some footage lost to us on the northwest corner and north side of our property. This was not done as we were told. The state grant did not allow for changes to the roadbed and yet without regard to potential issues developing to our property, the stone wall and house northwest corner, the heavy equipment came in and removed one and a half foot of our lawn and laid asphalt. We feel confident from old photos that the 20-foot town highway petitioned for in the 1876 survey never happened. In other words, it remained a 12-foot roadbed never reaching the 20-foot town highway. Nevertheless, the center of the road has laid out in the 1876 road survey as continued to be ignored. Encroaching ever closer to our national historic registered home, the roadbed now so close to the northwest corner of the house it feels like traffic is passing under our porch, not even in view. It has happened several times in the last year that exceptionally large vehicles leaving the roadbed at that corner and leaving frightening routes 12-foot long and six inches deep and ever closer to the brick corner of the house. This kind of heavy vibration including the road equipment removing our lawn causes damage to the foundation and the sinking of the porch pillar. Number two, we are asking the town give us back the most recent taking of one and a half feet on our property line. But again, these issues are not just of a recent concern. Our request to have the road resurveyed was because we could clearly see from old photos that this was not the first time the property line had been encroached on. An old roadbed line is clearly visible about 40 over at the opposite side from the northwest corner of our house. This scene in the present roadside running from there all the way in front of 29 and 49 Avon Drive. Given each of these properties several to many extra feet of property. We would like to have, number three, we would like to have our past property taken given that doing so would require the roadbed to be moved back toward 49 and 49 and 49 Avon Drive properties. Without exaggeration, I have spoken my truth. I stand at open invitation to any and all to a walking tour and I will speak to and point out all of these issues. Okay. So I think at this point, Sally, we'll have to confer with the town's attorney to find out what, legally, how we'd go about doing this or those types of things. So unfortunately, I don't know what kind of answer that the board can give you tonight being uneducated in the process of that. But what we can do is reach out to our attorney to find out, you know, the process and see what documentation that town has. I have an idea going forward and Derek and I will certainly work with coming to a resolution. I said that to Trace from the start. It's not something that just happened, although what did happen just added to our history. When the town was put on the National Historic Registry, it was for the district and I believe I was told by the lady from Montpelier that our home was the only single structure that was on the registry. So it deserves attention and respect even at this late stage of the game. We had it surveyed. Yeah, it touches on about two or three different separate state statutes so we just need to understand what our options are moving forward and then I'll let you know. 32. Directly across from center markets. Would you like me to leave my phone number? It's a landline in my house. If anybody is interested in contacting me and coming up. Sure. Trace has all your info. I know I have your number, so I can get it from Kelly. But yeah, so that's fine. So let's find out. I'll try to get him out an e-mail this week and then I'll let you know as soon as we know. But thank you for bringing in your stuff. I appreciate that. She's already sent us the other thing, so that's okay. All right, thank you, Sally. Yeah, take care. For the next Thunder Shower comes through. Yeah. I said hurry through before the next Thunder Shower comes through and get wet. And one we just had a few minutes ago was pretty intense. Yeah, no doubt. All right. So we that was the only appointment for this evening. So we'll open it up to public comment. If there's anything that is not on the agenda that anybody wants to bring up, we'll do the in-person people first. So if anybody has a hand raised, we'll take them. Doesn't look like anybody. No. All right. All right, we'll let you go, Ellie. All right. If you don't know, several people know that the storm caused havoc on my basement and I want to commend the fire department for being at my house Monday night the 10th and Tuesday morning the 11th and doing a lot to help me out. So the town has an amazing fire department. I really appreciate all that they did. And Merrill Mechanicals gave me a pumping action to get the level of the water at a reasonable level and then Bethel Strong came in and we're really very, very helpful about coming and helping me clean and sweep and get it better. And so things are getting better. But I have a couple of questions. And cleaning out after Irene, because Denise will confirm because she helped clean out after Irene, that when I cleaned out and took all this messy stuff that got damaged to the transfer station, I had to pay for it. After Irene, we got to take things and there was no charge. How come? Because I have more stuff that I would like to take to the transfer station that needs cleaning out. And I'm wondering why and how that it shouldn't be a charge. I would think it wouldn't be a charge just like after Irene. I don't know. I mean at the time of Irene, Bethel owned half the transfer station. We don't now. So it's all owned by Royalton. You could call my advice. We'd be to call the Royalton town office and speak to Victoria. She's the town administrator. She may be aware. There may be a program through the state, Ellie, where debris, maybe there's a program that I don't know because we don't want the landfill anymore. Her name is Victoria. And she's a town administrator in Royalton. Very, very nice lady. So I'd give her a buzz and see she may be aware of a program where it could get you reimbursed. Because the manager of course said well he wasn't around with Irene. You could also call 2-1-1. Well I did call and I registered and I have all my information. So if I call them again and then I can ask them. Yeah, well yeah, it's free. Why not? I would call Victoria first and then or maybe I'd call 2-1-1 first and ask them about a debris program. Because I know other towns have been collecting and I know people from other towns that have been getting their stuff. Yeah, that's a good question and I just don't know the answer. You're the first person to have asked. So you could call Victoria. You could also call 2-1-1 and see either one call. Maybe call 2-1-1 first and just say what do I do with this debris? Did you already take it to the transfer station? Yeah. Then I would tell them I took the transfer station and it cost me X amount of dollars. Maybe they'll tell you to tie it into your FEMA claim. Well I showed that to the FEMA gentlemen today and they don't have anything to do with that kind of stuff. Nice. I don't know, try 2-1-1. If you're running a program and if not call Victoria. Maybe they'll do something. If you don't get anywhere there either you can always contact your local representatives for Montpelio. So like Dick and Kurt and ask them if they may know of a program that isn't related to the flood that maybe you could use as well. Yeah, you're just the first person who's asked. I will make a note, Ellie. I'll look around and see if I can find out anything so I'll just make a note. Flood. Retrash, Ellie, question mark and see what I can find out too. My second question is when they're listing on information from information I've gotten emails from 2-1-1 or whatever disaster relief it lists and tells you about cleaning kits but it doesn't tell you how to get them. You're kidding. So where do I get a cleaning kit? How do I do that? I would ask that question of 2-1-1 when you call and I'll also look cleaning kit because I feel like I might have seen a link to that but I would call 2-1-1 when you ask them about the debris ask them about that but you're right I did see something but I've seen had so many emails but I will look but call 2-1-1 but I'll look too tomorrow about that. So because I was supposed to get a dehumidifier. A dehumidifier, yeah. But that didn't come through and I wound up having to go other towns have had no trouble getting one for their people but I wound up having to go to West Lebanon, New Hampshire and buying one personal one but I did talk to the female person about that that can be reimbursed and that can go through your claim. Yeah, that can go through my claim so that's okay but I just wanted to make sure about doing more stuff about trash and the cleaning. Yeah, so if you look and I'll look too tomorrow and I'll look too and see what I can find because I know I've read something about the cleaning kit but there's been so many emails every day that I can't remember where I read it but I'll find out. It would be nice. Because I'm trying to make sure I don't have mold. Absolutely, yeah. You call 211 tomorrow but I'll look too and I'll email you. Thank you. You're welcome, yeah. I wish I had an answer for you now. Anybody else in person that has anything? And online? Hi everybody. I was just wondering if you, I had submitted a catering request permit that stated August 12th. Wondering if anybody had seen that. I have not seen it. Pam was on vacation last week and she's on vacation this week. So I don't even know what our next select board meeting is. Hang on a second, Jesse. Let me look real quick because I haven't seen anything. It's August 14th. Okay, so why don't you just tell us about it? It's August when? The event is August 12th. It's basically the same thing we did July 15th. It's just in our, it's just asking for a permit for our front parking lot. Okay. What are the hours? What are the hours? Like six to midnight. It'll be done at midnight. So you do the same thing. You do the same thing. You do the same thing. You do the same thing. You set off and all that, right? Is it going to be out for entertainment? Yeah, it's a DJ. It's a dance party. Okay. So it's the same thing you did in July. Yeah. You know what? I'm sorry. I never even thought to ask Jean to look and now that they've gone. I'm sure Jean knows where to find it. So. Okay. If your permit is really just a copy of the other one, just a different date, then the board could make a motion to either to add the date for the permit as long as the permit isn't... I think you have to approve it separately because it's a different date. You'd have to approve it tonight separately on its own merits. But we'd need something to base it on. It's the same description as what was in July. Yeah. That's fine. When was the other one? July what? I'm sorry, Jesse. July 15. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Sorry. Mm-hmm. And that's just an outside consumption permit? No, it's a catering permit. Yeah. It's a request to cater permit. I've sent it through the state and it automatically gets sent to the town office. Oh, and I'm sure it's there, Pam. Yeah. I'm so glad you came otherwise. Right. Okay. I'll move an approval of a catering permit for... Is it babes? Yeah. For August 12th with the same conditions as in the July 15th permit. Okay. All in favor? Okay. Okay. All set, Jesse. Thank you, Jesse. Yeah. Sorry about that. No, that makes total sense that Pam is on vacation. Okay. And it does need to be sent digitally. Somebody needs to approve it on the townside so that it kicks back to the... Yeah. We'll figure that out tomorrow. I'll talk to Jean about it. And worst case scenario, I'll call DMV myself or not DMV, DLC and tell them what do you want from me. We're stuck. So I'll do it tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, that'd be great. Just email me, but I will talk to Jean tomorrow about it. Okay. No, that's okay. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thanks. I appreciate it. Yeah. All right. Anything else? I think the only person left is Paul. Paul, you got anything? Oh, I'm good. Okay. All right. We'll move along. So we had the facility use policy, which we had made some amendments to the occupancy pieces of a couple of areas a couple meetings ago. Yeah, and I did what you asked. I talked to Mary Floyd and Dietrich so that changed their numbers and also so those numbers changed a little bit and then also I gave you the insurance or the information from VLCT passive about insurance for rental of town properties. So that was my question for you guys under insurance requirements I will say we've been kind of lax about that in the past. Like if somebody rents it for a birthday party or baby shower or whatever. So I spoke to our insurance company and they obviously strongly recommend that the facilities rented for a special event. The renter be required to show they have liability insurance. So they could get it through their homeowners insurance as a rider or if their homeowners insurance won't do it they can go through this gather guard, this tulip program tenant user liability insurance policy to get it. So that's something completely new and I will say it may be helpful for people from using the hall if they have to come up with a do a rider on their insurance policy. However if somebody's here having a wedding reception or birthday party and someone slips and falls you know obviously they're going to sue us but it would be nice if somebody else proves that they have coverage too but it's something you haven't done before but obviously our insurance company recommends. Is there an amount or limit because I don't think she mentions well let me just see real quick. I can't remember her entire email. She just says liability coverage it would protect the municipality and many renters. Yeah she doesn't say an amount we could certainly state that. I'm not sure if it's if you have to get it up to an amount I've never had to add a rider to my loaner's for an event before so I don't know how it and she doesn't mention that an amount I'd like to assume she would have. I'm just curious yeah I don't know I can ask her if there's an amount so like I said that's just a avenue we haven't taken yet. That's challenging because you have you know like an organization often like they'll make it up say the girl scouts want to do something here often you can go through the girl scouts and they probably have some type of umbrella insurance that they can use but if you you know if you do the one-off person that wants to have the birthday party or maybe a reception for something you know right that that could affect them not knowing I mean I think it's a good idea that we should have it but I also kind of would like to know if they pay if they wanted to use that I could call I mean if this is a hundred dollar thing maybe it's not a big deal but if it's a you know you have a thousand dollars then you know that's kind of a big deal for a lot of people. I could probably ask Mel Washburn Alumni groups like have things like that because I mean they just had a thing at the recreation center the alumni so would alumni things have usually if you're part of some sort of organization it's pretty easy because they have the you know often you pay to be a member right they include you in a writer and it really kind of is about the hall too because sometimes you know people could go and have a wedding at Pevon they don't reserve it they could just go and attend and be you know because it's open to the public if they were trying to rent it then it would be something different but mainly the hall and is usually the bigger one but I could call local insurance company I'm sure that Mel Washburn might be willing to let me know how pricey it would be it would just be nice to know how the everyday citizen of the town would go about not just go about getting it other than the gather guard but what that expense may be for them to go through and then I guess we could weigh that is it you know I can ask and I'll ask we'll see if there's a liability dollar number so sure and then yeah the detree and Mary had kind of to give us feedback on numbers of people so that was okay alright so we can so other than the insurance requirements is the board have any other questions regards to the use policy or are we good at this point other than just knowing that I would support it as it is I just would like the information yeah no I agree it's a good question should we table this yeah I can put it on next because it's just a draft we can do it next in two weeks plus then you have Lindley and Dave here and Dave had his own questions but I tried to answer today but he may have more by then so yeah so motion to table yes okay all in favor aye okay so we'll table it to the was it the 14th meeting hate table and stuff but it would be nice to know yeah I agree that's fine just how that would impact the average person that wants to go about there's a public option yeah they've done that for years which is nice so yeah is there anything else that we can do on our league policy or is there any type of writers we can get that no that's yours the average Joe of the town if they want to use it we would just basically if we don't charge we're on the hook which we know we'd probably be getting sued anyway it's all us alright and Sullivan empowers annual engagement better 3.6% increase they came one day already and things are looking good and they'll be back in October I don't think that we'll need a single audit this year but we will most likely next year just with the whole flood and the next loan for the like what vorac and I think we'll spend over the money for federal dollars so for expenditures you have to spend over 775,000 per year yep that's fine and we'll hit that so um anyways but they came you know like I said the other day and did the preliminary work which is nice they come in you know look for stuff right there early out so which is nice yeah but they come yeah every year they always come right around year-end closing just before or just after which is nice and then they let you know if you've got or if I have a question you know like FEMA has been very confusing because you get paid some and so it's a whole thing about that so that's always handy to be able to have conversations before you make a mistake and make them then they have to fix your intrigue so there so anyways so that's the the deal with that one I guess the only thing I had looking at that was so and I've been here so long now it could be gone by but they had given us a three year commitment I want to say three years ago no it would be longer than that was it but it just seemed like every year we got to that next year commitment and the number that was committed ended up being a different number well they never gave you what the first year they gave you three boom boom boom now it's like every year yeah because I've been here five so we've done it we got a number the first year now we're just you remember that Paul and now it's a 3.6 which makes sense I mean by the time you look at salary increases and things like that I just remember them giving us three a year commitment and then once we got to the year that number wasn't well the net the net no fault of ours no one year was over because of a fault of ours if they have to do bookkeeping entry then it's beyond their scope and one year we had a really tough audit and I know it cost us more money than we'd budgeted but last year did not and and I don't anticipate this year will either the hard to not a lot of people do this anymore either but what do we need just a motion to a motion to approve their annual engagement letter all in favor so you just need to sign we'll pass around for the three of you to sign both copies one as ours one as theirs you want me to pen okay oh no I meant for Jean now the sun's back up I know I can't figure out what's going on out there it was pouring sunny pouring rain thunderstorm yeah I was born to beat the band now I'll just be hot yeah over the house it sounded like it just hit down the street yeah like once now those other two signed off yeah I think that's what was oh thank you alright thank you alright can we have a couple individuals to be appointed to the energy committee nope Chris Leicester and Wanderbeck Gack yep all in favor aye we weren't doing seconds tonight alright and then we had flood update so so the flood update is that I think we've got at this point we have inventoryed every road account I've entered everything into a spreadsheet I gave the spreadsheets today to Morgan he's going to look him over with AJ some of the work we will do ourselves which will be considered called the force account and then what we're going to have to contract out is going to be permanent work we do know that we have work to be done on Camp Brook Road which is outside of FEMA that's a federal highway grant work Du Bois and King got a hold of me today and said that yes they would take the project on so they will do the drawings, do the bidding, the whole enchilada they know that we want that done and wrapped up by fall because one of the things we talked about was a temporary fix then a permanent fix and talked to the state and they're like look let's just wrap this up and get it done before snow flies that's being taken care of we currently have contractors working on emergency work which is wrapping up anything now that we do will have to be bid even if it's under the $250,000 limit we at least have to get like three prices so that will be my focus starting tomorrow is going to be hopefully to meet with Morgan and AJ and then we know for a fact that most likely that you know Woodland is it something we're going to fix ourselves but it's also not our top priority we have to focus on other things first also remember because that portion may be a class 4 road I think it is and if it's class 4 we get no FEMA that's all going to be on us so that will not be a high priority class 4's the high priorities are class 3's obviously 1, 2, 3's so there's some we also know we won't do any work on Cleveland Brook Road that's a bigger project we need bigger equipment to place the bigger stone so that is going to have to go out to bid so we also have a section on Finley Bridge Road I'm waiting to meet with the state on that could be a large project that is basically from the river up to do some rip wrapping to secure the existing road and possibly looking at the land you know there's like a bit of a slide there too and that would be extremely pricey yeah so at this point everybody can get back to their homes Fox, Culvert or whatever out P-vine we'll have to do something at some point so anything that's we can upsize to a degree people get a little upset about FEMA but if we have a 15 inch culvert we can go to an 18 inch because that meets our codes and standards but we can't go to a 24 inch unless we pay for the difference we are doing a little bit of that on North Road I think it's it possibly could be 18 we don't know for sure till we dig it but we're definitely going to go to 24 so if there's a little difference we are going to take care of that because it constantly floods in one spot so at this point some of the roads aren't perfect they are one lane and I have asked on social media if you don't live on the road don't drive on it because the ground is so saturated that more vehicles driving on it just you know is eroding it so we certainly we've got through the worst part which frankly was inventorying everything and now we just need to sort out what we're going to do and what we're going to put out to do because there are very specific requirements from FEMA and if you don't follow it they won't pay you that's the bottom line so tomorrow the town manager's office is closed just a staffing shortage so it's fine because it'll be not answering the phone or the door I can focus on getting some more stuff done tomorrow it'll be open on Wednesday just tomorrow it's just a staffing issue it comes at a good time and after the flood like the most common thing that people say is like oh we got upsized those culverts make sure they're upsized and it's like the culverts did their job the problem is is all the debris that comes down and gets into the culvert so it's not the culvert's size most of the time it's the issue it's the tree debris or whatever it is that gets lodged and as soon as that happens because you go out and look right now in a lot of places that the roads are washed out the culverts are still sitting there it's the debris and we did have some individuals in the town that took it upon themselves during the storm to make sure that they were out there and if they saw culverts being plugged they unplugged them which just a couple of them that saved us was Derrick was out on Route 12 near my house and as soon as well that culvert was one where it was operating at full capacity and water was still trying to find a way down back of the fire station into the trailer park and we would have known that that would have been a disaster and by him getting out there early and addressing that it's we started to get quite a bit of water in the trailer park and then it receded after he fixed that so during Irene we just kind of sat there and at the end we said okay let's start fixing things but this time we had individuals that were in the field during the storm as well as well as Alex was up in the Camp Brook Road area where he had selectively been pulling debris out of some culvert stat and we all know after the other flood events we've had you know half a million or plus dollars worth of damage on that road and we for the most part were unscathed this time around except that one spot so yeah we have a couple washouts but nothing so I think some of that came with some of the best things looking at was you know the storm was longer so there was opportunities to do work inside the storm where Irene the water came so fast you know you couldn't prioritize because everything was going down at the same time but at the same time I think a lot of those problem areas were addressed and people were already looking for those problem areas and we're out there proactively helping or actually really fast of reactively you know doing things in the field so I think that really worked out for us pretty good and it'll be definitely something on you know when the next one happens because we've been through four floods here in 15 years so it's like every four or five years you know the last one in 2019 did a lot of damage but I think the opportunities that we're starting to see is you know because there are other neighbors of ours that got hit really really hard and I do feel that some of the upgrades that we had done from the previous storms were pretty much untouched that helped out but just some of our citizens being proactively out there looking for issues and when they saw it they jumped in without asking and did stuff plus our people were out through the whole storm you know if it was bailing water out of people's basements or I mean there was so much that was going on during the storm a lot of people got active so I'd like to definitely thank everybody that was helping out and maybe we'll even get to the point on the next storm where we'll say okay you're gonna watch this there because we know where the problem areas are absolutely but we did you know some of it's luck and some of it's just us getting used to these storms and knowing where to be in the right spots but if you look at some of the people some of the people downstream of us didn't do so well so if you go down in the Plymouth Bloodlow area that's just everything emptied through there that's terrible so no I think it's hard so right now but anyone's listening we are not coming to repair your driveway I've had a couple of those phone calls it's your driveway you'll have to repair it I'm sorry that's it I grant sometimes water will take out your driveway but we've also had people who have not maintained their own storm water and kept their own driveway culvert clean which taken out town roads so it's it can flow both ways no pun intended but like when we saw a camp Cleveland Brook Road Morgan had a great example he's like I got four feet of water and a two foot culvert he's like with 15 three inches and 15 minutes because that's FEMA one that's a separate project that he's like and you can see where the culvert was clean and it took what it could and what it couldn't it eroded and took out the road down below so that culvert was doing its job it wasn't plugged it just couldn't take that amount of water and I think two people forget we talk about a bubble after rain stops here that's great but we still have all that rain up above that's coming so it takes a little while to drain off but the fire department was wonderful they were great Morgan was out you know we and I were messaging like three in the morning and the fire department was super helpful and then after they were pumping basements and we were lucky I have seen the two one one list we've had a few people that have made they're going through the FEMA process some will be paid and some won't but I don't know anything about that that's a separate branch of FEMA but so just ask people to be patient as we have just finished you know getting all of the spots together and we're going to have to go back because you have to get the starting GPS the ending GPS you have to measure the distance the width the depth you have to have exact culvert number and so there's a lot to it to get done and then to input it and so that's where we're at now and then I'll start doing bid docks for some of the bigger stuff Cleveland Brook and other places and then the town the road crew has to decide what they're going to do so what will be force account labor and what we're going to bid out so but the contractors we have currently are going to finish the work they have we cannot give them more work they have to do anything new they'd have to bid on they're just going to finish what we term start as emergency worker it's exigent work there's a I was reading like there's like this much paperwork from FEMA about the rules which I don't think we're all the same as in 2019 and then all the forms have changed but anyways so you know we just ask people to still use caution there's a lot of areas on dirt roads where there's missing you know if you get over too far you're going to go in the ditch. There's that one on Camp Brook Road and I was driving the U-Haul truck up there and I knew that was there and there was a truck coming down a big truck coming down with a trailer so I just stopped and waited had I been from one of the Massachusetts turnpike people on the road they would have dumped a U-Haul right in that hole because the cones keep getting moved when they painted the stripes the paint the stripes they just knocked the cones all over the place and people put them back up but there's only one out of four there now. I'm sure people hit them and unfortunately people steal the cones and I know I also want to say thank you to Pike they gave us and the state of Vermont they gave us cones they gave us road signs they you know have been good to us because we were out and even existing our surrounding towns were like we got nothing we have no cones I mean at one point Morgan was like I'm gonna need 1500 cones just to do a friendly bridge road and we're like what and then we drove it and we were like holy cow we drove exactly it was not at $40 up but he wasn't wrong he would have needed it I say I'm broken hill and I just wait forever because people come up north road they don't care that it's one lane and I see somebody come up I wait my turn but then somebody else is coming zooming up and I just keep waiting and waiting until nothing is on me and then I go down. Yeah and it's frustrating too because if you're out there working people are still I mean Chris and I were on pee vine and somebody just flew by us I'm like we have vests on there's a light on the truck there's like a flash I mean and they can see you for a ways and they can see you for a ways and they just I'm like man I don't want to die this way one thing that people have to and it's probably this is a good form to put it on there but it's something that always comes after events like this is a lot of fraud. So people really need to be on the lookout for that because they will impersonate themselves as a FEMA person or yeah American Red Cross or whatever it is so just make sure that these organizations will never ask for your personal information either over the phone and if they come in person there are ways that well one organization and there are ways that you can verify that you know if Red Cross comes they will give you the Red Cross information then there's a number you can verify those people because unfortunately behind any type of issue like this you usually have lots of fraud lots of scams and just make sure people are really keeping them out for that. And they said oh we can't make it send this picture send people well we'll need $10,000 up front over the phone and she's like yeah I don't think so Call the attorney general's office. To the state attorney she's been giving all this information over the radio so I've been listening to all the things that she's been talking about about fraud and stuff and doing that and I have everybody spend 2-1-1 and FEMA has given me a special code number that I have so that I that I only call the code and we should probably I want to say you guys put something in there but we should probably at least for the next couple weeks is just keep refreshing that to the top so people keep that in mind because there'll be a lot of it. Because Red Cross did. I wonder if we could also say thank you to those people who actually did go out and Oh yeah Chris was talking about maybe doing trying to do something like an event which you know maybe in September I mean invite people that were out and helpful in trying to do something something that you can talk about and I'd like to just pass along a citizen who lives on North Road who was express concern early but then came back and said you all done a wonderful job. I did have Kelly right after like a couple days after I had her order so thank you so that I could write you know hand write some notes to people thanking them too as well and yeah it's been kind of just trying to keep your head above water at this point. Oh yeah stitch down farms is wonderful she came in she couldn't deliver to certain farmers markets and places so she came in with buckets upon buckets upon buckets Rita champion from the farm and Kelly called people and came and got them so that was really lovely and nice of Rita to think of us and so yeah just a lot of people outreach and helping neighbors and it's always nice to see so as far as the flood just be patient and we'll get there okay town managers report that we didn't talk about well because we didn't talk about last time we did get some good news about there might be some additional loan forgiveness for 2.8 million dollar loan and if it does it's going to reduce our annual water payment by over sixty six hundred dollars so that's great news I didn't mail tax bills the test warnings got moved of course because of the rain but tax bills are out now if you did not get a state payment or your tax bill says that you got a non resident rate flip your tax bill over there's a number for the tax department we can't help you with that but they can they're the ones who check those magic boxes so and then they'll let us know and we'll issue you a revised tax bill so and then again the town managers office is closed tomorrow the clerk's office is open the court gene is only open until one tomorrow honestly I can't remember her hours but the town manager side will be closed all day tomorrow for staffing issues so and I think that is it you know what else was in there honestly some stuff from select board minutes oh the contribution rate for visas dropped for the town so that's nice nice for us to get out of it nope it's a lifelong commitment apparently once you no literally I asked yeah I asked Jen like if we were visas can we go to Beamer as she said she said you were in you made that choice but years ago it was made so we can't now but what they did is if you make over a certain dollar an hour some people have to pay a higher employee contribution but the overall contribution dropped which I did not expect so you want to do just the minutes for the 10th then yeah this we don't have enough people here right okay unless anybody had anything for the 10th minutes just need a motion to approve those so moved okay one favor all right there was equipment committee notes that were in there anything else to come before the board everybody has I don't know there is an upcoming meeting of the IRAC which is a multi-town group that's looking at some sort of shared resources or shared work and Dave I Dave is the select board rep and I think he's planning to be there meeting this time yeah I didn't ask about it today but I did see that and then I saw Nicole Sear today she dropped off an entire box of stuff for Scott need to pick up and then she brought the plastic you know display thing back and put that in the corner of the office where it was before so she did drop all that stuff off today okay and that's kind of got me thinking about you know with our committees we probably should have as many of the documents that the committees are working on have in house you know honestly we're like a library we check them in check them out but because if it's somebody that has done a lot of work for a considerable period of time then leaves now we're kind of it's up to get those documents yeah so it might be I don't know how we go about doing it or if we request that that information stays at the town and I mean everybody there's a filing cabinet there are people who could put stuff in there I know some people Nicole is obviously very tech savvy she's smart that way so she had a lot of stuff you know that way but you could provide I assume the committees with a thumb drive or something I mean you get all their meeting minutes but if there was some document they were working on you know just the information they've collected over the years oh yeah well we have all that stuff yeah we didn't lose anything there that's all here that's all in the office but um but yeah it's something you could ask them if they have hard to print out copies that's what the health officer does he comes in and files and stuff it's good to have it at the town office in case something does have or somebody's got to have a leave of absence for a while so he's going to take over they could also share amongst their committees or if it's electronic maybe there's some way of sharing electronic files put them on a town server somehow was Nicole the web contact person I think so and she did she did she did your Facebook so that committee needs to re-look at that right she did I don't think you guys had your own web page she just she did your Facebook page so you could just email her directly and ask her about that I know we had the I'm trying to remember what our policy says oh there's a social media policy that says you have one person who's your main contact and that person also had provided us with our username and password but it would be easy for you to just reach out to Nicole and find out what and ask her about it you know if she's still willing to do that Jesse is saying that EIC has everything in Google Docs which is nice I know that's way better connections did everything was in Google Docs so that's handy too okay so that's anything else if you come to the board if not we just have an executive session to go in and discuss the evaluation of Theresa nothing else just need a motion to enter executive session to go over Theresa's evaluation so moved second thanks Ellie