 And we're like, wow, when was the last time we went live with just me and you on an eFap thing? Uh, has that ever been the case? I don't know, uh, maybe I feel like there was a time where I streamed loads of Bloodborne and we, we did, but it was an eFap I guess so I don't know Yeah, it's been a while Who knows what's gonna happen. This is crazy. We're the fucks Rags, we're after Rags. He's having fun. He's doing fun human things Yeah, he's our fun and adventure in the real world, not like us cave goblins Stay here wondering what life is truly like Um, yeah, we'll we'll give it like a few minutes so that People can jump in and I guess I'll slowly explain What we're doing here As we were working on Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania an unbridled misery We in for you would exchange some quirks about the things we'll make in or how certain things couldn't work the way We wanted them to and ended up a different way or How you know, uh, the the script ballooned and the video balloon and stuff We're just like all this stuff is probably stuff people wouldn't mind listening to but we'll never ever be able to know about Like maybe maybe there's a way to subvert that Maybe there's a way to make a thing where they we can talk about it while checking it out And so I figure yeah, this is a small quick Super different special idea We'll see how it goes If you guys like it, we can do it for each of the huge projects if If you've mostly find it to be something you figured anyway and don't find it that interesting Then we can just you know, not do it again. You know, he's pretty straightforward plan Is to essentially play the video and then pause and talk about Why it was made the way it was made Yes, it was like a Commentary or making of just general discussion about the process Pretty much especially because a lot of people like why aren't you working and then when it comes out They're like good. He worked for a week and he's gone back to not working How If happen your own videos technically yes The six hour mini at least then I don't know how long this will be we'll see In fact a six hour mini for a six hour video With no talking I guess pretty sure there's a 20 hour mini out there. So we're not breaking any rules. Okay Yeah, like at this point efat mini is a misnomer Yeah, it's just that's the name we went with because the first mini. I think was three minutes or something Yeah, because that was uh, that was for the Aladdin trailer, right? Yeah, so Not so many anymore No, it's a bull No, I was about to say like I guess they're still mini relative to efat episodes and then I realized no, not really Like they're not this will be longer than plenty of efat episodes Yes Also First messages came as a molar I've been watching buffy And I finally saw the body and man the fields didn't expect Anya to have that reaction got me good Rags isn't here. So we can actually mention buffy. How's that? Great Your reaction is the most Effective I get in that whole episode maybe drawing with buffies in the initial bit because that's Just phenomenal. That was pretty excellent performance. Yeah. Um, I mean it's that episode is It feels like we sort of run the gambit with every run the get fuck me run the gambit with every uh Every reaction that we get from the characters. It's like we get distinct reactions to this event from Every single person in the story. Yeah Which uh, obviously feels very deliberate because everything about that episode feels deliberate Um So anyway, I guess we should get started right I get I suppose It's uh a few minutes in I'm sure there's some people here already This'll get re-uploaded on the old uh moola channel. Anyway, so hello future people future vaude watches Uh, this is the third installment in all right calm down video. Jeez We're done without my approval Here it is. Oh wait, I haven't saw a chat yet. I get you. I bet you're all terrified of the fact that on the screen Remember like what the fuck's going on? I'm sorry There's so many things to set up okay In fact, there's a chat cover on there because it usually says disabled I wish it wouldn't just because it's not plugged in properly. It just says that so If we record offline just looks ugly as fuck, you know Right, right But that's all good Uh, there it is and look at you all and so is that all right Beautiful All right. Well, I mean it starts with this clip of michael douglas, which by the way, I'm pretty sure I saw Incredibly early in the process like before I'd even started writing the script and I saved this clip because I thought it was funny as fuck I think this one was just going around. Yeah, like I was like, how could how could I not open the video with this? um, yeah, which uh, this opening minute or so is you did this Yes, um in the because I was about to say this kind of goes the same for most of my videos I always want a clip To open that sort of just would this would be considered a cold open. I guess I don't know Like it's it's just a clip that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what I'm about to do But that uh sets a tone in quite a way and What what a hilarious comment to make in the same like funny if there was a marvel's video to ever be made the clip I feel that has to be the beginning is that one where she's asked if she's coming back as captain marvel And then she says does anyone want me to Like that would have to be the beginning These these quotes that just sort of opened up with a tone center of oh man People don't people are really enjoying like doing this anymore. Are they yeah making this films Become a joke to the point where like I've said as long as I could die It's like a fucking hell. Yeah And uh, yeah, just just a great way to which um, I mean something that was talked about in the video But Hank probably should have died in this film. This would have been the one to do it. Yeah um, there's a lot of it's it this film doesn't want to commit to anything because I mean it's We'll get to it at some point But it was really really really really obvious that scott was either gonna die or get trapped in the quantum room for some time But they they didn't want to Because I guess they figured that it would be better to tell a story that is mostly without consequence Well, even like crashes a little spaceship and they have janet being like, oh no Hank It's like he's fine. He's on the floor. No, he's chill. He's all he's all good I wonder if that was even michael douglas probably not right probably start double on the floor Uh Might have been. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know These these films are just like patched together You sometimes wonder if they were even all on set like at the same time for a lot of these scenes Yeah, and the franchise if they did a fourth, would you come back? As long as I could die All right, it's rewind time Yeah, so the idea with this is just gonna be I was like, what do I begin this video? Do I just jump right in? I was like, I feel like since I skipped out on a lot of MCU projects in the course of phase four That it feels like it's worth just doing a summary to remind everybody of what the fuck happened, you know It's like what was that and then of course is just a sprinkling of phase five stuff in there like a secret invasion There's more so a big collection of just Jesus This is and you know the bigger chunk goes to wander vision not just because it's the first one, but uh because it's like the Like the one time where it felt like we could be okay the first few episodes like And it's just fun to play with the the visuals the editing Yeah And then of course, uh, what I stole from it was is this really happening. It's like, yeah, that's that's how I feel about The whole the MCU is a thing. It's crazy. Like is this really what happened? It's like, yeah, that's the timeline we ended up with And that's of course me feigning a I don't know some kind of american announcer guy And talking about like to help you know settle in like the wonders to come of phase four I love that one as well the uh, because I didn't even watch talk I but I've seen the scene where kingpin gets Whatever the hell we're supposed to believe happened to him. I guess killed but Like that visual is a gunshot. It's just like a you know a landscape or whatever It was cityscape whatever the fucking call it a bunch of buildings. It's just funny that if you've seen it, you know And now that one's the hardest to make out, but it's probably the most important it's taylo saying, uh Don't rewrite history Which is representative, I would say of all the phase four. It's just a complete rewrite You go from an ass to a dad like the whole thing it's just ass And then ending on pathetic Yeah Oh, uh, did this last time with multivisor madness Um It was just taken in an exit for the end of the previous long video about the subjects just to see how it compares with where We are now sort of thing Yeah, honeymoon phase people experience with these failures is getting shorter and shorter critical thinking does eventually start up Especially when the returns for the lizard brain get less and genuinely it's not even like an insult It's it's the a lot of people are just Either to not to do the mean but asking more questions with more things that come out For example with rhodi, right people like wait, but if rhodi was that then then that wasn't rhodi an end game That wasn't rhodi with It's like you don't need to ask those questions, but more and more people do with the more that you piss them off Exactly there's I mean it's it's kind of like a loss of confidence in I feel like people can see stuff that is bizarre and questionable But they will be able to go along with it so long as they I guess have faith in where it's going But when you have like 20 projects that are pretty bad At some point you start losing faith It's like They have any idea what they're doing or they're building up to anything meaningful that they're not just screwing around and ruining everything Less effective over time leading to less and less praise for these fuck ups as time seems to go on This recent set of adventures has provided an extensive pungent level of cancer for all of us I mean it's phase four. I think anybody would be forgiven for thinking it's like, so he's done a love and thunder video I was like no actually, but It was very relevant to the uh the last video because yeah, I thought that uh The the dr. Strange video came out after thought by like a month or so Yeah Something the mouse must be reaching some level of awareness on and it just seems as a trilogy almost Quantum mania love and thunder and uh Multivus amandas are a great selection to show you just how fucking terrible everything is they are the worst Absolute goal. Could we look more incompetent? Worst day of my life this clip is from the tv show about oj on netflix um I feel it was cold But it's really good A lot of there's a great cast Really well told in terms of uh accuracy from what I gather as well as just being an entertaining story I recommend it and when I hit him say if we would have If it was our absolute goal, could we look more incompetent? I was like, oh my god, it's disney Look at how Yeah, folks folks It'll only be a set of complete commercial failures that have disney reevaluate their approach So until then Um, yeah, that that came about real quick, didn't it? Yeah, man, and of course, uh, Every all eyes are on marbles now to see if that flops Um, yeah, because I don't know that guardians is useful as a metric No, uh, for like long term and of course with every dc film this year failing catastrophically Just the general, you know, superheroes. Hmm. How are they doing right now? That's a gentleman. Is this live or a premiere? This is live. Hello Though I could have just recorded myself reading that out and saying that who knows, right? And then the wasp quantumania opens with a wonderful view of the quantum realm Remember that the way I always want to start these is to try and be a little bit somewhat happy and neutral Just take the film for what it is And uh, you can see it with the doc strange one as well It's like even with the errors that start popping up even earlier on it's like, yeah, it's all right We're doing fine still Present was though you're realizing in real time how bad it is Yeah, which I think is more fun and it like I said, it does Give a sense of you know trying to take it for what it is, but there's just a limit There's only so many things you can get wrong before it's like, okay. This is fucked It's not well It's looking a little different than the many times we've seen it previously and we're gonna talk about that soon enough For now, let's just appreciate having catwoman for company. Here she is drinking some quantum water I guess that's their attempt at showing how she survived and that Right, there is an example of these the visuals now the vast majority of the visuals are gonna see you're all fringies Um, uh, yeah, because I think they're exclusively mine for the the next like three hours But the uh, just that one for example where it's like quantum water You could just show the water you could zoom into the water but I was like, I think I'm gonna want to overlay fry doing his uh suspicious face Just to really Push home exactly what I'm trying. I'm like that doesn't hmm Vived here, but how would water at this size still be you know, and and what does she eat? Who doesn't appreciate that? I uh, I remember that when I put that in I was asking like You reckon to do worthwhile to have like a luke visual this early on in the uh in the video It always especially because like uh It's funny that the first what the fuck it's like Almost sacred in any of these videos in some way for just in reference to these videos But that shot of him just doing that I think is disconnected enough and it's just funny because Gives you an implication of what we're asking is this thought there toxic and how to particles You know what it doesn't matter we can wait on talking about that one Oh dear there seems to be an unidentified falling object in the sky It's time for janet van dyne to spring into action making sure to grab her holster Wait you have a gun why would you keep the gun there yep really odd it looked like it was her bed or something Yeah, like why wouldn't the gun just be on the shelf with the holster? I guess I don't know This doesn't look like she already have to accept that I guess there is like manufactured equipment in the quantum room The one thought I had was maybe she repurposed her blaster on her arm into a gun But the thing is she still has them so Yeah And besides that's that's some that is that it's just why would you do it? Why would you why would you repurpose that instead of just having it the way that it is you know? Um, and yeah, uh, there's nobody she she said that she never met anybody here. So why is she hiding the gun? Like making sure it's undercover. It's like who's what's what's the concern? I don't know and it just seems like um, I don't know that's that's what people do a gun sometimes they put it like Places like that. He's like, okay And you might be like, well, it's a bit nitpicky of it. It's like whatever We're early on it's fine. We're gonna get to the biggest stuff eventually. No time for that exactly Don we go she discovers the crash site and suddenly this happens Oh my goodness What a terrifying quantum weird player that's damn that's splitting into two now Gosh, what an unlucky and wacky situation Probably should have kept that camo on a instead of taking it off right in front of her May have given you an edge, but that's fine a fight ensues her first sci-fi blasts missing And the way they portray this is it seems like this is her first encounter with this of any kind ever Like she she she's not she seems not sure about it and surprised. It's just like are these not common. I don't know Both targets because they go invisible before she hits them But wait if they're only going invisible doesn't it still hit? Yeah, I guess they can teleport Yeah, that was I don't know what's going on there exactly Oh There goes number one, but the second one got the jump all right. That's the first instance reference Yeah, it almost feels like we should have a counter See how many there are exactly but we can try and keep it up, but you know I mean, I could I guess I could just pull up a Word document and like This one definitely has the most tips and references of all the videos I've made That might be that might be over a hundred Happen next Wow, lucky the gun fell right next to this guy and he was coherent enough to aim and shoot that thing off you after crashing Which I seriously think by the way as stretches of things nobody's thinking about most people just be like whatever It's opening thing action scene. I don't know he landed. He's fine. I was like, okay Not much work was done to make any of that work, but fine. Kang is here now. We've gone a whole bunch of different ways Also, that's Kang. We know him from the hit television series Loki What are the Yes, and all that I take from it in future is just him getting nutted over and over and over again for some reason It's insane odds of him being here you ask. Well, we'll find out later What is this place? This is phase five my friend many believe it will be better than phase four. Why don't we see if that's true It's so funny that arbitrary break between phases that some people were like, you know, they can they can take criticism from four and five It'll be much more strong. Oh arbitrary. Yeah, I mean this one's meant to be part of phase four It doesn't even matter if you call it something different if the way that you make all of the projects is the same It was funny, uh Stephen Richter said lucky speaks english. Lucky's humanoid. It's like you could say that for basically everything at this point in this universe It's like it's crazy that the quantum realm required the torquey liquid Because all of the aliens in this world seem to just speak english I guess you just have to I don't know head canon that they've all got like some universal translator or something. Yeah Which I think was mentioned when they scan Peter and guardians one There's a little thing that says translator or something I'm pretty, you know, I mean if you want to get real nitpicky everybody's lip thinking should be off Well, and of course all the people in the fucking endgame talked to the guardians. So like that's right. I don't think everyone has translators Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, it's over San Francisco not off to a good not as many south park references But they're they're in there plenty still plenty of good amount. The thing is the simpsons is just incredibly versatile It's not just because I love that show. It's partially because of that but the simpsons is just Like you could it's it's it's useful in so many contexts With the number of episodes how many things get, you know, what all of the visual gags and everything It's super super versatile. Yeah, you can you can find a simpsons reference for More or less anything basically everything any case when christening the launch of this next era You may think that every opening line and visual will be indicative of what's to come now Kang has already I don't actually know how many creators think about things that way But it was fascinating to have it be like where am I and then my life doesn't make it He said it's just like fuck me. Uh, yeah, because I mean, it's true the opening in particularly well crafted films even the opening shot Yeah, there's something to be gleamed from it, but um A lot of a lot of the decisions here are not very uh I don't know. I don't know if you could say that many of them are very purposeful What is this so we've got the perfect setup despite bearing witness to the fecal capital of america I'm waiting for some kind of signal as to what I'm in for with the glorious phase five My life doesn't really make sense Ah, you have the lyrics welcome back Combined with my life doesn't really make sense that border between phases is already looking pretty I'm pretty happy about the adventure the good one. Yeah, the the I don't even know what that room is called But it was a funny joke of itself anyway. Yeah Why are you time traveling with captain america? That doesn't make sense You're goddamn right that didn't make any sense that entire the thing is you can tell they're appealing to just You know people with swords made of light people traveling through space. Well, that doesn't make any sense Like oh, yeah, which is like. Yeah, cool guys. Thanks bro. Can you try harder? Yeah, just a little bit story is filled with things that make no sense scott and I don't think it's going to be Wild What's next where does the ride take you? All right, this is feeling really meta at this point Where does scott lango next and I actually think that the initial first early super drafts of this film They probably were thinking that what the hell do we do with scott? What is he's done, which um He's not no. He's not at all That's a conclusion. I mean the film ends. I thought he was Done right or yeah, those people as we said I think on that stream that um Iron man could be mistaken for being completely done Right, it's like he's if he survived the snaps like what do you do with him there? It's like it's like a million stories we can tell we don't have to we don't have to end And you know scott like there's so many things to do with his daughter Why would you why would you ruin it by making him shit? Why why'd you do that? Also, by the way, I've noticed that uh the video on the stream it looks like it's like pretty low fps Uh, I can't do anything about that. Unfortunately. Oh, okay. All right. Well, then just well suck you guys in. All right, let's keep going. Sorry And where does the mcu go next maybe we'll be getting something a little bit different. Thank you spider man Hey, that's that's even kind of funny. Not sure my god works with second reference Yeah, that's number two. I'm pretty sure people would shout a keep and count. So I don't have to We'll rely on you guys, okay When ant man would be way more famous than spider man in this universe being the guy who jump started saving trillions of lives Yeah snap, but obviously spider man is more It's just true People have even pointed out as well. It's like the difference between new york and san francisco. Surely that should matter too This ant man is san francisco's hero Uh, also i'm pretty yeah, there's another one that i'm pretty happy with. Yeah, so let's make time for the stuff that really matters Like friends. Holy wow, they even paid off this line from ant man and the wasp Did you want to grab dinner or something? I mean because i'm free Yeah, come on. See by the way, I like it when they pay off stuff like that in movies But also prefer that they pay off a lot more than that Not just that this one is just fascinating though, isn't it that you paid off like a really small throwaway line An ant man and the wasp yet it seems that you don't even remember what happened in the first two movies that was of consequence Absolutely nuts Because it the only way it could happen is if they rewatched it or really just remembered that for some reason They were like, yeah, I really want to get that dinner between those two of the opener. Gotta do it Here's the guys this could be the tin around maybe they watched the previous films this time Maybe they care to tell a story maybe they'll even have meta lines regarding the state of the mcu Combined with some level of an apology for the shoveled garbage Who knows we'll be able to resist that if I had a script in like a newer mcu thing I'd want one characters apologizing for shit to do with you like tried writing around to be like look They look at the camera like i'm sorry We're sorry. Sorry I wonder what hope's doing. She's using the pimp particle for global change Reforestation affordable housing food production Whoa pump the brakes there movie. What do you mean the food production and this is insane by the way as a development Oh, they're using the pimp particles like in a public sort of sense in a way that people Easily get their hands on it and figure out how it works It's just so many other questions that won't be answered and I think that any normal writer would have just been like this makes sense Doesn't it as a development? Like do you do you remember the first one at all? Do you remember how resistant hank was to anybody getting their hands on it? And then there's just a world building if it's being used for global change like reforestation and housing and everything I mean that solves a lot of problems, right? You just build miniature homes scale them up into massive homes And like they somehow maintain their properties. So like that I mean we saw it in the in uh, and man in the wasp right They made a mini house made a big house and it seems to be fine Like it's it's sturdy. It stands. It's not like it's gonna collapse or anything And if that's the case, it's like wow you guys have single-handedly solved like housing as just a thing And of course will grow the the pizza. It's like wow you guys have just solved world hunger Reforest how wait, but hang on wasn't the whole thing with the PIM particle that we couldn't let it get out to the whole world That are the people like cross or goliath or and this is another thing about the structure of the video, right? It's like this is presented as though. I don't know fully in detail all of the arguments related to Hank of course I do and that's more so safe for a section This is like planting the seed being like, uh could I could have sworn? This was not the way it should be because I want it flagged up But I also this isn't going to be the time to talk about it. You know, there was way more references to collect What a impious mind. Yeah The other scientists dude from the second movie couldn't be trusted that they tried to replicate it and had horrifying results at times Hank and hope were almost taken down by the police in the second movie. They had to break out Our hank hope and janet all just public in their business now has PIM tech But the blip has just reset everything to the point where nobody even knows what to take forward from previous films anymore It seems that way. Um, it is really really really worth emphasizing how much damage endgame did Yeah Like that was a difficult thing to work with anyway. Um but obviously very Very lacking efforts have been made to try and incorporate the blip Into our subsequent stories at this point. It's basically being forgotten when it would be the most significant thing It's another thing They didn't bank on we never got to hear what hank had to say about what stark did considering he said You know iron man is like a cute toy and that he never wants technology going to the starks because of what they would do Yeah, because he nothing like the he knew how would personally Uh, so interesting. Yeah to to have known iron man with the suit saved the whole universe Like that's got to be worth a lot and hank we never could see him comment on it Family, you know the whole universe including him his wife and his daughter Uh, there's there's obviously a scene and and that could again tie into that rewrite where he does die that he was inspired by tony as well Uh, recognizing something about him The all these opportunities look all gone. They're right there Been utilized across several industries as it combed up with stark wakandan as guardian and well cosmic tech Does hank care does anyone care? It is incredibly dangerous. Wasn't that the whole Are we gonna get any accounting for any of this none of this should have happened But it did are you are you serious that line is absolute curse on the film It shouldn't have happened, but it did we talking about phase four here or the whole damn thing Well, I'd be there when the avengers need me absolutely. I'd never turn my back on that Scott you're uh, you're resting on your laurels even though you will accept the call to adventure whenever that comes up Jerk Yep, right now the only job I want is being a dad Well, hey, that's pretty cool Sounds like there's a chance here that will finally get a paid down to the core character driven It could have honestly it could have been a 10 million dollar movie grab The pull rods michael douglas You don't even need hope or janet Yes, we talk about this, but I don't think it's ever ever been a thing that's been entertained at marvel How about we make like a Marvel movie that doesn't have like a big bad guy that they got a fight Like what if it was just a film that's set in the marvel universe and it's just characters You know talking to each other and like it's it's all it's only about their dynamics No superhero stuff and they'd probably be like what are you talking about? We're superhero movies That's the only thing that you can do It's crazy because uh, I think they'd be scared that the audience would feel betrayed right if you had a movie That's all about him dealing with the aftermath of saving the universe. There's no action scenes in it Maybe they would Maybe they'd be like what are the audience going to do the revolt they go in They they're expecting something for that bad. It's like yeah, but imagine though We're good One movie you just did one really good and you advertise as such You say this is a very different kind of superhero film. This is about a superhero who's done his job The fight is over. What happens next? And I mean at this point it Like even if even if they weren't interested in the creative merits of doing that Maybe maybe they should consider not spending 200 million dollars on every single film that they make Maybe they should pray Going for smaller budget films that don't need to make as much money to succeed Because even if you made that super paired back no superhero action like ant-man movie You probably still would make like 50 hundred million dollars. I would think so. Yeah If you paid just for him Michael Douglas, maybe Michelle Pfeiffer and you focus on the house And like the town as a set the city rather like a few few places I'm trying to think of what else you might need and you know Surely you don't need to spend any more than 20 million Um, yeah, you'd think so and then uh, you're gonna hit like 100 million probably no matter what Exactly and then just write it really compellingly And you know, we could we can always just kill Hank by a heart attack or something It's been tragic like that. There's always happened. Yeah I mean imagine if it was something that was not related to superheroes. It was it was just a real world thing Be really straightforward and to be honest with you the mc doesn't really do that that much Um, no eggy's death wasn't really important and that was a natural causes one Yeah It's been a while and man, that would be a wise way to kick off the new phase Right now the only job I want is being a dad. I love you Cassie Thanks for being my hero feels a little more like the first ant man Understanding scott lang thief turned hero focusing on how to be the best father he can be and this is the thing What the film mentor was talking about is like he doesn't need to be a thief now. He's moved past that That's not right necessarily like an intrinsic part of an ant man film an ant man film can change See how it goes make mistakes Take chances There's always why did they show us everyone getting inspired and then tell us this is all worthless It's so weird. I it seems like they don't realize what they've created here He's written an inspirational book about how we save the universe and how everybody has the To be a hero in their own lives It's it's so offensive. Yeah phase Room to grow. You know what? I think that's pretty neat You get a decent bit of confusion in terms of just what chances we should be taking when scott has done some morally questionable Yeah, this is like, you know really digging into the message But ultimately these are the kinds of things that we take broadly and we're like, yeah, I get it take some risks You know don't don't live your life in a cave that sort of thing things that have led to bigger and better things But dude, what a normal and fair bit of simple advice to give to people who can sometimes miss out through fear Apprehension or misjudgment on what a situation could truly mean Makes a bit of sense that he would pop that in his book as it's reflective of his life And it even references his power though. Is scott lang the kind of character who would write a book about his life? Well, I imagine it's quite the incredible story to tell and it might just inspire And now we know that this has happened because hulk and hawkeye told him to do it Apparently, which it's a real awkward Yep, considering they all seem to be criticizing him in this movie based on the fact that he chose to write the book But now it turns out he was asked to write it as a you know, a record of what happened So even more selfless than it was already Good job guys There's some people along the way maybe falcon could have figured that one out and made some And yeah, when you have that as well, if the event just don't pay then yeah I guess he probably doesn't need to write a book. What's insane too is that he has an incredible insight that most people don't He was with the uh vigilante avengers for years He was that's right imagine being able to talk about that and then caps life like what I just You could make so much money. You don't even need to write a book go on the interview shows Is we've talked about before so stupid You've got to do no Sorry, that's me. Uh, no south park fun fact, by the way, I didn't know That that uh, I didn't know that that line was from star trek What line now? Him screaming. No, that's Picard Oh star trek movies. You know that the line must be drawn here scene. Yeah, that's Picard But they use that in the south park episode Yeah, so instead of instead of randy smashing his head through the glass it was like Picard threw something through some glass If I didn't know that I just remember that I just remembered randy screaming no at the top of his lungs Which uh, I thought was funny. So I decided to throw it in there Yeah, people saying first contact is apparently where it's from. All right. No So it turns out cassie lang scott's daughter the little girl from the first and Oh She's gone forever now second movie not only aged about 10 years more than the character she's playing She's been recast and thrown in jail. I understand that's a lot to take in and before we talk about the story It's probably worth mentioning that the actress playing cassie in endgame emma firman has indeed been replaced And she discovered it the same way we all did through social media announcements You stay classy disney as for his story. She only had one scene. She was the better actress One significant senior you see her in another it was a demanding scene and she was performed really well And then they replaced her with somebody who's not very good at acting this it captures the whole fucking craft Doesn't it you have to come on to this set and you have to pretend this guy is a guy You haven't he's your dad and you haven't seen him in five years and you thought he was dead go like Okay, Jesus, okay And she did it and she did it well. Yes, we'll have to wait for more information. Is she okay? Have you heard anything not yet? Oh, no, what did you do to her hair? It's like she lost a fight with a hairdresser when the hairdresser was doing her hair What what does every joke have to be creative cassie? What happened which in and of itself could be argued as a creative joke Look at that. Look at the meta the layers Oh, you know Jail stuff we have indeed discovered that cassie is in jail because she got involved in a peaceful protest That was being displaced by tear gas more on that in a sec. I did find this though No, no, no, no. It's so funny because it's meant to be like ha ha look what she did to the car But they'd be like arrest her Now It doesn't work at all No, no, no, she she didn't because if she did oh, no, you shrank a cop car Who are you thinking what was I supposed to do look the other way? They were clearing out a homeless camp in the middle of the night. I think it was as jay pointed out if the shrink and grow tech is as You know proliferate as we think it is and I guess they just took it to the back of the police station and grew it up With their own police grow tech. I don't know permanently destroyed Yeah, it's You know cause costs like $30,000. I think it's legal issue with destroying cop cars Yeah, what the destroying a cop car would help the homeless maintain their camp and what I assume is grounds They are illegally fucking with did they still have education after the snap and didn't they Hope is in charge of The butterfly Of humanitarian efforts including affordable housing. She should be Shitting all over hope. She should be a hope You fucking loser look at you with all your helpful efforts. You're not even looking after the ones at home You know so to speak Why didn't you speak to hear about it get a useful and possibly permanent solution for those people We run every viable model through the computer and it looks like there just are no easy solutions to this recession Have you tried kill all the poor the computer says it wouldn't help so we're not doing it That's why we're not doing it. I didn't realize it's only cold-hearted pragmatism It's keeping you from pumping gas into little little a famously cheap place to purchase supermarket items from in Europe Don't if you have them in australia No Because when you start talking about it like it was Woolworth's that's just like oh, okay. I guess that's one of this Pumping gas into little it's just fucking funny is a thing to say but also uh Yeah, this is from that mitchell and web look it's a show they ran I think for three years I fully recommend it a lot of great, uh jokes in there is um There's this one that's like presented as a documentary. You know, it's like you you Do a show about like a person who's living with some kind of disability or crazy difference And that's a day in the life of this person like with interviews and they treat it really seriously This intro to this skit. They're like, uh, this man's name is Jeremy and he lives with 17 penises It's just Really carefully And he's just it's just David Mitchell. He's like, yeah, it's difficult Oh, hey use pimp tech make a tiny house huge or whatever that shouldn't have shown this. Yeah, I know it's It's just He's ruined everything You've permanently solved housing. Yep days, but the weird thing is that hope isn't chastising cassie for this too She's oddly silent when she's not allowed to have character. Why not in this film. She isn't no Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is much worse than which is particularly painful when you see those clips from Eventually and lily talking about how she needs to reinvent hope every time she gets a new movie Like she needs to figure her out and it's like, yeah, it's because they didn't have a three You know how they treat in scott. We're like, where do we take scott next? I don't think they've ever asked that question about hope. She's like an extension of scott Which is really awkward when they went out of their way to name an ant man on the wasp to Be equal the irony is she's the most unique as a character in the movie that doesn't have her name attached to it Uh, yeah, she well, it's it is strange, isn't it? Why why do we it's it's like we've accepted that there's nothing we can do with that character Uh, she in ant man one is almost an antagonist at one point like she's Very much invested in the same goal, but she has different methods and she doesn't agree with her dad And that that's a whole thing they got to solve in the second one. She's the dad's foot soldier Um and wants to see her mum again And they talk about the civil war stuff and then in this one as they admitted they had nothing for her I don't know. She's just around. It's really a shame She's character. He's supposed to treat her as such. It's kind of insane Realized why wasn't cassie arrested for the destruction of that car at least until it's restored, of course Why isn't her stepfather the guy who chose to put his life at risk for hers? He this would be a good example of how the video gets made. Uh, the original line there was father-in-law Because I I'm I'm to this day mixed up on exactly the difference or at least uh I'll use them interchangeably but father-in-law stepfather's mother-in-law people-in-law versus step people And uh, it doesn't get caught by me and fun enough it probably wouldn't I don't think rags was sure about it either, right? Uh, I'm not sure but I remember I was just listening to it. It was like no stepfather And so it has to be noted and then when I do pickups for just You know lines that don't come out as well or lines. We can hear shit in the background or just flubs in general or Words that I've used just incorrectly. I uh catch them all with timestamps and then redo them all and the difficult Difficult part is that if I deliver a line like this and then I deliver the pickups like that It becomes really obvious and it's like you've got to Listen back to it and then try the best thing and this is annoying to a lot of people is having a microphone setup That gives you feedback into your ears straight away. You can hear your own voice Um, a lot of people don't have that do have that but it helps to direct sounding like you did and the funny thing is The ds2 videos particularly there is this one time where I rerecorded a whole section because I uh It like it like had background noise But I was ill and this was when I definitively learned I will never do that again because it it goes from like sounding exactly like this to like This is like in the middle of it and I was like, why did I let that go? It's just difficult because They could just sound different even even if you feel like you don't know exactly the same way You're the same distance from the microphone same Recording environment and everything it can just sound different And and fuck uh, it can you can get away with it with a lot of the audience But when you notice it it can be like oh, I'm so annoying to listen to you like I should probably redo that Yeah, he is a cop he gets the alert when his family are taken in we saw that in the first ant man But this concerns him. Yeah, he was completely forgotten Much like a lot of things. Even though he was a big role in the first movie Not nearly as big a role in the second movie Stepdaughter I imagine he would have a lot to say about her shrinking a cop car speaking of which What the no no no not yet. It's okay. Why can Cassie shrink a cop car? Does she have not cringe enough yet? Why isn't this a shock? I promised your mom that you would only use this stuff when one of us was around I already hate that I think I would have taken the direction that he would have been hyper protective of her Like it just makes a lot of sense considering that he'd lost five years of his life with her You know one Janet got lost and all this shit that happens in this universe Tony just died like it's it's just No, I don't want you to be a fucking and that was the story to tell right or at least one of them I don't want you to be a hero. I don't want you to be and and she's like what the fuck It's like surely you you want to inspire everyone too. It's like that's Yes, yeah, maybe everybody else but not yeah, and that's conflict easy conflict Exactly. You've you've spent your whole life inspiring me and now you don't want me to do it It's like Like there's an easy parallel when hope You could you could easily say that hope was inspired to get into all of the ant-man tech stuff because of her mom and dad And then it's like a parallel between her and uh, cassie They're both the daughters of you know an ant man who wanted to follow in their footsteps You can already picture the scene where he's arguing with cassie and then it you know She stomps out and then Hank walks in he's like, you know Hope the longest time and then just explains the parallel and then scots like yeah, I get it, but like you know Cassie's not hope She's not ready. You know that sort of stuff Yeah, it's so unfair because it's so easy and obvious No, that's what was played out. It's better than nothing at all Every trope is played out when it comes to character conflict with story Intellect and this by the way that mindset is what gets us stuff like quantum mania where it's like We've never done this before. It's like, yeah, maybe there's a reason for that It's dangerous tech. I know it's dangerous. You're goddamn right. It's dangerous. It took Hank's wife from him It began an arms race that would have seen cataclysmic war worldwide If not for detonating the very building the research took place in handing it off to a teenager So she can destroy police property It's all been rushed through because we need to get her into the ant suit doing ant man things because Yep, I haven't considered much of anything about it. He is probably not wise. What if the cops took it from you? What if you lost it? I didn't lose the suit. You have a suit? She has a suit? Why the fuck? No way would he ever? Very good choice of visuals The the uh, the tony looking up along with uh, dr. Strange's cape who's just like, ah, it's perfect It is. Yeah, but I mean if it's not something you guys have noticed as well The idea is if you use a reaction, you don't use it again We try There is two sets of reactions ones that are meant for any like a like what the fuck for example or Time being referenced or being Baffled I have a couple from the father. I like to consistently use a obi one You'll see popping up with his pointing around in the star system a lot Um, but then there are ones that are more The wrong word would be generic But the reason I'm using it because I can't think of anything right now We're we're like that one's gone in it served its purpose now. We'll try not using that again Um, so it keeps the video lively, which is unusual in this I would argue sector of youtube for the film review that uses reaction imagery. They don't tend to not uh, repeat Yes It can be challenging because there are some that are really good and you'd like to use a lot of times But if you're trying to use new ones every single time, it means that the longer that the project goes on Yeah, the more you have to strain to figure out what kind of reactions you can use and um Because people point out it's like, yeah angry tywin tywin's laugh. I usually try and get once in every video at least I love it the uh, I go such a dismissive like what a fuck up sort of thing But uh, yeah, it makes it very dynamic, which is obviously the goal the risk that the guy hesitates to give it to anyone He gave it to scott because he considered him expendable He allowed hope to have the suit after years of understanding the tech and sharing his protective attitude on top of conducting missions They needed to complete to save janet. Cassie has no idea what she's doing She would have no familiarity with the mission or the sensitivity of the tech and again It seems like a missed opportunity. Why you could have had it so the hank was like cassie. I don't even know who you are like I appreciate that you're interested in your father's work and my work, but This has nothing to do with you. Like that could be conflict And she's clearly almost the story is right there She's like I love heroes heroics great helping people and then something horrible happens because she gets too far into it too quick Lost it to basic law enforcement, which would drive hank nuts. How in the world do we justify this insanity? I know how to take care of yourself. Good old few trauma. Pretty good at it by now Ouch God this such a bad set of intro lines for cassie. Wow your dad was It took me a while to figure out what visual I wanted for that one And then I I remembered in the time for those who remember that scene the emotion is the same The the like yeah, what why would you say that? It's a great face, but it took it took a little while to to figure out what to use there Prison for trying to get money back to people it was stolen from to then miss five years of your life because a Giant purple space monster killed his family while he was trapped in the quantum realm Which he undid as no small feat and you're bitching to him about not being there for you An interesting choice when he has recently very publicly made it clear that his mission statement is to be there for you Man, you're making me love this new character real quick and the thing is you wouldn't know any better It's not even sure they're clear that she understands that there is a book or what it's about or what it's done like He seems to just shut on him for the fact that he wrote a book Yeah, that's lame. You wrote a book Like she doesn't even know what the book's about. It seems that way anyway Or like I guess she's cynical about any like inspirational book any self-help book ever Quick she's great Look, I didn't mean it like that. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's all right. Well, at least she apologized Though it is rather worrying that she actually holds resentment for scott over the history of their relationship And that's got to be the right as being like, okay, we can't actually blame him Owl in the world. Can you blame him? He got stuck there doing superhero stuff that was unrelated He was just really really really unlucky But also simultaneously incredibly lucky remarkably lucky astoundingly lucky endgame doesn't happen If he didn't if he didn't get trapped in there for like the 10 seconds He guys endgame is really bad. Yes. There's a video about that Yeah Is what we know about his absences and so this is killing her likeability Thankfully, this is the beginning and I'm sure there's plenty more of her being fun reasonable and likeable throughout Oh and has hope got anything to say about all of this She spends the scene where her future husband and stepdaughter are arguing about going to jails staring at her phone But she does indeed if I can't imagine how she didn't Herself like the actress think to say like would I be looking at my phone when they're saying all this? I don't know Yeah, but I don't know. What did they say to her? It's like, yeah Anyway, move it on That's it. You would really get involved. I'm telling you what to do. I'm just telling you what to do telling me exactly Scott is desperately trying to guide his daughter away from the same life of crime that destroyed his prospect So much potential there but never brought up X and almost ended the relationship He had with his family like we should this should be the first time we see him actually angry We don't we don't see scott angry basically ever In fact, uh, I struggle to imagine scott doing or rather poll rods doing a very serious angry person. Yeah Yeah And it would be cool to have You know hope interject and be like listen. She's made some of these just like just don't just stay out of it This has nothing to do with you like that sort of thing. Yeah, it'd be really nice to see Never mind Meanwhile, this gas-brained hobbit head plank of garbage is actively siding with the troubled child This is especially bizarre considering hope's awareness of the world clamping down on pimp tech And what it would mean for the future. Cassie almost lost his suit and the tech to the police You don't seem to be acting very much in character. Hope. How about some music? Are you listening to your own book? But I was ready for it. No, that's uh Scott lang possibly one of the mcu's least egotist least egotistical least selfish characters Motivated almost to leave by the love of his family and the caring of others Listening to himself talk awesome. Let's move on a oh, it's hank and janet's house Moller are you watching your own video? Yes Yes, um, it's worth emphasizing again scott might be he is like one of the least egotistical characters in the mcu He is like astoundingly humble the only person who's going to beat him out at this point is someone like fucking veb Almost impossible because he just he just doesn't give a fuck you could argue that like because cap will like if cap believes that He's right. He will like steadfastly maintain those principles even in the face of like staunch opposition Yeah If it was like scott would be the kind of person be like, well, no, we you know, we can have a chat about it You know i'm open to hearing your perspective at every day like he's so chill He's the chillest least egotistical character and they've decided to make him the one with the ego problem What about drax well Didn't he say i'm i'm extraordinarily humble Yeah, and yeah, that's right. He is extraordinarily humble and he's very literal so he must be he must be telling the truth I mean he believes that he's humble. That's for sure. Yeah Uh Also said you could argue that he's uh listening to it ahead of the reading That would be fine, but the movie doesn't agree No, the movie's saying that he is because remember later on he he mentions again that he wrote a book about all of his adventures And yeah, that was looking like oh wow. Yeah, look at him talking about his stupid book again Yeah, that's the one that seals it that that is cassey being like how awkward is it that his narcissism is getting in the way of Us explaining to these creatures that we're you know, we're fine. We're good. It's like that's that wouldn't happen, but okay Drax is extraordinarily humble true. Let's see what they rank and janet's house. Let's see what they're up to You know bill prizes in the mail it better be it may it should be. Yeah, they even acknowledge It's just what are you doing? Did you did he seriously just find a way to expand food at a rate that value is created rather than maintained or lost Uh Some of the stuff i mentioned to bring in this what i mean is kind of the point of this uh When i wrote that line initially it was did he just like multiply food? And then i was looking back on it and i was like, hmm That's technically something we can already do like uh, we i should probably be more specific because a lot of people Be like it's not impressive to take food and make more food like you you have to be specific in terms of like Mass is created like we we've there is stuff there that was not there whatsoever before To the point where he's it just solves hunger instantly like yeah, he's expanded its nutritional value Yeah, and he said that he saved money by doing what he just did Like it's Free to make pimp particles Because uh the logic might have been thought to be like is it the same amount of like stuff it just looks bigger It's like no It's more stuff It's more it's definitely more And again, why would she say you have a Nobel prize if not for the fact that he's done something that's absolutely incredible Yeah, and i mean i mean if he doesn't have one he should he just solved world hunger Again like it puts us post scarcity if you can just do this if you just drop that droplet on like a huge silo of I don't know cheese would it go into like an enormous amount of cheese. I don't know Exactly But the film is like, ah, it's a funny meme, but they don't realize that they've We talked about it before but like this Food isn't even remotely the concern now it'd be like wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Because you'd be like well solve world hunger is a big deal. It's like what happens if you put this on like weaponry What happens if you put this on like a rocket Yeah, um like fuel like I don't know It's uh, yeah, this low the government would want their hands on this immediately You know like imagine how many just imagine how much you can build how much food you can create And and they don't realize that it's world building and it's character It's world building because this is an element that exists now in this university You have to account for and it's character because they're just using it to make pizza. Yep Instead of actually using it to help people A way to just multiply food. He just said he saved money They mentioned hope working on food production, but Hank just solved the whole thing It makes you wonder if this is what hope's doing. I don't know I guess But I mean what's she working on it's done You know that you've got it just It would be so funny if in the next uh with the marvels in the background on tv It just says Hank Pym solves world hunger Yeah, because like if they were respecting the events of this film They would have to like they have no choice that that has to be the case The world has been changed forever and they all seem rather casual about it Can't wait to see how this ripples through and affects the world of the mcu You can talk about it. I spent 30 years down there. I want to live right now By the way, when we talk about like continuity her hair color is different. I just noticed from The same film or from the preview film In the scene before when they're in the police station, she had like gold highlights Yes, because it was a reboot and there she doesn't they all look very different in the final scene where they have the birthday party cake That one's better because it's way lighter. Yeah. Yeah, just not like her hair changes That day Holy shit, it makes you wonder how much of this stuff was re-shot and why Injuly new Janet was very open and passionate about the quantum realm at the end of the second movie I wonder what happened between then and now See it's a it's a reoccurring visual because it's just so fucking good You're getting new prints in the slammer this time Wow, Hank doesn't seem to care at all that his granddaughter has a record and with his tech It used to be one of his most significant concerns Kind of looks like we're throwing all of that away for Cassie to just have there's so many directions You could take it you could have it be that scott does like fully Integrate her into the ant-man stuff thinking it'll be great and fun And then like she's messing around with it and Hank just goes ballistic Like what the fuck are you thinking? What is wrong with you? Why the hell would you ever do? Or you can go the other way around Hank is more opened up, but he's still careful But he introduces to her some of the ideas Let's put and scott is the one that's furious like why the hell would you let her anywhere near this? It's like what do you mean? See and then like scott can remind us like you brought me into this knowing I could die Why are you doing it with her and it's like well she showed an interest. I don't I was just trying to you know Conflict people like conflict because it's interesting typically Conflict mostly is are you egotistical fuck scott? You saved trillions of what trillions is understating it like Zillions imagine hawkeye was here for some reason he's just visiting they all say their shit about that and then he says I don't know. I think that uh After saving the universe scott trying to inspire people to do great acts like him is actually kind of a good thing Just to see what the rest of them would say and see cassie like be like I Hate it fun that's good makes you wonder if you don't Those suits make it nine impossible for normal cops to capture you and i'm still wondering what yeah, how the hell did she get caught? She had an ant-man suit What happened and then she also got caught but didn't get caught with the ant-man suit So you know, I guess it happened before we saw it, but it sounds a little nonsensical just saying Yeah Shrinking a cop car has to do with helping people find homes or why it would make a difference to tear gas being shot But hey, we're only 10 minutes in so and there were a lot of people who said like, you know Right up until we go to the quantum realm like things were pretty solid in the movie. It's like good god It's a catastrophe if it's like right away I think this look for my vault ship. It was pretty unfair pages watching the movie like I'm sure we'll get more information as time goes on this time Was there a last time? I mean last time barely counts So now you're telling me that scott's daughter is semi regularly ending up in jail Hank knows this and supplied her the pimp tech to fuck around with and did it all behind scott's back These are not only things that hank is definitely against being that he has a strong motive to protect his family from the dangers of his own tech He's also invested in scott as a father hank's life is partially defined by having lost the connection to his own daughter This is what drew him to scott lang a man. He sees himself in losing his family and his only daughter in the process Exactly your kind of guy hank So why the hell are you now trying to tell me that hank is actively harming the relationship scott has with his daughter? And no one here is taking any issue with any of it. I mean last time barely counts I didn't know that why didn't you call me because I knew you'd be like this Oh, I'm sorry be like what a caring father asking whether it's possible to run the same goals without ending up in jail Is this too much for you? Do you want him to simply not give a shit normally this would be so unreal because it feels like People who wrote this don't have kids or something. It's like How do you think people react to this your kid has gone to jail twice? And then you didn't even know about it and scott find out that it's because hank Like somebody who doesn't really have much of a connection with her at all is subverting your like He's deliberately doing things that you don't like Absolutely fucking nuts incredibly dangerous technology that for that man Like his wife was trapped in the quantum room for 30 years Well, and it's cute that they think that a parent would be like Oh, that's that's awful. What's going on as opposed to what the hell is wrong with you? What the fuck has happened? Give me all the information right now. Also, you're grounded forever Especially considering that scott went to jail um That had significant consequences for him He couldn't get a job and because he couldn't get a job. He couldn't see her Like if anything he is particularly motivated to make sure that she like doesn't go to jail And scott's reaction is so passive like this is this is low level for most parents Yeah, it's pretty chill considering He's already being chewed out for that. It's like you're already overreacting scott clearly Yeah, you're overreacting for that time. I didn't tell you that I went to jail I'm like, hey where I went to jail and you did know like they would be telling her like you are destroying your life And um, I say they because all the characters in this room would be telling her that Unfortunately only one of them even gets close would be hand waived as the trouble It is crazy that like they all decide to shit on scott because he wrote a book after saving the universe Something that is incredibly chill Meanwhile, there's no criticism for her at all for potentially losing their technology Potentially endangering the lives of everybody around there using that tech imagine if you threw the shrink on it hit a person yeah Acting out unfortunately the film seems to side with her. I would have just broken you out with hands The hell you just say old man scott is trying to reach his daughter here after finding out She's making jail her new home after taking tech off you maybe sit down with your pizza And shut up for a second. Okay So unfair because Hank should be the one giving out the most like, you know sage advice, but oh well Yeah, I mean he he was the he was the like he's a serious guy Yeah Something that they and I imagine that uh, what's his name would be like Nah, but see because now that he's got his wife back now. He's super sure that was like the thing So now he's chill like as if his temperament would just flip completely Because of that when if anything you might think that he might be exceedingly cautious now As like well, I got my I got my wife back I don't want anything like this to ever happen ever again Like I can't bear the thought of this happening again that if anything he might become more careful And now might be a good time to mention by the way, we are 17 minutes into the video This would already have taken many weeks um Unfortunately, you might not think so but it taking in the full like process Which of course is that I watch the movies and make sort of watch any of the ones that you know Link to these characters at least the scenes and endgame or whatever just make sure I don't miss anything You know right out the script I've talked about full but I'll watch the film and note and I'll watch the film again And uh categorize all of the notes in an order that I need for the second half of this video Also after having watched the first two movies and extensively Yeah, yeah as once as well And then start writing the script properly, which is going to be a chronological like sort of reacting To everything as it comes You know redraft redraft redraft and then start writing the second half, which is as you guys would have seen It's it's it's hard to describe what exactly the second half is but it's more meta Um, this is more inside the film as it happens The second half is like talking about it as it is where it sits and what it means and what it's done now To each of these characters and uh what it does to the MCU coming forward That all gets done redraft redraft redraft and then you know final proof before I start recording which takes forever Um, it's it's not a process I recommend but I do like three to four takes of each line And that's not including if I do a different kind of reading And then uh cut it all up pace it all out get the right things in the audio places and then render it and send it over to Fringy who then fills in all of the uh the blank spaces for The reactions or the context clues of what's happening while I continue doing the audio and then when I've When I've essentially completed the timeline by then he may have done an hour two hours whatever And it'll be a decision of whether or not I start adding because there's about two hours of this video is visuals I did and then there's about an hour that goes to goga In about four hours there's fringies. Obviously, I've rounded up everybody's time there So that just came to seven when it's six, but you know, I mean um But yeah, just the 17 minutes here is it takes a fucking long time for this to exist Um, I mean when it comes to like visuals Making sure that you're using relevant visuals uh References can take a while to get like sometimes I would spend Like like in a couple of hours just to get like one reference. I'd just be sitting there thinking like holy shit What could I use for this like what's the perfect reaction? Sometimes it would take a while to even figure out what that is But I mean even like cutting together Because you know with with copyright as a thing you need to make sure that your clips are real Real short So like I'm pretty sure that there's like no single like Visual that lasts longer than like four or five seconds Which every every time like you just add that up over the course of several hours. That's a lot of cuts That's like a lot of Decisions about how long to spend on something. What's the right visual to use? It just it takes some time Well, and if there's a moment that I say, uh You know like oh my god, check out the suits of iron man cap black panther ant man and uh I guess the Hulk doesn't really count But hey threw him in there anyway when you when you hear me say that that's like what six seconds at most and you're like Right, this can take me a while so I'm gonna have to grab the best visual I can think of to represent each of those uh names Yeah, because sometimes you can have Sometimes the visuals uh, it's you know, it's all Even though it's all plain while, you know, you're talking how long it takes Veries because it's always I think it's like Think about there has to be like a reason and a thought behind the visual that's being used every time And that takes longer than the amount of time it takes to like You know for you to see the visual play out Yeah, so like if you decide like oh, we need a shot of scott with this reaction. There had to be like a thought process behind Uh putting it there. It's not just flippant. Um There's not the right word flippant. Also, I think so Yeah, it's it's not it's not arbitrary is the point. Yeah Isn't that what we're doing? Yeah, I mean about this about everybody being so fine with this Man, I've never been more in scott's corner than right now. His family have been replaced by scrolls or something So that that's probably a good example, right? This is pretty easy. Like oh, they've been replaced by scrolls Like okay, cool. So scrolls, but then that first part is like, hmm Do I want like a sort of dejected like kind of uh Expression what what is a what kind of expression? Where would I where can I think that that would exist like in a marvel movie or in anything? And then just and then you know find it put it in there Yeah, because this is like curious you got layer one, which is scroll layer two arguably Which is most recognizable because secret invasion came out well into the production of this video So that you know, this is like one of the visuals obviously ben mendelssohn's scroll, which is more so Recognizable for a lot of people and then of course. Yeah, he looks he looks curious Which is Have they been replaced by scrolls now see, you know That's not something that is necessarily going to get noticed No, but uh, yeah, it's recognized Or maybe it's more so that just like it makes sense the visual makes sense even if you know Like without having to think about all of the different layers for why that's the case And I think that's like kind of the because I mean Usually the reactions go by pretty quickly So it needs to be something that instantly sinks in of like yeah, that makes sense. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay I see it. Yep. That that gives me the emotion that I need for uh this line Yeah, that's kind of the intention is that we want you to grasp what the narrator is trying to get across That's not necessarily explicit Your life at least I'm still trying to do something with mine. What what the fuck he literally saved the world 17 and a half minutes. It's not that reserved considering it's a six-hour video, but I couldn't I couldn't I just couldn't It's too much literally saved the world. Yeah, see he saved the world. What do you mean? He's no Yeah, like that one took a while for me like, hmm. Yeah, see Yeah, that was a tough one the uh, I found I don't know if this was the intention but the Saved the world whenever that brings up we show him punching the um the space whale I think it's the best visual to also it gets a little funny to me because it's like It it it becomes absurd right like save the world Save the world. I remember there was a comment saying, um, you're under Understanding if I say any save the world he saved half the universe and it's like no no save the world does not reference earth It's it's the world from your point of view is just everything Um, I know that definitions can be back and forth, but colloquially the world can often mean universe It's interesting that you bring that up because that wasn't the plan it was just Like I use that first because that was that just seemed like the best visual It's giant man punching a massive thing in the middle of the final battle It's the clearest easiest way to convey what he did because there's other scenes of him doing ant-man stuff But they're just not Then they're not as impactful and then yeah, it's just how many times it keeps getting referenced then you realize Oh, I guess this has turned into like a running gag sort of just Naturally wasn't planned You never mentioned that before everybody's gotta save the world. Geez old man. Michael's doing some rambling That's actually style at the time a little bit of interest in terms of how I sometimes edit these If you look at you can notice it when you point it out life You see what look at michael at the end of this Everybody's gotta save the world. Yeah, I noticed this you are extended it because The world extends into the next cut Yeah, what happens with the audio clips and this is this is like fucking 80% of them unfortunately But this is typically how you edit a movie so i'm not like ripping on them for that But the end of my sentence as a character is usually like You hear the end of it at the start of the new shot of the next character who's gonna talk it flows Oftentimes a lot better Unfortunately if I want to show that clip and end it when he's finished talking It means that I have about two frames of some other character at the end of it that just goes And so that's a flash frame now It's really annoying So you have a couple of options one you can clip off the end and extend the video so that he's In slow like slight slow mode to the point you probably wouldn't even notice or you can go the way of Flip off the last two seconds grab the previous two seconds of that and reverse them at the end So that he which by the way they do in film like to try and cover up some things they fuck up And you know you do different ones to try and Cover this to hide it so that people don't feel as though it's as fuckery But one of the best ways to avoid copyright while also doing it is like if a character has a fucking You know 10 second speech, but you want to keep the first three and last three You chop out that middle section and then you just grab in that scene a reaction shot from some other character from some other part Where they're not talking and put it in the middle two seconds that it plays and you can blend it and it looks a lot better There'll be an example of that several times in this video, but those can take ages to get right Well, yeah, because it's you're trying to avoid um flash frames which I mean because that the thing is that that even comes down to like When it comes to the visuals that you have making sure that like they're I don't know if I'd say coherent But just that they don't like seem choppy or bizarre or strange can even come down to when i'm playing a visual while Maul is talking I don't want the visual to end with somebody blinking like I don't want it to end on them blinking I don't want it to have like four or five frames of the next shot um And that's and just being conscious of those things because it makes for a smoother viewing experience And you want it to slide right into you know from audio In and out, uh, you try and fade the clips so that they can almost overrun each other But the idea is to create in a sense the audience. There's no awkward breaks There's no the train is just running. It's going. It's going. It's going. There's no sense of like make sure they heard that Now we can begin the next thing like um, just a matter of I would argue I learned from nostalgia critic Uh, we saw it when we cover him a lot, but he has a lot of gaps for laughs I hate them Because it no, I that's terrible. Uh, that's so awkward Um, but sometimes they're not even for laughs I think he just keeps them in from being inspired by some shows he would have watched whatever because he'll a lot of his videos Will open be like, you know I'm the style to critic and this is my review of Anastasia And then there'll be a two second gap and then music will start and it'll cut into like a thing of anastasia While he's talking about and it's just like why is that gap that it's so awkward to me I always feel like you gotta air on the side of like as few gaps as possible Just keep the train moving. Yeah, because if the joke doesn't land whatever on the next thing already, it's fine Exactly. Um, but if you have the gap then it's just like, what was that gap for? Oh, and I guess now it's something that's on my mind thinking about like all of these sort of editing things something you'll notice in terms of the way that the visuals are cut is that You never have like if we if we have a uh, I guess a A shot that is being used um Usually I try to sync the cuts up with either the end of a sentence or like Kind of a good sounding syllable break of some kind Um, it just seems to like have a better flow and rhythm to it Then if you just have like to like for instance, I don't know if the sentence was so that's pretty uh, no I can't even think of an example. Um, it would just be that you don't have like a shot run on into the next sentence A sentence will always mark And and then the new visual because it just it's it's like You want to try and couple the visual with what's being said right now? And I think the easiest way to do that is to begin and end your clips On sentence breaks and if the sentence is too long then to Try to synchronize those breaks with just just like a good I think to help you out like if you said uh secret invasion episode one introduces Amelia Clark as a brand new character And then she died You'd be like, yeah, do I cut to the scene where she dies on and or she or died and I add and I think you could already think of it from what i'm saying it, but you probably had the gunshot It sounds perfect, right? But exactly and then she like died a new hard cut to the next thing because that just seems to be the most comedically Uh juicy But you can try all of them watch all of them and be like I think the funniest is probably cutting in when she died like it It almost doesn't see it come in and that's what makes it good, but yeah The last thing you got to figure that out like that's not something that I think I think it can seem It can seem obvious and it can seem like it makes a lot of sense when you view it But when you're making it you need to be making these choices about what exactly is going to be the best outcome And sometimes that can take a while to figure out Exactly how it plays the best or like just the right kind of visual and just the right cut that can just take some time Yeah, and sometimes you'll put it in and then look at it on a proof and be like that's still okay Looking on the third proof and be like no, it's not working You feel like really it's like yeah, what's the difference? Yeah, that that happens. Um, I think I think it's good to have an attitude I wouldn't say that it's necessarily about being a perfectionist But it's good to have an attitude of if you feel like you can make it better Even if even if it's going to take a while That that extra effort ultimately it like builds up and accumulates a kind of snowballs If you take the attitude of always thinking, hmm, can this be made better Uh, and then taking those opportunities more often then you go. No, this is this is good enough Uh, and ultimately sort of accumulates really difficult things is spending a while in an edit and only concluding it has to go I guess just not funny or it doesn't work like If you work really hard on it, that is like Either fix it or go Yeah, this is why it happens on like further proofs for me is because I feel more disconnected From the work that it took to make it and so I can more easily cut it The funny thing is I feel like uh Like doing doing the editing for this one. It felt like it was it was I could be more. I guess uh Um More like, uh I think it was I was endgame was tough That one was hard for me to like look at in any way that could be approaching from like an outside perspective All I could see was like Yeah, that wasn't good enough. Oh damn. Yeah, I could have made that better Like it was that was a hard one to make which is funny and compared to this because it was like your audio and your Commentary I found that like a smoother process in terms of being able to make a lot of these choices Which is interesting because it because uh because really like the the approach is hmm How would what would you use here? Like what what what do I think would be like a What do I think is the choice that maul would make for like this visual? Because it's kind of trying to present it as essentially like it's it's like your video, right? That it should feel like an honor with all of the other ones But I mean invariably there's gonna be simpson's references. Well, it's the most varied of visuals I think the any of my videos have been and it's just because you get to like it's our jobs are very specifically different now My mind's like over overhauling the whole thing and building up foundations While yours is very strictly almost the visuals only and so you can get to explore a lot harder Like a visual library almost Well, yeah, I mean the interesting thing is there'll be references in here that you aren't familiar with Yeah, I'm not sure that there are many but there'll be some things that you wouldn't have seen Or things that you wouldn't have thought about because something that you guys might have noticed is there's a lot more animation related Reactions and and visuals and references in here Old man michael doing some rambling. Is this jealousy or something? Are you annoyed that while you would you're a lot more my familiarity with south park isn't good enough to Have visual references a lot outside of the best known stuff, but my simpson's is pretty up to snuff Dust everyone was saving the world How is that we really care that much about the visuals? I would prefer faster video production Um, yeah, too bad. I mean, I don't know uh, how else to respond to that then like This is what I want to make so I care about it Uh, you can say it in as many weird and sarcastic ways you want scott was prompted to let people know he saved the I mean if you it's kind of funny to think about right. It's like if you wanted quicker less visually, uh focused breakdowns of media from me or fringy or rags Maybe There's a second channel where we do that regularly Maybe uh when it comes to our mainline videos though, it's uh We all have preferences for the artistic side of it, but um, don't worry It's better this way. It's just it's better It's funny because the true thing they want is somewhere in between. They don't want the the the The videos to be this Sort of perfected, but they also don't want it to be as uh visual less as the efap can be So it's just like well at that point you just want it a particular way. That's that's great But you know we want a particular way and the way is a better thing at the end It's just better. It is better at the end with all of uh, like the attempts to have varied visuals The world by this sack of ungrateful flesh telling him he's doing nothing I mean, this is all getting a bit weird guys You're angry at him for what saving the world at least janet isn't making fun of you should write a book about it Jan, uh, uh, what is this? Yes The man did indeed save trillions of lives by facilitating every last move that led to the undoing of the snap If you didn't know janet the man Oh, that's the beginning of a running gag that I didn't realize was gonna happen Yeah, because I don't I didn't give you much of any actual, uh, restrictions and there's good reason for that in terms of like It'll all come through me anyway So I kind of like seeing where you wait, you know What ideas you have or interpretations you have a different lines And if for example, there was like, I think a grand total about four or five times where I said something you put a visual there I was like, oh, I wasn't talking about that I was talking about this and I can just correct it But there are some things where I'm like, oh, that's an interesting, you know visual for that I would have gone with something a lot more mundane or or um pragmatic so to speak and so Instead of giving you a laundry list of like this means this this means this is just like go nuts Do whatever you want. Yeah, I think uh as the process went on I basically started getting more and more I guess you could say liberal with the approach It was more like, okay I'll just do this and you know, if it's if it's funny if it works Then it will make it in and if not, then you'll just make a change to make it more in line with the style But that one was uh, I didn't know that it was gonna be I like it just it was a funny reaction the zoom and then it just kept happening Yeah With the very like derisive scornful janet and then that became like a running gag in the video I mean, you know, it's once you it keeps stacking up Her failure. It just keeps getting worse and worse. It's including your own can hold it over you till the end of time The beautiful simpsons reference Shake a hike boss. I'm in charge now. All hail king over It's not his character. However, he is capable of pointing out you'd all be dead if not for him So maybe you can chill out on the bizarre bitterness You're welcome for all not being dust and what do you do now? That reaction there from scott. I didn't focus on it, but it comes across to me is so like Man, I'm getting so tired right now. Like this is insane Beat down. Yeah, but but he puts up with it because he's scott lang Yeah, at least partially in this movie sign books Bloody hell. She is one sour bratty brick scott is currently touring with an it's a great reaction because the face covers it But that scene is also about another sour bratty brick Yeah, that's right. That was uh, that felt perfect. Sometimes you're just like, ah, yep. There it is There was no better choice. Yeah for visual a lot of the whereas plenty of them They'll be like that was one of many decent choices Book he's doing readings for kids adolescents and adults alike telling them that they can achieve what he did If they just take a chance that no one is too small on top of that His mission statement is you to be there for you to raise you Something you just ripped into him four minutes ago. And as if that's not enough. He made this explicit I said the most reasonable explanation. She doesn't know about any of this. She didn't read the book Which is really sad Which is lame It's uh, that's does a payoff in and of itself the fact that she would have read his book But no, she didn't she didn't care about it. Well, I'd be there when the avengers need me Absolutely I'd never turn my back. Oh, maybe this would be an example of like, uh, the the way that you need to cut visuals You don't want to have I don't want to have like a close-up of scott and then a cut to another scene that's a close-up of scott It's just kind of weird. Yeah visually. It's like you want to So the easiest way to explain it is if he if it's if it's about the same framing If he's taken up about as much space in the frame Uh, like you don't want to use that one and then cut to a new one because it just looks jarring You'd rather it's better to have like a wide shot and then cut back to it And it's kind of just being conscious of like the clips that you're using in that section and re-arranging them to make it flow In a way that feels natural and not clunky Yeah, very um a lot of the redrafting picks up stuff like that Like wait a minute that feels all stunted. They need him. He will answer the call. So fuck all of you idiots What happened to that sweet caring girl in the first two movies the one who saw her father for who he was Yeah, they flipped it now. She's the only one who doesn't see her father And for no real reason at all despite his situation You know the one who managed to understand reality better than you despite being six I had a surprisingly large amount of comments even from um, like just random sort of friends about this video So they were like those clips of ant man man That man seems pretty good. It's like it actually is pretty kind of good It's a decent movie. It's a solid movie. I think it's part of it is if you watch it now It'll surprise you because of how much like better it is than phase four and five it's uh Like it's it's a normal movie. Yeah, it hits standard beats and does them well Um, and yeah her and scott are like the heart of the movie So why it's especially fucking annoying if you rewatch it and then watch contra mania At this point, I'd say she needs pimp tech to shrink her ego I uh, I thought about using the visual uh from community with uh Apple in his head. Yeah the ego. Yeah Problem with that it was I think it was the acquiring of the visual But also it's it can be a little bit confusing if someone doesn't know the context Yeah, whereas I figured just using the shrink tech from ant man to shrink something was an easier simple way to get that across Yeah, trying to do something that matters Jesus That's uh, that's uh, that visual synced up really well really well and uh that I think from judging from comments That was everyone's favorite insult. That was one of the highest rated Rags really like that when we proofed Creative it is. Uh, it's fun. You are also incredibly wrong Of course scott knows people still need help. He went to jail helping people several times He lost time with you by trying to help people and he's helping people right now Did I miss a whole ass movie where scott went on an arc involving his failure to give a shit about people? When did this happen and wait a second. What do you mean we who's we? What are you three? I always like to um in the script try and sync back up with the movie because uh I could just end my point and then play the clip or I can try and Interrupt myself with a thought and then the movie carries on that thought because I do it a couple times with like whatever scott's saying or Um, I think I did it in the car right where it says uh, you have a way she has a suit You have a suit like it I think it makes it more dynamic Up to and science Let's just show them. Well, uh, sure But we have a whole family issue here to deal with a family issue. Nope. No more character anymore You can be made worse by whatever it is. You're about just crazy a lot of movies Uh, maybe don't know this but you can just you can just do character the whole time You can just keep it up whole time all through scenes. You can just keep doing character Veal so just wait wait. Can you stop stop wait wait? What are they building? Are you doing this? Actually? No, they built their own tech. Whoa. Okay, stop stop Yeah, also, I don't highlight it But that's pretty obviously adr both of them All of that shit was not in their original version Because that means that they didn't feel the need to set up the ants that they just saw them go into the quantum realm Then they turned up later But now they they injected that to make sure it's like these these are the you heard uh Jeff los has talked about he's like that's that's the check-offs ants Yeah, which uh, I'm pretty sure I mentioned on uh, our string covering it. I didn't know something he fucking said I was joking. Yeah, it's it is a joke It's it's stupid and if he doesn't know why it would be like well because that's not how good writing works You don't just get if a time traveling dinosaur crossed with Jesus saved us at the end of our script I don't it doesn't become good if I mentioned that at the beginning It doesn't really t-rex Jesus. That's a thing by the way There you go. I set it up. That's not at all. Now. We need to go over. What's just happened. This is insane You've all based on another sentence. It's a classic. We get a lot out of that seed Yeah, I think we've got four or five references just from that saying the the modoc one I could talk about them once that's that in case we don't get to it for whatever reason um The way that I said this was split was I did all of the audio obviously writing recording and cutting into a big timeline for needed. I believe four hours of visuals like that, um, basically What what I know for sure. Well, what I remember for sure is that From here until the end of the coverage of the film from beginning to end I handled that alone and then after that it starts to get mixed up a bit more. Yeah Summer it's me Goga's part begins with when I start talking about plot summary in the second half. Yeah, so I think that ends Uh with the end of hank Or no the beginning of hank because you start on hank Because I did hank. Yeah, and then your part then ends at Jan Cassie Uh, I think yeah, I think I had a Cassie portion and then there was another part that I did as well um, and then I do From Cassie to the end, which it equals out. I think Goga had about 40 minutes I had about two hours And 10 or 20 and then of course I I saw everyone's parts into chop them all in process them all and then Proof proof proof But the other person that needs a mention for the credit is that a lot of the bigger more complicated modoc memes They all go to dust bullshit. I asked him as a favor for those and he fucking knocked it out of the park They were glorious It was it was a mic We had a good thing you stupid son of a bitch It was perfect. So it was fun to discover those Yes, when I was editing they were uh Of what I was showing people when this was being made. I showed them some of that But they would get the biggest laughs the uh modoc is really funny Basically let scott know that you think he's doing a poor job with his potential that he is narcissistic And you are seemingly ashamed of him while also screwing around behind his back and feeding his daughter all kinds of dangerous tech That's landing her in jail a lot of this was brought up But we're now moving on because hank has just revealed his fucking ants are sophisticated enough to build elevators and electrical light So I'll point it out. I didn't even think of it. It's like, why would an ant colony build an elevator? Would they build an elevator first of all they can just walk up walls, but also they're known for the incredible ability to carry Well, it's just ants like that. I mean look at all of the vertical paths in there. Yeah But there's just an elevator there. It's like why because that's technology. They're pretty smart ants Yeah, that's the only reason to say it's so shit. It's so staggeringly shit Sources on their own Presumably utilizing metal. What in the holy fuck is this my dude? Do we need to get the word? Gotta appreciate that The milk monster is looking at luke like what are you doing my dude? He's just against silence Yes involved have we made contact with the ants of earth Do we need a human ant baster? Should we be treating this like the breakthrough? It clearly is does anyone yeah, it's just it's so insane to have developed with a species in your basement so hard that they now Like a building or in technology They've got an understanding of tools that goes beyond any other animal outside of humans now like it's This is something that we need to let everyone know about When you care, what does hank have to say about this? Pretty smart ants pretty smart pretty smart ants. What the fuck is going on this pot took a while Yeah, lots of Solid reactions and we this came up in our e-fab stream about it the pretty smart anything It just it's just recurring because it's like what pathetic writing is that he's smart Yeah, you could say that I suppose pretty sapient ants pretty enslaved by hank pym after being gifted with greater intelligence ants What the I think there's a really great combo of the script and the visuals there just it's yeah Makes the point very clearly and we even have a reference to a film that most people may have momentarily forgotten and then been like Oh, yeah Yeah, they all pretty smart ants Like gone those five years. I started reading grandpa hanks old journals and I got really into the quantum realm and bullshit Not only would those things she locked the fuck up and written in goddamn code You had no understanding of the ant tech. You had no intro to it at all Cassie had a life the only way I was really happy with that one Sinks up with hank clicking to uh, yeah like explaining cassie's backstory Heck giving her a chance to learn anything about it is with all of these fuckers being alive and Passionately invested in getting her up to speed at the same time considering what's about to happen She would have needed a bloody university course in quantum. Look at that expression. That's great. Yeah, that's great Mechanics no way you can convince me she got into quantum fucking physics through notes She found after being passionate about it when she was eight This oh, what a glorious fucking reference, man I'm unfortunately, I can't remember if this was something I get for memory or if it was something I caught by chance Because it's perfect. It feels like it was built to make fun of this Ask why you felt little tiffani deserved to die. She's about eight years old. Those books are way too advanced for her Yes, me. I'll say she's up to something fucking too, right? It is absurd that an eight-year-old would get a two quantum physics It's not a thing The idea of I got you know, I started reading hanks like journals if you presented me with his journals What can I do with that if I don't have like a foundation in physics? I did physics at school and like if you just gave me his journals I can't do anything with that Like it's worthless to me and then you tell me that like yeah like a ten-year-old girl Just gets these notes on the most sophisticated most advanced Of quantum mechanics and just picks it up and then builds a Hubble telescope in her basement a Hubble telescope that was built by team Like hundreds and hundreds of the most intelligent people in the world and she just built it in her basement Like yeah, okay, cool someone's at j longbone reminded you in a stream So credit to her if that's true. I I genuinely can't remember unfortunately, but it's such a brilliant reference Yeah, and uh Yeah, of course, you're right And if you reverse engineer it the reason why it was written that way is because they can't think of any other way To justify why she's doing quantum shit. There isn't one As much as she's scott's kid, but there's no reference in the first two movies to her having any interest in fucking quantum physics guys That's insane Not even scott really has an understanding of quantum physics He's not a quantum physics guy. He's like that's what that's what a hope and uh and hanker for they're there They're the experts in all the quantum stuff mainly hank hope. Yes, uh, definitely more Hope has definitely got more familiarity than scott But because scott's thing is uh electrical engineer right and he had relative insight into the construction of the suit which gave him a chance to manipulate the um the I'm gonna forget the name of it the the thing that the prevents you from going too small Though for anybody who's unconvinced just give it a sec I got really into the quantum realm and quantum realm I know we all have a history there And at least now scott is realizing that hank has been behind all of this and don't get me wrong It makes no sense for hank to do any of it But at least scott can finally do something about it That that little look makes you think oh, is he finally gonna chew hank out I'm only gonna do something about this, but no it she had some questions. Okay. I can't help with people are inspired by me I guess that could be considered a callback to when scott delivered this clunker of a line. You saved eight bucks God, I admire you Thank you except there is a difference between inspiration and admiration Inspiring his daughter is fucking far from the issue. I'm looking forward to the part where scott rips into hank for all this Bullshit, I mean he's barely her grandpa. He's barely been in her life at all Hank didn't even get to properly meet her in the first film Yeah, it seriously is something that they glossed over they just have no relationship at all They don't know each other hank is a weird Cassie, but he never spoke to it properly No, uh, he never spoke to her in the first two films So you have to assume that all of that occurred offscreen which sure it could have but like You're asking people to accept that this like new dynamic exists that they'd never seen before And it's a strange dynamic Yeah In the sequel on the run thanks to civil wars events and then he's snapped He didn't have a relationship with her and now he's apparently hyper interested as she's been reading his work since the snap Makes it even harder to believe she had any access or interest in hank's notes specifically The man is pretty protective as long as I am alive Oh god, it's just And then someone would be like, yeah, but that was 1986. Shut up Well, it's just funny. This is how characterization used to work. There's like a core and this without any There's no understanding this muddled here. It's like hank protects pim tech very straightforward. Yeah But sure with that cassie is now a quantum expert. Don't believe me just you wait So you've been studying the quantum realm Why didn't you ask me about it? There is so much one could say about this war crime of a plot point And my god, I will give up the hours to do it. I tried mom A lot you never wanted to talk about it. Janet was obvious and the Shady do right. I just recommend it as well an alternate thing you could have played with is the cassie hay tank You can have it be that like he's the reason that all this shit happened The the dad would have been with her the whole time if not for fucking around the quantum realm She could have been like, why weren't you guys doing it? Why do you make scott do it all the time? Imagine she found out that scott was only in the ant suit because hank considered him expendable Yeah drama you can use if you want, but no, they don't use any of it Silly and thoroughly pro quantum stuff at the end of ant man and the wasp That's precisely where she became more prominent as a character talking about many of the areas that exist there and the dangers within As well as for she's quite she's quite funny about it. She's having she's having a laugh, you know It's all chill. It's like you just want to be on the set right when they're filled with that seed and be like what about modak Like what like what about what about if she gets sucks in what we're gonna do that. It's like, uh I don't know what you're talking about. You're like, yeah, you will one day Taking the energy and tech needed to save ghost remember ghost remember goliath Well, the writers don't and to be honest, you don't either in any case What is this weird new aspect of janet's character where she don't remember if it was as or garrison when they were watching this that They thought it was funny They synced up with basically saying to the video like I do not remember there But then I say like you don't remember that was like, yeah, no, I don't nobody does Doesn't want to talk about the quantum realm at all seems like earlier was an example of her not wanting to talk Specifically about what she did there But that she's on board with working on it or with it studying it, etc So hope is being a rascally rabid here. She's not making much sense And when a character isn't making much sense, you'll find the plot might be pushing them in a particular direction It would be like if someone didn't want to talk about the trauma related to a series of droids killing their parents And so then you decide to create a fucking butler droid in their basement without telling them since they are being Evasive about the subject of droids. Not only does that make no sense. It's just an asshole thing to do Mando was shit, by the way Not sure some great visuals to to capitalize on how shit it is the jetpack camera And the regurgitation and a mando pops out. That's just a perfect visual Or how you thought those things were the same there hope your dialogue hasn't been stellar so far In any case, it's kind of weird that janet hasn't talked about meeting kang in the quantum realm either But maybe it was a mostly uneventful thing that happened. Maybe she has nothing to say about it. I'm sure it'll be fine Cassie's just being curious and we gave her some pointers Okay, so what did cassie do with some notes and pointers then? What did she make? Like a satellite for deep space or the ocean but You fucking what may a satellite for the ocean or deep space but for the quantum realm How in the what the you did this your daughter built a subatomic I saw a comment by the way because I'd mentioned of course we haven't mapped out all of the ocean yet Someone commented say it. Um, yes, we have we know where all of the oceans are Uh Thanks, bro. Yeah, obviously We haven't mapped out the ocean floor. I think we barely mapped it out, right? It's only like 15 20 percent. Yes, so ridiculously low, but I read that. I was like, holy shit Yeah, like, yes, we know we know where the water is. That's true. Yeah, the idea that like You could just keep sailing. It's like, oh my god. I've discovered a new sea Come on No, again, it is worth it. I kind of hate this line the idea like it annoys me because I feel like this stuff I feel like this stuff contributes to a lack of appreciation for like real science Oh, yeah, she built like a Hubble telescope in her basement. Yeah, cool. Awesome. Yeah It's not like that took hundreds of people like I think didn't the Hubble telescope it cost like a few billion dollars, didn't it? Well, they have infinite money infinite resources infinite tech She probably had loads of prototypes that went wrong and just got bitched. Who cares? Yeah, how much of the Hubble telescope cost? Uh, the Hubble telescope cost No, where's the cost? Where is it? Damn it. Um Hold on All right I just I need to know or maybe someone in chat knows How much it costs? I would have thought it'd be pretty easily google-able. Is it you looking through results? I was on wikipedia. Yeah, hold on Hubble telescope cost uh Apparently the Hubble telescope, uh cost two billion dollars, but the total writing of the Hubble telescope was 10 billion dollars Well I'm sure they have that pretty casually in the Oh, apparently, uh, it was adjusted for inflation and stuff. It's like 5.8 billion dollars and yeah The the point is Cost billions of dollars and it took hundreds of people hundreds of smartest people in the world working for years on it Uh, she built it in her basement with like, I guess whatever stuff Hank just sort of had laying around And I bet they wish they had Cassie when they were working on the Hubble telescope and remember Remember the Hubble telescope didn't map the entire universe It it specifically would use to examine portions of the of the universe She built something that apparently can map out the entire quantum realm, which Presumably the entire quantum realm is like infinitely bigger than the entire universe, which itself is already like Massive on a scale that's difficult to put into words Yes, because remember she says we can map the entire quantum realm It's like oh the answer you couldn't just write the line if we can map some of it We can map a portion of it. It's the thing though. It just doesn't doesn't make sense See we we can't we can't map that which cannot be operated via a map like there's no mapping of the quantum realm What does it mean to generate a map of the quantum realm? What does it mean to generate a map of a place that? like Radically completely and utterly defies any and all Of our understanding of the way that yeah Certainly human understanding like we cannot perceive it in a logically consistent way So how do we make a human made map of it? That's the problem is that their imagination is way too limited the quantum room is essentially a place that can be comprehensible to a human being Well, it's got cities and towns and stuff that particular world within a world within a world maybe but I guess so, but wow because we've seen other parts of the quantum realm that are incomprehensible More or less like the place that scott got trapped the void. Yeah Yeah, and the void the subatomic Why did they say that? Telescope in a basement silence old man. You're making this much Another one when you were gone I could have found you what you didn't even know what happened to him for the five years He was gone you and everyone else figured that he got blipped So how would that have encouraged you to pursue a device that could have found him in the quantum realm? Unless of course you are making all of this up Forgetting your own timeline and starting to realize she could only have been working on this world changing technology Recently nice try I guess Though I appreciate showing that cassie does give a shit about her dad remnants of that are better than nothing Anyway, yes, cassie the teenager created a subatomic Hubble telescope Yeah, that's a deep deep little reference there the entire if you know, you know She can map out the quantum realm when we can't even fully map out How do you map out a place that operates on several levels of reality according to these guys It doesn't even have a through line of space or time, but sure Yeah, like how do you map out that the teenager created tech that blows the minds of hank pym et al In a basement with a box of highly sensitive highly complex expensive Pimtech devices because fuck it join the club cassie There's plenty of company dead is the time of the people who work hard in their lives backed by parents who've been in it Since they were young mentoring you and sending you to every top school imaginable only for you to make revolutionary The thing you you break it enough and then I think the justification would be like whatever everyone else is making crazy shit It's like It seems like that's where we're at now because this is a crazy sci-fi world where like individuals can just create revolutionary tech with a box of scrap I don't know it feels like because even with the eye like what he accomplished in that cave was remarkable But it feels like the the film recognizes. Well, sure But like it ain't it ain't amazing compared to what he can build with like resources and time It it got the job done It is very much a proto iron man suit whereas by comparison the iron heart like that suit is Like that suits crazy the one that she built. It's like incredible It might as well be like a regular iron man suit obviously some time has passed but still it doesn't come across as something that was You know like essentially cobbled together with whatever you had Um, I don't know it feels like it makes it it makes a clear distinction, right? The mark one is this clunky Bailey operable pretty pretty impressive considering the context was made in but definitely like not the best thing it could be Uh suit and then Contrast sharply with what he can make when he gets time and resources to make something He and the it also helped he's incredibly wealthy So justification access to all this is the power source and the power source is justified because it's work that he He was familiar with the arc reactor stuff before it just it was scuttled, right? It wasn't it didn't work out the way they wanted They they put all the setups in there for why this happened It's a long history for why I can your forties. No fuck that just be you You send a signal down from here and then it collects the data and it sends it back I don't see why hank couldn't have come up with that the way she explains it It's like the simplest thing ever you send signal down the signal comes back up. I was like, okay Because you didn't know how to write anything But hey, that's what we're trying to highlight here Is just like this sounds like somebody anybody with familiarity could have done But of course hank is still struggling with the fact that he doesn't recognize the quantum realm at all Quantum physics, you'd have thought he'd talk about it with janet a lot, but I guess she was like no And then he was like oh for this, you know, look at this destroy it. What is him? Well beyond my understanding. I'm just here for the characters. Wait a minute You're sending a see and a visual like that you'd be like is the only layer that he's watching something on tv He's like well, of course. It's that he's He's like fucking losing his mind. I think that's season three of the boys He's he's struggling that he's watching like the the avengers equivalent of the seven or whatever and he hates it Right because it's all about it's just all fake And of course like that's a versatile meme when I say, you know, I'm watching the characters That is how I feel because all of them get destroyed signal Down to the quantum realm. Yes, janet. That's what she's saying And if you had any compulsion about this sort of thing taking place, it seems you should have raised an alarm the second They said references, I think oh They were working on the well because I think there was one where I it was where you're doing the like the uppercut thing um Because I think you mentioned uppercut and then of course. Yes, I don't know Yeah Some realm without your knowledge. I mean it makes no sense regardless You guys have been fucking around with and entering the quantum realm for some time Certainly after janet had returned. So what's the problem? Well, whatever is happening here, it better slot in with everything else It was perfect slots in and then destroys the foundation, which is what I was talking about Yeah, but yeah, it's you know, not to toot my own horn, but it's a pretty multi-layered joke It wakes waldronator this time. Yeah, that's definitely a case of me just not knowing what to do with the script We have jeff loveness writing this masterpiece. So What's happening? You gotta you gotta delay the reveal of his famous quote. Okay. You can't just throw it in We've got to see his work first. There's something I should have told you Well, wait a minute. Didn't she just disconnect it? How's it doing that with no power? Short references. Mm-hmm. And yeah, this is this is arguably a nitpick, but it's also just like a what is happening then? There's no power There is no power. Well, it's When you when you expand and you realize what happened here Disconnected from power a telescope gets turned into a shrinking portal device. Yeah And someone be like it's sci-fi be like, okay I don't understand why it would be like if I don't know you were standing by the Hubble telescope pointing at it Something and then you got teleported elsewhere through the Hubble telescopes technology It just doesn't make any sense. It is devoid of sense. It is sans sense Oh, we're we're done with Look at this depressed iceman. Look at him. It's sad No resolving what Hank has done nothing to make any of all of this make any more sense And Cassie's gonna be right about scott, isn't she? Well, anyway, wow explosion of quantum or something I think I got a couple of as well references in here. Okay, you suit up and get out of there folks. This looks dangerous Don't don't just uh, don't don't just don't just stand there for fuck's sake Uh, the first several Okay, this is pretty bad and before we can even really make sense of it from a story perspective Maybe you guys should pop your suits on We know that scott and hope have them almost automated and since they act as armor We should probably have everyone with a chance to pop them on at any moment Especially when hank doesn't seem to give a shit anymore and considering the bullshit in this universe haunting them around every corner In any case, there is some neat stuff choice of visuals. We have like a sci-fi space monsters the fantasy soul-sucking dragon creature Beyond this dimension and then yeah, that's just everything happens in this universe now. Yeah, for example Now i'm not talking about tossing janet into a portal. I don't hate her that much yet It's that she loses her grip considering this thing is bending the bloody walls And she's pulled in only for hank to try and reach for her leading to him falling in as well The guy was madly in love with her and lost her for 30 years We know at this point he'll do everything he can not to lose her including sacrificing his own grip I do appreciate that kind of storytelling action scenes are incredibly important for character In fact, that's a little foreshadowing for one of the only things I like in iaman 3 Yeah, it's um, I think it took a while because I remember I was I think I asked you it's like What do you think would be like the perfect visual? Because I I was I was trying to think of like examples and then you you floated that one for mine man 3 And I remember my thought was yeah, but like that film sucks though And then it was like yeah, but that's it's a good reference like it's true that is character It's one of the things in that film It frustrates me to an end because of the potential for iron man storytelling But the idea that you've got a suit that he can attach to people at his will And you know the whole building's coming down and he has to choose between himself and pepper and he chooses here It's just like that's really good shit It's instant character and action And uh, I even like the way it's shot in the film where it's like we slow it down They're both You know being blasted away and he he very very consciously gets it on it before she falls Yep, check this out Oh, so bad, so bad She's lost one and almost both several times She's got incredibly deep trauma related to the lack of time She's had with both of them the only hesitation she see and this is the thing it sucks I don't even think people fucking remember any of that Most people watching this movie won't even remember like how much How much their relationship is so incredibly important to like show us We get barely anything in this film even though both of the actresses talked about how important it was as well It's it's like a conflict is started as to what info you remember because he talks about it Right like that the secret and we got we got to take it seriously and it's like okay cancel that What else is there between you two in this movie? You kept a secret from me. Here's the secret. All right. You told me good. That's it Yep, and that's about halfway through the movie. Yeah, and there's nothing else Before going after them is a look to scott could be the last time she sees him But she has to go and if I'm being a bit generous I'd say we're shown he understands that kassie then slips in and of course scott is prompted to go after her Oh look at that scott deciding that he's gonna risk himself to go and help someone when he didn't have to Oh my god crazy Overall not the worst 10 seconds of the movie and genuinely probably the best 10 seconds of the movie It's uh, obviously high stakes and they get everybody to do the things they should do In fact, it could end up being my favorite And it's just about the easiest thing to portray in terms of choices But hell that's all i'm ever asking for it's still a I swear to god If you just get like the big character choice is correct Everything else can flow from it and you can make a whole bunch of mistakes and people won't mind Just get them fucking right annoying. However that kassie hank and janet apparently all don't have their protective suits Not even for the purposes of shrinking or growing just for the insane armor and flight I think seriously if he just got splatted that was it like blood goes everywhere. It's like he's dead like oh, okay You ever notice how every single time they enter these crazy nonsense tunnels They somehow luckily managed to avoid the million forms of death flying right at them It's also worth noting that the ant colony from earlier has entered the realm and smashed leaving the ants to float away and zap forward Who knows what that will lead to such a scuffed visual But it's if you know, you know again like it's it leads to the worst bit of right of the whole movie. So Yeah Regardless hope manages to grab both hank and janet and they reach a destination together Which to be honest seems incredibly lucky considering how chaotic everything is here But whatever we also get some acting from kassie Uh, yeah, I believe it and that that crusty is just That clip has to be extended He is not like blank faced staring for quite as long as that clip needs a lot. So I just extended it Yes, which is funny because That clip actually gets played almost in full later as part of a different thing and that part of it is cut out to You know reduce copyright. So perfect. There you go. You got it in full Good lord man, that's gonna be hard on the back miraculously nothing gets through the sooch Some of this interesting about those sounds is like I will provide My timeline to freeing he'll add the visuals and send them back And then because I don't want like for every Like the for every render Obviously with how bit right wicks and everything it just it chews up the data more and more and more So you want to limit them as much as possible meaning I render out the audio give it to freeing I don't use the audio. He's now rendered out back. I use my audio originally and put his visuals on them That means I miss out on some of the The audio he's put in from some of these clips and so in our like primary proofing He has to just let me know which ones have it in them so I can restore them so to speak But it's pretty seamless, but they actually I I fade my original audio into his rendered audio and I don't know. I think I think it mostly gets gotten away with nobody notices anything Just uh, that was something that we had to I had to keep in mind during the proofing process was Okay, I need to make sure that I'm remembering where did I insert a sudden sound effect Because I like sudden sound effects Like that was something that ended up being a big part of the endgame video was just Southern loud noise is really funny. It just is Especially when you're not expecting it and especially when it's not showing up all the time And it makes it keeps people alert it keeps them, you know When you because I think there's one here where it's uh in diehard when he drops the dude through uh Through the window. It's just a loud shatter sound to just be like, yeah, you paying attention. Yeah, you're paying attention now, aren't you? Sure, but force does right? Maybe not imagine like free fall doesn't do anything But a punch in a kick gets through the suit that would be funny though. It's a bit odd Poor shadowy, but she didn't suit her Anyone with even a modicum of self-preservation would have popped that shit on in a heartbeat Seems a little weird that he got the same sort of temporary exhaustion. He usually gets when getting big only here He's still nanoscopic at best. He shrank down so far. He's in the quantum realm So going several sizes larger is still tiny. Shouldn't he still be operating? I opted for the word sizes in the script because I don't know what else to fucking say Like it's so weird. It's all relative, of course So none of it he's not really getting bigger small whatever. It's just He's still tiny. Fuck it. You know what I'm trying to say That's why I keep using the dr. Evil figures reading as though. He's very small not exhausted from being big I mean the whole mass difference and whatnot. Why the fuck am I even asking these questions? surprising amount of clips from that movie considering It's uh one that a lot of people don't even probably remember that much because I threw in the uh A square peg round whole thing Yep, which is a great visual. Um, yeah, there's uh, I think there's one more reference to Apollo 13 Oh boy, look at that generic alien world background number seven eight three That to be fair only lacks character because the story will be doing fuck all to support it while the cg artists Toiled in the sugar caves for endless days and nights. It's funny. I wrote that I was like That visual will be there because that's the visual That's the one to do But hey colors See like this nothing connected those two those two worlds. We just saw back to back It's almost like it was designed by two different people and they might say like well Yeah, it was and they were told that there's a quantum world. We're all kinds of things. I was like, okay fine Just uh know the result you'll get by doing that Hey idiot, maybe don't do the prometheus thing and take off your helmet when on a completely unfamiliar and quantum land That as far as you knew requires super tech to survive in at least the prometheus guy detected oxygen You literally can't you're smaller than those particles and you have no tech assisting you In fact, how the fuck are any of you alive? How are you functioning in any way when that small without protective gear? Can we get an explanation? We should be dead Why aren't we I don't know. Yeah, okay. That's good enough lads. What does take pride in your work mean? I don't know. It's just so good to see denims cameoing, of course And what's interesting too is that if you remember there's going to be a part later where we see the Director's commentary with the writer talking about how it's not fun to have to account for the fact that they shouldn't be able to breathe Like we don't want to do that and be like why not bring it in now And it's like well the way this works Is that i'm trying to give the film all of the benefit of the doubt and take it for what it is Instead of being like because there's a lot of things we could immediately resort to the meta commentary from The people who created this to start shitting on it But i'm doing my best to give it as much of a fair shake as possible But of course when we get I think about an hour into the film. It's like This is an absolute fucking mess So we can start at least involving some of the insight from how they made it Just about what one would expect from the writing teams behind anything phase four Oh, sorry phase five, of course Also, I was going to give him a pass on their entry to this flimpy world being that hope clearly grabbed them And so the three of them so fun fact I told rags and breathers That complaint was not in the original script nor in the recording the complaint sorry I should let this play out actually practically had a softened landing thanks to her wings But now they're all up and about in different places So if they landed separately, then how did they survive the fall? So that that wasn't in the original I was in one of the like last drafts that criticism got added in Because I watched this film with my mum and dad who are not in the clips That is my sister and her husband Um who are laughing and making fun of the film. I didn't record the one with my mum and dad I was just really curious how they would take the film and so we're watching it and in the original script I say I appreciate that, you know those two would have landed just fine Because hope's wings would have softened it. Um I don't I don't know if there's she can make them fly with three people at once But it doesn't matter. He's you know softened it whatever they're fine And so we're watching the film and that happens and my mum is like How are they how are they all okay? And I assume immediately like they're maybe talking about the oxygen stuff and I was just like oh I don't know. They just don't really give a reason and then she was like no like like Not for the oxygen stuff for the for the fall when they've like broken their backs And again my mum and I was like well no, um hope has wings So like she would have delayed it and then she's like but they woke up in separate places And I remember watching the film being like Wait, what the fuck? Hang on And then she was like should they like just be dead and I was like fuck. Yes. They should in multiple ways damn So yeah, that's really a good observation there. I was really surprised. I was like, all right Well, I gotta I gotta rerecord that part now because that's true Do not move So this is the quantum realm a brand new universe with its own entirely unique ecology Yes, this is entirely different from what we all understood to be the truth for some time But don't worry. I'm sure they'll explain for now We have a spooky quantum robot doing a scan and it's thwarted because they stand behind a quantum tree Fucking useless scanner in any case hope it's funny about that visual as a lot of people might not even recognize it like What is that sparking on the floor? It's like It's all iron man, too It was it was called the x wife, right? Uh, uh, I think so. I think that's what uh, just to have it calls it. Yeah, it's uh Rody fires it at whiplash and it does nothing And it kind of makes a fart sound like yeah open hank have some questions Keep your voice down. You said there was nothing down here. That line doesn't work very well now does it? We already knew there was something down here. It's where we collected the energy for ghost Yeah, yeah, I know nobody remembers it hanks all plenty when he came down and janet lived here for 30 years This is what I mean like what did the conversation look like it's like mom. How did you survive down there? She's like there's nothing down there like nothing, okay Nothing didn't do nothing didn't go anywhere. I was just nothing Is you really thought there was nothing? Everything but right now. I just need you to trust me trust you don't have time to talk Well, actually you have a lot of time like seriously a lot of time You are walking in the quantum jungle Just talk while you walk and then you will be talking without anybody to shout recognize the guy on the right Give him a sack if you want You can honestly do both it would be weird if you had incredibly important information to share and you simply don't like for no reason at all Let's hope that ain't it. Why didn't you listen? I told you to stay away from here. I should have told you what we were doing I had no idea But she didn't tell you to stay away at all You even had to go into the quantum realm to get the quantum energy to save like if she had said to them at some point Never study the quantum realm. I think all would be like wait. What why? That would be a conversation that would have but that never happened. She's like Ghosts from a life of quantum torment. Yes. I know nobody remembers her But it's your history movie not mine You were jumping in and out of it well after janet returned. She was fine with it. What changed We'll talk later right now. We stick together. We find scott and cassie and we go home. Okay You can walk and talk janet. Tell these poor souls including us at home what you are hiding Don't give me this mas canata shit a good question for another time. You're all ain't that crazy that line It's been overshadowed by all the craziness of the sequel trilogy and the rest of disney sols But that one felt like one of the original like people been like wait a minute I don't know. That seems like a shitty excuse like it was It never got explained No, we're all wandering through bullshit rambling about anything anyway. Just explain it Well, it did get explained in the third party shit as far as I'm aware, but uh, no No, most people don't watch that or read third party material on some realm for years Why didn't I see any of this because your life's work is apparently a joke hank you didn't see or no shit sit down You weren't able to look deep enough Not through the void and subatomica the subawattica the illumawadi at least they mentioned the void And I think when you connect things like that it's just it's you just get this overall well-being sense of like Fuck you now This is so awful. It is like yeah Scott end up that janet was supposed to be stuck in as well back then at least But I guess she was in the subatomica which is here, you know where she met kang the thing man She never did anything with irregular, so she should have just shrank forever. They should never been stopped Why did she stop shrinking? Never answered that below that is the quantum realm Maybe you can shrink in the quantum realm. So there's no cutoff point Which would be weird by the way in terms of physics Which is this but then what was the place hank found janet? Is that the subatomica the void or some other place? There are worlds here worlds within worlds It's a place outside time and yeah, so that's an example by the way His speech is a lot longer with a lot more pauses than that But I cut them much closer and then I just cut to hope to you know cover the blend basically Yeah, which uh by the way Editing the asoka episodes right now it is fucking annoying how many long pauses there are Yeah, between every sentence that they say just makes it really hard to edit And it makes it really hard to convey just how long those pauses are because You can't you can't play too much. Otherwise you get hit with copyrights. You got to try and Figure out exactly the optimal length, which I mean in this case. I think in throughout this video There's nothing longer than like five seconds maybe six I you mother fuck bullshit You're telling me that we have a grand total of earth That's a while Yep, tiniest smallest parts of earth then you keep shrinking until you go subatomic That's where scott and janet ended up on their respective journeys to complete their missions That is the world of the void the void is just the place you go when you're very very small scott managed to escape but janet kept on shrinking until she entered the subatomica Which is another world and yeah, you get clips later me trying to explain this to the people on efap without realizing Of course that they hadn't thought about this as much as I had And so it like vaguely made sense to me But you guys were just like what the fuck language are you speaking like what what is this? It's like i'm pretty sure this is what they want us to think. I don't know World in the world of the void a world with spooky invisible creatures and kang she uh She stopped shrinking at that point I guess only she then kept shrinking because she entered another world The bewildered nature of him a lot of the um the visuals I ever add in these are usually just ones because you you had context clips Anyway, so I was like oh well, I can probably put one of my more common visuals in there like there's a distinct lack of Boss nas is anyway Stuff in here because I like some of the anyways you put in He's my go-to for me saying anyway Yeah, usually deeper than the subatomica as she put it a place called the quantum realm Where a whole ass civilization is and if that wasn't difficult enough to understand You can access any of these worlds at any time and place on earth Even when you are on the other side of the fucking planet But none of these worlds within worlds adhere to time or space despite clearly operating with standard physics and expected spatial relations On top of events progressing in a linear temporal fashion and it supports human life And you're telling me all of these worlds and see you can you can appeal to like sci-fi But they just this is just the most pathetic and lazy attempt like they just didn't explain anything And it seems like from that clip from the um the assembled stuff Uh that they were gonna try at one point They were gonna give them quantum suits that accounted for how they could breathe and stuff But I'm sure they got thrown out early because they were like well, we need to show their faces all the time So how are we gonna do that? Exactly, so we can't do that just use normal suits I'm surprised they didn't opt to actually say we are wearing the masks and the helmets and stuff. They're just invisible Fuck it. Yeah, whatever These are accessible from each other. They are interconnected What in the fuck were you thinking the people who wrote this are why we have instructions on shampoo And how are you gonna convince anyone that Cassie made something that can map all of this We just need a map And then we can study and explore the entire quantum realm Does her map not adhere to time and space to the less they say This the better though to be honest We're getting worse and worse in the department of why the fuck didn't janet say anything now We have whole worlds beneath worlds that changes everything about our understanding of the quantum realm despite working on it with her She's also partially explaining things. How about you explain it all instead of giving us random tidbits janet Nope, that's the only thing they've got as writers is to reveal gradually stuff that Takes us all the way to the middle of the movie, you know It's like that's how it delays because we've got nothing else to do and it's so sad because there's so many things they could do You could have told them all about kang at the beginning of this film She said like I have to I didn't want to but I have to uh You know everything went wrong. I was gonna I was gonna tell you once we saw it out ghost But obviously the blip happened and then we saw it out thanos and Uh, you know, my mind got fucked with a little bit with all the quantum shit, but it's it's time I can tell you I'll be a lot more forgiving of that and you can get it all out of the way um But never mind because we that's the only thing they've got to tell us I'll handle this man. That's some harsh editing. We left them for about one minute on a cliff's edge I'm not gonna go quantum miles away and now we're in the quantum wasteland god. I hate this shot so much It's so bad. It's so gross to look at. It's so fucking ugly And uh, it it reminds me of like uh, oh, did you ever see the Lincoln park music video for in the end? Uh, yeah, I think so You know that would have been made in the 90s, right? Uh, I think early 2000s. Well, they're playing around with uh tg in that And uh, you know, it's not the focus and they like I said, it's so early on but just It's that same vibe of like look at us. We're we're in a weird alien world. It's like, yeah Yeah, sure you are I believe it, uh The matter of Going a little further than you can pull off I guess and so obviously not standing there But even the fact that the three of them are the shots composed this way. It seems so fucking generic Awful and this another world within a world and bill pope, uh, was the cinematographer for this as far as I'm aware Or the director of photography rather Janet. Look at this place. How the fuck long did it take you to get here? We just chopped out a whole ass day at least that's actually something that's worth mentioning I didn't put it in the video But there's so many talented people that are involved in this that makes like, you know Michael Douglas is an actor michelle pfeiffer as an actress pull rud as an actor The bill pope is dp and christoph beck with the Composer these people They're not shit You have to stand good. So what the hell happened is like it's disney. It's marvel. It's this gross blending machine that just makes people shit Well, and look how fake all of this is you really trying to convince me they're looking at or standing on anything but Look at it. Look at it I think your original line was green and you felt that you had to change it to blue I had I think three instances that I had to change because I I instinctively call it a green screen, but most of the time they blue screens these days I think more often they're blue. Yeah, and uh, You know, it's fine. You guys know what i'm talking about, but it's just too It's too awkward to look at and here at the same time It's like you kind of this much blue and then hear me say that they're sitting on a green screen like Why I think it's a matter of like why did he say green screen when it's obviously blue And is it because he thinks that all of them are cold green screens even if they're blue It's like it just cuts all that bullshit out. It's like no, I'm just used to calling it green screen Blue or the illustrious volumes. I could have chroma keyed it to make it look green damn There you go the easy solution screen and what was the direction here? Uh, yeah, miss lily We're gonna need you to look as though something's coming for you Something's coming right you know for a fact they had no idea what was gonna be here, so Just like just look look concerned and like maybe you're in danger, but also strong that you can take it no matter what And then eventually just like fuck it Just do something for you. It's a big old thing. Maybe we're not sure what it is, but it's coming You're feeling very confused scared and confidently strong, but also calm and content with your horrifying brave state Michael what whatever that is. It's great So janet is attacked by this quantum guy and everyone freaks out only she chops off his arm and they're friends now Put your fucking helmet on hope you cave clown and what's with the writing here If hope's beloved and long lost mother is being attacked by quantum boy here You bet your ass she's shrinking down and flying over whether she said i'll handle this or not Especially after this It's just basic shit she cares about her mum more than anything. She's gonna go and stop that from happening Stand there and watch. No, it's not happening Michael douglas just don't even bother to do anything. He's just like It's a good old matter of characters not being allowed to say what they absolutely would say or do what they absolutely would do Because tension providing suspense to an audience in any context means you are writing good Right, but really janet should have said. Oh, I have to beat this guy in a fair fight for us to get a ride He's actually a friend. Don't get involved and don't panic. It would make sense. You still have tension, but whatever Fucking dusty ass cliche It's friendly quite a ride Says the man who invented flying on the back of an ant Um answer a little bit different to the flying quantum space alien manta ray you plumb And I love that you love them here Oh, gee, that's you know in retrospect. It's like this guy's helping you even though you abandoned him Yeah, interesting. Do you think they'd have a lot of questions for here? Where did you go? What happened to you? Who are these people? What are we doing about the revolution? But no, they're not actually characters. They're just creatures that will provide us tools Yeah, do you think to ride? Yeah, well you ride on ants. I do like them. Yes, I like that too The dialogue is I'm partially convinced the writers think it's funny and it's like, oh Damn, you thought that was funny. Okay Also this visual dying on the vine I'm particularly happy with this one dying on the vine here. They need some spice some fire Yes Yeah, that's the kind of force that's far right away and I love me and your old michael there hanging on to his pulse for dear life A subatomic universe This changes everything we know about life evolution It really does change everything and yet it will change nothing about any commentary going forward in the entire movie Holy shit That guy looks like broccoli Quite seriously some of the most earth shattering information imaginable and you'll lose interest in it after seeing broccoli Also, janet clearly says keep your head down and hank has a mask he can put on But I guess he took it off to rant about life here and no one gives a shit You're doing a great job of staying low profile lads drink those I'll be right back No, it wouldn't change anything since life on earth and evolution on earth is the still the same as we know it Bro life functioning at the quantum level to this degree Changes everything about the origin of life and how we think anything works It just it just does the categorically There's a a lot of our systems are based on not having quantum vision like tiny tiny Quantum versions of everything we already know to be true and look at the composition of all these creatures These this this shit can't exist on earth or rather doesn't for sure And what does it mean that it can heal? What happens if we blow them back up? And can they procreate with humans? What does that mean for biology? Where do they come from? Well, how does this work? What is what is the genealogy? It's incredible. It's it's absolutely mind-blowing, but we don't really give a shit. We're moving on That's just how that works. So those are translation ooze drinks They let you understand presumably all language is spoken and janet simply says drink them Got to tell you that's nowhere near enough for me to do it But what the fuck ever at least it's just a thimble's worth eventually they figure out they can look at me carefully Planting life on an L yeah, but that would change everything we know about life if we found life on another planet Yeah, that we have to reset everything look at all their biology The it might match it might not it might change our understanding completely this certainly would look at those guys Yep, this is definitely something to study Indeed understand all languages now. That's neat. And then bill murray arrives janet van dyne I thought you were dead. He's been airdropped in courtesy of a green screen To record all of his lines conspicuously distant from everyone else at almost all times in terms of They're trying to ask you a silly distant janet's the only one that he seems to get anywhere near and Makes you wonder, but then you see all those scenes they filmed of him doing all kinds of things in different places It's like what the fuck happened guys For his help cryler we need your help after all we've been through together Just ask me tell me how can I help doesn't remind me of anything else Nor marvel's desperate attempts to keep audiences interested via legacy actors pouring what remains of this star power into this desiccated sunken corpse Really feels like they do that one pair movie or one pair project Yeah, one one pair movie you gotta get a legacy actor to play a small bit roll in any case He introduces himself and somehow you have murray and pfeiffer disagreeing on how to pronounce his name Officially Lord cry like now, so is it cryler or cry la are you fucking idiots cry like cry like that visual from We watched that recently. Interesting movie. Anyway, Bill Murray has heard about Ants. He's curious about Ants and what Ants even are. That's the conversation they have. He asks about Ants and whether they are in the quantum realm and Hank is like, no. And then he says, oh, okay. I guess you can say this is a thin setup for something later, but man, the dialogue is clunking. Okay, were you born a cunt or did it take practice? Why let this guy, who we clearly need help- I legit to this day have no idea what hope is trying to achieve with that one. I don't know. Why would you say that? Like that only stands to make things harder for you. Yep, from know that he wasn't mentioned at all by someone who is trying to convince him, she's his friend. Hope didn't used to be this dense. It's like she just wants to be a cock. Man, that's a Rick and Morty joke if I ever saw one, which does make some sense. Are you not human? Not technically, but yes. That space that the, uh, that shrimp, uh, brook makes is really funny. Yes. Why, what the fuck does that mean? You are anatomically compatible, but you're not human, I guess. How did you all come to be? We're really never going to understand any of this shit, are we? And boy, is it going to create some ethical issues later, but no worries, folks. Fun quantum movie go- You left all of us with him. How many people died because of you? Does your family even know who you are? So, this is kind of interesting. Krylar is saying that Janet abandoned the people of the quantum realm with someone, and we know he ain't lying because she not only ditched them here, she didn't mention any of this at all. Any assistance she could have provided these people was cut off by the fact that she tried to hide their existence in the first place. Though it does make you wonder why she would come to this guy for help when she seemingly left him for dead. So, he tries to capture them as he's in league with the conqueror of these lands. Things start to get a little tense. Janet offers to be taken in if Hank and Hope can be released, only for Krylar to say this. But you want them, so they're coming too, along with those other friends of yours. Seriously, what the fuck is with this absolutely clanking dipshit dialogue? I heard about them, but he did too, and he sent the hunter. But you want them, so they're coming too, along with those other friends of yours. I heard about them, but he did too, and he sent the hunter. Sounds like cliffnotes. You know, redrafting isn't a crime. Also, what could- Yeah, as you sort of find out later, it's that they had a set, and then they went back in and had him record extra shit and then try to stitch it all together to make it better when I think it makes it worse. It makes it worse for sure. It's just super clunky and confusing. Kind of, Hunter. A mechanized organism designed only for killing? Holy good goddamn fuck, we'll get to that. So things are looking pretty bad. Krylar's gonna sell them out to the Conqueror, and he was expected to be an ally. Well, yeah, so it's probably worth mentioning, right? When breaking this down, I was thinking about how this is gonna go. I could go buy the actual scenes, because of course we would have had two Cassie and Scott scenes by now in the actual movie, but I feel like it makes the flow a bit more awkward that I- some of them aren't even that long, like the Cassie Scott ones, and so it's like I just describe what happens and then move on instead of making it all flow as one big story, which feels like it just helps the pacing video. I've done this before in the other videos as well, when they have like an A plot and a B plot. Sometimes it's better to just commit to doing the A plot in full and then the B plot in full or vice versa. What happened? What happened to you? We thought against him. He can be very persuasive. Ah, so he probably had very little choice. It is interesting to have a guy who resents Janet because she left him to the fury of this Conqueror to then give us a hint that something valuable to him is held as leverage to force him to do these things. I wonder how- Just the way that Bill Murray like falls back when he gets kicked, it's clearly he's not actually pulling, he's just leaning back in his seat. Yeah, it's funny. Wait, what? Slow down. I thought maybe we could move- Oh, the first of many would be two different characters. Is there something that looked like Cassey or something? Wait, what happens to Kryla? Is he safe? Is he all right? Well, Hank in large numbers. Of course, the meme there is just that he was the most interesting thing to happen in this movie so far. I was like, you know, he's calling Janet out. Finally, someone is. But like, as you know, all the writing director I have to say about him is he made an evil bargain. He's a bad man. It's like, okay, fine. Yeah. The fleam creature and it throws Kryla away. We don't see him again. Okay, then that's that, I suppose. We start with all of our characters just shooting the bad guys and winning. You have two, count them two, geriatrics here, and yet the robot henchman can't shoot the geysers to save this. Sick, it's you then get this. What the fuck? The action scene is already pretty much over. Hank and Janet run into the ship and hope stands guard while they hotwire and pilot it. And by stand guard, I mean hope just stands there and shoots her little pew pew gun. The fucking wasp just stands there and shoots. She's capable. And so you could have had like a moment where she shrinks down, starts to fight, and like she's around that big fleam thing. And so like a tentacle is about to crash into her and she has to like roll out of the way and, you know, move to a different thing that's blown up because of his size and stuff. But it really did just opt to have her shoot. That's all they did. They're just like shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. Done, done, done. All of all kinds of combat both in flight and on the ground. On top of that, you have the shrinking and expanding technology. And I mean, they just, none of them can hit this static target. I feel like these scenes are made for people who enjoy water with this cereal. You know, the real psychopaths, the wet socks of people. So anyway, Michael Douglas then plunges himself elbow deep into slimy yellow quantum tentacle cock. Do you guys remember the MCU? I'm for some memory lane shit. So anyway, back to the bring it back. I know, I know. Those clips are a combination of like badass and fun. And those two things are just not in quantum any at all. A slimy yellow quantum tentacle cock ravaging Michael Douglas. That's what needs to happen to pilot the ship you see, because everything is all flimpy down here in the quantum world, except most stuff is just normal really. In any case, we can't. And like for anybody who doesn't know what I mean by that, it's just, everything's just functioning. There's nothing crazy or difficult to understand. You've got like ships, you've got just like regular sort of technology, you got regular like utensils, like they're kind of flimpy, but they're all legible. There's nothing strange about the way like even the bar itself, like as a whole place, it's just normal. There's a bar and there's chairs and tables. That's it. There's no confusion as to where people are going as well. It's all on one plane. Everyone's just walking around and it's like, yeah, it's a quantum world. You think me? Close out this side of the plot line without another banger exchange. Really? Him? He used to be charming. That guy? I was down here for 30 years, Henry. I had needs. Oh my God. Why? Why do we need this? Why? Who asked for this? Why? I get it. I've got needs too. I had dinner with someone a few times. What went wrong? She wasn't you, baby. Okay. This is like the fourth time. Why is everything so fucking chemistry-less? I had needs. So did I. It didn't work out. Why didn't it? Genuinely, I think that Loveness was like, that was so funny. He probably, yeah, he probably put the pen down and was like, witty me. She wasn't you. It's bad enough that everything is this dry when you have Janet sharing her sex capades for no reason at all. But on top of that, you took inspiration from fucking Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. They must have been funny or weird for you. It seemed like the perfect visual for that move. I thought we had the same problem. Yes. They weren't you, honey. We do be sinking low, eh? So, Sige, if a computer- Not that very good, yeah. Hope is there in one shot, right next to Janet, and then when Hank is rambling on and on, she disappears. Oh, the trouble of the quantum world. Evangeline Lily's role in the film has been reduced down. You know that no one caught it because you could easily fix that in post, but they just didn't. Exactly. Whoops. Well, I hope. So far, she can barely stay on screen. How about we get them all off screen and we go and visit Cassie and Scott? What have they been up to? Hope, Hank, can anyone hear me? Oh my god. Keep the helmet on, you fucking mop. But yes, apparently Scott is so far away. He cannot communicate with Hank or Hope. Points for trying, of course. We're okay. It's gonna be okay. You're saying okay too much. Okay, all right, okay. Well, it's because we are. We're okay. Oh boy, some top notch money. Money, funny, funny. What else we got? It's like we're camping. We love camping. We've never been camping. But we've always talked about it. Man, that felt like a straight up Paul Rudd joke. He did have writing credits on the other two. Maybe he can try to sneak something into this trainwreck. Though what's interesting here is not only her awful acting, it's that we're trying to shore up the fact that these two haven't had time to spend with each other. Something of a very sore subject for Cassie that she even somewhat blames Scott for. So you'd think that the direction here should be for her to get more and more angry until popping as she does. We love camping. We've never been camping. Only as Scott says we love camping, you can clearly see her nodding along to then complain. We've never been camping. And as if that's not confusing enough when he says, but we've always talked about it, she's nodding against. It is perfect. I still look like, he's like, hey, good one, Christy. Yeah, I just put the camera at him. Again, but we've always talked about it. Now, I know these movies get shot and reshot to death to then be torn up and glued together with Toe Jam and Chewing Game, so I guess it doesn't surprise me. I think the reason why I thought about that visual because what was it, Toe Jam, you said? Oh, Jam and Chewing Game, yeah. And just made me think about, yeah, just made me think about Beth making a collage out of horses. Trying to argue was perfectly normal. Yeah. So the hospital just let you walk out of there with horse parts in a bag. The film ended up this way, but still, how the fuck did it end up this way? Give it! Whoa, all right, calm down. What have we got here? Big ol' quantum jelly sun is attacking them for reasons, and Scott is going big boy mode to beat it. Kinda weird he's not going bigger though. Like, all the way back to regular big. But for this, I would imagine he should probably at least go bigger? What's that you say? This is his maximum size relative to this situation? Sure, fine. I'm very certain that's the case. And that is not a criticism that is banked on later. That's just, you get that on a repeat viewing. You know what I'm talking about. He goes much, much bigger. Should have used it for the jelly sun. And man, would have been so useful here if Cassie had a suit. And what if she had a suit that could also go big? You know, so that she could help save her father from what seems like a perilous situation. Would be real lame if it turned out she had a suit and she could go big. Don't face the mugs though. Yeah, looks at the camera. Yes, that's just the music that plays as well. He's so sad. There's a lot of, there's a lot of rabbit season visuals. It's one of the best Looney Tunes cartoons. Well, and with the structure of these videos, this is just a lot of implied criticisms because you know, the actual criticism can't come in until like an hour from now, at least in movies. So it's just like, yeah, it's fine though. It's where you say like it's fine, but the face seems like not fine at all. It's just a really easy juxtaposition. Yeah. Thoughts throws away the quantum jellyfish sun and everything is fine. That was weird. Yep, it's a Marvel movie. And it's that thing that guy was talking about on our anniversary thing. It's just the lack of sincerity. We can't just be like, that was horrifying. I'm okay. I made it. He has to be like, huh, that was weird. Oh, please. And then that thing is eaten by a big old different quantum manta ray. There's always a bigger fish. Right. Go big and punch it, you coward, you little fucking bitch. Punch the flash carpet. I'm going to be honest. I have no clue what's happening here. Oh, they exploded it. Wait, who exploded it? What? What? What the fuck, man? The quantum avengers are here? I guess. There's quantum people in the quantum realm. Oh, right. Yeah. But like they sometimes have laser faces or broccoli. Maybe more of the film will help me understand it. That's reasonable. Anyway, Scott and Cassie have been captured. And by the time we hit the next scene, they've been separated significantly. Cassie has ooze on her mouth and says this. Now, I've purposefully ripped the bandaid of ooze being translation ooze off as a reveal to really dig into just what the fuck this whole scene is. They would have come in together and been force-fed ooze together, but clearly they didn't want to show us a teenage girl being force-fed a foreign substance while gagging and begging them to stop. But they'll do it for the guy. So they teleported her not only ahead, but post-force feed. Meaning she can now tell Scott to accept it. And what does she say exactly? Is it dad? This drink allows you to understand them. Drink it. Or is it this ooze they are feeding you allows you to communicate with them? Or maybe it's this is translation ooze. Or is it as simple as drink this? And you want... Funnily enough, people were surprised I didn't put her saying drink the ooze in the selection of like bad acting clips. And it's like, to be fair, I don't... There's no like good acting from her. No, that's not good acting. The only one I think I would pick is when she's like tearing up after he says she's the only thing that he didn't mess up. Yeah, that's probably... I think the reason why it stands out so much is because it's just not a problem that Marvel has. They usually get good actors. Like the acting is rarely the problem with Marvel movies compared to DC, for instance. So she stands out as like distinctly bad. Yeah, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying like... It seems like everybody... It's not a shocking take. It seems like everyone agrees. Well, I think the reason why it's particularly awkward is it's like, you're not very good and the person you replace was good for a demanding scene that she only got one for. So why not just use her again? I'd say she's got an acting talent for golf. Well, the fact it's unbelievable that she's acting and they're like, oh, you know, she's a great golfer. What the... Why did you say that? Why didn't you compliment her acting? Understand them. No, it's this. Seriously, why is the dialogue this horrendously bad throughout? Who said you could touch things as dangerous as a keyboard or a crayon? Yes, that's character in the film. So the scene continues and Cassie says nothing else, despite of course currently being... They're the MoDoc and they need their own show. Yeah, Bebon MoDoc is like a tag team. That'd be great seeing Bebon MoDoc go on adventures in the Quantum Realm. One able to explain everything to Scott easily and the creatures here all know this and are invested in that very thing happening. Instead, we get shouting, chanting, confusion and a, uh, ceremony for all of this. Where do I even begin? Just hand him a cup like you fuckers do in the bar. Like a normal, like legit, why? Why with the jug? Why? Yeah, I don't get it. We all know why. It's to come across as weird and creepy and strange as possible before being normal. That's the joke. That's always the joke. Except the problem is that it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't it just be like a little cup? The only, it's like, they rely on it quite a few times. Like, oh, doesn't this look crazy? Well, it's not actually, it's kind of normal actually. Yeah. Person would. What's with all the stupid chanting? Why do any of this? Like, I know they're saying, drink the ooze, but why chant that? Why do any of this weird shit? In seconds from now, they're about to act much more normal. It's that really lame half-committal to being weird or alien. They just give up the longer the time code goes. The meme, of course, is to make it all seem like it's much worse than it actually is. Like they already did with Janet and the Tizami-Arm man. Oh my god. Time and place. And you did it at my birthday dinner. Don't know why. I think that popped up in someone's YouTube video as a reference in and of itself. And I was like, that'd be funny. After Scott drinking the ooze. Why would you swallow my dude? You clearly don't want to. I just do that. That I was facing. Because why would you swallow is a great question. Because it's like, did you, did you want to? Your mouth is open. You could just spit it. You could just close your mouth. You could just spit it out. Like they're not forcing you to swallow. That was just so disappointed in Scott. You clearly don't understand why you should. And they clearly didn't even cover your nose. You can breathe through that. Like it's not exactly hard to just not drink the bullshit. Also, what is this absurd pouring jug thing? The bar had shot glasses. Does the same thing. Makes way more sense. Why the fuck can't you quantum cunts just be consistent? The joke, of course, is that they're absurdly normal once he takes the ooze anyway. What are you doing here? Where are you from? Why is he drinking a liter of that shit when Hope and Hank needed a thimble's worth? Oh, whatever. What's next? Hello. Hi. Did you drink the ooze? Ah, finally. An alien that looks real fucking weird, but he's super chill. Been looking to see this for a while. What's he all about? I am, Beb. You just drank me. What? Do you need some more ooze? Here, I can pour some ooze into your home. Fucking elmate. Steady on. So you're telling me that this guy, Veb, can produce ooze and when creatures drink it they can then communicate with everyone? And there is a need for this, I imagine, because there are many different creatures growing and evolving in the quantum world and they came together but couldn't communicate well. And so they lucked out in having this one creature- In retrospect, I don't even know why they connected it to Veb specifically. I'm not sure why they connected it to Veb because it only creates problems. You know, like it just could have been a substance they have down there that does that. But again, it's just he really likes being drunk, I guess. He's a wacky guy. I mean, I like it. I really like Veb. He's such a... Look at him. What an interesting design he is. You like him like Marge likes potatoes. Ah, it's just, he's super unique and chill and he's a cool lad. I like to produce a liquid that when consumed solves that exact problem. Well, gosh darn, how fucking useful. And so now, presumably as a quantum-wide industry, Veb sells his ooze to bartenders the world over in order for them to serve drinks again. I want to see that movie of him traveling the world selling- There's a little Veb truck filled with kegs that he gives them out as he goes along. Yeah, and he sings a little song as he's traveling the quantum realm. He doesn't do it for the money. He does it because he knows it helps people. He does it for the love of the craft. Yeah. It passes by, and so if Veb were to die, we can no longer provide translation liquid to the world. Hopefully, there are more Vebs. Can we harness the power of the Veb for Earth? Do Scott or Cassie realize they are sitting on what is probably the most significant communication barrier solution in human history? Can we pocket some Veb and study it in the above world? It'd be so cool to know what would happen if you actually solved language barriers. I feel like everything would change. I feel like that transforms existences on this planet. Because it may not seem like it at first, but the thing is there are so many references that require knowledge of other languages in everyday life. Being bilingual is super beneficial as a skill. That's super useful. And you actually wonder what we would settle on for what languages we would even use if we were fluent in all of them, everyone was. Or I'm not sure. I guess the way it works is you understand all of them. Yeah, but what happens if you're born and then you just grow up surrounded by everybody speaking a language, what would the language be called to? You'd have to get Vebs stuff to infants quickly. But then would that mean that? I guess I would say what language would they learn? Because the language, you're taught your language, but it's like whenever you drink Veb, you default to hearing everybody in your native language. But what does it mean to have a native language if everybody can understand everybody? You know what I mean? Yeah, it makes you wonder if the kids would then just be making noises, but that we hear exactly what they intend for us to understand. I guess so, but then what happens when everybody's dead and it's only ever been people with Veb? Well, the crazy part, I guess, is that this probably can't work in terms of until we figure out mechanically how it does work because there are a lot of pieces of language that require the context of the speaker. Exactly, yeah. So it can't just be as simple as they speak and you understand. Well, yeah, how does a word like mould exist? How does that come to be? And that's why a translator makes more sense that's like in you, because it just gives you the best approximation. It doesn't give you like, this thing seems magical, right? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Here, about how amazing this is, will Scott be able to understand all creatures now? Could be a fun payoff in future. Big hole, how many holes do you have? I'm sorry, is that a personal question? I don't have any holes. Pretty weird question, but the man is passionate about holes, I suppose. Can't judge too harshly. Yeah, seven holes. Yeah, that's right. How did you know that? Okay, solid joke, but it is like in that every other person. Also, people being like, you know, it's more than seven, if you consider it as like, obviously you can change the amount based on your fucking rig, just shut up. And I got down. Leave the joke alone. And we see down here also has seven holes and similar sized holes. But hey, David Dasmalchian's doing a fun performance. And it's far. How do they get the use from if he doesn't have holes? No idea. No idea. Better than some of the jokes to come. How did you know that? He's quasi, he's a telepath. You can read minds. You know, you don't need to be a telepath to guess the amount of holes in a species almost identical to yours. But then again, maybe Scott was talking about how they knew his name, though he knows they could have gotten that from Cassie. And wait, what the fuck did you just say? He's a telepath? You have telepaths? Please stop thinking. Thinking that. I'm trying. No, not very hard. And I think you look weird too. Dude, you've had like five seconds as a Charles Xavier wannabe and you're already pissing me off. Why? I've always imagined people like Charles Xavier would hear semi-regularly things that would offend him, but he wouldn't hold it against a person. Well, that's essentially the point that you're about to make. If you're a telepath and you've been a telepath your whole life, surely you're used to hearing things that you don't want to hear. Yeah, and you need to account for that. Like he acts like this is the first time it's happened, but he'd be doing this all the time. He'd either need to just ignore it or like, I guess, be able to control when he listens to what people are saying. It's just a shit joke. Yeah, because it's, um, I think it's like the first tier of thinking you're smart. It's like, he thinks everyone's gross because he hears all the things that they don't want people to hear about. Haha, isn't that clever? Kind of. And I know that people are like, yeah, that is kind of clever and funny. It's like, no, it would be, it would be well beyond that at this point. That would have been like earlier on. Now he'd be at the point of understanding that's just humanity. And he does it himself and that it's really on him to not point it out about other people. Not fair. And it makes the situation worse every time as it does here. Path. Yeah, it's entirely unfair. Stop thinking that. Oh, yeah, sure, bro. Thanks. Yeah, very helpful advice. And we're not to think the thing you don't want them to think. Chances are, these people will all be thinking precisely what they wouldn't want you to hear. Especially when you tell them what not to think about. Chances are, you're all going to be thinking whatever you least want Buffy to hear. Hell yeah. It's a question, of course, of mental discipline. See? And that was done in the bloody late 90s. You've lived with this. Presumably a whole lot. Try and get some Buffy and Angel in every video. Every. Yeah. I think I failed so far at least. I don't think I have. Life. Which, by the way, are you just a telepathic species? Because, man, governments would absolutely want to get their hands on you. And I imagine we're just going to wash over the whole reading people's minds without their permission being a bit morally abhorrent thing. Probably not something this movie's ready to deal with. I don't think you look weird. I think you look really cool. No, no, you don't. I know I don't. I just, I'm nervous. I just came out. I hope you know that you're the twat in this situation. Oh, that's a funny guy. He is. And I actually get a sense that Scott, the character there is just like, I'm cornered. I can't do anything. You're reaching into my head and telling me I'm being mean. I, what are we to do? Be kind. And you're essentially reaching into his mind only to complain about what you heard. In fact, I would kindly like for you to fuck off at this point. Unless, of course, you need to clear their names. What's Earth? It's also where we're from. We should torture them. Why are you always trying to torture people? How the fuck are you all this? A very late edition, because we watched a time to kill like a week before this came out. We just thought that laugh was so funny. I was like, I've got to find a place for it. And yeah, just it's more of a commentary on the film itself. It's just like, look at you. You think you're so funny. Let us torture him. You have a bloody mind reader. Just ask whether he's a spy and read. Do things come out of your holes. Stop asking about his holes. Some of us have holes. What are you doing here? This is getting pretty stanky. Fast paced edgy, but for kids dialogue and the straight talking guy who's just trying to make sense of his wacky friends. All of this could have been solved ages ago if you lads had one brain cell between you. What a mess. Scott and Cassie then struggle to explain they are from a world above this one called Earth and they are not spies. Well, this is Earth, but it's very small Earth right here. I get big, I shrink, you know, but I wrote a book about it actually. Yeah, you really need to make him mention that because we're still doing the narcissism angle. It ain't going to make sense no matter how many times you try it. We shrunk and right now we're really small. So we're small. Okay, they're telling the truth. Wow, especially weird version of telepathy when you've got like it alerts everyone. It's like wow, wow, wow. I'm reading your mind. It's like a foreign notification. Yeah, couldn't with that, but it's fine. You do you, I'm sure there's no rush. It doesn't matter. You come from above. Oh, here we go. Like him. Oh dear. Look at this lady with the gear and the makeup trying a little hard there. I feel like that line just really annoys me because it just feels like the shittiest version of that line. He will burn the world to find you. That sucks. Try harder. Like write something more interesting than that. You know what I mean? She's way too dramatic as well. Crosses cringey. Because you know what they're trying to go for with the telepath guy is like, you know, and then he turns up and he's like, Hey, what are you guys doing here? Like, whoa, he's normal. What's going on? And then she comes in as this like reject of a B movie fantasy. Like you come from above. It's like, what are you? You're normal too. Stop pretending you're not. Well, it's just it feels like you're performing. You're not like a character in this world. Yeah. Because the I don't know the actor's name, the one who's playing a telepath guy, but he was in the good place, right? And yes, summer. Yeah. He's he was really good in the good place. He's a. Well, I like him and what I've seen him in. It's just obviously he's considered more of the wasted talent in the MCU. I think that that's fair to say. Because yeah, he's quite good in the good place. But here it's like, what can you do with any of this? Yeah. Bad material. The conqueror. OK, since we don't yet know who this conqueror is, we can't know exactly what his power levels are, nor his level of control. But for the sake of the argument, why not assume he's extremely powerful and can move with the power of portals? Tryhard over here just said he will burn the world to find anyone from above, implying not only that there have been several instances of people from above being captured in the past, it makes you wonder when they picked them up in the first place. The first question laser face man should have said is, are you from above? And then they go, yes. He goes, OK, bye. Yeah, see you. And that's it. Or kill them. I don't know. It depends on whatever your values are. But the fact that they've dragged them here, she hasn't asked about this the whole time, by the way. She's been waiting just like, doesn't see that urgent, you know, even though you're all about to get massacred. But it's fine. But that he will be here at any moment. He will hunt these people, which means they all need to get the fuck out of here. Right. We discover they are a rebellion of sorts and they fear the fuck out of him. So I can only imagine the first thought when learning who these two are is to run. But hey, there's not much Scott and Cassie can do. They are essentially captives. Also, it's kind of amazing that the crowd lose complete interest once they discover Scott and Cassie aren't spies. First of all, they've established- Makes you wonder what would have happened if they'd said they are spies. They skew them, rip them into shreds. Who knows. Ablished that these two are a liability regardless of that. But apparently, none of them give a fuck that these two come from a world with entirely different rules, species, and technology that sits above their own. A world they know nothing about. One of the obvious questions would be like, do you guys know why everyone here turned to dust a while back? It's like, we do actually, yes. We know why that happened. And you could ask us about it if you're interested, I guess. You might be thinking, well, Mauler, how do you know they think Scott and Cassie don't know anything about anything? Well, let's just say I have a theory. They don't know anything about anything. Uh-huh, sure, man. They're only a deep source of existential exploration with more answers to the nature of the universe than you likely even have access to. But yeah, they don't know anything. So they let them go because there's nothing to do. You'd think they'd have some urgency with the whole impending doom thing, but no, it's fine. Is that building alive? Yours are dead? Uh, I appreciate the attempts at humor, but most of the buildings in this universe of theirs are dead, too. How do you think jokes work? That characters just say things that make no sense to themselves and we all laugh at how silly everything is? Fucking stale Rick and Morty leftovers. Which, by the way, I'm pretty sure was the goal just everyone's like, the buildings in their world aren't even dead at all. Yeah, exactly. Don't think about it too much. What a great joke. I just want to go home. At least you still have a home. I hate that line so fucking much. It's like, what do you want to do? Like, just go, sorry, I shouldn't have brought up homes. That's my bad. Yeah. Piss. Looks like Shadow of the Hedgehog here is about to burst into glorious song. Conqueror, burn your homes. Our stories. All right, calm down. They still need to know how to get home. There's no need to wait. What do you mean he burned your stories? Like, he burned down your library? Or are you doing a thing? Like, a building is a story? A person is a story? And I guess when someone dies, they can't be a story? Can you tell their story or...? I'll be honest, I don't even care. He built his citadel and the bones of our people. Yeah, okay. That's awesome. How do they get out of here? You want them gone, remember? And they want to leave. Found others on the run. They gathered who we could to fight. That's never enough. She does eventually stop talking and then Cassie has an idea. Dad, you're an Avenger. They need help. It's so funny too. It's like, what is Cassie's goal? Like, let us help them. How? It's like, we'll kill this Conqueror guy. Get this guy. He's called the Conqueror. He's apparently horrifying, but we can do it. What I need to do is get you home. She want to help. So what's happening here is that Cassie is having baby ogre brain where you react to everything instantly with no knowledge of the situation while demanding that everyone agree with your correct position. Basically, Twitter. We don't know anything about this place. I mean, I don't even have time works down here. Ah, the first of several good points. Scott has no... It's so weird. Like, the writers are capable of making this position, but then they shit on him for it. They're like, nah, you're in case. Even though it's like... Forget now. He's so right. And, you know, the ultimate conclusion at the end of the film is him going, Cassie, you know, help me understand. The people need help. This is supposed to be a step in the wrong direction here from Scott. Faces to discover just how much time is passing here to be with or any other area of the quantum realm. This could mean his loved ones are dying without him or that he's rapidly aging in a trapped time zone. Have we been gone for 10 seconds? Or have we been gone for 10 years? Think about your mom right now. Thankfully, they've written Scott smart enough to understand how this has affected the world before. Oh, God. It's like... It's like if they presented this to me in their little writer boardroom thing and they're like, ain't that great? And I'd be like, yep, that's what Scott would say. And they go, no, no, no. I mean, like, it sounds convincing, but he's so wrong. Like, what? The man cares for his family first and remembers Cassie's mother. Granted, the stepfather was completely forgotten about, but at least the mom got a mention. The remaining seconds Cassie can spend with her could very well be slipping away. You imagine. Don't use mom as an excuse. You just don't care. Yeah. Don't use caring about the mother of your child as an excuse to not get involved in a conflict. You don't understand a thing about and are likely making worse by getting involved in. Who cares about your mother, Hank, Janet, Hope, or the surface, or even finding out if you've been permanently damaged by being here at all? Who cares about escaping in order to tell the world about these people and to save them from this conflict in the first place? But ultimately, fuck you, Scott, for caring about your daughter first, for trying to get her to safety. What a selfish man you must be. Just because it's not happening to you doesn't mean it's not happening. Absolutely painful. Do you ever get uncomfortable, living so far up your own ass? Do you look at me? It's actually baffling. The writers decided to make Cassie Lang, the cute, fun, supportive, and honestly awesome girl from the first two movies, into a complete sack of hydraulic cringe. She's somehow beginning to overcome the foul energy. For those who don't know, cringe is bad. Hydraulic cringe is much worse. Yes, of course. Yeah, it's very straightforward, I think. Gee, of several other modern, wonderful characters bestowed upon us in the Disney media empire. You're doing great, aren't we, guys? So many great characters. But why? Why would you do this? Why do you have so many spare chromosomes? Why do you want to write insufferable cunts? I don't want you wasting your life. At least I'm still trying to do something with mine. If your brain exploded, would it even mess up your hair? She's disappointed in you. I got that, yeah. Thank you. Do you mind? You dumpy, fuckle, nitlit mushroom? This man is so rude. So rude. It is rude. Trying to leash his daughter in from having a bloody milkshake-fuelled brat attack that could cost them their lives and you have the temerity to reach into their heads where you are absolutely and obviously not fucking welcome. Temerity, by the way. Underrated word. The cool word. Yep. And share your thoughts. Eavesdropping is bad enough even without the stealing thoughts from people bit, you dopey-shot. That name. Janet. Van Dyne. Where is she? That's what we're trying to find out. You know her? So it turns- Where is this energy when she finally gets to meet Janet or at least as close to Janet at the end of the film? Yeah. Of like, wow, you ass. You ruined everything. You ran away. It would have actually been pretty interesting for the, you know, Kang to be defeated and then for her to be like, you know how many people we lost, right? And you did it why? Well, because you wanted to hang out with your daughter again. That's nice for you that you got to escape. Yeah. You could have just pictured Janet and be like, let's go, let's go, let's get out of here. Let's just go. Yeah. So Trihard recognizes the name Janet and orders the evacuation. Take them as far away from here as you can. All right. If you're looking for Janet, he's looking for you. You already said he was looking for them. You literally said this. You come from above. So he is hunting you. He will burn the world to find you. So he was very much looking for them but now he's super very much looking for them. Maybe. Or maybe you cut this film together with a blender, a shoe and some cheese. Regardless, it would seem there is a hum on the air as the enemies approach. We recommend smiling friends, by the way. You should all check it out if you haven't. Soldiers are arriving from the Conqueror's Army. This is bad news for everyone. So Trihard lets us know what she thinks. You led them straight to us. It's so funny. What a stupid fucking lie. Perhaps when we're a mistake, Cassie and Scott were kidnapped, brought to this settlement and interrogated, only to then be questioned further when saying they might be able to help but also that they want to go home. To then earn themselves this absolute banner of a line. You led them straight to us. No, they didn't. You weapons grade redditor. This doesn't bode well for Trihard's brain, what little there may be. She can now comfortably join the ranks of several great moments in media, such as Vader chasing Obi-Wan Kenobi across the galaxy to finally reach him and say, Have you come to destroy me Obi-Wan? You're the one that arrived here. You're the one that came here. I will do what I must. This is what? Disney just belting out classic after classic. Well, time to run everybody. Probably time for Cassie to suit up as well, but as we've seen time and time again, she most certainly does not have her suit. Man, whoever's organizing this must really want Cassie and Scott dead. Look everybody, an army of robots to kill and feel nothing about. I can't wait to see a collection of nuts and bolts fall to the ground when- What? Why is he sludge now? She slapped him with a stick and he turned into a Disney product. Robots made of sludge? Sure, I guess. No idea why, but whatever. Should probably use that. Wow, I just noticed as well. His laser is like, uh- It bounces? He's doing like the Omega Beam thing. Yeah. That's why you should use it a lot more. Yeah, god damn. On the dropships, burn whatever. Scott and Cassie then spend the next 30 seconds escaping death very narrowly. Just several moments where luck decided they live a little longer. Or main character status. Either way, Scott is just refusing to put that helmet on, eh? Just leaving yourself wide open. Dude, I can't help but feel sorry for the composer right now who has to cram Assemblance of the Ant-Man theme right into that- That's 30 Simpsons references so far. Not bad. Three seconds of fighting because of course you have to. It's Ant-Man's first significant multiple men fight in the movie. But holy fuck is that theme crushed. And they just keep on doing that bullshit with the helmets coming up and down. We all know it's to make sure you see the actors, but god damn. Any way you can facilitate that need without making it seem as though nobody wants to live? Oh, wow. So like these living buildings or whatever can take down the incoming ships with one shot? You could just stand around, lads. You'll probably win. Either do that or run your evacuation when you first mentioned the dangers. That would have been neat. So, Tryhard starts using his really cool stick to kill all the robots, and as the audience struggles to understand the stakes, she is struck by laser wire and all seems lost. Especially when seeing Cassie's reaction. Just, uh, not really feeling much of anything specific there, are ya? Paul Rudd on the other hand does resignation, likely due to having decided to save this lady, despite what it may cost him, to then reach confusion, shock, concern, and panic as he realizes Cassie is gone. The point, however, is that Cassie has indeed ran off to go and save Tryhard. I, uh, let's take a look at that, shall we? It was funny showing my, uh, my sister that she found it absolutely shocking that this would have been, like, sort of released the... Oh, yeah, because it's a promotional thing. It's like, you know, you're putting your best foot forward and it looks awful. And I still don't understand how, why didn't they just get someone in a suit to run? Why, why didn't they just do that? Why would you CG it? Just get her to run. It's less work, and it looks better. And you can cut it so that there's no problem. Just have her on your soundstage and then lose her in the background, get taken care of, have her run. That is it. And again, I mean, it's worth pointing out as well, like throughout this whole battle, there is an astounding lack of visual clarity. It's so fucking muddy. Yeah. Like the colors are really desaturated. And it's, it's like everything, it feels like it's hard to make out any of the details. And it's kind of needs to be that way. Because if you could make out the details, you'd notice how bad it is. I mean, it's something that, um, you have to slow down to notice it. But when, uh, Scott and Cassie are running away and all of the blasts are happening, like when there's flashes of light, it's like you can see, it's like an outline around them of the original background that they were running on that would have been on the stage. The, what's it called? The volume? Yeah, the volume before they changed their mind partway through and changed it. It looks so bad. And yes, of course, a classic meme here. And part of what I thought was the strength of it, of course, was just, uh, I can, this is almost like a setup for later jokes that whenever I show quickly some of the CG related to masks or sizing and stuff, I could just play his laughing relatively quickly. Fuckin' hell, this franchise is impossible to underestimate. So Cassie hits the guy who's on Tryhard and then she takes her helmet off, only to put it back on, because I guess some people might not know this is Cassie Lang and Girl or whatever. Isn't Wasp already Ant Girl kind of? She fucks up the fight and Scott's saying- We'll say Lord Ant People running around and it's just, uh, I guess in a sense that it makes sense to give Hank and Wasp and Janet their suits, but at the same time, I guess you don't want to, because it's just like, God, everybody's just add, everybody's just doing add stuff. Gotta be careful. Who's here by doing a jumping attack right at the last moment? The animation. It's so ugly. For fuck's sake, does it get worse? Cassie then talks about how- Oh, and yes, it's worth mentioning, when I say it doesn't get worse, there's a very, very subtle Modoc face right there. I guess there was. And I think at the beginning of the video, when I say, when, uh, Wanda says, is this really happening? I think there's another very subtle Modoc face there as well. I mean, people should already have gleaned this, but the way that these videos work is that it's all chronological, and like it's very, very, very, very rarely will any visual be used that's later on in the video, which can actually make it challenging at the beginning, because it's like, oh, it'd be really good to like have that visual from later on, but you just gotta show some restraint and use, uh, only from what you have so far. And, um, yeah, these are all very subtle, little like Easter eggs, but also, as a friend just said, that that's the reason why there's no EFAP clips until Modoc's revealed, because we don't want anybody, anybody who hasn't seen this film and doesn't know a lot about Modoc, you know, the thumbnail doesn't necessarily give it away. It's, it's kind of, you know, it's a dumb fucking face, but when you see him in all of his splendor upon intro, it's quite a thing. And of course we could have used his face up to this point for different reactions, but we're like, no, we're gonna wait until he's actually in it. And then, uh, that just reflects everything else. We don't want to use visuals from ahead of time so that it all hits you for the first time as you go. Oh, shocking it is that she has a suit. I have a suit! Yeah, I noticed. And I noticed that you didn't put that suit on here, here, here, or here. In fact, neither of you even tried to escape Team Quantard when they captured you. You know, going really small and hiding behind a rock to then dig yourself a hole in the floor might actually save you. But hey, I didn't design the tech, so what do I know? You don't look like idiots at all. Scott then teaches Cassie how to utilize the attacks as an ant person, which is neat, only it has a distinctly funny tone to it. It fucking blew my mind when I checked out the audio commentary and that the creators themselves said, pretty awkward we have this, you know, at the same time that everyone's getting massacred around them, but you make it work. Yes, somehow you make it work. And it's like, I feel like you highlighted that because, you know, it doesn't work. You know, they shouldn't be joking when a war is happening and it's quite drastic for the very people that Cassie's invested in, just doesn't work. But when everyone around them is being slaughtered. You see what I did? No, you're like this small. I jumped into hatch. Bit weird to show Cassie is invested in saving these people from annihilation to the point of getting herself almost killed with her father saving her to then be lied to. I know how to do it, Dad. I messed up on the timing. So anyway, the mind raper detects an incoming, not sure what he's detecting here since he's a mind reader of people. Seriously though, what is he? How is he detecting Modoc? How? He's a mind reader of people right in front of him. I guess I don't know. He just catches it in his peripheral like mind. I just think that they wanted to make it one of the main characters that could point out, but really you could have had laser face guy run up to her and say he's coming. Or something like that. Exactly. But no way he's detecting a ship more than a mile away, right? Or a person. Well, you all knew we'd get here at Sunboy. You're the only one. This section was particularly fun for visuals. It was fun scripting too because it was for me like the first time I can... This is the most absurd shit. Sometimes I think that you might think this in chat. You're a bit desensitized. We've seen so much of him. But when you first see this creature, I remember the first time I saw him was because there was a tiny bit of him in the first trailer. Yeah, that's right. But like it was so quick that people didn't even believe the image was real. I don't know if any of you in chat right now were on the real BBC episode where I put it on the screen and we were like... The people in chat were like, that's not real. And then I went to the actual trailer itself and paused it. I was like, it's real. That's him. Fucking shocking. I mean, it is kind of... It is like bags... It's unbelievable, isn't it? Really, that this could make its way into its $200 million production that this was considered acceptable. Wild. You all knew this was going to happen. Yeah, sorry. Something I'd say about the visuals here is that I think this was the main portion of the video where there'd be times when I was doing stuff like before or after where I would have a visual and think like, maybe I'll save that one for later. Like I wouldn't feel confident necessarily using it when it could be used later. This was the point where I basically decided whatever I think is like the best visual, this is the time to use it. This is the part to... Because especially with like how... This part's really funny. Like it's meant to be like really funny and just sort of like letting loose about how hilarious this is. So it seemed like it would be a good idea to essentially use all of the best visuals I could think of for this section and to use a lot of them. Like not hold on anyone for too long, get a bunch of variety. This was... It took a while to cut this portion but I think it turned out really well. And the Quantards begin to escape and this creature narrowly misses several strikes on both Cassie and Scott only to then finally reveal himself to the world. I've been waiting a long time for this. What? A destiny you cannot escape. So this is Modoc, a well-known character from the comics reimagined for the movies and in this adaptation he is Darren Cross. If you remember at Mem 1, Darren Cross? He got sucked down and... Yeah, when I know what the next project's gonna be that there's a particularly funny thing that's happening on Open Bar, you've had real busy hours like I gotta snatch them and put a video. But into the quantum... Trigger's reactions to things are quite funny. Elm Kang found him. Oh yeah, that was... I guess saved his life and so he's literally ahead with tiny flu moms and legs. Oh, fuck off! No! The rival and enemy in Ant-Man 1 all those years ago. Darren? Surprise to see me. Now, these Simpsons jokes, this was a while in construction so I was like, I've gotta figure out a way to make some consistent but repeating jokes with just Modoc and... Homer's screaming came to mind quite early on in terms of just like, that seems like a really appropriate reaction. And then I was like, and there's loads of them and so I just went hunting for Simpsons screams. The Hobo ones. So then I tried to order them such that the first one is a very straightforward scream but by the time you hit the last one it's like dynamically edited. And you know, it's... Even the one that takes a little bit for... You need to be a Simpsons fan to understand why I edited the way, you know, the die-diet one. Like... Yeah, that one is pretty good. He screams when he sees Modoc with a basket up but then the basket out. And I remember Rags was laughing at it. I was like, so hopefully that works whether or not you know the reference which I think has a double layer of working then as well. But uh... Going for home with screaming makes a lot of sense because he just screams a lot. There's like... There was as many as you would need to make it a running gag compared to if you picked other... That is just appropriate. Like, look at this. It's a scary image. Yes. What the fuck? Like actually what the fuck? I became the ultimate weapon. Ultimate... You beca... What the fuck is happening to me? Why did they do this? Why did they do that to film? Did they lose a bet? Did they need to launder money? Did the mob capture someone's family? Why? Why is Darren this? That's nice. How did it even happen? Why did they do this to Corey Stoll's face? Darren is dead! There is only... Modoc! Stop by begging you to stop. That is you. They're trying to be sinister and it's just... What the fuck? This is just funny. Stop your ass with this global chumpling lips. Fucking stretch down baby rage. Humpty dumpty hamble thumb. What the fuck were you thinking? It just cuts off like we have in any way agreed for it to end. For that sin to simply sling away. So bad. Tryhard and the Mindtoucher are captured along with Cassie and Scott somehow. They could have gone tiny, split up and made it difficult as hell for Modoc to even find them or they could have gone big and punched him in the face. I mean he is mostly so. What if they punched him in the face? That might work. But they surrender for some reason. Great! Perhaps it's time to go back to the world of Hope, Hank and Jannity. What's after Scott and Cassie? We have to find them. And on that I was actually going to say me and Frank might check out these... We've had some super chats in and since we don't want to get confusing with doing catch-ups for streams that are minis that are also not with rags that you would hear. It's going to get complicated. So we'll try and cover these within this stream itself. There are a couple of portions in the video that probably are. That there are stories to tell, but I guess we could just jump to those parts. Sure. The one that sticks out is the Socialist ants Soviet Union thing. Yeah, there's a bit of a story for that one. There's kind of a story there. Because I can't remember what it was, but I think it was just as we were working on it that I think it was floated. Wait, was it... Did you come up with that one? Or was that... I'd know that we were talking about it. Like if I... I'm pretty sure you made the joke of them arriving with that theme. The interesting thing was that I got hit with copyright the first time around testing it. Yeah, because the joke originally was yeah, just play the Soviet Union like National Anthem while the ants are attacking, but get it ladder and ladder and ladder until the audio starts clipping because that's really funny. Yeah, and that got hit with copyright. And so overlaid the flute, visual recorder vision, whatever, and you know, fucked around with it so that it can't be claimed by anybody. It's just... But it's recognizably the Soviet theme. The amount of jokes I've seen in videos with that, I was like, how the hell did I get hit with copyright? Like, I didn't realize that people actually like... And people like, yeah, who copyrighted? It's like that's the thing I don't remember, but I didn't check because I just immediately fixed it, but it must be one of those situations where YouTube's DMCA system or copyright infringement system is just fucked to the point where you can upload something that's like you know, publicly available and then claim other videos that use it. Which makes you an extremely piece of shit person, by the way. Making the change with the... The... What is it's like the recorder version of it and then mixing it in? I still think that works pretty well. Yeah, the recorder stuff always works. It's just automatically funny. I don't know, there's just something really funny to me about playing the Soviet Union like National Anthem and it getting ladder and ladder and ladder as the ants go because I think it just emphasizes the absurdity of socialist ants. It's like a concept that this film presented. What we can do, if you will play it, but on very low volume and if anything comes to mind that you want to talk about, we can, but while it's playing, I'll just read out Super Testament Anthem. Something I have to do. Actually, I know there's something that's probably worth mentioning is like the challenge involved in... As we were working on it, we were waiting desperately for the... For the assembled for this film. Yes. It just kept getting... It kept getting delayed and delayed probably because of all the stuff having to do with that. For those who don't know, some of my most valued quotes to do with the construction of MOM was from the assembled MOM behind the scenes thing. We learned a decent chunk about how things were made, including of course the second act, third act and the hymn talk, all this stuff about how the script was made was in the assemble. And it's absolutely insane. I don't know how long we'll be able to get more of stuff like that before they stop because it's the most embarrassing shit. No, no, no, no. I'm talking specifically about commenting on the construction of the script. Why the hell did they let him do that? Oh, yeah, because it's strange, right? You think that the assembled is meant to be essentially the opportunity for them to essentially make themselves look better in terms of all of the work that goes into making films because a lot of work does go into making films. And the thing is, in these behind the scenes things, you get a lot of appreciation for the set designers, costumes, visual effects guys, even with the crunch and everything like the designers and actors as well. You get to look at all of the hard work of everybody and then you get the really embarrassing quotes about the writing from the writers because that's where the Michelle Pfeiffer's Unforgiven was, that was from the assembled. And the assembled came out like, I think it came out like two weeks before we finished this. Absolutely nightmare. Had to rewrite the process for that. Actually, yeah, I suppose I could talk about that. It's that the video is done and then assembled comes out, which by the way, it was delayed. We believe anyway, I think it's a pretty strong theory because they weren't sure about it being promoting I don't know if you can his name, Active for Kang. Jonathan Majors. Yeah, it's it's really clear because as I was watching it, there was this part where because it opens with them talking basically, oh, yeah, we're going to make like Lord of the Rings and Star Wars, but Ant-Man, you know, all that shit. And then it starts to get to, you know, like Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly talking about their characters. And then you get a part where they talk about Kang. And there's like a 30 second portion in there where it just plays like music while showing everybody, but Jonathan Majors, like in a room, like reading the script and laughing and, you know, having a good time. It's so clear that that was a part where they were talking about him as an actor, playing Kang. And they cut it. Yeah, if you watch them, it's still available. The Blu-ray version of this has best special features on it where the sections about Kang are all about how great Jonathan Majors is as an actor. Our wonderful it is to work with him, how he has such great ideas to bring toward the character and that he himself gets lots of time talking about how invested he is in Kang. He even has this line in the behind the scenes where he's like when he first saw the costume and he realized when you put it on like this is the first time of so many where I'm going to be playing Kang. He's going to be such an important character to me. And like it's something going forward. Then you watch the assembled and they mostly only talk about Kang. They don't really talk about Jonathan Majors. They talk about Kang and they talk about the costume. Yeah. They gloss over. It's kind of fascinating to see that the thing is yeah, the special features for the for the like Blu-ray that stays as it was intended as part of their it's interesting to see like the strategies that are often employed by Marvel in terms of you notice when you look at the projects in the way that they're marketed they have like these very specific objectives in terms of this is what we want people to think about our projects and the more that we can say that the more that people will accept that to be the case. Secret invasion. It's gritty. It's mature. It's you know, it's grounded. That's that's like the thing that they kept saying over and over and over again. What they say for multiverse. I mean a lot of it was hyping up book creativity and wonder. Yeah, Sam Raimi. Yeah, look at all these crazy shots. It's it's it's fascinating to see that and clearly the one with Quantum Mania is Kang Kang. Jonathan Majors Kang and assembled. Just it's yeah. Yeah, that's what we'll have it. So assembled was supposed to come out. Was it June or July 21st or something? They usually come out a few months after. So it was probably meant to come out around June, July and it eventually ended up coming out like at the end of July. You know, this work is all all scheduled and prepared to account for that. And then it just didn't. And I remember I was at a point where I was like this probably not going to be included. And then it just drops randomly. Yeah. And I got to open up Disney Plus. It's like, oh, shit. It's like it's out. It's just there. And so the way that works is I have to watch it, watch it with ringing in every point of interest, every quote of interest, every bit of revelation. Like I have to note in timestamp of like where it is. And then I have to figure out how I can get that into the script that either supports a current point or is added on to a section that it's relevant in. And it has to be done, you know, not so stately. I'll try and point them out if we come across one in the sections we have left because we're probably not going to cover the whole video. Quickly realizing we're an hour and 15 into the film. I say film. Six hours is a bit long for a film. And yeah, we're already three and a half and we haven't responded to any messages yet. So but there are times where one of the earlier ones is when I talk about the suits. Like that wasn't in the original cut but it was once the behind scenes came out because that's just pure evidence that there was a script once upon a time where they accounted for the physics slash the dangers where they gave up. That stuff is invaluable in terms of giving you insight. Because behind the scenes also has way more of Bill Murray in it. There's just scenes that he's in that aren't in the film. That's the same way he's like in a scene with Cassie. So he was clearly meant to be a bigger part of that film but they cut it. The two big ones. He tosses that security guard man into the quantum storm or whatever the probability storm. Yeah. But that was cut. And then yeah, he's trying to stop try harder new friends from escaping the prison cells. It's like Jesus, he was in the whole movie. The curl of it. It's crazy. It's astounding. But it's like all of this is kind of the challenges of... I know it was a problem I had with the end game video was I started writing it before Loki came out. And then as that was progressing I just realized like I have to account for this. You just have to. It's kind of like the difficulty of the longer it goes on the more new information you have to deal with in this case as well. Because I think the special features that was like incorporated while you were scripting but then we had to try and figure out a way to I say where was mainly you figuring out how to put the stuff from the assembled into the video after it was already mostly completed. Incorporating it in a way that doesn't come across as shit and stapled is really annoying but hopefully it was pulled off. The audience may decide on that one. So yeah, if you just turn the volume down we can start talking about. Yeah. So oh my gosh. It's a video commentary in the words of Viceroy's. This is incredible. Yeah. It's a bit of a weird thing. Not something we've done before. Bit of fun. I'm going to turn it down even more because I imagine it's clashing right now. This is the real EFAP 250. 195 wasn't a real episode. Wait, but why if 195 wasn't real why would this be 250? You could just say this is 195 because this is a mini. If you don't consider I'm assuming 195 was like a one where we chatted about stuff. Or are they saying that it means that the anniversary was technically 249? Oh well. Fine. But I was going to say that this is a mini though so that doesn't even make sense. That's right. So the next EFAP episode will be 250. Well, what I mean is that this replaced 195 and 250 is 250. Yeah, we could also go after this. Yeah. A simple thanks for all the hard work it took to do well played chaps. Thank you very much. No thanks. We're quite happy with how it turned out, I think. Yes, I think it's a classic on the screen. Yeah, it's a yeah. I think I just turned out really well. I'm surprised Hank gave the socialism line considering he lost Janet when disabling a Soviet nuclear missile in 1987. Guess that wasn't real socialism. Well, he's also he's quite he'd be obsessed with patents, right? And protecting sort of property. I imagine it's part of the protecting the PIM stuff. But ultimately, one could possibly say that all of it was just memes. I don't know if Loveness would say that or not. Well, I don't know. As we can tell, he's quite happy with the socialist aspect. He was like, they said a lot of weird things, right? Like they had the thing, the broccoli man. You got to do better broccoli people. What the hell was that? And then what was the part where he's like, oh, yeah, you know, themes. We got themes of revolution and stuff. Like, come on, man. Like, can you at least admit that what you made is like shallow and shit. Why are you even like pretending that it's this lofty story with these themes? Or is that a meme, too? Why would they ever admit that? We're just meeting about the whole thing. Yeah. Well, remember, he said it was again, Michelle Fyfe is unforgiven. Yes. Which, by the way, that was in assembled and it was in the audio commentary. Yeah. I wanted to make sure people understood that. Why are you telling me the robot created tech? My sense. You imagine having the balls to compare this to unforgiven. Oh, it's so wrong. So wrong. I sense a great new addition to my EFAP collection. Well. Oh, hopefully, yeah. Hopefully it was interesting and illuminating. Immutally, my bank flagged one of my anniversary superchats' illegal activity. What sort of operation are you exactly running here? Well, of course, it all goes to fund my crazy, large project of launching an enormous robot into space. So it's getting in trouble. Also, we've responded. We've done all of the anniversary superchats. Those will be out soon as recordings. Yeah. We're still going to be doing the recordings for the other EFAPs as we've missed. We're still on the way. And of course, answering superchats right now. Impossible happened. Netflix, one piece is good. I've heard about this. Apparently it's good. I've heard it's all right. Which I guess, yeah, that is unique for anime adaptations. Yeah. Especially on Netflix. The kind of scary, isn't it? We're answering a scary new world where anime adaptations might be OK. God. Two questions. How much research did you do into Ant-Man 1 and 2? So while I rewatched them and just sort of tried to have a focus in my head of what I believe is established fully about these characters, I didn't happily admit Ant-Man's not the person I most invested in the MCU or wasn't, but as of where we were in Phase 4, he probably is one of the people I most invested in. Yeah. In terms of who's left. And when you rewatch the other movies and then rewatch this one, it's just staggering the amount they missed out on and clearly didn't care about or understand, especially being the Peyton redirected all three. That's insane. Well, it's kind of by simply watching the first two films and incorporating observations about those films into this review, I feel like a lot of the discussion around this film didn't deal much with the first two films. It kind of treated it as its own thing, but when you realize how much it contradicts the prior two films and Scott's other appearances in other films, it's astounding. And what is the, what is one strange thing you didn't remember about them? About Ant-Man 1 and 2? To be honest with you, the biggest shock was that Ant-Man 2 was not as bad as I remembered. It was like, it's a very meh mood. It's part of the fact that you just don't remember anything. A lot of it doesn't make sense. The biggest issue I remember taking with it at the time is that nothing's explained. They just keep saying quantum, and then they point that out as well. It's good for you. Yeah, like quantum, quantum, quantum. But I mean, it's kind of what's happened now with Phase 4 is it's set a new bar for how low it can go. Like the middling mediocre, forgettable films of yesteryear are like, oh, wow, they're not bad compared to... Beyond the shrinking and growing action scenes, there's actually some cool stuff in that film. It's not worthless. Well, yeah, something that got lost in Ant-Man 3 was... Randy Poopham. It's something that got lost in Ant-Man 3 was playing with size in a way that was creative and easy to understand as a viewer. Like the first film and the second film used household objects, making them bigger and smaller, or having characters more relative to like a kitchen or a bathroom or like a toy. That's like really easy and fun. And they don't do that in this film. They don't play with size in any creative ways. Even Ant-Man and the Wasp does, right? The notable one was when Hope knocks over the salt shaker, shoots it, makes it grow big to block the door and the guy bumps into it. And it's like, yeah, it's creative. It is. Or like the Hello Kitty Pez dispenser that she throws out and makes bigger. It's like that's a lot of fun and they don't do that in this film at all. Yeah, because you're... Except though... It's all that relativity stuff. Like the guy has to avoid it with his motorbike. The Pez versus the bike, it looks... It's something that makes you go, huh? It's a funny clash that calls attention to the size thing. Whereas here, we just don't get that. And part of it, it's not that it would have been impossible because the fact that the Quantum Realm is so normal and mundane for a sci-fi world, the fact that it's got regular appliances, regular sort of sense of size, it means they could have still done that. Like if they had to fight in the bar or something and you had, I don't know, hope running along next to all of the bottles and like using those and throwing them at the guys that they're fighting, they could have done that, but they still didn't. It's like they still didn't seize the opportunities that were present in the Quantum Realm. It's weird. Yeah, and another annoying factor is that Scott is kind of an idiot throughout the movie. He's mostly just playing catch-up to everybody else. Everyone else's goals, like be it Goliath or Hank and Janet or Hope, whatever else. He's mostly just there trying to make up for the mistake he did in Civil War, which isn't exactly like according to the movies, just like he got caught and then he ditched the suit. And it's just like, how did, I guess, okay. Again, he is Ant-Man. It should be hard for him to catch up, but fine, okay. And yeah, the movie is him trying to make up for his mistakes that he made in favor of helping other people, which I think is on brand for him, so it's mostly forgivable. But yeah, that would be the most surprising thing about rewatching them is I don't dislike it as much as I thought I did. Also, would you consider having for any voice sections for these collabs? I am totally fine and interested in possibly setting up projects where we have more voices in one video, but the idea here was more to provide him stuff to be able to work with and essentially have an editing job to commit to, not necessarily to make something that we both want to have a part in. But that could happen in the future, who knows. Yeah, maybe, but yeah, it's just visual space. It's just, it's mainly there to complete and enhance the primarily the work of this chap here. Yeah, because you guys want stuff faster. And this is the only way to make it faster and still have it be good as to have more people work on it. Pretty much, yeah. Hi, Fring, thoughts on Pikmin 4? Cheers. I think it's pretty great. I'm nearly finished with it. I've nearly 100% of that game is super fun. I don't have a good point of reference for the other Pikmin games. I haven't played them, but Pikmin 4 is a real cool. That's a fun game. The device gives you a simulation. Hi, Rah. Wait, something's wrong here. Oh yeah, hi, Rags, I guess. As I said, the beginning of Rags is not actually home right now. And this is obviously something that we thought we could do that Rags would feel a bit third wheelie on, I imagine, because it's mainly trying to talk about the production of this video. Hi, Longman and Plague Man. I just finished watching the anniversary stream this Friday. It's length made it a massive. It is a big boy. Yeah, it's a massive one. That's why I space them out a little bit so you don't feel like you're overwhelmed, but you probably were anyway. Maybe it's a little bit racially insensitive of me not to know, but what's the difference between a fleam, a flim, a flam, and a floomp? Once again, good work. Well, great work, sorry. Thank you. And yeah, it is a bit insensitive, but that's okay. Context clues always give it away. You can always tell exactly what those words mean just by how they're using a sentence. They're beautiful like that. It's wonderfully straightforward. A dictionary will be released one day, I'm sure. Um, farewell and adieu to you fair fleamish massives. Farewell and adieu to you masses of fleam, jaws for efat movies. You sent this as part of the anniversary ones as well. Maybe at some point, to know if jaws works quite the way that we want for efat movies, but maybe it would be on the list it's on. There would be a few other things that would make it in before jaws would, you know. Yeah, probably. No, I'm certainly. No, it can't be true. I could be gay if I wanted to, like a guy who is gay. I believe I am gay. I am gay. This is the gay actor Michael Douglas, I think. Ah, director's commentary. Nice. Also, Dark Souls one is good. I agree with both of those sentiments. Yeah. Well, I guess is it director's commentary or is it comments, commentator's commentary? Critique is commentary. Whatever anyone wants to call it. I'm fine with it. Fletcher's face there. He has a lot of funny expressions. Why did you use that specific Miss Marvel clip at the beginning of the video since you haven't seen the show? I think the CG looks awful. It just looks bad. Yeah. Not to say that Miss Marvel is a bad show. All right, I haven't seen it, but it seems like the sentiment is that that's one of the better ones. But the fact that nobody talks about it is not a great sign in terms of it being genuinely great. No. Plus, I heard it's got time travel. So you know what that means typically. You get into that watch together. Watch together goes on the Internet. You go out on the Internet Sharks on the Internet. Our shark, Jaws eFap. Maybe. More nanotech helmets. Oh, that was because that was something that we were just noticing more and more of the shitty nanotech helmets as we were editing. Yeah. When you're putting in visuals and you're figuring things out like, you know, sometimes down to like a frame by frame basis, you start to notice how bad the nanotech helmets are. Yes. So don't line up properly. The ones that like animate so quickly that you can barely even comprehend what's happening. When they're zoomed in and slowed down, it starts to get shocking. Like you don't realize how bad they are. Yeah. And the thing is, if you slow down like Iron Man suiting up in the older movies, you don't have this problem of just like the faceplate popping up or popping down. Like that stuff works fine. Look at that helmet. Like that looks shit. Yes. Hang's helmet looks particularly bad. The thing that you notice is how bad it has terrible tracking. Like the shot when he, the shot when he does the blast, you know, the one that they use in the trailer, like his face is moving in a way that doesn't align with the helmet. It's like it's moving within the helmet. It looks awful, especially when you slow down and zoom in. And it'd be annoying because someone would be like, oh, well, yeah, but like no film holds up to scrutiny. And it's like, nah, they hold up way better. Like there are things where it looks even better when you start to notice when you slow down. It looks shit. Roo. This movie tries to portray Scott as an ego test asshole with how he saved the world and how he listens to himself. But Scott is literally the nicest guy featured in the MCU. Why did they even try to give him something to learn? He needed something to learn. That's right. He needed something to learn. And you know, whether it was congruent with this character or not, the only way that he can learn something is to learn a lesson he never needed to learn. You should help people just because it doesn't mean it's not happening. It's like, dude, Scott is like one of the last people you can say that to. He will go above and beyond and well out of his way to help people. He helped, like he helped, he helped hope and hank at great potential cost to himself. If they found out, he would have been sent to jail. It's really sad because I imagine they'd be like, well, where else are we going to take him? Yeah, where else can we take him? Oh, and also, I think this is the montage section, actually. Scott Lee. Oh, yeah. We should. Let's let's bump up the the volume on this one. Oh, the clunk. So pleasing to the senses. Sorry about this. All those circuits and and then it went to place. Just went. No. Well, the tracking on all of these guys is so bad. Yeah. This this worse. I mean, suit up, I think. Yep. Oh, so bad. Look at that. Come on. That's unacceptable. Look at that. Look at it here in your ears. It's so weird. Call Stephan over here. Come on. Oh, that that might be the worst run. Enough back to the might be the worst one. Like it looks like it's like a PNG file that's been like put over. It looks awful. Yeah. It's so bad. A mother cried when you described the birthday scene. Birthday scene. But like when Scott went to a in M.M.1 or M.M.3. Was there? Oh, at the end of the film, you mean? Yeah, I'm not. That's 100 percent. She'll probably be the M.M.1 one. Um. Molar, I'm on the RSVP list for the Hot Toys Modoc to send you of only one condition. You set it up to watch you sleep. Can you imagine waking up in the middle of the night and seeing Modoc staring at you? Every once in a while, he says, surprise to see me. Yeah, I see. Yeah. The Bible and unbridled right old rage wed. Probably not. Probably not going to do that. That's, uh, you know, it's one of their media breakdowns that I don't. I'm not particularly passionate about the Bible, you know, not my thing. Wish Cassie was just a normal teenager who shrunk because she's with her dad and the movie is Scott hyper on edge, protecting his daughter in a realm that she isn't trained for with her as a reliable P.O. Relatable P.O.V. So someone Loveness says in the behind the scene stuff, he's like, she was brought into this will by Scott. Now he's got to take this a lot more seriously. Both things are not true. It's strange. She makes the observation that Scott's taken it more seriously, but he's not. He just taken it less seriously of anything. Yeah, he's still joking around with someone who's got them in prison cells and has the power to kill them in a moment's notice. So you could argue that's in. Oh, shit. This is the introduction of the audio commentary, isn't it? Yeah, let's, let's, uh, that's right. If he's not allowed to speak to you while you're in the room. Is it all done through comms devices? Sounds retarded. He asked Modog a question. Modog's like, there are steps outside of the room. Is that the first time that you've found the ad? Yeah, because obviously the idea here is that we've introduced Modog now. Don't do that. The trove of the bad guy hurting his henchmen. I hope that's funny for anybody who hasn't seen that episode, that we're all Modogs. It is. Sorry. Fucking lame. The bad guy killing or hurting his own henchmen. I'm tired of it. It's lame. Boring, yeah. It's genuinely interesting if you present. It's, it's, um, it's, oh my God. And the Simpsons, when he goes to, uh, uh, no, I can't believe his name is escaping me. Um, Hank Scorpio? Yeah, yeah. Hank Scorpio. Like, it's one of the reasons why Hank Scorpio was so memorable as a character is he's like a supervillain who genuinely cares about Homer. And who works for him? Yeah, his people who works for him, matter. He's, he's like an awesome boss, but his business is, he's not like this. Yeah. And it's like, why does that stick out? It's because you never see that. You never see the henchmen who, who, uh, who like cares about his employees. It's, it's, it would be downright like, unique and interesting, especially in an MCU movie if you presented that. Uh, maybe it's about time I start listening to the audio commentary. But wait, who was in it? Hello there, I'm Peyton Reed, director of Ant-Man of the Wasquanta Mania. I'm joined today by screenwriter of Ant-Man of the Wasquanta Mania, Mr. Jeff Loveness. Oh God, it's the director and the writer. Hey everybody, thanks for joining us. Thanks for being here, Jeff. Absolutely. So, what do they have to say about this scene? I want this moment to become a meme. I want to see MODOK flying against the wall and, uh, do not speak when I'm in the room. Oh geez, man. Yeah, that'll be so funny. Let's make a meme of MODOK and we'll have do not speak while I'm in the room. Oh my God. Not speak. It's so embarrassing. Your villain is flatlining already and a good performance income. And the thing is, would you say like, I hope you will make a meme of it? That's already cringe, but then your suggestion is just the line? Yeah, the meme is do not speak when I, because that's how memes typically work is that they actually have the line from the film. There's usually more layers to a meme than that. Yeah, like the meme is, the meme is MODOK's face pressed against the wall with do not speak when I am in the room. What is that? It just, it comes across as a person doesn't know what memes are. Which is really awkward, right? Because he's like, he's not old, is he? Isn't like, he's just 30s? Yeah, he's got to be a child of the internet to some extent. Surely he knows like, how memes work. Yeah, here's him admitting that this is his first screenplay, like a significant degree. Good ol' Vass, it is insane. That is crazy. And then everywhere I looked, everywhere I looked, he's fucking. Thinking this time it's going to be different. No, no, no, no, no, please. Oh, yes. Still talking about this screenwriting. Yeah, here's that book, Brian. Yeah. Twisted Terms. You know, Twisted Terms beginning, middle and end. Yeah. Everybody knows the hero's journey isn't always happy. What do I look forward to reading? It's kind of funny because we've, we've like evolved past the era of Brian being the bad writer, you know? Yeah. Like Brian representing the bad writer trope because like the observation with Brian is what he wrote was like uninspired hack-need lame derivative. Like that was what was observed as being a bad writer in the mid-2000s by Family Guy. At this point, being an uninspired hack-need like writer who just makes something that's generic and not so good would put you above what you get with Ant-Man and the Lost Quantumaneo. Yeah. Where it's just broken to the core. And yeah, it would have been awesome to have Cassie be the relatable almost. You could have made to the protagonist, honestly. Yeah, I think so. It would have been... I just don't know why. It's... Remember like the part where I think it was I think it was eventually and Lily said someone who was saying, oh, it's great that Cassie grows up to be like an optimistic upbeat funny person. It's like she's not funny, first of all, but she's not optimistic. She's quite cynical. Yes. And you just wondering what the fuck happened to her. What happened? Yeah, exactly. And if you want to go the route of while she was everyone got blipped that she loved, don't you think that would have an effect? It's like, okay, fine. We can go, we can go that direction, but it doesn't explain where she's at now. And that doesn't strike me as the angle at all. Like that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems like she's unhappy with Scott specifically now. Not what was happening in the blip. And I mean, it's one of the problems with Marvel is that the five years of the blip is like remarkably uneventful by Marvel standards. Every year, there's multiple world and like think about everything that happened in the five years prior from like Avengers up until Infinity War. Think about all of the crazy events that happened meanwhile in the five years of the blip nothing happened seemingly. We've had no story set during that time. No big supervillains are rising. It was just a remarkably quiet time in the MCU. Uh, hmm. So what do I have to do to make you watch Black Sails? It's really good and a much needed break from Cape Shit and Trash Wars. We watch plenty of things that aren't Cape Shit and Trash Wars. OK. Oh, yeah, of course. I recently showed Rags The Robates of the Day. I watched The Bounty myself and I watched Cobweb. So that's an action adventure almost biopic historical film. A horror film, the horror fantasy fairy tale film and then a period piece drama. Like the... And this was after having watched like five animated films back to back from several different eras and studios. We watched The Pirates and then Adventure with Sciences Anastasia, The Black Cauldrons. You guys probably figured out from the visual references in these videos sometimes it's like, oh, they must have seen that semi-recently unless it's like Simpsons or something. Well, it varies. Some of them are just like those sort of baked in references like Fight Club. And oh, yeah, like that El Dorado right there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I haven't actually seen it that smart yet, but that's a... Yeah, I'd say there's like a good amount of variety to the clips. Most of the reactions are... This also lined up really well because like this visual in terms of what's happening, where, how. It's like, ah, yes, I can use day after tomorrow because that's just sometimes how it works. It's like, oh, that's on my mind. I could... And it just lines up perfectly. Other times it takes an hour or two to figure out what reference I can use. Please more and more Looney Tunes references in the future. They're so good. About 99% of them were free. I threw in the one where Bugs is like deflated. I don't know what episode it's from, but he's it's one of the newer ones, I think. Yeah, because I, I think because Wiley Coating, Road Runner is... I love those. Lots of those weren't made the way and obviously the Daffy Duck ones like Duck and Mark, Duck Dodgers. They're just like cartoons are super useful for our reactions because especially with Looney Tunes the reactions are just excellent and varied. Like you could just have Daffy with his like beak shot off like on the side of his head wearing it. Oh yeah, and of course Toy Story's got a lot there too. Oh, yep, there's Summer again. Yeah, and it's pretty good. So in our respective sections it's like you'll see a lot of like I'll have Toy Story in there as well or just different. We've got a lot of arguably we lucked out in terms of we didn't really repeat each other's visuals even though we used similar sources. There was one or two times I had to move around some of the fuck-offs from Logan Roy because we had we had chosen the same visuals. I'm not sure if you've heard about this but some of the people in the background are supposed to be Infinity Stones. Don't ask me why or how. Yeah, I heard about that. It's the little guys with the colored like sphere heads or whatever. It's just dumb as fuck. I'm not interested. I am just saying that. Hi, Fringy. Opinion on NoPon from Xenoblade? Uh, I've played played Xenoblade Chronicles X but I haven't played the other one. So I don't I don't know. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Also, yeah, don't know why but the FPS has shrunk to like five now. So weird. Don't know what's going on. What is that? So I don't really know how I use this. It's strange. Uh, hi guys. Love the video. Is there any way to appeal a ban from the Discord? I was kicked from the server for disagreeing with a mod over an anime manga but didn't break any of the rules. I'm sorry. I've got basically no sway or sort of coverage of the Discord. I've left that to the moderate. Is this more so theirs as a Discord than it is mine? It would feel weird to sort of impose any preference that I have when they're the ones that run it. But yeah, I don't know if they have a process to appeal bans. I genuinely have no idea if they do. But, um, sorry to hear you've been banned, I guess. When this unbridled video came out, I went back and watched the first two Ant-Man movies and boy, the writing characters are really on different worlds of quality. Bless you both and God frickin' speed. Well, thank you very much. And yes, true. Ant-Man 1 especially. Yeah, Ant-Man 1 is real solid. Yeah, I quite like it. Whenever I hear the name Goliath in this video, I think of the early eFap meme. And you should. That's the good thing to think about. But I'm holding out hope. And so that's the On the topic of villains pointlessly killing their henchmen, imagine if Saruman killed Wim Tong out of rage for letting Gandalf heal Theoden. Um, that's, that would be more of a reason though. Like, uh, Usually when you talk about the villain killing their henchmen, it's just for some bullshit stupid reason. Most of the time it's nothing like it's just like the funniest one will always be Ryza Skywalker. The guy asks a really good question. And then you just get fucking strangled. It's like, what are you doing? You idiot. Yeah, it's really dumb. Or just like when they're mad. So they just decide to kill some random guy. Dumb. It's just like, it seems like, ah, so yeah, they're villains. I don't care about their own men. It's like, maybe they don't, but like, this is terrible for morale that a simple mistake could end your life. Like, why would anybody work for you? Like, why wouldn't anybody participate in this? Been watching eFap since episode zero back in my college days. Now I'm officially a homeowner. Love you guys. Happy five years. Time sure flies. It does indeed. Many a change have happened since then. On the house. And hello, somebody made a 42 minute top gear special out of Dark Souls 2. It was quite enjoyable. Oh, like a meme where they're in Dark Souls 2 or whatever, because it sounds sounds a lot of fun. Currently. Now that we are currently caught up with the messages. Can you think of any particular sections you'd want to jump to or talk about? I'm just trying to think about which parts would be like notable in terms of the way that they were the way that they were made that they haven't already been covered in terms of the general approach to references, writing, you know. Yeah, because obviously we've mostly told you guys how everything gets made in this. Scheduling, scripting, all the editing passing over back and forth, proofing and timing, sound effects, trying to improve it as well. Yeah, well, it's just, yeah, it's, I guess the interesting thing is like the way that how like a project can kind of, it can be tough when you're like, when you're working on something for a few months and you don't have like the complete thing there to look at, you kind of have to work with the hope that it'll all come together with like that you, that you have enough trust in the process that it will yield a great like coherent end product. That can sometimes be like hard to have in mind when you're like working on individual things down to like the second. It's like one of the challenges of working on a project for a long time. It can be hard to stay motivated. Someone asked, any meaningful differences between the plot synopsis and the recap sections editing wise. So there's a sense of, there's like a pro and con in the first half of the video when you're recapping all the events chronologically, a lot of the visuals speak for themselves in terms of I'm recapping so you know what to put there. Representative of what I'm saying. When you get to the second half as much as I'm going to skip to it now, maybe we'll start skipping around a little bit. I'm talking about all kinds of things and your full access to the film. So basically complete freedom for visuals. And like I said, the pro and con is that you'll have to do probably more work in the latter section than the prior section because as much as I'm describing context stuff, I'm often talking about abstract things as well. Like yeah, which means that you kind of need to think a little bit outside the box of what would be a good visual to explain. Like what's what's a good visual to describe Hank's character in relation to this specific point that isn't referencing any one scene in particular. It could be, you know, any number of scenes. And does this overlap too much with like a clip I used 10 seconds ago or 20 seconds ago because there's some amount of like attempt to have variety in the visuals. You don't want to use the same thing over and over and over again. Yeah. And when I'm describing an alternate story with what we could have done with Hank's like, just bringing it to this, it's like, you have to use visuals that these visuals that I'm describing don't exist. You have to use other stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like I'm the particularly challenging part was when you were essentially laying out. This is the arc that they probably should have done for Hank in the film and it included things that just there are no visuals for. So it's like, OK, if I don't have the exact visual, I can't have the exact visual that doesn't exist. I need to try and arrange. Like there's it's visual storytelling in conjunction with, you know, I guess plain old audio storytelling, like telling a story, explaining something. It's like, how can I tell a story with these visuals that puts in your mind what you were saying? That's kind of challenging. Yeah. But, you know, you just got to, I mean, you've got no choice, right? You've got to find a way to make it work. I need visuals. Top Gear Dark Souls too special by Yumfar or YMFAH. Everyone watch it when this is done, lol. If they're the ones I'm familiar with, then yeah, they're really good. Like the format, maybe time stamps could improve it. Like in post, or or do you mean maybe that we have time stamps ahead of time to talk about particular parts? Because maybe, well, it's a six hour long video. So like I wasn't sure which part would be notable or which ones would end up getting touched on later anyway. Hi all, Mola, Sekiro and Fringy play Dark Souls 1. Yeah? All right, yeah, fine. Have either of you read any of E&M Bank's culture series? No, I haven't. But I think I have one of his books. I need to get around to reading it. Too many books to read. And do you enjoy reading any sci-fi? I mean, yeah, like science fiction I really like is a genre. Oh and someone's, so I haven't described how I script these things at the end I guess. So this is funnily enough got like a more robotic foundation than you might imagine. I take what I know to be true about the characters or what I believe that all the references we have bind into a pattern in movies like Ant-Man. Like everything you get from Hank in that movie follows along from him caring about hope, him protecting the world from his pimp tech being like given unfettered access and him stopping Darren from beginning the arms race. Every like action and interest he has relates to that. Ant-Man and the Wasp you have Janet as the variable that's deciding a lot of what he wants to do. But the other things are still kept in place they're still relevant of course the clip of him saying you know you were supposed to not take my suit like it's obviously referencing the fact that he's still very invested in pimp tech and it being protected. Third film throws it all out and it's like what is the film third film even trying to do with Hank? And it's honestly kind of unclear like it's just a complete fucking mess he's not really taken seriously as a character anymore. And so then you grab all the references of how they failed him each of the actions and interests and lines of dialogue he has to go against any of the established court rates and sort of make your final points on that and then like I said I want to talk about what what was like felt like an obvious sort of counter what else can you do because a lot of people say that criticism is incomplete until you provide an alternative path what is intrinsic to a lot of the criticisms of these videos is supposed to be this doesn't make sense the alternative is to make it make sense but some people might come across some of these things and be like how do you make that make sense though and do you have to make it all make sense of course the answers to both of those can be complicated and interesting and stuff but the Hank stuff I said on I think it was one of the streams I was on recently that like if you got this right it would probably improve the a lot of people's perspective of this film significantly like if you gave him a hero send off a lot of people would be like I really like the Hank stuff though like yeah okay the quantum realm is nonsense but I like what they did for the characters you know if you can do that I think it speaks to the general preferences of people as long as you can do some character payoffs people can really look past a lot of this shit yeah and you know that's the same process for all of them I just figure out who they are based on what they've been established with and then you know it's rare this film doesn't really count but who are the best characters like one of them is Kryla who is brand new and that often happens in the MCU we're brand new characters because they can't be contradictory but the irony of course is a lot of the brand new characters are absolutely awful and it's a it's a skill to be honest with you that they have to do something like that but then of course the other is MoDoc and as I argue in my section I do believe a lot of it might be accidental I don't know that they know what they create especially because they laugh at it when he dies well the fact that the the parallel between MoDoc and Darth Vader which that's kind of a funny one because I think when I was cutting together the visuals for the MoDoc stuff I just started realizing in real time you could easily like have visual parallels to Darth Vader we were both on the same wavelength because later then in the script I say yes I'm referencing Darth Vader I'm feeling spicy today that's kind of funny because I hadn't even yeah yeah like in real time I'm just realizing it's like dude he's Darth Vader he's cringe Darth Vader but he is do the family commentary bits big funny I'll I'll play the MoDoc ones at the very least didn't Loki establish that the only way to destroy timelines is a monster at the end of time and he who remains found it after the war I guess that the implication is that Kang would feed all those timelines into the Spooky fart monster I have no idea I don't know how that works yeah loved your Dark Souls 2 series Spam Bush is now a part of my personal dictionary Godspeed I should reference that more Spam Bush yeah it's just when you get ambushed by a shit ton of things and then it's it's their version of like we've made something difficult it's like yeah look at you go yeah you have Spam Bush I get it clever favorite British comedy shows love David Mitchell David Mitchell and Olivia Coleman in Peep Show but I am in love with Rachel Riley and Countdown Lola Livier is only 49 well yeah hopefully we can get plenty of great performances out of her then and uh favorite British comedy shows probably gonna be Blackadder or Faulty Towers or Monty Python I was gonna say those are old timers we're talking about more modern ones the in between is a super high up on my list all right oh here it is this is a accidentally ended up of that yeah because this is the beginning of the Modoc section I think I have to fine tune that shit you know been watching through Futurama feel that seasons one to four were the best but it's overall a very entertaining watch yeah I easily highly recommend Futurama if you haven't seen it already sorry this edit so Das edited that I gave him the Simpsons clip of the Modoc clip and uh fairly enough he he had it be the actual like image when Homer was falling down the stairs like it was it was the what it was originally and I was like nah I gotta throw in the second half of Modoc blown up or whatever it's just a funny bonus to have him there while he's falling down the stairs yeah let's get this bit out of the way we got Modoc in a movie actually it's true film has come a long way it's true no film is a frightened devolved tiny mammal trying to navigate its way back to an evolutionary advantage after the fucking disney asteroid annihilated dinosaur IPs that foolishly assumed they were safe I think that analogy works pretty well it's like wiped out all of the dominant life forms in film and now what's what's remains it's like well there's still some IPs that are trying to scrape their way back but yeah most of the time now it's gonna be built on new IPs that are lower risk or or maybe higher risk but lower budget modoc ain't a fucking blip on the cinematic achievements timeline other than of course in the way of an eyesore Mr. Potato Head's alive his face is stretched I became the ultimate weapon it's fucking stupid man I wasn't right why is his head so fat no oh my god it looks fucking terrible potato oh that's so bad what is going on oh my god what do you mean it's cinema he's got handlebars on the side why is he on a kid's scooter on a tent modoc looks like ass a stunted head ass face smashed fuck up of epic proportions so what would happen for lovin' us with this is he be really happy that he'd find out she was laughing at him and he'd be like aww not with him yeah this is not like this is such a funny character good job it's more so I can't believe this is in the film that's unreal come on damn it on mix what the fuck is the tv he's just been sitting there all this time fucking hell what potatoes potatoes always watch he looks like a fucking egg he's just been spent millions of dollars on this it doesn't make any sense with that in mind really amazing work guys on both sides scripted editing really love it vinyl e-fab trio is already on the way thank you very much for that and that reminds me to probably mention those that's right they are vinyl school on sale yes they've got how long now is it two weeks less than that about less than that so it's about 12 days well well let me pull them up so there's Mr. Fringy of course and there's the me and the rags ones links are in the description if you want to grab them it just passed 1,000 oh my goodness oh wow yeah there you go and uh rags and Fringy are there too you gotta grab the or three of them if you want to get the discount that's right it's the trio the e-fab collection it's been mentioned before I'll say it again these are very very likely never going to be sold again so if you want them grab them if you don't want them no problem it's totally fine no local it's still a lot of time but you are running out of time yes 11 days and 18 hours so this will probably get mentioned again on an e-fab the next e-fab episode next Saturday will be the final time I suppose yeah but it's all good hopefully yeah vinyl plushies is what sort of refers to what an FNT is vinyl plushies it feels like an oxymoron how can it be a vinyl and a plushie at the same time um yeah they come in noise little packages as well that's right because the boxes are uh quite important for people with uh vinyl figures and collected is indeed a collectible yeah nice nice little box it doesn't have holes um yeah and with that we'll probably end there um this will get re-uploaded on Mueller and judging from the comments we'll decide if ever this is a wise idea for the future I figure it's good enough in terms of letting you know why these things take so long and the kind of investment we have in making what they are and why they turn out this way um yeah because I mean that took a few months to mate it did like a few is an understatement that was like half a year's worth of work um and you know it's not just me it's not just Fringy it's also Goga and Das bullshit that's right as well quite a bit this like I said the section of plot all the way to the beginning of Hank that's uh that's Goga's work yeah if he if he didn't uh we wouldn't uh we wouldn't have made it in time we wouldn't have um that's partly why I was desperate to bring him in was that I was like uh oh the timeline's not looking great especially with the fucking assembled bullshit and then of course copyright yeah and uh and yeah getting the vinyl sorted out as well in relation to the video so um but it worked out everything lined up which it does sometimes and then as time goes on it did line up you forget about the stresses of how it all almost didn't you just remember that it did and it's okay and I think that's the important part right of the creative processes at the end of the day the work speaks for itself it's it's the the finished completed final thing it is it is what it is after all of the work that gets put into it so you know it's always worthwhile take pride in your work guys if you talk yeah projects because the the next projects that will be released you on on the mohler channel they're already been worked on and plans already been made and it just takes a really really really long time um right so yeah but you're gonna have a soka to tide you over it's it's getting there I'm working soka is on the way getting there yeah but for us for now we're gonna go ahead and say goodbye thanks for watching folks we appreciate it and um yeah we'll see you on the next thing the defap thing whatever it may be to the pip here you bye bye everybody see you beeeewww