 16th Barron Select Board meeting to order to my far left is Justin Lawrence John Quinn to my right is close Smith. Let's see here also with us is Dana Hadley our town administrator and Van Isabel our town treasurer Excuse me one second right Angelina. Are you on? Angelina, thank you Additions or changes the agenda. Yes, I'd like to add a Meeting for the liquor board I'd like to add a discussion on Contingency of operations I'd like to add approval of license permits vouchers and applications I'd like to add working in the right-of-way and I'd like to add a letter received from a resident. I also would like to have a place holder In the event you appoint a police officer this evening Okay, let's see here. Are you there? Okay Look public comment Jonathan Goddard and I was on the ballot as a writing candidate for the two-year seat we had two vacancies but because of Various people voting both for the two-year seat and the three-year seat things got a little bit jumbled So I'm just here to express my interest in being appointed to the two-year seat for the For the Washington Central Unified Union School District I was on the U32 school board for I don't know close to ten years. I was on the Berlin elementary board I've been on this board for a few years some years back So I would like to seek that appointment And as the statute reads there needs to be some Right there needs to be some discussion with the select board from the town so I did submit a letter to the superintendent expressing my interest in the seat, so Would you send us one as well? Sure. Yes. Yeah, that would help the other thing Jonathan Or Dana actually I'm not sure of the protocol. Do we have to Post this see if there's other people interested or well our our policy is to post Openings for emittees so that people have a chance to express interest And I can do that and maybe you've been appointed at the next meeting Okay, can I just do a clarification? So the superintendent did a post and coordinated I thought with the town clerks He informed both because we're doing the same thing in Worcester and in Berlin and we is that consultate The statute requires us to consult the board a point if the board is the one that points it We just want to make sure that there's no conflict So it actually was posted in front porch forum and we've been like while going around trying to actually recruit People to do it. So what you're saying is that it's not this board that appoints. It's the board of the school district Oh, we do. Okay, the the yeah All we do is consult with you and make sure that you do not have any because it's your town that you know that You're okay with with Jonathan being there at appointee, but you're not required to be the one That appoints we have made a different thing. So you're just saying that You have no objection to Jonathan being appointed The motion to that I make the motion actually we can't can we This is just if it's just knowledge, we don't just kind of consensus. Yeah As the lawyer and I asked this is for tenants that I didn't need anything formal from you guys Thank you Thanks a lot I Anything else on public comment hearing none Treasurer's important. I am okay Notice in the paperwork. We've made the last payment to Norfolk savings bank on the 2015 truck So that one is paid for now. We still have three three trucks The 2016 17 and 19 that we still do have Still all money on but at least we're down, you know one payment and those three payments are still about $70,000 a year for those three and we'll continue for at least the next two years before another one drops off In that rotation we're doing with the trucks how long before we pick up another You know used to be we rotate there five years and it seems to me like lately it's been every three so We didn't Have in the budget a new truck for white 21 So we have a year off. Although as you know the road superintendent is talking to you about a road grader We really don't have funds for that we put $50,000 aside for future Anticipation of having to do something so I guess the answer to how long it will be Is a great question of which I don't know the answer to you know We have four trucks in the oldest now is a 15 That we have the six-year warranty alone I think it's fine, but the original one was two and we bought an additional three year Do I have it? Yeah, but the additional is just for the power trade. Yes I Think Diane also gave you in addition to them to the monthly She gave you the budget a Separate one for the budget so that you could see that she has put in the 21 budget Every appropriation was approved at 10 meetings. I've added that into your budget at the end So it also added into what we will need to collect for property So what was the actual increase after adding everything in over last year's budget percentage was On the operating budget Just the operating budget. No, I'm talking about overall to the taxpayers. Okay, did you have all the special articles that I don't I Think it's probably under about eight percent The operating budget was 775 and then we had another 10,000 in appropriations that we had And I didn't count the fire department, so probably eight and a half percent But I'll get you a better answer than that Thank you Diane also Maybe you'd like to just say as far as the the list of overdue taxes you've made notes on them Yes, which I continue to make notes on them. I do send out delinquent tax noses tax noses every single month Everybody gets one if they're past due a lot of people I'm working with so I try to get monthly payments or Whatever they can do. I just we try to keep in communication with most people a lot of the issues we that I have here is the abandoned mobile homes and These people are leaving them in the parks The parks are having very hard time trying to move them When I bring it to tax sale anything I bring to tax sales gonna cost about a thousand dollars generally to bring to tax Yeah, and I have yet to have a mobile home sell at tax sale, and I brought quite a few of them to tax sale So in talking with and I know I brought this up to the board before in the past Now, you know the options that we have is if we leave it on the books to just accumulate tax If I can't sell it however, how are we going to you know get the money back from it? There's a couple different ways that we can go one of them is we go to the board of the payment and say let's bring it down to Let's say they owe five thousand. Let's bring it down to a thousand see if we can't sell that at tax Yeah, but the other solution is probably and to me is probably the better solution is that if it does not sell Then to select work It's on it because they'll do just below bid nobody else gets it and then we'll own it and after a year's time then We'll have to get do something with up to demolish it or whatever it is that we have to get rid of it But that's probably the only way that we're going to get off the taxes We're kind of in this cycle. We have a few mobile homes I believe that haven't paid taxes in quite some time They keep accumulating the interest keeps accumulating and it's it's just on paper I think we have one home that We're up to like 11,000 dollars Yeah, and so It's not an easy fix by the time to have to buy it, but It just keeps escalating and to say to have the assessors in my opinion Drop the value to zero so that there's no further taxes really isn't the way to handle it, but we have been doing that We have done it years ago I can't remember We did one property on this property. I'm thinking up we did drop the drop the assessment But we can't obey the taxes right whatever is do And it will accumulate interest right and my own opinion of that. I think I think it's a poor policy because The only trouble I use everyone else I guess if we take the trailer to the cell and we're just going to destroy it It's gonna pass the town money None of these trailers run in a park or anything so the owner of the park was taken Yes, some of them are in a park and what you has been doing is he's been moving them out of the lot On to another property that he owns in Berlin Which you can do without having to pay the taxes if he if somebody if he wanted to move it to Berrytown for instance He could not move it without paying the taxes first But he has other property here, so he moves it on his other property and we do that legally And he's after me at this point because there's a couple property. There's a couple that he wants to dispose of And the only way he can dispose of them is if I say well, yeah Okay, then we're not going to go after the taxes then I can go to the board of the Bayman and And go that route and I have not done that how many trailers are we talking about four or five? And I do have them listed on here if you look through my notes, and I'll make sure I really clear the list And so you'll understand it on the picture. I'm just trying to think so these are taking up space on Henry's property But not in the park Yeah, still it's taking up space and he wants to get rid of the trailers Yeah, but he cannot demolish the trailers unless he goes to court to do that There's a process. There is a process that you can go through right now to sign off on it Yeah, and right now he is going to say they're abandoned your band and he's moving them but he What other park owners have done is they go to court and then the court will come back to me and say Okay, do you want to pursue this at that point? I normally don't because it's probably $500 is owed on over something else And then I bring that to the board of the payment then after that they can destroy the mobile home But that's a fee and that's a cost to them, and that's not what Henry's really looking for He just wants to have them abandoned and I really not sure what that process is It sounds like you demolish them for free You want a scrappy can out of them because losses, so are you looking for a motion on this day in I Don't think you are tonight. You know, I think I have a question into the lawyer about it as well Basically take it under advisement right. I think we're just I think we're just telling you that it is something that's We really need to clear some of these old balances Brad. Well Diane here could we speak about the Contingency of operations next thank you It would have been nice if I had a contingency of operations plans, however, I do not but I did take The template off the state's website which I am going to Fill out. I guess it's obviously come to head with this virus thing. What happens if So I probably Will be sitting down with Diane and the staff to come up with what happens it And then I'll bring it back to you But I wanted if you had any suggestions for Things that I should do Yeah So I'm wondering what we're doing to protect our employees I mean from an interaction with the public. Well, that's a great. That's a great question And of course, this is my first pandemic so I'm New at this The office is not open for the public We are serving people through mail or telephone or email Can people do online payments? They can do online payments We can take credit cards the clerk's office Corinne is coming in half days to Take clerk messages and she will make an appointment if someone has to get in the vault and do research And she has a procedure in what they would have to do to get in there And I think that is our worry because if one of us gets sick the whole The whole building is sick and then it's downhill from there So that's what we're doing now We're closing for two weeks and I don't know maybe we need to add a week as we go along the next two weeks I believe are going to be very rough Do you have a process for cross-training and for keeping passwords if anything were ever to happen to anyone to be able to pick up And take over various tasks, you know, that's the biggest problem of having a very small staff Now Tom and I across-trained basically, I mean I can I could do what Tom does and and he can always Step in for me If Diane were to be out I could do payroll I Might be able to even pay a bill Although I'm also the one approving the bill. So I mean usually we don't Get into that, you know, I make it policy. I don't handle money Just because the work I do I've written out I have a booklet and everything is I have these directions of what I do. That's great. It's by chapter very thorough That's great. So we do have that No, we don't know we don't know each other's passwords, but many programs Diane and I both can get into And but the clerk's office is a whole different place Yeah So I think does the police department have brought processes in place for dealing and interacting with the public He has worked on something today, and I think I'll let him speak for himself, okay So I just wanted to know that It has come to my attention that we really need to have something in place starting tomorrow restaurants and virus will be closed until April 6th So except for takeout, so I mean it's we're not alone by any means My son has a restaurant in New Hampshire and he called me tonight the restaurants closed because the governor closed them And he has 2,000 pounds of corned beef For tomorrow, so if you're hungry, let me know Yeah, but he's gonna do takeout Try to sell it So that's all I had in that brand Let's see here, so Thank you Diane Pam are you on the phone? I'm great great. We are ready to hear from you Pam DeAndrea from the regional planning is on the phone with us and you have in front of you the drawings of the from the design of the stormwater program that The consultant watershed consultants has come up with and Pam I'm just going to let you explain of what the board is looking at they do John we've been working on this project Someone give me just a one time. Yeah It's a project that we looked at. I'm sorry Pam. I didn't hear you Yeah, why don't you that would be good Yeah, yes, thank you All right, so John is our new board member so maybe if you'd give him a background on the project that would be great We had excuse me Pam if I could interrupt Yeah, I was just going to interrupt you for a minute. I just wanted it understood that these five We're part of a grant that provided this service Under that grant that people did not have to pay for School Is this she see one point zero Andre Okay We're there go ahead I'm Andre, I'm sorry. Is this are we talking to school? Are we talking Jimmy sweet? Okay, then we're on the wrong One point oh is the school Yeah No wonder Go ahead we're looking at The existing conditions plan see one dot zero Yeah, we don't have a proposed conditions plan for the we don't have that I guess yeah We have the cover sheet with the aerial photos and then existing conditions plan one point oh for the school No one point oh for the chimney sweep it goes straight to 2.0 proposed conditions plan for the chimney sweep We have a see two point. Oh, yeah 2.0 that has chimney sweep on it Are you on a time schedule to present this to the board? Yeah, just give us a general Can we pause just for a second? What's the outcome that we're looking for here from this conversation? Just so I'm putting them in the right frame of mind I Think that's a good idea go ahead I Don't We're going to be moving more quickly to And then also in the future the idea of being what I believe is now is going to You know So that's that's kind of just the general goal of a project From the parking lot parking lot and from the access And basically bring it down into a what's called a buyer attention area that would be located As you're driving up the access road, you know, you guys are driving in the school Right there before you get to the red on the right That's to the orchard That's one feature the other two features that we're looking at Fibers So if there's questions on that, I'm happy to entertain them, and then I think we're going to look at the chimney sweep site, which we also do have a plan for, so I'd describe that. I think we're ready for the chimney sweep one. In the chimney sweep, you do have the C2 going to, I believe, right? Yes. Here at the chimney sweep site, there's a similar situation where essentially there's a storm matter that's discharging like we would do if we're going to go... It collects Route 302 and also collects the existing chimney sweep parking lot. Here at the Vermont Department of Labor, we're able to fight that through that crane system and trains under the chimney sweep building, and discharges through the street. So what we're proposing to do is to collect that water before it discharges through and we're going to put it into a large underground filter treatment system, which is that big box, that rectangular box, which is in the lower right-hand corner of the chimney sweep parking lot. Do you see that? So that's just something to start the matter. And that trains the water and also filters the water through the sand. That's basically designed to manage all the storm water, not just from the chimney sweep, but also even the state partially across the street, which is one of these future three-eighthly regulated sites. So we're two at two as well. So it's a, you know, the voluntary project that we're really working on, we're probably getting ahead of the game now and trying to apply some of this treatment. Getting it to the one place sooner than 10 later, having it be required. If you've been in touch with a lot of other areas, property and central offices, this particular project is completely underground. When do you anticipate this to be completed, this plan? We are approaching our 90% of the mill, so we're working on basically taking the plans from a 30%, 50% completion to a 90% completion. And I believe that 90% is also a maximum. And I don't know if you have that view in front of you. I can't remember exactly how it's going to be seen. Yeah, I'm going to get my back straight. Okay. Yeah. We're going to be basically taking that 90% to 100% and that's going to be the kind of step into one process. I think we're also done. I want to say May or June. We'll have it up. We'll help the landowner. The town and the school district in terms of the project, we're going to be treating this to be a potential partnership for treatment. Good. Okay. Any questions? Any specific comments or questions on these? Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Pam. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay. Jeff Prescott, such a remote runner, special event permit. Jeff was going to be here, but along with these two with the pandemic that he had, he did not come either. He has applied for special event permits for three events. They are three road races. The first is to be held April 25th. It's the Paul Mailman Ken Mile. It starts at Montpelier High School and goes out Junction Road, three mile Bridge Road, Jones Brook Road. They've done this a number of years. They're asking for April 25th. The next one, and the applicant is actually Central Vermont Runners. The next one is to be held June 6th. It's called the annual capital city stampede. It starts in Langdon Street in Montpelier. That also uses a portion of Junction Road. And the last that they've applied for is for August 13th. It's the runaround Berlin Pond. And what we've done in the past would allow them to use this building to tally their results. That's August 13th. Now, I do have a phone number. If you had any questions that I couldn't answer, I could call them. But it is something we have done to approve several years. And I have run it by the chief and there have not been any issues with this. Were they going to put signs up on the roads before the races? And they did do that before the races. So they would do that again. And they provide insurance as well. Motion. I'll make a motion to allow the three witnesses in the panel. For the discussion. And then those in favor. Aye. Those opposed. Those who carries. Yes, I wanted you to see the advertisement for the highway superintendent position. And get your suggestions. I've given you a copy of the advertisement for the position. I was asking for the resumes to be returned by April 17th. And I would hope that we would have a suitable candidate picked by the middle of May. With a start date. And I would like to see the advertisement for the highway superintendent position. And get your suggestions. I've given you a copy of the advertisement for the position. So we can produce a suitable candidate picked by the middle of May with a start date of about June 15. So they could work a couple of weeks with 10 before he leads. No. There's no minimum requirement on the number of years of experience. We could put that in. That's what would you think it should be? I don't know. I guess. I guess one thing is yeah, it's a good point. And I think that they have to be able to run. thinking of for experience? All management of a crew, management of a snowplow operator. So in previous select board jobs, when you have a person come on, they end up getting stuck a lot. They have all kinds of issues. They break things, not on purpose, but it's just a skill set that takes a lot to come up to speak with. So for me, the management supervisory part is as important as anything because you don't want to lose your good guys. If you have someone come in that's never managed before, sometimes they don't have those soft skills yet to be able to manage people. They end up using their good employees too. So you can fed that out through the interview process most of the time, but I don't know, it's just something to consider. I think it's a good point. I mean, obviously when you interview someone, you'd be looking for those types of things because this is a management position. I would also like it to be kind of morph into more better planning for the future. And I'm not criticizing anything that's been done now, but planning for the future I think is very important. So I'm trying to just get my head around, obviously we need someone who knows how to run the equipment and that can teach other people. That's something I would like to see more of, actual teaching of these staff pieces of equipment. I hate to put a time of experiences. I honestly don't know. The only thing that strikes me with that is if you are looking for a lot of experience, you're going to be getting a person that's only going to be with you for 10 years before retirement. And I would rather think some about maybe someone a little bit less experienced, but with a longer lifetime here. So we don't have to do this over and over. And I think like you said in the interview process, you can bet it out pretty good, pretty well. For the most part, the only ones that are going to apply are probably people who are already working a road crew. I bet we would be shocked if we had eight or ten people apply. I bet it's less than maybe a hundred. I mean, how many applied when Tim? Three? Yeah, I think you may have seven rate applications, but the short list is going to be pretty short when you're done. And again, having had a job working on a highway department doesn't necessarily, as you noted, make a very good supervisor. One good thing about this job is that it's a working supervisor. They're not an office person. Right. It would also, I think, would be if someone had less experience, you could kind of mold him or her the way that you wanted them to go. Who could? The town could. General, general. I'm picturing you in the passenger seat of the dump truck. Oh, I've been there. Yeah. Just don't put me in the driver's seat. So, I mean, for a first glance, it looks fine to me, but it's something that I may do if I was in your position was to ask the Vermont Lings of Cities and Towns to have a generalized one just to compare against. OK, good idea. Or the Vermont Local Roads has a listserv where the road guys talk back and forth all the time about bids and equipment and things like that. That might be another good place, not only to ask if someone has a job description that you can compare yours against, but also a place to post the job when it comes time. Right. OK. Good idea. So, I just wanted you to see where we were with that, so I'm going to try and get that out within the next week. OK. Think it in. The appointment of Eric Chase to the Public Works Board. We have an opening on the Public Works Board for a member, and we have Eric Chase has expressed interest in being appointed. He's been a resident of town for nine years. He works for the City of Montpelier Public Works Department, and he's also helped out with the Water Sewer Street and Equipment Divisions. Now, you know Eric. I think he'll be good for the public. Usually I ask someone to come in, but this is kind of an unusual meeting, so I didn't ask him. Yeah. Nice book to him today. He was hoping we'd have something. Yeah. He's worked for the City of Montpelier for quite a while. He's got knowledge of the... He's got some sort of public water certification. So, I mean, I think he will be... He probably has a license, yeah. Yeah, an operated water system. So, I mean, I think he would be a great asset to have on the Public Works Board. What authority does the Public Works Board have in Berlin? They really are... They have authority according to their... the ordinance, which the Board adopted earlier this year. But basically, the Board... the Select Board has authority over them. They always come to the Select Board when they have a question that they feel needs higher authority. But as far as the day-to-day operations and decisions Tom works for them that are made, they usually take care of that. And the Public Works Board is fairly new. I mean, it's only been two years, maybe? Two years. And which encompasses the water division and the sewer division. And as you know, there's a lot going on in both divisions right now with big projects. As far as authority, as far as borrowing money, no, they don't have... they don't have the authority that would come to you. Policy-wise, they create policy and we approve? Yes. Okay. Yeah. I make a motion to appoint Eric Chase to the Public Works Board. Second for motion. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries. Ah, yes. Appointment of Mack Levine to the... to the Central Vermont Solid... Yeah, Matt Levine has been the town's representative on the Central Vermont Solid Waste Management District at least for six years since I've been here. And he spoke with me at Town Meant Again and would like to be reappointed again. I think he's done a very good job with the town. I sent you the background and I was very impressed with his attendance. And he does come in and talk to the board once in a while to give you an update of what's happening. This is going to be a busy year with the food waste that will be coming up in the next few months. So he is asking for your consideration to be reappointed for a year with the food waste. Is there a motion? I make the motion to appoint Matt Levine as representative to the CBSMD. Any further discussion? And I need you to authorize the chair to sign on behalf of the board this appointment form that I will fill out. And I make the motion that the board chair sign on behalf of the motion to appoint Matt Levine as representative to the CBSMD. Your second. Okay. Any further discussion? Those in favor? Aye. Those opposed? Aye. Motion carries. Thank you. The minutes of the conservation mission. I'm just giving you, I'm thinking that I'm going to, I realized that some committees email you their minutes. And I'm not trying to duplicate efforts, but in an effort to make sure that you see them, I'm going to give you copies of them. Okay. As we go along, if you have any questions, I would be glad to seek an answer. Are they posted on our website as well? Yes. But not until they're approved? Are they drafted? No, I believe they're posted when they're drafted. Okay. And we've had, you know, some committees have been slow in getting them ready to be posted. And there is a five day turnaround. That doesn't always happen. But they have been better. Excellent. They've been working on it. Approve of sub board minutes from February 19th and February 27th. I make the motion to approve both the select board minutes of February 19th, 2020 and February 27th, 2020 is presented. Start from the motion. Any further discussion? Those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. That's saying. Okay. Motion carries. And let's see here. Was there any other thing on the additions, Dana? We have the approval of the licenses that needs to be done working on the right-of-way and the letter received from a resident. We'll start with the letter received from the resident. Okay. And I have copies for everybody. This came in today. This is a follow-up from Tim Bingham of Shed Road. He lives on the corner of Shed Road. And he is concerned about the traffic on Shed Road. If you recall that we had given permission to winter set is working for the state of Vermont as far as replacing bridge decks over Crosstown Road and exit seven. They are going to have their trailer over here and they have had trucks come in and out. Now I think when the construction starts those trucks won't be coming in and out because they'll be down at the job site. When you say trucks, are you talking pickups or heavy trucks? They have pickups and heavy trucks. And other, they have a, I don't know what you'd call it, like a ladder, a machine with a ladder that goes up. They're not using this as a staging area. No, no. They're just using this as office space. Right. Okay. I mean, they have had a lot of traffic in and out while they're getting set up. Yeah. Tim is always concerned when we have the gravel and sand delivered in the fall because there was truckload after truckload after truckload coming in and out of the driveway. And then he's, you know, and he's asking questions. Is there a rental agreement? Which, no, we don't have one. Do we get rent? No. Some of these other companies that he mentions, the line painting company, Tim allowed him to be in the yard because they painted all our lines for free. So it was kind of a, they did us a treat, a favor. So we've tried to be open about allowing people to use the yard. We don't collect any rent. There is no lease and no rental agreement. They do have the liability insurance. And they have, they have the liability insurance. And his house is very close to the road. Has anyone ever expressed concern other than Mr. Bingham? Other than Mr. Bingham? No. No. So I mean, you know, I think really the only, I mean, if you'd like me to draft a letter, I think I can draft it and, and tell him. Maybe we could be mindful about it in the future. But again, I guess the way I look at it is the public road. We've been here a long time and we have lots of trucks. The normal business operation is pretty much. And then I guess if he would like to come in, that would be fine too. He would come in. Absolutely. So I will let him know that. He's a nice gentleman. How long has he lived there? I think he's been there probably four or five years. Okay. Yeah, definitely welcome him to come in. Yeah. Sure. He has said he could not come tonight. Right. Yeah. That's the letter. Next on the. Working in the right away. Sure. This is, and this is Lajanes construction that is asking for a working in the right away permit. They are installing the water service from our water line to the building. I guess it's still first and fitness building up on Granger Road. Yeah. They're having water installed and they need to get into the road to connect to the main. How many units do they have? For first and fitness. How many? I don't know that up top of my head, Brad. I could find out. I'm just wondering. Yeah, no. But that's all part of the pre-bought. It's all part of the pre-bought and they've been in the wings to do it. They're just getting around to it now. They anticipate that the, well, this is the project in the right of ways, about $5,000. Quite often we ask for a bond. And I think that if they were to give us, usually it would give us a check rather than go through a bond process. But for $500 that we could hold, it would probably be adequate. If you were. About 10. Yeah. Motion. Move to approve the permanent order in the right of way with the $500 deposit or bond. Right. Right. Second that. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. And this is another one, the board chairman signs. In the liberal licenses. Yeah, did you want to approve the vouchers? We can do that now I guess. Yeah. I make the motion to approve the general funds accounts payable warrant number 20G17 with checks 231 to 20104 in the amount of $147,272.65. General fund auto payment NSB 20-21 in the amount of $5,661.76. Payroll warrant 20-18 for February 16, 2020 to February 29, 2020 paid on March 4, 2020 in the amount of $50,194.13. Payroll warranty 20-19 for March 1, 2020 to March 14, 2020. Payroll date on March 18, 2020 in the amount of $43,641.40. Also February 2020 general journal and tax admin entries and reconcile February bank statements for the general funds sewer commission and water division. Second the motion. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. And now a motion to enter into the liquor commission to recess the select board meeting and convene the liquor board meeting. Any second motions? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. It is. Oh, go ahead. Motion carries. Sorry. Sorry. It is renewal of liquor licenses time. And so we have, these are just given to me this afternoon, so bear with me while I look and see who they are. Dollar general at 1755 U.S. Route 302. That's wine and beer. What is it? Jason? Right, sir? That's just wine and beer. Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's a class two license. Second class license. Walmart stores. That's also second class license. Pizza Hut. All have had these. They're all renewals. I have no reason to tell you not to. When are the other restaurants supposed to renew? It's due April 1st. So we've had several that have done it. I don't know who hasn't yet. But it's April 1st for class two. Second class. Well, could you go through that and find out? Because usually we always have some straggler. Well, and here it's already passed. I mean, you know, we're in a situation now and again without, I should have asked Rosemary before she went on her trip, but I didn't think of it of what we have left because April 1st, we won't be meeting before April 1st. Yeah. We may not be able to get away from this. Why wouldn't we have a policy that just allows people, especially I get maybe a new business coming into town upon renewal without any issues? Why wouldn't we have it so they could just apply pay the fee and Rosemary or somebody could. Well, we do have that policy as a matter of fact. I thought we did for a special event. Special on things like that. We've not really included the annual license renewal in that. But certainly Rosemary knows the customers that are, you know. So our policy as it is now the select board or the town clerk can do it? Right now the town clerk can approve catering applications. That's true. Yeah. Being new, I have a procedural question. I'm a little confused on why we exited out of the select board meeting. Because the Lyft Commission is not the select board. And that's in our charter? Or is that just a separate commission that we created? That's what it's always been done. That's a great question. That's a great answer. Oh, he's done it that way. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in Northfield, you know, separate towns, separate everything, I get it. But the select board just went through the same process. You guys go through now and we're going through and just approved them. And we didn't have a separate. As part of the select board meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just curious. I didn't know if there was something in the charter that... I don't believe so. I don't believe it's anything in the charter. I think what it was is the previous select boards have always tried to keep the two separated. I mean, it's the same board, but it was a different decision. I think statute makes them separate. Unless your charter doesn't, which Northfield probably... It's like the wild west over there. I was going to say perhaps Northfield. That's what I'm doing. That's right. However, I will find out. I was just curious. Because it is an interesting question. Definitely. I hate it when I have to say, gee, we'll always tell them. Condition. Yeah. So right now Rosemary can approve the catering permits. But she cannot approve these. Is there any reason why we wouldn't want her to be able to approve them? I guess if you're asking me, I'd say no, I can't figure one. I think the only thing I've ever heard is when a business has several infractions against it, the select board or the liquor commission can say, you know, if that's three infractions, is this really the type of place we want to sell alcohol to? I believe what happens, I mean, if we have for the catering licenses, if Rosemary gets one, she does not know and is not familiar with. She's going to kick it up to you. If it gets, because the next step goes over to the state. And if they have an issue, there's going to be a problem. Right. Usually she would know about the problem before we sent it over because they would notify her of any problems. So right now, I guess what we can do, Dana, is put it on another agenda. And we can take it as a thing to do. And we can take and discuss it because we really should have Rosemary's input on it too. And I will check a little bit into exactly what the law is and why we do separate it out. The thing that worried me is if the state is requiring some sort of a liquor commission, then I don't see if we could really pass it on to Rosemary. I do know that in Barry City, for example, the city clerk does it all. No, she brings it to the council. Oh, does she bring it to the council? Yeah. I think they checked the laws here. I guess we can go from there. Right. At any rate, can we talk into these? Yep. I was going to say, as the liquor commission, can we take and approve these or have a motion to approve or disprove? To approve the liquor licenses that Dana presented. I second the motion. Any further discussion? Those in favor? Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries. So these get signed under the approved section. By all of us. Yeah. The recess. I second the motion. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Motion carries. The ten administrators report, Dana. I had given you a list of, and some of these maybe cross over in both categories, but a list of, outstanding items that I'm working with or not working with is a case maybe. And also I wanted to the board to think about goals for this, for this year. I've got one for increased revenue sources. I have one for increased revenue sources. I have one for increased revenue sources. I have one for increased revenue sources. I've got one for increased revenue sources. Tree tapping. Or the local, maybe looking into local option tax. Again. Or maybe. And any others? I thought. I was, I would think that we'd want to talk about like, is there a little bit of homework? Mm-hmm. I mean, everything you do, John. We're going to figure out how to pay for some of this stuff. Right. Well, that's what I'm looking for here. Which direction you'd like to go? One of the things, I've got private calls to replace them, please. Call me, please. One of the things that I had written down to was, I want to make sure we look at that tax stabilization policy. Yeah, I've got a tax table that says you're ready, right? Yeah. Great. Yeah. Right there. And then I think you'd want to involve the economic. Right. The admin council. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That would be nice. Yeah. Yeah, I just, yeah, we're just going to start checking some stuff off, right? Mm-hmm. That would be nice, wouldn't it? Yeah. Tentastily, we have a meeting for the sixth with the Public Works Board. I'm waiting on a few confirmations on that. I think I'm ready to bring back to you the road classification change policy with a little different added wording. We're working together. And we are still waiting for the hazard mitigation plan to be reviewed by Vermont Emergency Management. And I imagine we'll be waiting since they're pretty busy right now. Did you find out about the, about who gets to do the emergency management here in Berlin? Well, we had talked about that. And the best, I don't know if I understand it yet. And so I need to do a little more. But, you know, they're saying that it's the entire board when we have no emergency management director, that it's the entire board and the board makes the decision, which I'm not questioning, but it seems to be a little cumbersome, yeah. What decision are you speaking of? We don't have an emergency management director. Okay. And so the job falls back on the select board. That's because we don't have a town fire department? No. It's the emergency management director. Any time is the fire chief. In our case, it's not. We have an emergency management committee, and we have maybe four or five people on that, but nobody wants to be chairman. Are you a volunteer? I was just trying to learn. Anyway, Brad, I'll, when I have more, I'll go back to your man. Was that it for the, what else did I want to, oh, and I gave you a list of what the openings on, on committees were, although you just filled the public works board. I also want to ask you, I was supposed to meet with the recreation committee this week, having meetings during this pandemic. I would assume if we only have four or five people that would be okay to do that. Yeah. I mean, I just need, you know. I think so. I mean, if we could spread out a little bit. Well, I could put tables over there. No, I'm just, I'm just thinking, like, as far as the, you know, what they're, what they're suggesting. Yeah. Okay. All right, well then. I mean, they said 10 people, no more than 10 people in a day, or you recommended guidance with 10 people. Yeah. Okay. So I've done that. I believe this Saturday there is going to be an apple tree pruning workshop down at the friendship park on route 12. Dave Wilcox is, is running it along with the conservation commission. And as far as I know, it's going to happen. And that's all I have. I'm going to try to talk with the Berlin corner cemetery again. I don't know if I want to try to reach out to them there if you have. And they haven't responded. Rather came to us. Well, of course, as you know, they did come to us and expressed that they were going to run into financial problems in future years. And the time just donated $10,000 to them in the FY 21 year. Yeah. Do you tell them so, or are we? Well, so I guess at some point it is going to come to a head that there's going to have to be a decision made about the cemetery. It would maybe be worth us looking at it before they were out of funds and donating many, many years of extra. I think they have asked it somewhere in the $300,000 range at the moment. Are the board openings listed on the website and all of that? Yes. Yep. That's how I am able, I finally learned that if I do that, then I, then I satisfy the requirement to have them posted 10 days. Do you know the percentage of the Berlin population that can see the select board meeting on TV? It's on, is it on TV? I can't see it. I don't. It's on the internet. On the work media. On the Comcast, at least on our TV is channel 15. Okay. So this section of town that has Comcast, I guess, can see it on television. Yeah. But I mean, is it posted to YouTube? It's on the, it's on the website. Yeah. Is it supposed to be YouTube and everything else on the work media? Yeah. It's readily available. As long as you have it. Many people do watch it. Well, the reason I was asking was just around the open seats, you know, actually saying you're not allowed, may more people understand what we have if they're not going to go to the website, you know, the conservation commission and the development review board and the public works board. Well, we just filled that one. Recreation board and the cemetery commission are the open seats that we have. At least if someone's listening, they can hear it. Definitely express an interest. Anything else, Dana? That's all I have. Thanks. Okay, round table. Justin. Nothing. Nothing. The only thing I have is when we wanted to discuss the ladies positions to any of the boards from the board itself. I was going to do that at the next meeting. Oh, I see. Because I'm also going to have that meeting, the people who were on those boards that terms are expiring. Makes sense. I am going to be, so I thought I'd do it all. That makes total sense. Yeah. That's the only thing. So, you all set? Yes. Thank you. Okay. Any executive session? Yes, please. I make the motion to enter executive session to discuss a personnel matter pursuant to one BSA section 313A2.