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If you do call in on the phone, you can use star six to mute or unmute. We don't have that many people on right now. It's all members or the applicant, so I'm not going to worry about making sure everybody's muted. Please note that in the future, if we have a large group, large number of attendees, I will probably just have everybody muted. Maybe except for the board members and people have to raise their hands and ask to be unmuted if they want to talk. Please reserve the Zoom chat function for troubleshooting or logistic questions only. I will now turn the meeting back over to the chair. Okay. Tonight we have in front of us an application from 585 Elm Street. The owner applicant is Isaac Lawrence and it's a sketch plan review for a two lot subdivision. And if people want to just give us a very brief overview and then we'll let Isaac speak. That would be really helpful. So, like you said, it's a two lot subdivision. There's already a home with. Remember quickly, because it feels like it's been a really long while since I wrote this. More than one dwelling unit on it. I can't remember if it's 2 or 3 right now. 3 dwelling units. And there's more than enough room on the parcel density wise for more dwelling units he's proposing to roughly split the parcel down the middle. One of the complications here is that it does about the north branch of the Winooski River. And so for 1 of the few times in the 5 years I've been here, the board does have to consider the river hazard area regulations in that. When that comes up for subdivision, you need to consider the developability of the parcel given that floodplain situation. Now, the applicant has gotten what we call a Loma, a letter of map amendment that does is a more detailed review of where that flood hazard line is. And that shows on the plans to show what land is high enough that is out of the special flood hazard area or their floodplain and shows where the land is that's more apt more easily developed. And here, of course, you also have to deal with river corridor. It's one of the few stretches of river in Montpelier where we have what is called the river corridor, which puts even tighter limitations on what can be done with the land. But that's again all still within that special flood hazard area where the river corridor is so it's a consideration. As outlined in my staff report, I don't think it's something that should hold up the subdivision process because there's still enough developable land outside of those those high risk areas for new development. So, that's my overview. I think maybe you'd like to just give us a little introduction and sort of what your what's your project looks like. Absolutely. So, thank you Meredith for covering the basics there. So, we bought this property November of 2022. This is extraneous information, but I grew up in Montpelier we're hoping to move back someday in the near future. And, yeah, so we are hoping to subdivide as Meredith outlined the parcel about in half leaving the three unit, what used to be a farmhouse now has three apartments, a barn and a garage on what we call lot one. And create a new lot on lot two so the property really is. There's about, I don't know a third of it that is more or less at the grade of Elm Street and then a bunch of it is down just a few feet above the Winooski River. So, the hope is that lot to the newly created lot that there'd be plenty of space within the setbacks to build probably a single family home up there on the high portion of the land. And as we've seen since we purchased the property, flooding is a consideration in Montpelier and elsewhere in the state so that's the place we want to be. We want to be high and dry with any, any potential future development there. Not. Yeah, other than that, I mean, I think, you know, just a pretty basic two lot subdivision. So I would really turn it over to the board for questions, comments, concerns. Okay. Meredith, can you, can you pull up the map of the proposed subdivision? Yeah, do you want to see the plat, which is what is specifically just the lines? Or do you want to see the site plan that also shows where that flood hazard line is? Yes, please. Thanks. All right, can you see that? All right, so this dotted line that's a little straight or is a line that where they've moved things to in the what's called the Loma so that everything to the right is considered to be part of the special flood hazard area. And then to the left is the land that would be considered outside of there. I noted in the, in the staff report that this line may or may not also represent where the river corridor line is. So we'll probably want to see what that river corridor line is as well. Well, not we probably well we will need to see that. But it's it's very, if it's not exactly the same, it's very, very similar, based on my review of the GIS mapping. Isaac, what's the plan for for access to the to the rear lot there. So it's not. You say rear lot, Rob. Yeah, the front lot was 400 on the river. To be clear, Elm Street ones, they both have frontage on Elm Street. In the one case lot one has 126 feet lot two has 133 feet self lot one where the existing houses would just keep it circular driveway there. Lot two, we have a potential driveway location just from Elm Street. So just be a straight shot. We need a single curb cut for lot two. Yeah, the new in case you because you're just calling it on the phone Rob. If you didn't pick up the, the, the, the new lot, the new line being created runs from Elm Street straight back to the river. Yeah, sorry. I must have looked at something different a couple weeks ago. Yeah, well there's I mean you can see where it says there's a dotted line that says dimensional line established for removal of area from the floodplain. That's that's a river hazard area line. It's not a new like parcel line. It might be confusing that one. It's confusing also because the parcels are labeled on the back on the river corridor. Oh, yeah, yeah. So maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe that's just something to tweak Isaac when we do this when you do this for final is make sure that there's lot one lot two numbers are actually closer to the road. That would be helpful. Yeah, I think we'll brighten up the lot lines too. Yeah, a little more distinction between what those are and because there's, there's a lot of information. It's not your, it's not your fault. There has to be a lot when we've got the floodplain involved. Okay. I guess the question I had a question about. And it seems like it seems like the proportion or the part of the parcel that is not in the flood zone that is not in the river hazard area. Is not a subject. Is there a steep slope concern there. In the front part of that parcel. I don't think so. But we could get some mapping done. I mean, that would have to be considered for any future potential subdivision to right. Sorry, future potential development. Right. But that would, but that would come up with, with the next, you know, whenever you, whenever you brought that in as the next project. Right, right as part of the subdivision. I have two questions. One has to do with a staff comment about the conservation commission. Needing to weigh in has there any been any intel on that. Um, so I have not heard back from them yet. I know a lot of people have done on vacation and they actually at their just like their meeting that was supposed to occur like the same day as ours the day before or something like that. A couple days before ours that got canceled because of the flooding. They decided to move their meetings to a different day of the month. So I have to, I just realized found that out today. So I have to chase them down because they have not, I have not gotten confirmation from them on an agenda of getting this on their agenda yet. Um, I did send it to the chair and the staff. So I'm chasing on that. And we'll get, I'll make sure that those comments are incorporated before you see this for a final. And I had had to do with landscaping, but particularly with any existing. Significant landscape features such as mature trees or whatever on lot to. So there are three apple trees. That are fairly mature. That are, I guess, probably the easiest way to describe it is they are on the north side of the lot. A distance from Elm Street about equal to where the barn is just general vicinity there a lot too. And the hope would be so, I mean, you know, if we're going to put a proposed or a possible. Oh, site. The hope would be, and it certainly is possible on the site. Up on the high area to have a house within the setbacks. That doesn't touch those trees. I will say one of the trees that was just reported to me has split in half. So I think there's now two trees. But nothing else. No wonderful elements that escaped. There we go. The big ones on lot one. It's out in front of the barn. You can see the trees below. So did you say one of these apple trees here in the back split. Yeah, it were pruned very in a very aggressively flat way and it leaves them susceptible in the core so it had no canopy in the middle at all. And they're prone to rot and split that way. Unfortunately. And what's the, what's the tree and the far right of my screen farther from the house that one. That's actually that's way back behind the other house. There's see the softwoods here. That tree is on the other parcel I think because there's a fence. Got it. Yeah. I'll go a little bit further along except for the apple trees. It's an open flat space. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Except and there are these three. These are on the property to these three or whatever they are. Bruce pine, whatever. Yeah. Sort of looked like screening that was put into screen from the neighbors and everybody sort of built that up there. You know that one of the things that we had talked about, we had another subdivision, another two lot subdivision, I think it was on Gallison Hill Road. Where we talked about requiring any kind of landscaping plan and then feeling the board at that point was that with it to lots of division that could really be left up to future owners to decide that. That wasn't something that we necessarily needed to weigh in on. Other questions from people. Brian. Other questions from the applicant. Thanks. So Meredith has. Isaac, I think maybe your internet might be going so maybe turn off your video and try that again because you were in and out. No, I don't think I have any questions, Meredith. You've hopefully laid out in email what the rest of the process looks like. Yeah, I think it's far sketch plan goes. I don't really have any additional questions. I think pretty straightforward. We need to move on to the next step here from far as I'm concerned. Okay. We don't have any further questions and I think we need to do anything further there. We look forward to seeing your final application. I think Meredith has given good cues to what the final application needs to account for. And they don't seem to be any large red flags erosion control maybe. Yeah, and that'll be the erosion control would be more for the next for the development phase. So, yeah, we'll need to, I'll, I'll make sure to keep Isaac updated on my discussions with the conservation commission to make sure he can coordinate with them. And get their input. And Isaac and I'll work together on the final tweaks to the rest of the package. And move forward from there, it sounds like. Thanks very much, Isaac coming in. I'll send you a copy of the minutes once their final Isaac. So, because there's any decision from tonight, the record will be the minutes, but you and I can email back and forth about. You know, what anything that you have questions on the staff report. And like I said about the conservation commission. So feel free to email or call if you have any questions before you hear from me. Yeah, you are, you are definitely cutting out. Well, I guess I can sign off. Have a nice night. Okay, thank you very much. I have a question. Yeah. It's under other business and it's trivial, but are we going to get to meeting chambers again. I'm just about to say something about this and we're talking at the beginning there and it sounds like it's not a lot Meredith explained, but yes, it sounds like we will pretty soon maybe even. So my hope is that by at least the second meeting in February, we'll be back in chambers and doing the hybrid city council is holding their first hybrid in council chambers tomorrow. So they would kind of like to be allowed to do that at least twice before they start throwing additional committees in there. So we want to make sure that they work out any bugs with orca and the wiring that's in there. So assuming that that all goes well, then what we would do is for the once we get the all clear, it would be for the next warned meeting right because we have to send up public hearing notices so many weeks in advance of the actual hearing well before the agenda about the location of the meeting. So the earliest it would probably be is the second February meeting. Because we've already warned the one for January 16 we already have an application for that and the deadline for the first February meeting is what January 12. So I think the earliest we would meet in chambers should be end of February but it is there was a light at the end of the tunnel. The public would just zoom until until renovations are over right there may be there may be times when we can't you know because there's talk about those meeting spaces becoming offices but you would think that before that happened they'd create the new room somewhere else first to try and have some sort of some sort of you know, relatively smooth at least not like drop off cliff drop off transition. But it's, you know, we got all sort of keeper keeper roller skates on. But yes, that's that's I was going to actually like that up if nobody asked. That is some good news. Coming away we do have an application for the 16th. So feel free to take a look at the pending applications page for that. It is another request to amend approval conditions. I think it should be fairly straightforward. It's just adjusting again it's adjusting a deadline on one of the conditions of approval of a prior project. And then a reminder that we have Tuesday meetings in January. And then we'll actually have another one in February to so we've got a lot of Tuesday meetings. Why do we have Tuesday meetings, because the Monday holidays MLK right right. Yep. So next one it's MLK and then in February the city actually shuts down for President's Day. I'll take it my kids don't have that day off. I guess everybody. Thank you. I guess that's the meeting adjourned because there's actually no quorum now. Okay. Thanks very much everybody.