 It's live. I guess I can tell people we're doing it. Well, let's just do a podcast like normal. Get the sun out of my eyes. I have no way to get the sun out of your eyes. What am I going to do for the rest of the freaking month while the sun is in this room? I guess I can get the curtains fixed. Yeah, why? Where is the curtain? It's over there. We took it down. Why did you do that? Because we were changing stuff. Why would you take down that curtain? I just did it. Why do you just did it? Because we got new curtains in the other room, but we never actually put new curtains in this room. Because it wasn't that important. But you need a curtain. Why? Food down is too hard to take apart. So we never actually use it for guests. So the only person who ever sits down is you. Great. You in the show? I can't see. It's actually hurting my eyes even though my eyes are closed. It'll go down soon enough. We just wait. No, it's actually in the worst possible position. Yeah, it'll keep going down. I'll be home by the time before it's down. All right, so I got my news, got my thing of the day. I can't even look at my laptop. I see my news and my thing of the day. So we're doing a show on hats. I guess. I got nothing better. That is our crab people that have survived through crab land. All right, Ben. I don't know if I share this thing. Like tweet out that we're doing it. In the top right, right in bed. Yep. Then you click, see the URL? That short URL. I see it. Let me tweet it out. That's what you do. Twitter.com. As heatnights. Tweet it as me and heatnights. You should tweet as heatnights and then retweet it. Yeah, yeah. I am it to me. All right, yeah, you log in and tweet it. Stop moving. There you are. All right, I'm getting audition going. We're good to go. I actually had, I realized they had some head anecdotes. We do, stolen hats. I was about to say it when the fucker stole my hat. I had a hat on the show before. 2005 probably. I can't imagine we've talked about that again since, because that was a long time ago. A very long time ago. If I lean to the left, far away from the microphone, the sign is out. So I mess up my audio. 14. All right, we did do a show on Tuesday. Oh, so I have to do lefts, right? I got a text message from you that said, I'm my way. So it came late to both Sprint and Google. So I think 18T was the bullet. I think Google voice. But your tweet text to me was late, even directly on Sprint. So you didn't tweet at all? I did not tweet at all. Get a tweet? I just tweeted. All right. Let's start this interview before I come in. Let me do the opening for a second. But I guess it's automatically Google pluses, right? We don't need to go in Google pluses. I guess. I'm barely paying attention how this thing works right now. I mean, the last one worked. OK, just by just putting all effort into it. Yeah, it's already on Google plus, so I'll put some money. Oh. All right. Let's do it. That's all working. Hey, it's Thursday, June 14th, 2012 on RIM. I'm Sky. This is Geek Nights. Tonight, hats. Because we couldn't think of anything better. That's every episode. That's how to do the flash, Gordon. I don't know. It's a single syllable word you can say with an A in it. Like, hats. Hats. Hats. Great. So I got a funny story that I think relates to a funny story you had. My GoPro fucking fell off my bike while I was riding. But yours is still in one piece, right? Well, because I caught it in my hand and then it fell. So I picked it up right away and it was fine. The mount literally, like I was riding, and the mount just like went wobble, wobble, wobble and before my brain could react, the thing just fell out of nowhere. It just cleaved in two. Yeah, mine. All right. So broken the exact same way. Around the same time yours is broken. I didn't even realize it was falling. It was just like clickity, clickity, clickity. And I was like, whoa, and I picked it up. But then I got a new one. I emailed them and I was like, hey, that shit broke. And they sent me a free replacement. So I put the free replacement on. I broke it and I didn't even realize it. I had to backtrack. Luckily I found the GoPro lying in the middle of the road about five blocks back on my route and going against traffic to search for it. But the camera was completely destroyed. Like smash, smash, like hulk? Well, it was in the shield, right? The black clip on top of the shield that keeps the shield sealed. You knew what I was laughing at. Yeah. That black clip was just shattered in pieces that I picked up off the ground, right? Yup. The shield itself was mostly in one piece. It just has some scarring on the back of it, the back part. But how the camera is smashed? The camera is in one piece. The LCD part is smashed. The button... There's still LCD. Yeah, on the front. It's a little tiny one. Oh, whoa, okay, that thing. It's smashed. The buttons, you can't press them, right? And from far away it looks like it's in one piece. You get close to it and you realize it's like gork, right? And basically it's non-functional. So, GoPro, I want to point out the same mount that you sell broke three times in New York like biking around town, biking. This wasn't like hardcore mountain biking. Yeah, this was not jumping off a cliff skiing or skydiving. This wasn't even like jumping over curbs. Yeah, this is regular old just biking around the city. This mount breaks. This is why I realized third-party companies are selling metal mounts, which I ordered. So I emailed GoPro and I'm like, hey, this time the mount broke again, which is bullshit. But my camera broke because your mount was faulty. And they're like, well, we'll give you half off a new camera. And I'm like... You should take him to a small claims court or something. Well, I mean, it's like a can because it's like a warranty. I'm like, I don't want to be that indignant lady. Because I can't complain about the indignant lady and be the indignant lady. But at the same time, there is a big difference. Indignant ladies, that particular brand of person, will annoy everybody else around them and be in their way. You can't get away from that lady. It's not indignant lady if you're doing it on your own quietly through the court. I'm still bothering this customer service person. It's not their fault, right? They're not the person who made the shitty mount or decided the warranty policy. If GoPro just had a little thing that said like, warning, don't actually use this on a bike. It'll break. Yeah, this bike mount that we have pictures of using on a bike. Yes, next to your purportedly indestructible camera. Yeah. But anyway, so I guess I bought the surf edition for half off to replace the one I had, because at least that way I'll get some new accessories I didn't have before. And that also offered me a free mounting accessory. So I guess I'm getting the wrist strap. Oh, we could use that for something. That would be the only accessory that would be of any use. That in our own. Right, but here's what you gotta do. If you have a GoPro, they only really show examples of this in these surfing examples. But if you mount it to something and you're moving it out at all, you should also tether it to that something with a rope. I do that when I ski, because the thing is biking, alright, I can go back and get it. But apparently in your case that didn't really work. But if I'm skiing. You're down a hill and it's now, this camera is up the hill. It is basically impossible to go back up the hill. You have to turn 90 degree sideways and go right left. It depends. I can do a sort of fishbone thing where you're walking forward. And there's a couple of ways to do it, but it's a pain in the ass. It sucks and it hurts. And if I go all the way down and ski back up like in a real mountain. Alright, it's been an hour. Let's see if it's still there. If I get to find it. And you gotta stop before you get to it. What if you stop below it? Yeah, I would cry. I think I would just cry. Just a grown man would just cry. You could ask the ski patrol to help you get it. Yeah, actually luckily one thing you could do is, if you ever drop anything skiing, nothing you'll ever go skiing. I get the impression. Yeah. You can just basically, if anyone's coming down the hill, they'll be like, hey! And they'll usually grab whatever you drop and give it to you. That's not bad. Just the GoPro's kind of tiny. Usually it's like a ski pole. And it's gonna be buried in the snow. Yeah, or a ski or something that they're picking up for me. So yeah, GoPro, I guess we could leverage our negative publicity machine. Whatever. And the thing is it became a little more frustrating because the way they worded their customer service email was pretty much like, order a new one, then tell us the order number, then we'll take half off, right? So I'm like, okay, I did that. And then they're like, yeah, there was a miscommunication. You actually have to sort of, you know, send us a picture of your receipt and then we'll send you a coupon code. The picture of my receipt means an email? I guess. And I'm like, what the fuck? You told me to do this. And then they're like, no. And I sent them the quote from the email that they originally did. What did they say to that? They sent the quote of the full email and actually just the way their email was worded is there was a sentence later in the email that was like about the coupon code. Oh, so you got it on there. Yeah, but the thing- Fully written, but- It was poorly written, but- But just have your thing on the forum. Read all the words for your dumbass. I guarantee if you would have gotten the same email, you would have done the same stupid thing. You know, we hadn't talked about this. You could have showed me the email and be like, what do you do? And you could have seen. But now we can't because now I know. It doesn't matter. It's still, the point is, is that their mount broke. They should have replaced the camera, which is a lot of money. They shouldn't sell the mount that clearly- That clearly is faulty and they know it's faulty. If you go to Amazon Reviews, everyone says you had this mount break. It's not class action. The Amazon Reviews for the metal mounts from the third party company are like, man, this thing's overpriced, but it works. I'll probably just get it because I want to start getting it again. Like 60 bucks for like a metal ring with a stick coming out of it. It's a bunch of bullshits. That's bullshit. Make your own. I don't know how to- Ah! Ah! Ah! So, I really have news per se. It's Thursday. The lounge. Your mom. But we didn't go see Prometheus. So, I guess I want to geek-bite it a little bit. All right. You know what? It was a pretty good movie. Dude gets his guts ripped open, his liver gets pecked, and they just geek-peck out of it. This is a movie. This is the first time in my life there was an early scene with an automated surgery table, and by God, was that not Chekhov's surgery table? Everyone knew that. I saw the thing, I was like, somebody's going to have an alien extracted from their abdomen with that thing within the bounds of this movie. And sure enough, I don't even consider that a spoiler. Nope. There's an automated surgery table. That was pretty much the best scene in the whole movie, though. It was the movie using of the Chekhov surgery table. The second best scene, not to spoil anything, is when one person asks another person a question, and then that person's like, oh, and then he answers it. I don't remember which scene. The question that we didn't understand. Oh, yeah. And the way it was answered. Yeah. That was a good scene. But the movie was pretty good. The special effects were great. I like how they use 3D in this movie, because I've seen most 3D movies that I have seen either have the shit coming at you, or they're really just like, it's shoehorned in and done poorly. But for me, these were actually filled with 3D cameras. And it showed. It was night and day compared to other 3D movies. Yeah, but that's the thing. They didn't have anything coming at you. And at the same time, they didn't really go, whoa, 3D, whoa. So it's like, a lot of times, you just don't even notice. That's the best way to use 3D. But you might as well never have the 3D. Why? Then it's atmospheric. Notice how now I can focus on the foreground, the background, and you've got this really big sense of space and the contrast between the wide open areas on the planet and the confined areas inside and the depth of the tunnel. But it really showed every time there was a user interface to a thing. That was breathtaking. I think what you really got to do to make 3D... Did that stuff come out at the screen? No. Because that's what you seem to be going for. No. See, the problem with all 3D, whether you've got IMAX, 3D, OmniMax, any kind of 3D movie that we have now, is that even though there's some sort of depth perception, you can tell that that's farther away, that's sort of closer. It's still a two-dimensional image. You can't lean your head to the left and look behind the thing a little bit. If they could make it do that somehow, don't ask me how. I don't think it knows possible. I don't really want that. But that's the thing, it's not really 3D because it's really just a square and some pieces of the rectangle are closer, but there's nothing behind them. They're not round. There's nothing behind them. It's not really 3D. Ah, but at the same time, you can argue that for most movies, there's a camera angle, and by giving people leeway to poke around in there, then now all those elements that previously in a screenplay don't have to be worried about, have to be worried about, makes it harder for a director to actually have a unified vision. Well, I mean, the thing is, right, is how much can you really move your head and move, right? It doesn't need to be much. Yeah, do what you want. You want to move from another angle. You want the televisions from that fucked-up show that I've talked about that I seem to be the only person in the world that remembers this and watched it from my generation. But Wild Palms, the plot of Wild Palms... Oh, the hologram people? Yeah, other than being about Scientology, is that they make a device that replaces TV that sits in the living room and the action just takes place in 3D in your living room. Yeah, it doesn't need to be the hologram in the middle of the room. I just want it to be, to really enhance that 3D effect is, you know, there's like a ball on the screen. If I lean my head a little bit to the left, it should be like, you know, like my angle should change. That can't be done. It can't be done right now for multiple people at the same time. I know. Without everyone having active glasses as opposed to passing. I know. And by active, I mean more active than anything. But anyway. I'm saying that's what really makes action. I guess I'm just saying, if 3D is... If, you know, doing the subtle 3D, the way it's done is probably the right way to use it without making your movie into an amusement park ride. But what I'm saying is, it's not really that much. You know, it's like, you can see in 3D and be just fine because the 3D doesn't add that much. But if it added that, that little angle is... So that would be a significant... I would disagree in that there are a few scenes in Bermetia that if they weren't in 3D would not have been nearly as prepped in. Especially when they turn on the hug on the alien thing. And well, you once argued that the aesthetics are meaningless. So, anyway. But, I like this... Movies like this that use 3D in this way are the kinds of movies that will make 3D actually be just a technology that's used or unused properly as opposed to a gimmick. Because, for the last, what? 40 plus years it's been a gimmick every time 3D is being used. It was a gimmick for so many years, right? Because our 3D technology was sort of crappy, right? Red and blue 3D doesn't really work that well. Now, the 3D actually kind of sort of works. Yeah. That's the reason, you know, and you can do it with these cheap plastic glasses. You know, it's not that intrusive like it used to be. But in terms of Bermetia, it's a pretty good movie. I liked it better than Life Adventures, but not by that much. And it raises good questions, but there's a big discussion going on in our forums. I've seen a lot of similar discussions around the internet. I'm not arguing it's the greatest movie in the world. It's by no means. Aliens and Aliens are both much better movies. No kidding. But for Meteos, there are things that you can legitimately complain about both from a semi-objective critical standpoint and from a taste like I liked or didn't like the standpoint, but the majority of the criticisms I've seen online are basically bullshit. Like, they're the criticisms of someone who didn't actually watch the movie, or at least someone who didn't pay attention. They'll complain about things that they'll say like, I didn't understand X or why it didn't make sense, but actually it made perfect, people say the same things about anything that's sort of weird and ambiguous, right? Instead of being just a literal, straightforward, what you see is... Except the thing they complain about are literal and straightforward. They're like, why did the guy, you know, giggle and mess around with the alien? Well, he was high. No, but I'm saying like, something that wasn't explicitly stated, right? No, but I'm saying things that were pretty much explicitly stated were also points of confusion. But I mean, but I'm saying it's not... there's a difference between explicitly stated as in, oh yeah, there was a shot of the guy getting high versus, you know, the constant reminder for dumb people that is in a lot of media in the United States. Like, you showed the guy getting a little guy, and it says, I hit you, you little guy, so there's no way you can miss it, right? As opposed to, you watch a lot of anime, right? You watch Utena, and it's like, yeah, they showed it to you for like a second, and if you weren't paying attention, because you have no attention span, you would have missed it. And, you know, if you weren't actually, you know, focusing on the action and looking at all the things on the screen, you would have missed that. So, you know, because they didn't hammer it into people, they don't have attention spans, they don't have focus, they miss things that aren't repeated or really focused on and highlighted with, you know, big spotlights on them, right? So any movie that doesn't have all those things, or book or anything like that, a lot of people just miss those things, and then they say, it made no sense, it made sense to me, just like even in Utena, it made perfect sense to me, I know exactly what's going on, right? There's no ambiguity, like, ooh, I can explain any scene, I'll tell you what's going on, right? But a lot of people are like, it makes no sense, but there are things out there that make no sense, these aren't them. I guess that's my point. The things that people say made no sense are actually the things that were the most obvious, and people, I would have a lot more respect for these criticisms if they actually touched on the things that seem more legitimately confusing or poorly done. Anything that's not perfect can be criticized, which is everything. Well, in general, I see, nerds in general seem to mess up two things when they try to critique something that they like, or that they hate. One, they confuse not liking a character with the character being well-represented. Well, I mean, pretty much it's the same thing we've been discussing for 10 billion years. A lot of people, they don't like Katniss in the Boa Hunger Games, but really what they're saying is I don't like teenage girls and I don't want to read about what a teenage girl is doing, which is fine. That means you don't like Hunger Games because you don't like that kind of story, that kind of character, but it doesn't mean that it's not an accurate representation of that character well-presented. Now, just to say, this is the same thing we've discussed a billion years and billion times that people will never think about, and that is what separates people who can validly critique something and people who can't is people who can separate their personal feelings from their evaluation of a thing. No matter what that thing is or what category it is, you just go on the internet and you find people arguing about anything, a video game, a book, a movie, right? And people will, 99 times out of a Jillian, well, 99.9. Keep up in the ante on these numbers here. Yeah, the overwhelming majority of the time, almost 100% of the time, somebody, if they like the thing, they will argue the thing is good and if they don't like the thing, they will argue that it is not good. Well, as funny as I remember when I said- Because people cannot separate their personal feelings. When I said in the forum that Avengers was okay. People acted like I told them that their puppy is a bad puppy and I'm going to kill it and then I actually killed my puppy. Right, they have personal feelings for Avengers and therefore, they got good feelings in their body when they watched the movie. They had good emotions. They got- No, no, no, Scott, they got to get fun of the way you present. We had the same argument. You present it in somewhat more caustic fashion. What's caustic about this? I don't know, you phrase this. People watch a thing or read a thing, remember? Yeah. And they feel good. It gives them good feelings. It scratches their edge. They like it. They enjoy it. Therefore, they say that makes the thing good. That is not the case, right? I get good feelings watching- Scott, there's this unspoken- You're making an unspoken argument that you are there for the Earthmage. No, I'm making an unspoken argument. The unspoken argument is that I have the ability to separate my personal feelings from evaluating things. And many people, if they have that ability, do not exhibit it. Scott, what you basically said is, I'm smarter than everyone and you're all stupid. A lot of people, most people are stupid. Everybody knows that. I'm just saying, hey, I'm just saying- I'm just making an unspoken argument. There's an ability that I have and other people have not demonstrated to me that they also have this ability. I'm just making people say the same argument in the same thread and people will disagree with you and agree with me even though we said the exact same thing. So how would you word that differently that is not- but also say the same thing? I would word it mostly the way I was writing it before. Talk a lot more about the ideas of valid and valid criticism and what they mean and what people get out of a movie without directly impinging upon the perceived intelligence of the people. But what is that insanity of anyone's intelligence? It was that- you're the one implying that if someone does indeed lack that ability that they are unintelligent. You are making the logical leap there. You are also- Scott, however, I'm pointing out that if you are arguing with other people or discussing something in a buzz-altern fashion for the benefit of other people, you have to take into account the way they will likely interpret your words. They cannot interpret words properly. Maybe that is why they are upset because they have discovered the truth that they are less but at the same time that is why- If they were intelligent as they claim because you shouldn't be insulted by someone calling you dumb if you are dumb because then it's true you can't be insulted by the truth. You should only be insulted if you're actually not dumb and someone called you dumb. Then there's a reason to be insulted. So if you aren't dumb you should be able to interpret those words properly. Wouldn't you say so? And if you interpret those words properly you wouldn't be insulted by them. I have no comment because I have hitting that shield or that barrier that you in every- You're like a Klingon ship coming into an argument and Captain's like what the fuck is that? Shields all the way up. They see me and they're like oh crazy. Also I never actually said the people lack the ability to do that. You don't have to. I say that the people have not demonstrated their possession of this ability right? And if they get upset by that and make the logical leap to do that they don't have the ability and therefore they make that logical leap. They are then not aren't they? Admitting they don't have the ability. Perhaps however simply by- Are they not breaking? And the thing is they also never make a movement they also never argue that I do not have the ability. No one ever tries to do that. They never try to do that nor do they try to prove that they do have the ability or they don't even discuss that at all. Luckily they just humbly admit it's like they silently admit that I'm right and just say you're insulting me. You have to come in no you have to come in with the self-deprecation first. You do something like I have an ability you don't have? No you need to come in earlier with the I like Initial D Initial D is a terrible show. Yeah I come out with that all the time. That is the evidence that I have the ability is that? Remember you have to frame the debate in terms of your own self-deprecation in order to make other people lower their shields or what is your news today Thursday into the lounge? So finally Finally Yeah we got some big movement here because you know pretty much one of the number one things troubling especially nerd communities not the whole internet community Other than arguments on the internet? Exactly is the accessibility of video programming particularly television programming. Wait a minute what are you doing because I have my back mine is related but not that news. Okay Anyway go on So you know and this is the whole HBO thing with the Game of Thrones let's type the news together Okay because we just talked about something else So fine and you know there's the Hulu and Netflix are dimmed because the cable company's got a lock in You can watch stuff on your Xbox or your PC but only if you have pay for cable and login with your cable login like you can watch ESPN on your Xbox if you pay for ESPN and what the fuck do I need it on my Xbox But what's interesting is I'm just letting me use my Xbox as a cable box But as we know for that case I would be perfectly willing to pay for just ESPN without cable And it's like oh yeah you can pay for just baseball but on your phone which I did one or two years in a row when I got first got the iPhone 3G You can't get Mets games you can use the GPS you found out that you're in New York so we're going to block all New York games and it's like Seattle Mariners and Milwaukee Brewers I only care about the fucking Mets but using the GPS to figure out that I'm in New York and if I don't let you activate the GPS you won't let me watch anything Meanwhile if I don't pay and I'm through a pirate stream I can see everything just fine Yeah so anyway this you know this whole thing you know everyone knows this topic right so the Department of Justice finally is doing something Justice she's got a blindfold over eyes she's really good a magical drop She knows how to think how much things weigh we always get to eat them anyway so what they're doing is they're going after you know Comcast Time Warner et cetera with everybody saying hey we're going to try to see if you're doing any antitrust business trying to give competition from Hulu Netflix et cetera on purpose to surveys yes right so cable is a monopoly right and it's sort of you know it's one of the right it's a local monopoly right in a local right it's a monopoly and the rule the law in the US is not that you are not allowed to have monopoly YKK has a monopoly on zippers they are allowed to have monopoly on zippers right Microsoft Windows is allowed to have monopoly operating systems right because if you have a monopoly on zippers like YKK does right if I tried to compete in the zipper department I'm going to take them on they're not allowed to use the advantages they have of being the existing monopoly like saying if you ever buy another zipper from another company we're going to not let you buy any YKK zippers again right so if there's like you know Uniqlo wants to buy zippers from me right YKK could be like well we're not going to sell you any of our zippers like when Intel was like Dell you got to buy Intel chip you're not allowed to oh my god that was right around the arrow when I really hated Intel and Microsoft it's like Windows you can't be like well we're going to make sure we're going to use our Windows monopoly to get Internet Explorer everywhere not allowed to so basically what they're saying is hey these people with the cable monopoly are using their cable monopoly to prevent competition no Netflix, Hulu, etc no so the Department of Justice is investigating the bandwidth limiting right it's like oh well if you have like an AT&T mobile phone the using ABC's video app doesn't contribute to the bandwidth cap but using Netflix does giving your existing monopoly on you know an advantage of you know no right and this is what Comcast when they merged the NBC specifically agreed not to do yes guys so that's why they're using you know because that's one that they have on paper somewhere that they can really nail them on if they discover that it has in fact been done and he really was guaranteeing it has so let's see how big the balls of the Department of Justice are and maybe the FCC can bring back the a la carte cable etc etc the thing is a la carte cable is 15 years too late I'm just saying but maybe get what they should have I don't know why the cool cable companies don't do this stuffy ones don't do it right away name a cool cable company right so you know name one a cool cable cable company no no I'm talking about channels okay name a cool cable channel that isn't HBO or Showtime and Comedy Central is pretty cool right even though it's owned by Viacom which is not cool yep but Comedy Central itself is cool but actually though my trouble with Comedy Central is that most of the programming for the last I don't know are South Park and The Daily Show and The Daily Show Web App has possibly the second most annoying advertising scheme in the world that's also broken but I'm saying is like Comedy Central is already cool enough to let you watch South Park Daily Show just on the web I have a feeling that Daily Show and South Park are only there like that because those two particular shows those shows the people who make them have a lot of independent power and cash trade park and Comedy Central say look we will fuck you if you fuck with us but anyway I don't know why for example Comedy Central or some other cable channel that actually has viewers as opposed to the ones that don't have viewers my time right says go to ComedyCentral.com there's a video player right there and you can watch live streaming Comedy Central 24-7 it's the exact same thing that's on our channel on TV you don't need cable anymore right independently the one that's better for the advertisers the problem is is this exact monopolistic antitrust practice you have the companies that own the cable right cable vision also owns cable channels like MSG they don't want to just let you watch ranger games on the computer because then you won't also pay them and get the advertising from that which they already get on MSG but in addition every month to pay for the cable vision if they they basically just doing what we want them to do which is go to MSG.com watch ranger games is basically just throwing away all the money that they get from people subscribing well this is a problem that Sony has had for a long time that when you've got multiple you're big enough company to worry about multiple arms any company in the modern world who was into both distribution of content and creation of content has these weird sort of conflict of interest within themselves where if one wing in the company as well it'll basically destroy the other wing of the company if I were the heads of these companies I would be rapidly trying to spin off all the legacy stuff I would spin off the networks on their own and get the content creation separate and I would stay on the content creation boat right see that's real yeah but you would think that if one company of the six went for it and said we're going to sacrifice our old shitty distribution business just let it peter out right and we're just going to put all our content online in the modern way that that won right even though would have a temporary setback in revenues right of people bailing and just watching on line whatever right actually set with that's how much money they would gain money from people just paying them for their shows directly which is what people want to do you know the good shows right and three all of the other companies now would be at a competitive disadvantage and that one awesome company would be getting newer better content so Scott I think it's that these are large companies right in any large company there's a lot of momentum and there are people who carve out tiny little empires so the guy in the company who has a lot of power but his his boat is completely tied to the old legacy shit it has to come from the guys at the top who have the most power and the least vision in these cases I mean look I work for a small company and basically the heads of the company every day are like what can we do this crazy what should we do let's fuck everything over and start let's just go crazy they want they're pushing faster than I would push basically there's so much momentum right but it makes you think these six or seven media companies are competing with each other theoretically no they're also they're collaborating right the only way is clearly collusion which is also illegal because if there wasn't collusion some of them would pick orange right and cut out and be like alright we're going to bail you know I don't think Biacom owns Time Warner owns cable NBC Comcast has regular I don't think Biacom I think Biacom just has content do they own a cable operator I'm not sure RCN I don't know I don't think so we have to do a separate show on this I know we can research that but one of them that only does content you know could we know Fox News Corp has cable and whatever if you didn't think about the corporate relationships HBO is probably the best position as a I think that thing that's owned by Time Warner but here's the thing HBO if it were its own thing still it would be able to basically be the one that does that and they would probably be great but the guy who runs HBO these on video people have asked him this stuff and he's just he's the oldest thinking putty-dutty well HBO's owned by Time Warner and Time Warner would get fucked if HBO destroyed the old model I think HBO as a network could singlehandedly destroy the old model well that was the article I was thinking about talking about that I decided not to bother with because there's plenty of news that Game of Thrones is possibly the most pirated television show in history yeah that's old news we only talked about potentially there's an article that really goes into who's pirating it and why people in countries who can't get it mostly people who don't want to pay for HBO there's no legal way to get it without paying for cable but that's so much money it's not worth it well you can buy you can't get the DVDs as soon as it comes out the day of the show comes out and within years you know six or seven years ago we'd be a convention saying that live is dead because other than sports live was and yeah I mean I'm the person who doesn't care if I want to watch Game of Thrones I haven't watched it at all yet I downloaded the first season I'll watch it some time eventually I'll check it out because how can I not it's so hyped how can I not at least check it out right but I'm in no rush but these people it's like they're obsessed they gotta see it as soon as it comes out well because it's remember when I was reading The Prince of Nothing and the crew all the people who weren't reading it basically were shunned from at least half of our conversations I just whatever and before I read it before I read it I remember everyone else who had read it in the first wave we'd be talking about and he stepped into the circle inscribed by his sword but meanwhile when I eventually got around to reading it it was plenty of discussing that was only because there was a second simultaneous wave there is a certain social currency but you know in the old days remember there weren't there weren't that many shows like Big Bad Deco be on TV and literally everyone saw it and the next day in the office in the school everyone had seen the same thing and had that to talk about now it's fractured but it's starting to come back and look at nerves ponies happens the next day every day we watch ponies talk about ponies that's true but you know while I can see that I'm not saying it's that important to you or me I'm saying that there is serious social currency something early in the cycles that you can then discuss it and be part of the internet mashup free problem let me insult people again indirectly about what if you're doing the spoiler thing nothing with spoilers it's that you look at someone like me I'm totally hipster in nerdy I'm reading no one else is reading and watching no one else is watching and then when I come over I know you don't watch every episode of whatever I don't need to talk about the thing that you've also seen I'll just talk about the thing that I've seen right but if you if you've seen something I haven't seen I don't mind if you talk about the thing that's not even close to the argument I'm making I'm saying it's more interesting if you talk about the thing I haven't seen so I don't need that everyone has seen the same thing so you say you say that but it's not if they're talking possibly if it's a thing and so all I'm saying is that with the majority of people and also included there is social currency to being in with whatever the thing is so if it's good and you want to consume it you get more out of it it's kind of like buying the laptop on day one as opposed to day hundred if the price doesn't drop if you buy it on day one you got a better deal than on day hundred because otherwise you got a hundred less days and pay the same amount of money you pay the same amount of time to get the media but if you get it when other people there's more immediate like payback on that in the form of social currency that's all I'm saying that's a bigger calculation though because you also got to wonder what other media could you have been consuming at that time if you said that's a bigger calculation because we have to talk about the entropy of the universe cause my brain consuming the thing and the electrons over here that's right it's like I could consume that right away and I get this bonus but that means I'm not doing this other thing today is today I'll wait till the winter to watch it which is coming that's a game of thrones show look at how this works I can get the joke I haven't even watched one minute of the show why is winter a big deal I'm curious cause there's a guy who says winter is coming and that means it's gonna be cold and it's medieval time so it sucks when it's cold and that means it's gonna everyone's gotta stay inside and be trapped and have sex that's pretty much it except winter lasts like 20 years and it's a medieval world I thought it was only medieval world it's medieval world because of the way the planets work there's like 5 years of summer and then some number of years of winter oh see I thought see I was not aware that it was that winter is coming and it has to go a word I thought it was only a word it's Prince of Nothing but are they're wizards? yes but they're far away oh but they aren't there I thought it was just sort of slightly fantasy like well it's sort of like King Arthur right it's a little fantasy and then everything the game of show focuses on is the slightly fantasy big fantasy like right on the edge like epic level D&D fantasy it's out there it's out there but it's not where you know what it's coming Scott when winter comes season 4 season 5 season 1000 wizards you're going to fly it on dragons cast and spells I have no faith that the show is going to go anywhere because I know where the books have gone magic rain and the books aren't going anywhere either anyway it's going to be wheel of time let's move on alright time for hats we have to do new things of the day and we met in a moment yep alright I like your PUN PUN juice I can put a shirt for you because it's orange juice that's why I bought it because it's $10 and it's orange alright so anyway things of the day so we were watching this video of a bunch of models falling over and it was it was funny but it was also kind of sad so to get the taste out of our models we watched a video with a bunch of guys opening beer bottles in a manly fashion and it was actually a surprisingly enjoyable video they do a lot of repeats but it's good but there were no actual repeats everyone was crook slightly so but it was like they were like three machetes what are you talking about they were differently shaped machetes they weren't the same machetes I think I saw the same machetes plus there was like monkey wrench other kind of wrench uh-huh so here's a little I like how some of them don't work here's a similar short and funny video this guy is in Russia alright and he pulls up next to some russian police and he notices that the policeman in the car is not wearing a seat belt it's talking on a cell phone so he's like hey hey he yells at the police officer to roll down the window and he tells them hey put your seat belt on and turn the phone off right regulation number whatever whatever it's pretty funny but look on the cop's face cause he can't be saying anything and it says in Russia police obeys you the policeman's just like I can't even yell at this guy ugh ugh ugh you can get away with this in New York like hey I would be actually kind of afraid to do that I know right I really even if there was like a really nice cop if I saw him doing something like you know like he had no seat belt and he looked really nice and friendly and was smiling and like maybe I could get away with like hey man dude haha seat belt the thing is I take too hard the advice we got from that thing is if you can avoid it don't engage yourself with police officers or really low life people yeah we did the whole show crazy crazy bums when that crazy guy tried to punch me while I was riding my bike and beaking I was like far years ago crazy bums well you know it's more simple never get involved with the police or anyone who has nothing to lose or the perception of nothing to lose alright met a moment met a moment the book club book is one two eight four two T eighty four what do you want to say it's uh I'm about done with it I gotta read like the last hundred pages maybe maybe it's uh it's pretty good good book you should read it it wouldn't be the book club book if it was not good it wouldn't be hundreds of people reading on the subway every guy if it wasn't good right the thing is I'm a little I like it a lot and it's long enough to wear that if it was just a they're you know they're still reading but how do you know you're watching people like finish it on the subway I think my page they're on the thing is it's a book where I start reading I'm like okay where is this going oh crazy murder okay maybe it's about that little people little people ears what do you mean by little people what's up with the ear oh little people little people two moons fucking little people that's right because it's one of those things where I kind of expected little people and then sure enough somehow it's like what really yeah our other news Connecticut coming up real soon get to mostly online I got a tweak a little bit panelists are too bailed on me I'm going to fill in inspection panels Connecticut is going to be awesome if you want to work at Connecticut and do like volunteer you what not you can talk to me or the Connecticut volunteer department I will say this we will make your job easy because I think we don't really need people to work incredibly long basically all we need is like two people on maybe two or three people at all times on shift right and even at late night maybe even less people probably like one or two people at night when there's less traffic just so that there is someone in the hallways and somebody checks on 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I can't find a hat that's a good style and every style of hat I see either A isn't for me personally is my cute body doesn't match well for example my clothes don't match like I would totally do like 20s 30s awesome hat but that would mean I need to wear 20s 30s suit maybe with a vest every day and you know what it's long or no hat does a linen jacket no the linen goes with like the straw hat you know the Panama hat with the red white blue no no there's a long tradition of Italian businessmen wearing these sort of like linen suits while they're going around you know the kind of hat you throw up in the air to parade that hat doesn't for me to wear you know you can wear what so much not wearing so much why not it's not gonna look just do it just own it double down what's funny is when I was young I hated wasting time in the morning on things like brushing my hair like I remember that was the thing like I didn't want to bother with stuff like that I definitely still don't want to bother with stuff like that so I pretty much always wanted to wear a baseball cap just because that meant I didn't have to do anything I wore see we weren't allowed to wear a baseball cap in school no it was me but we could wear in the hallways so wait so I didn't bring one to school I didn't wear one because I usually in high school you could wear it just not in class right so in class I just take it off and put it on the table and I started freshman year of high school up through freshman year of college I just wore a mezz hat everyday they just always had the mezz hat on everywhere I went I pretty much wore baseball caps every time I was like going around outside unless until that was in 10th grade I got what I affectionately called the stupid hat Panama style but really crappy and smaller I pretty much wore that up until I lost it at RIT all the time yeah I wore that mezz hat up till freshman year at RIT and then somewhere I sort of just stopped I don't remember why of course RIT I'll take a picture to link to it for this episode but it's funny because right around my senior high school when I got to RIT I wore a brown duster everywhere because it was winter in Rochester but it's also basically a portable bed and portable pillow and a portable backpack because I could fit everything in the pockets so I would use I wore like pajamas under it and wear it to class and curl up in the library uses a blanket or a bed or whatever it's the same thing that always happens right is if you're a freshman in high school you're a sport in middle school style for a while and when you're a freshman in college you're a sport in high school style for a while and then you can ride it but the thing is in the world you're a sport college style for a while and then you could turn it through but I would it got to you know when RIT I had the duster and I wore it and it was cold and unlike the rest of my life I didn't have a car to just drive everywhere so I started wearing the duster all the time and what goes better with the duster than whether cowboyish had so I was actually you know for a couple of years in RIT a huge mustache I look very different from how I do now in terms of style I wore that cowboy hat like every God day and day like every picture of me at RIT I got a cowboy hat the thing is no one brown stick walking around yep but no one could call me text cause we knew a guy called text yeah he's the only text if anyone had called me text I think he would have killed me just to make sure so one day I'm sitting in the RIT cafeteria I mean you didn't have a 10 gallon cowboy hat it was more of like an Australian outback kind of outback kind of but I'm on the bush wrangling horses yeah but darker brown and then you know like crocodile doesn't mean it looked a lot like what's his name's hat in the Final Fantasy 8 no wasn't it Star Ocean no Final Fantasy 8 whatever the Cypher guy I didn't actually play yeah it's sort of like a grit hat yeah the grit doesn't wear a hat in Advanced Wars 2 that's true yeah anyway actually really you were very I was also kind of unshaven so I had that kind of grit you didn't have the pointy G-Gun beard though no I had the epic you know grit and G-Gun same actor I'm I gotta say playing Advanced Wars 2 again great this I should go watch Doopons I haven't seen I haven't caught up on the end either alright so I wore this hat like all the time like that was just I was known as wearing that hat and one day we're eating lunch or dinner or something out of the cafeteria and out of nowhere someone from behind like on this balcony like above where we're eating grabs the hat off my head runs away and I look I'm done with that like I can't believe this yeah you think it's just like a practical joke like lol's got your hat dude like I can't believe this happened and I assume it's someone I know and then our friend Greg looks at me it's like I think that guy just fucking stole your hat and I look up and the guy just keeps running like he's almost out of the cafeteria and I'm like fuck so I get up and my grooves are following like this chain of people and I get outside and I and I the guy would have gotten away but he stopped he's just walking I don't want to be behind I grab his shoulder and spin it around like give him a hat back and he was deaf and he looks at me like I'm stupid he's like what and I point to the hat I'm like my hat and he doesn't want to give it back to me and I'm debating threatening him when other people start to show up and suddenly got this posse behind they're like give me the fucking hat back he kind of stands there but then he backs down and I walk back into the cafeteria like a hero and I resume eating what I assume was he was not like a clapping or just like fucking back in but I was a hero to me because I got my hat back you're a hero to you only because I still got that hat but the problem is later the head shrunk it doesn't fit in my head anymore I think your head grew I don't think my head has already been big your played intensive self work hot air I just couldn't believe someone stole my hat off my head what would they want would they dare to do it I don't know it wasn't even someone I knew it was a random death kid I never saw him again on campus yeah what else are we going to say about hats I like you watch old movies is he ever wearing a hat and you think yeah I wish he didn't go back to the days they were wearing a hat and was silent but at the same time I can't even get there myself so I can't even leave anyone else for not getting them you know those derby style canes when people have a walking cane it's like the thing you hold on to yeah like the Johnny Walker label and there's like a little hook on the front of it yep you know what that's for yes you hang it over your arm and then you hang the hat on the hook that way your arm is straight that's right I see more and more people like whenever I'm around the theater district or whenever I go to a show or something there's a lot of people sporting that kind of look again in New York yeah at a formal event you can totally do it but it's like to wear that every day is A expensive B warm yeah well I'm already expensive I'm already having the problem if I wear like a jacket like every day like I dress up nice and as a result I own like 14 jackets and I get dry cleaning done constantly and it's actually really expensive and I've worn out two jackets yeah it's not just expensive to buy them right it's like a one-time cost a few thousand dollars yeah most people you own a jacket you own like two jackets you gotta dry clean all that shape constantly instead of regular laundry well that's something I've learned it would cost just as much to wear the super one day as it costs like a whole basket of regular t-shirts but I was younger I never paid much attention to the formal attire other people wore but now because I wear jackets I kind of think about it a lot more and what's funny is like when I go to an event like a convention like not a nerd convention but a more businessy convention you can pretty much tell someone's profession and income level based solely on literally the cup of their jacket yeah and I gotta say when you see the guy wearing what is clearly the same jacket or it was prom complete with the hole for the button near at a professional convention that guy is still in college or fresh out of college he's like the low level tech guy it was forced to go there by his boss that's never steered me wrong lately I really haven't been wearing hats anymore yeah it's like I want to wear a hat but I just can't find that what I don't get though is that I see a lot of people in the city who are business men but they're like a shlubby normal middle aged they're like 45 and they have like a normal job so they have to like they have to dress up as opposed to dressing up because they want to but they have to dress up in this boring like white dress shirt with a particular job why don't they go more solid if I had to dress up but I didn't quit the job which I probably wouldn't why does it always need like the crappy white dress shirt with the same color it's like I wouldn't take the job in the first place but if I had to have that job or they forced me to dress up and that's the job I had to me a white dress shirt would literally exist solely you're paying the dry cleaning cost the same no matter how fancy the clothes are right the jacket's 250 it doesn't matter if it's a thousand dollar jacket or a one dollar goodwill jacket dry cleaning is the same I would get it doesn't need to be expensive it'd just be stylish as opposed to you know sluggy yeah but those people I would say a third of them on the subway are always wearing a really non-matching random baseball cap yep I don't know why what bothers me more than wearing the baseball cap is the people who get the baseball cap but the plastic in the back as opposed to the fitted hat it's like oh are you kidding me every baseball cap I ever owned had the plastic in the back oh it's awful oh it's the worst and it was even worse than that is when the entire back half of the hat is sort of that mesh that's only for trekkers trekkers and fishermen and the only people out there wait a minute you're the one that is complaining about other people's fashion oh look at the hat he's wearing oh I can't wear that hat yeah you're going to complain about people wearing socks and sandals care about hats care about hats hats are important you want your hat back because hats protect the head which is the important part of the body helmets protect the head helmets are hats you want to talk about helmets no I think helmets is a separate show okay because I have a bunch of helmets you got to squeeze out another episode you got to save the helmet anecdote I kind of want to get a formal hat but with long hair I have to tie it back in a very particular way to wear a nice hat and because I have an atypically large head in terms of like measurements off the shelf hats don't fit me like I have to really have to spend a lot of money that is annoying right it's like hats are one of those things with the more expensive ones it's going to disappear same thing with canes because I was thinking about getting a nice cane to only take when I go to like the theater like nice jacket you know pants cane and hat you should bring a little mustache the wooden the mustache film the cheap canes look like shit the nice looking canes if they were I expected like if I'm crazy and I spend like 200 bucks I'll get the best looking cane now talk $2,000 for a good looking cane here's what you do right so the best looking cane guys if you want to make me a cane I'll be a friend forever right the best looking cane in my opinion is the plain black smooth you know thing the tapers to point at the bottom that's sort of like the sideways handle that you can hang the hat on so what do you want that's all you got to do it's so simple it doesn't need to be one of those ones those all sorts of engravings on the metal I don't want that I want very simple I want black with silver tips and or and just got to be the right shape or I want a really like sort of art deco styling one I saw one online it was a one off custom cane someone made for a project it was beautiful but anyway they wanted like $9,000 we could make that cane right really cheap just get a piece of wood you know put it in the spinning thingy make it the right shape I need a lathe I need a lathe no that's not how you make it anyway but it doesn't it just has to look right you steal your lacquer black you get the metal things and attach it to both ends no there's more to it than that if you just do that one it's not going to be a super even coat it's not going to look nicely black you get your wood and stain it you don't need it or it'll look like shit it's also going to be matte not shiny that's what I'm saying you don't use spray paint for that it'll look awful you don't use spray paint but you would spray the paint no not paint you don't use paint or something like that you clearly never worked with a wood before anyway I could make it really easily and it would not cost you even close to $10 $10 it wouldn't it wouldn't have that certain level of polish it's kind of like how you see the guy I do and you can tell like how expensive the suit is and or how nice it is just by the cut like you see a cheap suit and you're like wow those lapels are really I mean I mean if I had the materials and enough extra materials to practice a few times I could I could make canes that look great I don't think you could make them cheaper than similarly maybe I could definitely make less than that no the ones that are on that level of quality you're talking about are like 40 bucks but they kind of look like shit and they break you propose to use cheap wood if it breaks that's not a problem just don't break it it's just going to look good right it's like the $4 umbrella it's just got to if it works it gets you home the cane will get you to the theater at home it's all good I kind of want to get a top hat alright so get one to wear with tails at things what thing are you going to wear that to the opera yeah you'd stand out would be weird I saw the last time I went to a show I saw one for one I saw one person one dude yeah yeah that's the weird dude everyone points at you think I'm not a weird dude you think I'm not going to be eccentric silver-haired old crazy guy and why don't you go full out with like purple jacket and sparkles that's a different kind rainbow tie and yellow orange pants rainbow bash tie yeah sure yeah you know rot rotty style or who's the hockey guy Don Cherry just like Don Cherry I think we're done here I think we're done here yeah alright you know Don Cherry I know the name search for Don Cherry search for Don Cherry right now he's the guy in hockey night in Canada Cherry like a cherry Cherry like what you eat you know Don yeah Don Cherry there he is wow click on some of those oh the fourth one yeah wow go back that's I need to suit like that go back I really need to suit like that go back to that one whoa he's combining a Hawaiian shirt with a suit Don Cherry I can get behind this alright I'm turning off the stream there's only seven people in there hey it's more than zero they're tweeting in the last minute I wonder how the audio was we'll find out hey I got it I guess that's the camera alright