 We moved here in 97 and for the first 10 years we worked for the guy that owned the place and then like the last 10 years we've rented the place. So it worked out really well because I had 10 years to figure out what kind of worked and what didn't work before I took over the manage and the land. We have a lot of variation in our land right here because we're so close to the Missouri River it's only about three miles. We kind of got flats with pretty pretty good soil but once we get into the river breaks the soil changes. I don't know them river breaks are so steep wet year dry year it's kind of all the same. This flat land up on top will run twice as many cows as them steep river hills just a half mile away. So we figured out kind of how to use each different type of land and some of that that poor land and it was you know long ways between water so we moved it into dormant season grazing when cows didn't take as much water in the cooler part of the years. We got somewhere in the neighborhood a total of 4,000 acres here and what we concentrate our management during this June-July period August but we were actually mob graze about 400 acres every year. That sounds like that's only 10% of the ranch but by mob grazing during this this time period we're actually getting a benefit to the whole ranch by keeping the cows off with so many acres during the growing season and then we also mob graze different 400 acres we go back and forth every other year so our plants get to rest one year and shoot a seed head and then we then we take them off clear the ground the next year so we're kind on it every other year. We're trying to double our production over a season on grazing but we didn't double our cow herd we doubled our days grazing so so you know instead of going from 200 cows 400 cows we went 200 cows grazing 10 months a year instead of six months a year. When they're out grazing in the wintertime and you're not burning any fuel nothing's breaking down it's definitely a big saving. What the experts will tell you like on mob grazing you either want to eat it or trample it to the ground if you trample it to the ground your microorganisms are recycling it whereas if you leave it standing it oxidizes and you're actually letting carbon back in the air instead of sequestering the carbon into the soil so I mean that's part of the theory on the mob grazing you either eat it or trample it and then your nutrient cycle is efficiently working. We're aiming to protect our native species and like we didn't even know we had maximum in some flowers till we started resting pastures voila there it was you know but when we first moved here and we had pastures and there cows in every pasture we didn't even know some of these plants was on the place. I guess my goal was to produce more and improve natural resources at same time and I mean you can do either one of them easily by over grazing and producing more or under grazing and improving but with mob grazing I could get more production and improve my natural resources at the same time. I'm not doing this for my grandkids I'm doing it for me because it's rent and land you know I have to make money in a short time period when you when you implement a change on rent and land but by after it has to be profitable for me in a short time period where when you deal with rent and land but but I guess I've been lucky and my landlord sees that I'm taking care of his land. I think that question was over my pig ridd.