 It's time now to go to the press and see what the headlines are this morning. And we are being joined by architect Ezekiel Nyayitoka, public affairs analyst who is talking with us or who is joining us from Acquirebaum State. Good morning and welcome to the program, sir. Very good morning to you and there of course the plus TV family and Nigerians. Okay, now we'll take our first paper. We're beginning from the punch newspaper. TVN orders banks to sell excess dollars in 24 hours. Banks, okay, the rider is banks may sell five billion dollars, says official, and Cadoso faces Senate Tuesday over Naira fall. So let's hear what you think. You see the issue of the dollar and the Naira and the banks and the government is an issue that Nigerians should pay more than a passing interest because running of government, the first person on the top of the ladder is what you call the office of the citizen. That's the very, very first person. I hope you can hear me. Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yes, yes, okay. The very, very first person is the office of the citizen before you now have government where the presidency or the executive sits on top and you have the legislature and the judiciary. So the very first person responsible for the welfare and well-being of the Federal Republic of Nigeria is the office of the citizen. That is from that office that you choose government. That's what makes election so important, such that the government you choose is on account of what the citizens have decided and where you think that the processes are not okay. You sit up and you speak up. Now that said, what is happening with the Naira and the central bank and the government is what the citizens should come in on two ways. One, to say, nope, it's unacceptable. I don't accept it. And two, to also offer constructive, not only criticisms, but also solutions for where we are today. Why is the dollar, the dollar hitting Nigeria, left, right and the Naira left, right and center? Because number one, we are not having inflow. So the question is, why are we not having inflow? Number two, our demands are too high. And the question is, why are demands too high? Number three, they are the fifth columnist, the speculators. And here, government officials, politicians and bankers are the number one culprit. When we sit down, if the central bank has come out, it has one, two, three instruments at its disposal. Number one, what will we not make foreign exchange available to Nigeria? Even if you can afford it, no, we don't want it. What can we say about that? Number two, we have a lot of domiciliary accounts with the dollars of Nigerians there. It is their money. But what sort of sweetness, what sort of incentives, what sort of measures can we put in place such that that Nigerian will willingly want to bring out. Don't tell me, look, it's a mindset thing. Don't say it's not possible, don't start with it's not possible. It is possible. All we need is a man. If I need a foreign insurance, walk with them. I was listening to the minister of aviation yesterday talking about getting a kind of insurance such that if you miss your flight, they'll be able to get you another ticket on the spot and we get the insurance to write off that and take it out later. There are creative thinking. How can we make Nigerians to bring out their dollars back into the system so that there is a comfort that you will not lose that your dollar value at the end of the day? Can we get an international insurance since we've learned not to trust ourselves again? And then, of course, the central bank has the capacity to know the banking dollar stock of every bank and they should interrogate, which is the first step they have taken. I believe that's a very good step in the right direction and that Nigerians should applaud that, but then let us look for how we can create a governance structure that the citizens can have some level of faith and confidence in because we keep two contracts. Okay. On the top left corner of the punch newspaper, the front page of the punch newspaper, we have Tinobu Direct's AGF, Lopoburi, to end 1.3 billion dollar oil block dispute. There's a lot of speculations here and there. When the president said he was going to a private visit to France, a lot of things came in here and there. And one of the speculations is that there's going to be a sweetener of a deal where Oando might be a beneficiary of, so when the president says, oh, settle this, we want to see some level of transparency and accountability. And let me say this, that Oando ownership has a relationship with the president does not mean that there are less Nigerians than any other Nigerian, but the government, because of perception being stronger than reality, has an, you know, that overriding compulsion, not compulsion, it's incumbent upon them, it's mandatory, it is obligatory. That's what I wanted to get. It's obligatory on them to ensure that even if Oando is a beneficiary, an objective Nigerian will say they deserve it because the level of transparency, they say, well, you lose an election and you congratulate the winner yourself. I remember there was a balloting, I did somewhere for houses and things like that, and those who lost went and congratulated those who won because the level of transparency was such that even the worst of skeptics could not doubt it. So I think that this government, they should understand the concept of emotional intelligence and then know exactly how to do what they want to do. That is what I will say about that because there's been a lot of talk, a lot of controversy, a lot of this, but I want to say that if you are a relation of Mr. President, you are no less Nigerian and you are no less entitled so long as Mr. President operates on principles of fairness, of equity, of transparency, of accountability, of openness, which is what transparency in the first place is all about. Once that is done, what's fair is fair and whether it's in business, whether it's related to him or not related to him, whoever wins fair and square should be allowed to enjoy the spoils if I may use that language. Yeah, I don't know how much spoils we are going to enjoy when we have an economy whose currency is over $1,500 to the dollar. I don't know what you think about that. The dollar has dropped to an all-time low, more than $1,500. I'll tell you, my brother, let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. And I say this with every sense of responsibility. If the presidency wants to get us doing well, I know as a private citizen, I run an office. I've never worked for anybody all my life. So I'm a businessman. I understand the concept of the fundamentals and the dynamics and the essence and the foundations, the primaries. And these are the fundamentals you apply when you want to get results. I'll say this, you know, not long ago, I made up my mind to support this government. I am not in APC. We seem to have lost the audio of architect Ezekiel Nyaitok. We're hoping that he will reconnect with us and continue the analysis. We're looking at newspaper headlines and we're just talking about the fact that the Naira is above $1,500 Naira to the dollar as we speak. And this continues. I don't know how much business we can do in this country and how much more we can take what is happening. The economy is so bad, the Senate has decided to invite the central bank governor, Cadoso, to face them on Tuesday next week. We are looking forward to what that meeting will bring, the revelations hopefully that we will find out about in that meeting or after that meeting what is really happening. Why is the Naira having this kind of free fall? Why is the economy so biting that the people are suffering and all that? We hear that money has been saved from fuel subsidy removal and so many other loopholes that have been blocked. And we hear humongous amounts being peddled here and there. But we do not know what really is happening. Why the common man is not enjoying what he should enjoy. We are glad to be reconnected with architect Ezekiel Nyaituk. Sorry that we lost your audio at some point. Please continue. We're talking about the Naira that has fallen so low. Yeah. You see what I'm saying is this. When you, they are setting fundamentals and basis for an economy to thrive. They are not rocket science. One of such fundamentals is peace and stability. Like I said before, I lost connection. I am a Nigerian, so I have decided to support this government in every way practically possible. I will criticize where there is need. I will look for solutions and provide. And I was on a station yesterday and one of the national stations. And the question came up that has to do with patriotism and nationalism. And I said, look, I am not in APC. But I will do everything possible to make sure that the presidency works and the government. I'm not in PDP. And my state government is PDP. I will support my government to the highest level because the betterment of my state or my country is in my larger interest. Why am I saying that? It is that this fall of the Naira is not in the interest of Nigeria. And that whatsoever is possible for this government to do, they have to do it. And there are things that I can suggest that they should do. Number one, I hope you are still hearing me. Yeah, yeah, we can hear you. Okay, great, great. Number one is the speculators which I have said before. One, the banks. Within the banks, what is the stock of the dollars within the bank? What is the ownership structure of the dollars within the bank? There are two sets of owners. One is the average Nigerian that has worked hard and built his or her savings within the system no matter how much it is. And the other is the proceeds of crime which a lot of times have to do with the contracts within banks and governments that the bankers know. Let EFCC interrogate with the central bank and then for the criminals that you cannot explain let that money be brought out. And then you come if you cannot explain then there's got to be something to be done. But for the sincere owners that we can tell how the money, let me just quickly say this. I'm in a committee right now looking to housing and yesterday the chairman of that committee said something. He said in this committee we are going to be extremely transparent, accountable every single dime, every cover that is spent. Secretary from the ministry, you must give explanation for any payment. We went for a meeting and a private account was used to send some money. There was a very good explanation. It made a whole lot of sense. The chairman said as from today we should use the ministry account, number one, number two, if there is anything that has to be done there must be a letter that explains and number three, all payments must be very clearly stated and at the end of the day we will be able to say this committee spent five million and account for it. A lot of times in other places minister of housing is different. They are very organized and very, very corruption sensitive. Especially with the new minister. So they are very transparent. But in other agencies you realize that the budget for that event is 200 million. Whereas the expenditure in real terms is about less than 50 million. What happened to the other more than 150 million? So we want to start by bringing these principles of accountability of transparency. If the banks can come and give us a clear ownership structure of all our dollars, that is they are in custody of a lot of money will start to come out. And if central bank, between central bank and the federal minister of finance if they are honest and sincere I can tell you that in less than one month the dollar can find itself going below a thousand Naira to a dollar. I can tell you that for free. Then will the governor of central bank and the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria will he have the political will to engage the nothing elites? I want to, maybe I shouldn't say profile because though you may think of it better I mean might be inexperienced for me to profile will they look at the people that speculate with dollars with the CBDs and really come to sit down with them and say can we have an honest conversation and see how we can rescue this country? I believe that if they have that honest conversation the hooking of the dollars left, right and center I have looked around it and maybe I have not gone around enough but I have gone around the world I don't see where the dollar is sold anyhow or the pound is sold anywhere it's like you just go and pick and I haven't seen it. Why is it so in Nigeria? There are institutions bureau to change the area there there are places you go to have traveled wide enough and once I want to exchange money in places you go to when you go there they will take your passport they will tell you what you need and then they will be able to do the transaction everything is recorded by the time I get into America or Europe or any of these places they can tell they can relatively track the amount of money I've spent and how I spent it and the thing but in Nigeria I can walk down the street and buy $25,000 of the radar completely off record no documentation, nothing and is this what we want? Why is it still so? Is it a government policy that it's okay? Is the government turning a blind eye on it? The time has come when we must have an honest conversation with ourselves in this country Okay, this one is this suite Amid insecurity NEF O'Haneze CSOs angry over Tianobu's private trip to Paris and one of the the writer is, he is on top of the situation say his presidency this is on daily trust newspaper O'Haneze, NEF CSOs angry over Tianobu's private trips private trip to Paris and the problems that we have in Nigeria the president decided to go on a private visit to France and this is worrisome to a lot of people in Nigeria, what do you think about that? It's not on leave it's not on anything but it's on the private visit with state funds possibly You know this issue also came up on the national discourse that I was talking about yesterday again and you know I had made up my mind to work for O'Bong Tianobu but you see it should not be blindly and it should not be stupidly when I come on a national setup like this they expect me to talk as a nationalist they expect me to be very very objective and I said it yesterday and then it was concord that I have at the risk of sounding immodest one of the highest ratings in public discourse whenever I come up and that's because people expect a certain level of openness and objective disposition from me so by making up my mind to work as much as possible for the president it's not going to make me in any way to say that black is white and I'll never do that I think there's no emotional intelligence and I don't know who the advisers of Mr. President is for what is happening today for president to proceed on private visits now a man like Falano has said that there's no provision in the in the constitution for private visits of a president I can understand when he proceeds on leave he has his liberty to do certain things but when you go with the private with the jets of the Federal Republic of Nigeria go with the retinue of people that are paid and probably still getting a star coat I'm not sure of that and you call all that a private visit no it's not that is on one hand but what is more worrisome is the time the bible says all things are lawful but not all things are expedient I think that the president has allowed two people commented on his traveler broad one person was Obuang Artiku and the other person was Obuang Obi now you realize that while Obuang Artiku is saying look if the heat is too much get out of the kitchen Obuang Obi on the other hand is saying fellow Nigerians this is a time for us to come together because we are in a desperate situation to drop our political caps and help this nation and he went further to go and visit the family of one of the family of the Kipna victims this guy's retinue just went through the roof Nigerians started to say wow because they could see the emotional connection at a time that Mr. President was absent it's not good for him politically it's not good for a nation at a time like this we need our father to be on top of the situation assuring us reassuring us moving into theaters of war being a commander in chief and being the father of the nation so on the insecurity he's a commander in chief on those who are mourning he's the father of the nation that is what governance is all about people who tell him that it doesn't matter they don't like him telling me that no he's on top of the situation what I mean I mean do I sound do I look like somebody who has nothing between my ears don't tell me that you know so I understand there could be situations where desperate measures demands for him to rush out and rush back I can understand that that when you are out for two weeks at a time like this insecurity has never been this bad Naira has never been this battered who is talking to me just an address to the nation based on one two three things that I can even tell him the lines to put number one technically shut down this country gentlemen the time has come when we have to take desperate measures because of where we are we are in a worst situation we are in an emergency situation we are technically shutting down this country let's sit down here and face the situation ourselves and tell ourselves the simple truth and look into our eyes and decide what we want from us this is the time that Mr. President will say in the process I am relocating the seat of government from this Abuja to the south east the next two weeks I'm going to and I need to know why they have to sit at home every Monday for God knows how long I need to know what the problem is I don't want to be told again I want to see it and just that statement alone boom do you know that the first thing is that that south sit at home thing he sits down engages the people and then he's able to come up with practical solutions reassure them and then he makes a broadcast wanna thank God for what we've achieved so far in the south east the next two weeks I'm moving to the north east I need to know I may be there for up to a month because this issue of kidnapping this issue of foreign terrorists has to come to an end I am going to be there my brother within three months maximum there will be peace in Nigeria all ministers counsel all foreign trips counsel all engagements we cannot be bringing investors when the foundation is weak we cannot be assuring the people and then while at the central bank governor and the attorney general sits down and walk out this issue of our contrast with other people our obligations we need to be a country that believes in the rule of the judiciary I need to know please come up with something I need desperate whatever in the next three months we need to take very hard decisive decisions to lay a foundation for a Nigeria that works this is what I swore to the game to do and that is what I'm to do and that is what I'm going to do when we see that I can give my life for it to tell you that this country will start to move in the direction that we'll be proud of Nigeria is a country that has all it takes to be on top of the game okay well now we're talking in security and all that and then EFCC has come up in one forum that was held recently and said that a religious sect is laundering money for terrorists what do you have to say that's still on daily trust the same headline can be found in the Guardian newspaper where they said EFCC traces seven billion narrative religious bodies alleges faith leaders laundering funds for terrorists on one hand I'm sad on one hand I'm relatively optimistic and on one hand I'm almost confused why am I sad I'm sad that religious bodies that are expected to be the custodians of the do-rightness concept especially the Christian religion because I know that and when the Bible says that righteousness exalts a nation it means do-rightness exalts a nation it is not about the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus no that is why an Arab nation countries that have multiple gods talk of a place like India the prosper talk of a place like the United Arab Republic the prosper because these are statutes of general application do-rightness exalts a nation and the Christian religion that I know the Christian faith is a major principal custodian of do-rightness if that body that EFCC is referring to is a Christian body then I'm ashamed of such a body and if Christians are part of that system I'm ashamed of any of such people because that should not be the case but I have friends within the Muslim world who give me an idea of what the Muslim religion is all about and what it stands and I can say with every sense of responsibility that if there is any Muslim sect that is implicated or is complicit then they should be ashamed of themselves because they are a terrible representation of the Muslim religion I would say that makes me sad the second part of it that gets me confused is that the EFCC chairman is he afraid if he comes across this maybe they are still doing investigations so let me not preempt them but I expect them to do a watertight investigation and put some people in the dark and make a public show of them even in the Bible Jesus made a public show of them you know trying to yonk over them in it there's a time that wisdom demands that you call out these people you name and you shame so that others can dissociate themselves from such people so I'm confused about that and I'm hoping that EFCC will not just be telling us causing problem we don't want to hear that we want to see action but then I have a ray of hope that they can openly come out and say this because they should expect that there will be a backlash of people saying so what are you doing so I believe that this is step one and it gives me hope to know that there will be a step two because that time has come when we must do differently because doing the same thing the same way will always give us the same results outside of which an expectation is nothing but the definition of insanity if we want to get the different results EFCC from the talk talk talk of the past then they start to do what they've not been doing in the past and we will be there as their great cheerleaders clapping for them and my prayer my faith, my hope today is that what the chairman said yesterday is step one and that by tomorrow where tomorrow being figurative we'll be able to see step two but not the endless tomorrow that never comes like the youth are leaders of tomorrow okay now there is this still on security monax killing call for community policing input of ex-service chiefs this community policing has become an issue and we've been talking about it day in day out I don't know why the government is dragging its feet and then we find states and geopolitical regions in Nigeria forming security blocks within their geopolitical zones and I don't know what the much difference of these is from having a state police that will even be controlled by the constitution and everything because when you allow people to resort to self-help there's a possibility that some of the laws guiding a formation of something like that may not be ahead to because this is self-help whether we like it or not and every other one that has come up is self-help we keep talking about state policing and there are other schools of thought that say that state policing is not good just because there's this fear that the governors might use them to their own benefit I don't know let's still talk about this state policing what do you still think about state policing I was on a television program and I thought I was saying something really really good I got a call a blocking number that's the title I have it's like Ariana Kakao for one of the highest titles you can have like a decorated general Otweko you know we love you but please don't say that again I was shocked I thought I was doing good the guy said you have what to eat we don't have if you tell them that and they do it it will not come up food from our mouth what to do with security he said if there is peace there are things that will fall out what you call the inevitable com comitance let me tell you something the police is not as stupid as you are as we think sorry as we think they are they are not everything they are doing is very deliberate to a great extent very intentional and my apology to the very committed, passionate few because they are there so I want to carry this brush and paint everybody they are people there who are they are upright but the generality of the police are not taking care of by government they are taking care of themselves and they are instead of having like I want to get very graphic of eating like two or three pieces of meat they are packing 20 pieces of meat on the plate and commonsense tells you that there is no way you can finish 20 pieces of meat, why am I saying this insecurity police community policing number one why can't we have the police leave private citizens as has been requested once, twice, thrice by the president and everybody why is it not happening why because being guards to private citizens put a lot of money in the pockets of the augers that is why they will hardly agree to withdraw the police from the private citizens and companies so that we will have more of them guarding Nigerians private enterprise secondly, I give them an idea because each time I come I don't just want to be an analyst I want to be able to put an idea forward think of this my brother even if we end on this think of this that today the Nigerian police decides that they are going to commission private security at a certain level highly trained so they are going to set up a section where they are going to give the level of training that they can carry a certain level of light and you talk of the there is this national defense not talking of national defense and talking of private security like we see outside private investigators and train these people they will network this will network and send people to Israel and to different places and when they come out the Nigerian police as a section you know what number one they will make money by licensing these people they will make money number two these people will recruit people including you know retired generals you know the veterans they will recruit them so they will be employment created number three the pool of police that have been with them will come back to join the once guarding the citizens plus the new set of people so that security will be beefed up from all sides government makes money the police will come and guide us and then there will be new security people under the very special unit of the Nigerian police where they are very very strictly monitored and because they are such professionals they are able to prove to proof to Chevron proof to Total proof to Cadbury proof to you know to NDDC and all these NDDC governments you know that they have the competencies and as a result Nigeria will become better police when we are there at that top level these are the people that are going to even help to set up with their own local you know because they are guys within the local and they want to know that they have map the local so that they can have good intel and then we now have a synergy it is not impossible but at that point it is no longer as lucrative to the leadership number three I wanted to be the governor of Akwaibon State and probably because of time we may end up this I don't know I wanted to be the governor of Akwaibon State and Akwaibon is one of the most peaceful states but I wanted to even take it a notch higher by doing what Akwaibon has 200, 329 you know what taking to about 368 I mapped Akwaibon into 500 units concentric circles because though it is 368 they are setting places where either within the city where they need for more concentration or what you may call ungoverned spaces and what was I to do each of them the 500 units and points were to be covered by drones drones you have 1500 specialized drones so that each of the units has a two operational and a one backup and if there's anything another one comes in so that the whole state is covered we call it the state eye I set this up even to the national called the national eye Nigeria can be mapped into if I can do that as a governor the federal government can map Nigeria such that though we have you know 279 words if you have 10 per word 7000 double that about 15,000 units you see that San Bisa Forest when they know that there is a drone overhead and that if there's anything all we need is not police being told and they start to run while you are trying to deploy the army there the drone is there tracking the movements and how many drones can you shoot down and besides the operation of the drone you know these are things that are there technology it is not rocket science you don't need to reinvent it they are there they have drones that can cover a kilometer they have drones that can cover more than a kilometer they have drones that can operate at different levels when they know that you are going to track them those trackers are sending intel to the police on ground so they know exactly where to go and not the one that by the time you go to the you know to the scene of the of the incident the thing had already happened and they have already gone they now send people army there or police there and they will be there for another two weeks when he doesn't to me doesn't quite add up anyway these are things that can be done with little money and I believe that the federal governments they can take some of these pieces map Nigeria into 15,000 you know concentric circles and then station your drones you employ a lot of young people these young people are technologically surveyed another employment for them they are in their rooms and you don't know where their rooms because they are on the cover agent you understand me there's a way you train them so that nobody knows who they are or where they are or how they are if they say mapping you do and at the end of the day you can actually stay in one state and cross you know cross monitor you know another so that nobody really tells it is from this place that they are doing that when this criminals know that the criminals are the most fearful people you may not understand unless you are young but old enough to be there in the days of Anini Anini terrorized Nigeria and he looked like Rambo like you know invincible the day he was caught I was so ashamed of him when I saw him on television please don't kill me please don't I say is this Anini or is this another person when they confirm this you mean I expected a guy like that put the bullet there blow it up I don't care you do the crime you do the time and here it was please don't kill me these guys are fearful people and all you need to do is to show them that you are coming for them and that you will be in peace in less than six months I remember the day he was caught I remember someone was reading the news at nine and they brought a paper to the person the newscaster it wasn't part of the lineup and it was written there Anini incorporated and liquidated something like that so I remember quite vividly what is what was said yes so well I mean you don't belong to Jet no no no I am also belonging to the the BBC the born before computer that's what I belong to okay so now there are so many interesting topics headlines I would have wanted us to take but we have like just five minutes and let me just mention there maybe you take your peak for the next five minutes and let's see how we can do one of them is that one in every ten extremely poor people live in Nigeria says World Bank then we also have northern groups tackle tinobu over withdrawal of three nations from Ekoas the third one is rev set December 2025 to deliver new constitution then a worrisome one here is that women protesters in Nassarawa to pay five hundred thousand Naira bill after twelve days in incarceration these are these are people the same the the guardian these are people who protested and then they were incarcerated and they had to pay five hundred thousand Naira and then poor preparation logistics student loan scheme these are all headlines that I would have wanted us to talk on but because we have very limited time I'd like you to take your peak whether one in every ten extremely poor live in Nigeria according to World Bank or the fact that northern groups are tackling tinobu over withdrawal of three nations from Ekoas they say is a security threat anyway and rev set December 2025 to deliver new constitution and then the Nassarawa women who protested that are supposed to pay five hundred thousand Naira bill or poor preparation logistics, tall student loan scheme take your picture you have been so unfair to me because each of those I just have to tell you I just say a word number one my heart goes out to the women of Nassarawa state we all know what happened in Nassarawa state we all know what happened we all know what happened and it is seen in the first instance for you to carry those women and incarcerate them even for one hour and then you now turn around to ask them to bail themselves I think that whoever I think that the federal government should the attorney general of the federation should look at that case and make sure that it's not true because it will be it will be I don't want to use the word unfortunate excuse me it will be I don't know the word I would like to use is not good so I'm sure you get what I'm saying get those women released today or before this afternoon I beg you number two loan scheme is not a student's loan scheme you know where my heart is there with the young people number one I felt scandalized by the amount that they set off for the loan scheme and then you cannot just make announcements without the necessary infrastructure tell us I am going to do this and I've set up the next three months to get a report on it but my intention is to make sure that there is adequate loan scheme for young people because for their education because we can continue this way they need to be helped that's enough three months time you come up and tell us we look for the way the money is we look at how the modernities will be and that is where a system works number three you see this for me the worrisome part is our borders with some of them if they were like a distant not as if it's okay I would not be as bothered as the fact that once there's a diplomatic between the two nations two nations that share border then there is a technical problem and I do not know how that is going to be resolved let me not leave and go back to that let me end on there's one of me is but one in ten Nigeria a poor person lives in Nigeria I believe that that's a statement that should not be the case at the end of this year if there's a statement that should provoke the president of the federal republic of Nigeria let that be that statement because it's a shame it's unacceptable it is scandalous it is absolutely preposterous for a nation like Nigeria and when I say a nation like Nigeria I know what I'm talking about technically we're a very poor country very poor country but in real terms we are one of the richest countries in the world what makes a country rich two things resources number two material resources or natural resources amongst others please name one country in the world that is more endowed than Nigeria in terms of natural resources anywhere go to look I get angry that I ate popo in my house and threw it away and travel and by the time I came back I find ten stands of popo and I'm like what don't they know that this is my field how can popo grow here I am angry that I threw on the floor it's growing whereas in some countries for that popo to grow they will need to consult the gods they will need to treat the soil that's the sort of soil we have in Nigeria and then we're a poor country secondly human resources I would round the world I can tell how many times I travel and where I have not been to there's hardly any place in the world you go to and at the top you don't find in Nigeria hardly we are so cerebral we are so industrious we are so endowed we are so intelligent we are so everything Nigeria apart from the Jews and then combine those two leave others and that same country is one of the poverty capital of the world it's an error ten percent of the extremely poor people live in Nigeria we would like to thank you we will leave the constitution matter to another time because our time is up right now since they say 2025 there's still more time to talk about it we do hope that the critical elements within the constitution are the ones that are going to be touched we are going to do a surety job my brother is the president so we talk that one let's just leave that one I said my brother is the president so we talk that one behind closed doors ok thank you so much for being a part of our program this morning architect thank you god bless you we will be talking with architect Ezekiel Nyayitok he is a public affairs analyst talking to us from Akwaibom state of the press that's the sequence that we had him join us we will take a very short break when we return we will be looking at the issues at the method of this school with the church and what is happening in the land ok so we will just take that moment now stay with us