 Governments of the industrial world, you weary giants of flesh and steel. I come from cyberspace, the new home of mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather. In China, Germany, France, Russia, Singapore, Italy, and the United States, you are trying to ward off the virus of liberty by erecting guard posts at the frontiers of cyberspace. These may keep out the contagion for a small time, but they will not work in a world that will soon be blanketed in bit-bearing media. Your increasingly obsolete information industries would perpetuate themselves by proposing laws in America and elsewhere that claim to own speech itself throughout the world. These laws would declare ideas to be another industrial product, no more noble than pig iron. In our world, whatever the human mind may create can be reproduced and distributed infinitely at no cost. The global conveyance of thought no longer requires your factories to accomplish. These increasingly hostile and colonial measures place us in the same position as those previous lovers of freedom and self-determination who had to reject the authorities of distant, uninformed powers. We must declare our virtual selves immune to your sovereignty even as we continue to consent to your rule over our bodies. We will spread ourselves across the planet so that no one can arrest our thoughts. We will create a civilization of the mind in cyberspace. May it be more humane and fair than the world your governments have made before. Written by John Perry Barlow, Davos Switzerland, February 8th, 1996. A big change of CDNs at the NHL as well as celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace. How are you doing, Eck? I'm doing great, Tom. Thanks so much for having me. It's great to be back. It's good to have you. It's been too long. And we had one of our analysts in our Slack actually send us one of many complaints about some problems with the NHL. So this is a good cross-section of sports and technology and especially bearing, even if you're not into sports, on the idea of getting things streamed to you over the Internet versus broadcast over the air, don't you think? Oh, yeah. I know. There's a lot to this. And I was at the press conference, luckily enough, last weekend when they were in Nashville for the All-Star game and they gave the press conference. So I got to talk face-to-face with a lot of the guys who did it before it actually hit the wall. So I've got a lot of good stuff to talk about. Awesome, man. Can't wait to talk about it. Let's start off, though, with the headlines. The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India has issued prohibiting discriminatory tariffs for data service regulations. That means no free basics, no zero rating. The regulation reads, no service provider shall offer or charge discriminatory tariffs for data services on the basis of content. In other words, Facebook's free basis can't provide some parts of the Internet for free while leaving the other parts to be charged by the ISP. Thanks to StarFuryZeta for posting this in the subreddit. Mark Zuckerberg says they're going to continue to do internet.org plans in India. Things like trying to roll out airborne Internet connectivity and things like that. But it sounds like India, the government, has said no. You can't give people portions of the Internet for free, thus creating portions of the Internet that are given an advantage over the portions that aren't free. Boy, there's a lot of angles to this, Tom. This is an intense story. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of angles to that. That's something that there's a lot to take in there. I'm not so sure what I think about that. It seems like there's good intentions and there could be not so good intentions. Well, free basics by Facebook is very popular in parts of Africa because people can get Internet when they couldn't get Internet at all. I think the difference with India is people, even if they can't afford a carrier, feel like they will be able to soon and they don't like the idea of certain parts of the Internet getting a boost. I don't trust Facebook in keeping data personal and private. That's legit. I could see why they wouldn't. Reuters reports, France's data protection authority has given Facebook three months to stop tracking non-users web activity without their consent. In other words, cookies. The company was also ordered to stop transferring data to the US on the basis of the Safe Harbor Agreement declared invalid in October. This is one of those things that Facebook says, again, look, all we're doing is what lots of ads do and the difference is they're Facebook and they collect a lot more data than those other advertisers do. The difference is they're in a different country. If there was a French country like Facebook, would we be feeling the same way? With Americans, we tend to maybe trust American companies and even we really should, but we trust them for sure. You can see how France, especially having lived in France for a while, I know what it's like there. You can't get Hellman's mayonnaise because they don't let you get Hellman's mayonnaise because it has to be French mayonnaise. This is a place that doesn't trust Americans off the bat. This completely stands with their character, in my opinion. It is something where I don't know how much of it has to do with the United States, which I think you're simplifying the case, but I think you're right. There's very much a pro-France first sentiment, as Patrick I think would agree, but there's also a real distrust of Facebook these days in particular. Yeah, and Facebook is an American company, but at the same time is a worldwide company too, but I can see in France where they would say it's an American company first, just from my experience at least. On Sunday, a data dump was posted on Twitter containing the names, titles, e-mail addresses, and phone numbers of more than 9,000 US Department of Homeland Security employees. The Twitter account said it would post data from 20,000 US FBI employees next. The data was also sent to Motherboard, which confirmed the data was legitimate. Source compromised an e-mail account and then used the details they learned from that e-mail account to socially engineer access to US Department of Justice staff portal. I think that last part is getting swept into the rug a lot here. This isn't a hacker who broke encryption. This is somebody who was able to get into an e-mail account, which granted, that is a security vulnerability that should have been corrected, but then socially engineered their way into the rest of it. Yeah, this is another, this is a scary sounding thing for sure. And you can see where people, three kind of scary stories to start off time. Yeah, yeah. How about this? This one's more fun. The Financial Times reports sources tell it that Google plans to release a more substantial virtual reality product than its current cardboard. The new headset would have plastic casing, better sensors and lenses, and support a wider range of phones. The report also mentioned more about bringing VR to the core of the Android operating system. I love this. And as you know, you can currently buy better versions of cardboard on Amazon and such. And I have a couple versions of them. And recently just used one when my son had to get a blood test. My son's terrified of needles. This is a tip for those parents out there. Throw a Google cardboard on their face and put a movie going with, and he's like, I won't see what's coming. And it rarely worked well. I like the fact that Google is doing this. I think it's already exists, but since Google is doing it officially, we get some more hype from that. Yeah, it sounds like from the article at the Financial Times and the Verge here that the idea would be to create a Nexus-like device to give you a reference piece of hardware and still encourage other companies to make these headsets. That's great, I think. Yeah. The Pirate Bay has added beta compatibility with the Torrents Time software. If you have Torrents Time installed on your desktop, you can click on a Streamit option from any listing on the Pirate Bay and you're watching the video in your browser. The video can also be sent to Chromecast or AirPlay. Popcorn Time online, obviously, which is very similar to this. Torrent Project, VideoMax, and OnlinePornTime have also added support for Torrents Time. The majority of content found on these search engines, I'm not going to lie, is probably copyright protected and downloading it and viewing it is probably going to violate laws in your area, but that doesn't make the actual software illegal and it doesn't matter to Netherlands Anti-Piracy Group, Brian, B-R-E-I-N, which VentureBeat reports sent Torrents Time a cease and desist and Torrents Time is fighting back. They responded, denying allegations that their product is illegal and refusing to comply with the cease and desist thanks to user Buzz Out Loud for posting this on the subreddit. Nice username, by the way there, Buzz Out Loud. Very good username, I like that. Throwback. Yeah. So, you know, it's one of those situations where Torrents Time is making a piece of software that does a thing and... Now, what does Torrents Time do? Because I think I might not be the only person who doesn't really... So, Popcorn Time blazed the trail with a piece of software that did this all in. What this does is say, you don't need to actually have anything in the software other than Torrents Time to use a website that is integrated. So, I go to the Pirate Bay, I see Public Domain, His Girl Friday Carry Grant video Torrent. I can press stream it and it just starts playing after it gets enough trackers. So, it may take, you know, a minute or two, but it actually just starts playing the movie, which is a great way to create infinite streaming suddenly without having to have a central server. Yeah, that is a wonderful service and not having to risk downloading, of course, malicious hard, malicious software in the process, I imagine it saves that as well. So, it's a good service. It is always going to be one of those things that could be used for good or evil, which is the internet, right? Well, and if I had to guess, I would guess that Torrents Time definitely had in mind the idea of streaming things that are probably protected by copyright. For sure. But that doesn't mean just because they lusted in their hearts to break copyright law, doesn't make their software illegal if they're not inciting people or they're not actually providing the copyright infringing content, and it doesn't sound like they are. This is what I love about the internet, you know, and this is the way, I mean, because when I deal with the, I was finding tying a little into the NHL and a lot of companies, there's an appearance of evil clause within contracts, which is something that doesn't exist on the internet really, because if it did, there would be problems. But companies, you can get fired for something that appears evil. I know somebody ran into that. You know, this is not, you know, I'm not calling Torrenting evil, but I'm just saying that there is an appearance here, like you said, that there's an appearance. This is probably something wrong, but because you can't prove it, that's a wonderful thing about the internet that it has to be absolutely proven to be wrong. Yeah. And that's a good thing. Motang on our subreddit noted that venture be confirmed with Google that Google Hangouts will now route audio and video over a period of peer connection when possible in order to improve quality and speed. Again, pretty much the same technology behind Torrents time, but used by Google for Hangouts. Feature has been spotted on Android and is apparently coming to iOS and the web as well. We really live in a fascinating time. These are all small things that seem like they'll be a part of something big that no one will really even understand in five years, but they'll exist. They'll be there. CBS reports the number of people who watched the NFL Super Bowl 50 and streamed online set a new record for streaming online. It did not set a record for viewers. It was less viewers, at least the early estimate is, than last year, but streamers watched 315 million minutes of game coverage with an average of 1.4 million people streaming the game per minute. Ricode notes the last year Super Bowl on NBC claimed 800,000 average viewers per minute with a total of 213 million minutes watched. CBS offered the game free over devices like the Xbox One, the Tokyo Chromecast and Apple TV using its CBS Sports app thanks to Scott Pantall for the subreddit post on this. I used it on the Apple TV and was lucky enough not to be hit with problems which a few people were using. And the reason I was streaming it on the Apple TV is my over the air was just kind of being janky. It wasn't bad. I could have watched it, but it was getting interference every once in a while. And I figured, well, let me try the stream and see if that's better. And it was in my case. Yeah, we had it in three different places actually in three different ways. We had it over the air and on cable. And we had it streaming in the other room too. So the thing I think about this year versus last year was it was a lot better. The streaming was better. The technology was better. Last year was, and last year was further behind too, which is a really big deal when you're actually watching, when you're trying to play along with Twitter or what have you. The game last year was a good five minutes behind. This year it was close enough that you could play along with your second screen. But yeah, bearing on our discussion topic today, we'll show that streaming video still isn't perfect. Like it's not a dead, simple replacement for over the year. It is interesting to me though that the most valuable broadcast on television, certainly in the United States, people are willing to just give away for free on the internet. It's an odd juxtaposition to the fact that I actually had a really hard time finding the puppy bull. Hey man, I got invited this year to the pre puppy bull journalism thing, which I'm going to do next year. And guys, the puppy bull is usually popular in our home. Last week, Twitter, well Buzzfeed actually, got everybody all excited because they were threatening to change the way the chronological, reverse chronological Twitter feed works. On Saturday, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey posted, we never planned to reorder timelines next week. Buzzfeed had reported Friday that Twitter would introduce a more Facebook style, algorithmically driven feed. The Verge received screenshots of a test of this new timeline. The screenshots show the salt mobile carrier, which is in Switzerland. So it might be a tester out there. It will add older tweets based on how long since you last checked in and a pull down to refresh that will give you chronological views. You can then choose to opt out of the feature as well. Patrick Bezier posted this Verge article about this yesterday and several people said, okay, that's not so bad. Other people said, nope, still should be opt in. Don't make me opt out of stuff. Yeah, yeah. I think I wouldn't opt. I wouldn't opt in too. I don't want to opt out. Although I do like the idea of screwing with the timeline and like for the same reason I just said before, of screwing with Twitter timelines, I would love to be able to start a Twitter timeline if I'm watching a show, like, you know, Breaking Bad or something like that. I would do a little delay. Yeah, I would love to be able to do that. You know, a program that you couldn't actually enter anything because nothing you enter would make sense but actually watching it on watching it and watching the tweets as they have it online would be a really good, I think that would be something that they should look into and it seems like this is sort of that but not quite. Yeah, it looks like this is for people who aren't power users. So they check in maybe once a day, maybe once a week and it's a way to give them kind of like the while you were out feature now on steroids. Here's a bunch of really good posts that have happened since the last time you checked and the idea that I can kind of makes this fine for me. The while you were out things have turned out to be kind of useful to me. I thought I would hate them when they first brought it out but I think what happened here is that Buzzfeed got ahold of the information before Twitter had a chance to acclimate people to the idea and of course when you shock people with without soft peddling a new feature and telling them how they have control over it and how they're listening you will tend to get internet outrage. Especially Twitter, you know, especially Twitter for whatever reason it's like someone compared to the other day that Twitter is your home is your new home phone like everybody has a cell phone and Twitter is your home phone I thought that was pretty interesting if you mess with your home it's like someone messing with your home phone if they mess with your Twitter feed people take it that that's seriously I kind of like that analogy I do think it is it is true to a degree and I like the while you're out as long as as long as they're being put together in a in a way that interests me and I think that's very difficult to do, you know I don't think that it's algorithmic right now and I think this is where Twitter should use some of its thousands to figure out what's there, you know that really legitimate stuff finally Samsung's UBD K8500 the first consumer 4k Blu-ray player is now ahead of its announced March release out apparently it's kind of sold out and Gadget reports video and audio center in Santa Monica sold out of the machine Friday after announcing it was on sale Best Buy started emailing pre-order customers saying that the release would be February 10 and members of the AVS forum reported seeing the machine at fries in the San Francisco area and San Diego 399 player works with Blu-ray, 3D Blu-ray DVDs, CDs in addition to Ultra HD UHD 4K Blu-ray and can stream 4K content from services like Netflix, Amazon and YouTube among a few others I think M-Go is even on there I don't know if it streams in 4K but it's listed on the box Wow yeah this just means that actual Blu-ray players will go from like $69 to $29 everything in the back in history you know this will now make everything less expensive it's exciting that I'm a real big 4K fan so I'm looking forward to this $400 a little much for streaming box which is what this is right now there are no 4K DVDs for you to buy yet right no 4K Blu-rays for you to purchase as of yet there's only going to be two out within the next couple months but you can get some 4K service from the streaming providers it's an early adopter thing if you're willing to spend more money than you should just to be able to watch it now well then you can get this you know what's funny about 4K and all the better like color TV and then HDTV and now 4K you've had to wait for technology to catch up as usual but in 4K since you can actually make your own 4K videos before videos are available it's the first time you couldn't make your own HDTV before HDTV was available that's a really good point but it is kind of strange how we've actually moved faster than they've allowed and then obviously that's because it's really expensive to go to 4K I've talked to people in Hollywood and Canada was in 4K two weeks ago it was the first hockey game I think done in 4K people got to watch the Canadians lose again but um yeah that was you know it is interesting how we've actually passed that time threshold for some I see a new version of Be Kind Rewind in the making there where you actually make 4K versions of movies ahead of time of the release right I like that anyway that is our look at the headlines thank you to everyone who supported the show by posting things on subreddit or just voting on things on subreddit you should at reddit.com that's the headlines alright so last Tuesday after the all star break the NHL decided to relaunch GameCenter it's no longer no longer called GameCenter it's NHL TV it's being taken over by BAM formerly MLBAM Major League Baseball Advanced Media they are the host of MLB TV they are also the host of HBO Now they host a lot of video HBO doing HBO Now on BAM was seen as a really smart move because when Game of Thrones premiered it didn't just bring down the servers however it does look like that is not the case with NHL TV people have been saying all kinds of things what's going on here yeah they went I mean for anyone who's ever launched a website after you know we've done a couple relaunches of our website I've been terrified to not do one for four years you just know that you're going to get killed no matter what you do right so it better be darn good because people hate change so much that you know the first part of the people people just hating the design in general but along with and saying there's too much white space too minimalistic too much like a you know a stock website type website but the actual lag time has been pretty bad unless you have super good internet you know and I haven't had super good internet because we do these kind of shows but for most people there you know we did a test today and people were loading and loading and loading just to get the scores and you kind of feel like you're going back to 1997 you know like this is not really what we need and yeah I think the biggest the biggest complaint and I think their biggest problem so far and I talked to the guys about it at the time a little bit is that they are so into this working everywhere on mobile and all that that they kind of made a mobile website for the internet itself and I think that that is really upsetting people people are saying you know what I want my internet website to be you know my website and my mobile website to be my mobile website we don't need it just because some people have touch screen on their computers and they have a NHL.com website I want that to have all the details like and they've taken out some things that they really take people off they took out something that really bothered me which is the condensed games which is something that I liked because you know I could watch all the games the next day without having to you know and see more than just the highlights I could get a feel for the game and they took that out and some of those things that they've taken out they could eventually put them back in I've been told I've talked to people up there but right now yeah there's a lot of people up a new tab whenever you do anything which is one of the things people are like you know you end up with like five or six tabs across the top of your screen that's scary but yeah there's there are some good parts to it though I mean the 60 frames per second really looks a lot better I mean it just it really just does so that part I like and that's that's true 60 frames per second on any device you could find like your your PlayStation or your anywhere so that looks a lot better because of the speed right because of the speed of the game and because of the black on white the very it's very difficult to do you know the black puck on the white on the white ice is you have to have that's why HDTV really boomed hockey in a big way but yeah this was one of the first things I saw on an HDTV that just blew me away was hockey on HD net so yeah because for years I think hockey fans who knew the game could watch a game on TV because they knew the game but they weren't really seeing the puck which is why we got glow pucks and things like that which just celebrated history a couple of days ago too happy birthday glow puck oh the glow puck I know you can buy them on eBay for like $500 piece glow pucks but yeah but they won't glow of course because you don't have that technology unless you own that technology but they were the pucks that they were used proprietary glow puck yes but they were used so yeah so why is it that I'm looking at ahl.com and I'm not I'm here on a 300 megabit per second connection granted I'm streaming with you right now right I don't get the image that goes along with the jets that's been signing with Winnipeg that's not oh we should have a second CDN that's not a design issue that's just a failure like that shouldn't happen I think that there's a limited amount of resources at the NHL.com right now and so many have actually focused on fixing the thing to make sure it runs better than I think some of the some of the basic things like that are falling through the cracks right now which they didn't before and you're right I mean Dustin Bufflin signing today is a big deal for those people in Winnipeg and for those people who are hoping to get them at the trade deadline but he um yeah I mean that fact that that's not it's been slow in general and that there's not on the main website just a headlines thing that used to be there it used to be like four or five six headlines now you have to go through when you click on the headlines you go through a little condensed version of every story so you're scrolling a ton yeah unless it doesn't load like it did for me and then you only get the one story you only get the one story yeah and people you know Bob Bowman who's the president of BAM formerly and major league baseball advanced media said that the problem on launch day was a failure in the archiving on the CDN and he said well maybe we should have had two CDNs but we wanted to keep it simple so we could track down problems faster we're only having one CDN that doesn't I mean that could have explained a Tuesday outage it seems like the complaints are still going on oh yeah the complaints are still going on and this is and the NHL gets great traffic at angel.com I mean this is a this is a fan base that doesn't have as much coverage in your basic cable TV and stuff like that so they go to angel.com for their news so I guess the question I'm left with is I have looked at BAM aka MLBAM as somebody who knew what they were doing they've done a great job with MLB.com over the years and MLB.tv they did a great job with HBO now is it telling that it's the NHL that they're having problems with is the NHL keeping hold of some things or not cooperating or causing problems Bowman sort of danced around that issue in one of the interviews that I read but of course he doesn't want to throw him under the bus I did ask that to him too who's at the press conference um yeah I said you know why the rush because this I was told was going to come out next year and to launch in the middle of the season as well you know that I think that was a little that was very you know very opportunistic sort of and just a little too much to try to pull off um yeah I don't I don't know I don't think the NHL is withholding anything at all and I think that what's happening is they really do trust BAM like they have they they when they went out they went all in with them you know for sure and for good reason because of like you said they success with HBO and streaming but there's a lot more to it than that you know there's there's a lot too just a basic website right and especially what people are used to and people are people who grow accustomed to it as part of their daily lives so if you mess the mess with that you got to mess with something better or at least and leave some of those similar elements I think they went too far you know they just you want to you don't want to just change the iPhone over night to a to a different kind of phone all together you do keep parts of it you know that's what they did here they didn't keep parts of it and that's really baffling to people and it comes on the it's funny TSN which is the ESPN of Canada TSN.ca it's a very another big hockey website that every hockey fan will go to just did a revamp as well a couple months ago and made the same mistakes in the same way um so people who are complaining about this are complaining about NHL.com and TSN and here we are we're actually a pretty big website in the US and then we're resigning our site and I'm like we're going to take our time here we I don't care if it launches next year I want to see how what people really want you know what people are okay with in the long term because this is tough I mean it's tough to pull this off. Yeah and I don't mean to minimize what Bam is trying to do here. There's always a big difference between having your dozen or more testers in-house trying out the new system and having hundreds of thousands or more people with all different kinds of devices trying out your new system that's when you find the bugs so it's never easy. I think it's just surprising because Bam seems to have figured out how to avoid most of those pitfalls in the past and this time it's not only not working well it's spectacularly failing at least on launch day. It is and I know and it's not just there too because NHL the NHL show that comes on the NHL network is produced out of MLB's studios too and that has had issues as well. I really feel as if trying to do this on the fly with the NHL granted off season is very short but trying to do this on the fly has been a problem and they were really excited about this partnership but why not take your time a little bit more in the process and it feels like Bam we do everything great so we can just do this and I know people who work there and there will be the flat out tell me that they're doing twice as much work and that they didn't hire enough people when you join a partnership like this you need to bring in more people so I think there's a lot to be learned here they're interesting how they're trying to cover it and fix it on the fly now they're definitely putting resources down but then something like the Dustin Bufflin picture which everyone is noticing people will notice that on Twitter it will be all over the place so the NHL has to I think real this in and they need to hire some extra people to get this up and running quicker it was too crazy they really wanted to put it out at the same time as the All-Star game I think was their thinking. They probably agreed to too small of a budget for what they wanted to do and then we're too aggressive in the launch date. Yeah because you know these I've been in these meetings oh we'll just make this change here it's not going to be anything all those things that aren't anything are everything at the end of the day. Can we get by with two QA people instead of five? Sure, yeah why not? Well that's no problem we'll just do that and then all these compromises that end up becoming a mountain out of a molehill type situation I think that's what's happened here and I do know that they're working very hard at it I've talked to them a lot about it and they know what's going on and they're aware of it and they really are very the NHL particularly is very into public perception but they also did hand this over very much to MLB so when you talk to NHL now I used to talk to NHL about things like this I'm being referred to MLB people right away you know like talk to this person. They're in charge, they're the ones doing it. Alright well let's get to our pick of the day it comes from Nate Langson of X Message as well as a top tier tech reporter in his own right. He's sending in a pick for VPN called AirVPN he signed up for the product about a year ago he's been paying it for it every month happily he wanted a VPN service that allowed him to use port 80 which may or may not have been so he could access something online over Wired's corporate network. This worked well at the time and since then I've taken advantage of the fact that configuration options are extremely numerous offering multiple simultaneous connections from multiple devices multiple servers in many countries no bandwidth limits and support for open VPN as well as SSL SSH and multiple other features well I've been a very happy customer and the service does exactly what it says in the box I would really love to know how all the service stacks up in the eyes of security experts maybe listeners with experience with that could shed some light on whether AirVPN is seen as a secure and trustable service for more serious security users rather than just people who want to game over corporate networks or not so there you go AirVPN might be worth checking out but take a look around see how it works and Nate is wondering if he can use it as a security device as well so if you have any insight on that let us know feedback at dailytechnewshow.com you can find more picks at dailytechnewshow.com Mike had just listened to the discussion with Scott on Friday about Amazon stores on Wednesday and it reminded him of an email imagine this you go into an Amazon store ask for a specific book the assistant tells you they have it in the closest distribution center and if you'd like to have a free coffee while you wait the drone will bring it to the store shortly Wow having worked at Borders Bookstore for a long time in college sure maybe I mean if we I can just imagine though as an employee as the drone arrived yet now the drone is not here yet tell them the drone will be here soon yeah yeah yeah where's the drone I don't know says it's here I don't see it the tracker says it's right here but I don't know where it is yeah I don't see the drone is that it way up there? no that's Ebay's drone Daniel Hoffman recently relocated from Cincinnati to St. Louis was thinking about the discussion from Friday about virtual reality and says is the VR Unreal Engine editor basically a whizzywig editor for game creation virtual environments could it bring 3D environment creation to a more general audience depending on the execution in the hardwork house I see a demarcation of game creation happening much like web development in the early days you had to know HTML and how to manage servers now it's as simple as Squarespace or even just a Facebook page I'm interested in what Scott was saying about the object oriented databases what if instead of writing code you just stack blocks and ran lines together kind of Minecraft like the way he describes it there make your own VR world that would be awesome yeah I mean I've been waiting for that for a long time even with mobile apps you know would be one if I'd have a really good mobile app whizzywig some I know they're out there but this that would be interesting in this environment Dan in San Antonio, Texas and several other people he was the first one I saw actually I think it was the second one I saw wrote in to say hey when you were mentioning that the catalog companies had stores first and then catalogs you're wrong about Sears Sears started as a catalog company and opened their catalog locations to serve small towns that weren't served by big department store retail like Macy's the reason this piqued my curiosity said Dan to go out and check it out was because of the many references by my elders of the dual use of Sears catalog pages in the current catalog you could browse them to order other products but the expired catalog pages were often used in the little brown shack out back for another purpose. Do you remember this year's catalog? I do remember this year's catalog. I mean that was especially around Christmas that was a huge deal the back Sears catalog, the Montgomery Ward catalog, the JC Penney Wishbook Kitty City. I didn't have Kitty City, we had Dillards though. Yeah, Dillards, okay, yeah. I would just stay with that Sears catalog circling everything I wanted for Christmas forever. Yeah, yeah. And then Friday we implied that Apple issued a free replacement for a defective iPhone brought in by a Guardian Freelance Journalist according to the Guardian article the journalist had to pay 270 pounds to replace his iPhone sorry for the misimpression we gave there a couple of you wrote in correcting that as well thank you for that and that is it for the show thanks to everybody for watching thank you Ek. If people want to follow you on Twitter go to hockeybuzz.com I guess you just go to hockeybuzz.com where can they find all the things you do? Yeah, hockeybuzz.com we do a podcast like the Daily Tech News Show but like basically the Daily Hockey News Show everyone every one o'clock every eastern time one every eastern whatever I'm trying to say there you understand we do that and I'm at Ekland on Twitter and at Ekland on Instagram so yeah definitely definitely check that we have a lot of fun we do we really are I love doing a daily podcast it really structures your day so it's something I've enjoyed doing quite a bit. Tell me about it. 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tomorrow with Patrick Beja we're gonna talk to him about bandwidth talk to you then this show is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants.com Diamond Club hope you have enjoyed this program excellent no pun intended pun intended pun intended so that was fun there's your title for the show excellent excellent no that was not intended but it was perfect I'm gonna stop the audio stream for a moment because I had a little difficulty on my end and then I'm gonna start it back up again so do not panic. everything is going to be just fine basically for some reason the recording didn't happen one of those days because I started this show in an office and now I'm in a car what's impressive you know most doggy mommy hashtag doggy mommy's wow apparently my dog is having a panic attack at the groomers so you look very fashionable Jenny so what I picture there Jenny is like he's got everyone hauled up in a closet you're not grooming me no chance they called and they were like well he's sort of like pacing around his cage he's totally freaking out do you think you could come sooner than 230 I was like okay because apparently he just had his seven teeth out so maybe it's like a little too soon to take him to the groomer he's probably not a happy dog after having seven teeth out he's probably not a happy dog so um anyway wait till you get that Roger wait till you get tooth fairy time tooth fairy's been killing me this past month oh yeah my son's teeth are falling out all at the same time so I remember I vaguely remember what it feels like is it painful for your tooth to fall out like for for for your son because she's no yeah it depends like my son my son just pulls him out of his mouth because he wants gifts my daughter just cried like crazy if they were hanging on by a thread so it's like it really depends on the personality but my son tends to pull him out at like 10 30 at night like you know and if you're like if you're the tooth fairy like I am in this home it's not fun to suddenly like he can't be I can't wait to see what I get tomorrow and like it'll be something from the supermarket right I finally went out and bought like three tooth fairy gifts the other day just like three like Disney infinity characters I'm like I'm gonna keep these aside keep them there and he hasn't lost a tooth since so of course that'll happen so no it's yeah but with my daughter was horrifying she was terrified of it yeah I had her I had to like um hold a hold an ice cube to her tooth and wait for it to numb and then try to pull it little bits of the time sing a song put ice cube on it just like you know it would be it would be an hour long hour and a half long process my parents used to give me creamed a myth on my gums after oh there you go you see that's good yeah sure whiskey would work too you know it's not legal to give your kids benedra when they're not having allergic reactions I think that's that's something I've noticed do you like put it in a little box oh yeah yeah we do and yeah I mean it's kind of strange you know I would wonder if like if aliens discovered our civilization in the future like why were they saving their teeth but yeah I was thinking making a necklace out of her baby teeth oh that's kind of cool I like that pretend that was like a surfer and like fought off like shark's teeth I love that well those are the things you'll do you know like it's I um I hid shark's teeth one time our kids were looking for that we were at the beach and our the kids next to us were all finding shark's teeth and my kids were like looking for shark's teeth and couldn't find them like I can't find them like I'm getting really frustrated so I went out and I bought me some sharks teeth and hid them in the sand and the kids next to me found them oh no I'm like holy cow what is that about yeah that's bad news you gotta watch that kind of stuff that's really not good that and um and also like the uh metal detectors at the beach are another fun thing to like go go pre-hide things like wow there I can't believe this would be just hidden under the sand go out with a metal detector I've seen less and less of those guys yeah no the new jersey I think they still exist quite a bit um where I go to the beach but but yeah it's really like there's nothing cooler than hiding like some really cool metal things and then coming back out with a metal detector your kids thinking they found them it's the greatest thing ever they get so fired up it's true but I mean is it is it a white lie or is it just uh just not if you tell them about it later if you charge them for the toys you're okay um that's great you found that yeah but one thing I found I found one of those infinite portals that has the the mirror that looks like a mirror with with lights that goes on forever I hid that under the sand and when they're digging through it and they look down they're like wow there's a portal that goes on forever through this under the sand that's pretty cool there you go that's a geek dad moment for sure so every time a whole show Tom I was thinking how's the NHL gonna be pissed at me um and they won't be because everything I've talked about all this stuff so I was like there's nothing that you know I mean they really you know that they just they did too fast they did yeah well and I think you did a good job of saying hey this is this is what they've said this is what happened you know I don't think they're trying to deny it no they're not I mean they they're they're very much aware of it it is definitely a case of MLB thinking they could do everything without bringing more people on that's what the by the end of our conversation that's what what I felt was probably rung closest to the truth was just uh underestimated resource needs yep exactly and we did HBO fine that was no problem so yeah but HBO only needs serving you know a little bit of publishing it doesn't have all of the things that a live sports league has right right including anything they've been hiring writers too and they've been hiring new writers and that's been a big controversial issue as well because they're bringing on people who used to work in baseball that they know but now we're hockey and they're like talking about home runs it's embarrassing they're not canadian enough right yeah there's a whole bunch of things definitely get that right right that's for darn sure that's funny well yeah I think it's I think it was a really interesting conversation just from the the aspect of wow just because a company has been amazing about things doesn't mean it can't have trouble no yeah and and and like you said the fact that they didn't beta test this really in any way she before me would have been they didn't even put the they should have put it like they dual launched as a beta tag or something like that or something they could have done but there's tech they're not they're not a tech company you know they don't think that way that's like a tech company would have done that they would not have well that sounds like an NHL issue not a bam issue right there which is like what do you guys want to do and they're like well this is what we want to do this is how we want to launch it so I think what I would have done is you launch it after the Stanley Cup in a free preview with classic games and last season's games and then slowly build up till there's you know a small charge to get started for the pre-season and then you do the official launch like right it's perfect and that and then you could have done it I mean the offseason still looks like there's still a lot of news going on in hockey but it's not you know it's not like you're in this spot the other thing they introduced is really weird was this 299 thing which we didn't talk about which is that you get like the last five minutes of a game you see that yeah and the overtime is in the shootouts only yeah and that's not how hockey works no that's basketball perhaps maybe maybe you know basketball is more along the alliance see the last five minutes yeah no I want to have the blues on in the in the background right right you're not keeping an eye on it and I still I went up to them and just like in my cord killer stuff I went up to the guy I'm like does this mean we're gonna be able to watch in market games now come on right what's holding us back no way he's like no not quite not yet like why why in Canada can they why can't I really just I really just went hard for that I almost asked Gary Batman during his press conference I'm like I don't know because that's really I mean it's MLB this is MLB's fault for in implementing it the way they have it's NHL's fault for trusting MLB completely to do it that's my thinking right but they because they really just handed over like okay you got it now we're good all right well happy redundancy the audio will be a little bit less full than it usually is unfortunately for this one but at least I have a copy of it but fortunately the dog is back adorable too how is Jax I'll show you he is he's working it's working it pretty hard Jax well cute dog I gotta text you that we did a cartoon I'll text you Jenny we my my I have a big dog and a little dog so we did one of these fun cartoons of just I filmed them one time just twink just screwing with each other and our big dog is just and I and I and I stopped into pictures and then I put little captions on and it's just because you know we have a little smart shitsu and a really dumb big corgi and so the shitsu is just constantly toying with him and it's it's fun to watch so it's it's just really right up I know you're your detective dogs you like it too it's all it's all right there they're they're just the hilarious oh my gosh and then we got a giant blizzard too and home that was like watching a shitsu was one years old take take take on 21 inches of snow was was fine that's awesome well that was a great show I listened the whole way except on side streets where I would lose the call oh weird anytime I was on a major avenue I was fine but if I was on the side street it just erred the call out it was interesting mobile internet um okay I'm gonna go so that I'm not driving while talking on the yeah yeah good idea I'm gonna end the broadcast thanks everybody for watching thanks again act it was great having you thank you so much thanks jenny thanks roger all right we'll talk soon see you guys soon bye bye now