 We are going to talk specifically about natural medicine. There is natural medicine, there is also conventional medicine. Natural medicines are these medicines that are extracted naturally from the herbs, from the flowers, from everything. But clean old medicine is what you get when you visit the hosi. My name is Ankara Kaisu and I am here with Dr. Mwenyewe. I am privileged today to call you Dr. I don't know if you are going to fit in that name because it's not your first time here. Welcome Kevin Orinda. Thank you so much for having me. Tell us about yourself. First of all, thank you for calling me Dr. You know, when I was growing up, I didn't know that someday I'll be called Dr. You know, it is a title I've added in my names because there are people who are lawyers, others are presidents, others are pastors, others are husbands. I'm not yet a husband, but you've added me a title, Doctor. The truth is good. Do you think it fits you? At the moment it does. As I'm going on with what I do, it will continue and finally, I'll be proud to be called a doctor when I get that certificate. Okay, you've not told us, told us about yourself, just tell us. About yourself, what you do, your social media handles and everything so that the viewer will know who we are talking about. Okay, my names are Kevin Orinda. We can call me Kevin Peter Orinda. My friends call me Voke of Voke Bazenga. I am a digital content creator. I am a YouTuber. I am a hype master. And recently, the beginning of late last year, is when I began doing medical herbal products. What fits you to do this, to do... Okay, first you do so many things. Yes, yes you do. Where do you get the energy to do so many things and you want personal? First of all, I'm still a youth. And that means I'm still energetic. Yes. And I have the energy to do a lot of things now that I'm still young. Yes. And what inspired me is where I do go to church. I go to church, I'm an Adventist. And where do I go to church is Mojes D.A. And there's a class called medical missionary. So what I mean by medical missionary is basically, you get to understand or rather, you get to learn about medical herbal medicine. Yes. And that's my inspiration came late in November last year, up to now. It started by... I used to sell one product called Mtundula. Which is Mtundula. Mtundula is a Tanzanian name or rather a product which is bought from Tanzania. It has four components. It has something called in Kiswili Mdalassini, karafu, hiliiki and lemongrass. Lemongrass in my language, we call it majandulum. That is in the luo. Oh, it's called lemongrass. Lemongrass. The one they put in the tea. In the tea, in black tea. It brings some flavor. It has a very appealing smell and a very sweet black tea. I used to enjoy it while I was young. Yes. I no longer access it. You have it? Yes, I do have it. I have it in raw and also grinded one in powdered form. Okay. Yes. So you've been doing natural medicine. You said you started with that one. Yes. And now how many do you do? How many kinds do you do? Now I have close to, there are many, there are close to 50. There are very, very many natural medicine products. How helpful do you think to people, to your clients who have been using them? Let me tell you Kaisu. We have three types of medicines. Or other drugs. The first best medicine is the food that we eat. You know, when somebody decides to do a lifestyle order to you, atataka kujwa, the kind of food that you eat. Yes. So you're not supposed to eat fatty foods. You're supposed to eat natural foods. That is in bogazaki eneji, ugalia brown. What do you mean by fatty foods? Fatty foods, I mean foods that contain cholesterol. I know we all love eating fries. And fries have a lot of fat in it, you see. Or rather in the morning you want to fry eggs. Or rather maybe sausages or smokies, which are not good. They're also good but they're not so good for you. They're not healthy for the body. Yes. So those are the fatty foods. So you say food number, medicine number one is natural food. Then medicine number two is herbal medicine. By herbal medicine I mean vituzaki eneji. You got it. That was a kenyeji. But you are confusing me. Are you these people who put posters in town advertising so many things that they have? They are treating things that they are methenzi. They are treating returning lost items. And then there are some energies. They add to people that I don't want to mention here. Are you in that category? No, I'm not in that category. Ati to return lost items to somebody in the U.S. Yes. Kuna zingene atia kufanya weni wukuna deniwa wa sahawu. I've also seen those things. Kuna zingene ina confuse makangata kuliza fair. Ati uta ulezwa rent na nini. We both are just... As a Christian I don't believe in such. I don't believe in such as a Christian. My herbal products are the ones that... When you have conditions like this chronic conditions like diabetes, arthritis, blood pressure, cancer, these conditions that you can manage, but you cannot treat. Kusuno jwezo konditions as YZTB can. You just manage them. And then medicine number three at the conventional medicine that we take, the drugs that we normally take each and every day. When you go to the hospital or you walk into a pharmacy and you're given these normal drugs to take. So you're rating herbal medicine higher than the conventional medicine. We want to know your reason. My reason for me rating herbal medicine number two compared to conventional medicine is because herbal medicine, they are the best. You remember mababuze, when you feel unwell, you'll be told usimeze penkila. Tumia ni ni majimoto. Ama you having a fever, you're being told kunyua kunyua take something like hibiscus or take something like... Something that treats common headaches. Something I have a product called peppermint oil. It is also a herbal product. It is just a small tiny oil but very, very strong. The oil you just put one drop in hot water, you cover yourself with a blanket or a towel, then you just inhale all these things out. It helps in treating common headaches. It also helps in respiratory problems. When you're having respiratory problems like breathing difficulties, heart ache and even running nose, cold and coughs. You said heart aches. Do you have one for heart breaks? Heart breaks depend on you. There's no medicine for heart breaks. It's either you fall into depression or you stand as a man and focus on soja on. So at this, your drugs, bazanga hubs, do you deal on curative or preventive? Do you advise people on how they can live so that they avoid contracting these diseases or you wait for them to be sick, then you make money out of it? No, you cannot wait for somebody to fall sick so that you can make money out of them. But either way, it works. For example, I'll give an example of a lot of ladies call me. Some of them, I don't know them, they just call me. They just call me to make my tummy flat. So I have five products on that. There's something called chia seeds. A lot of people know chia seeds. Chia seeds. Chia seeds, they are just seeds that you put in smoothies or yoghurt or mala or just water. So if you want to get sick, then you don't have to go to Kalafani. Those are chia seeds. They really help in weight loss. Okay, without doing exercise? Without abstaining from some foods, without starving yourself? No, I'm getting there. Okay. And there's also green tea. Yes. Activated charcoal and there's something called sena. Sena is very good for weight loss and kupoteza elet tummy. So for you, you can take that, mostly ladies or other even men. When you're taking that, you're supposed to avoid sugary stuff. You know sugar has calories. And sugar, do you know, fanyam tu wa nanon na zahidi? Sugar, tu inajoro lorivu na. No, I love chia in sugar cane. Is that bad too? That's not bad. That's very good. So there are three options. You can use something called stevia. You can use something called molasses. Molasses in desukariyamba wa wala tu akuna diabetes wa wana tumiyama solchaya. Or jagari. It's just jagari which has been skaringuru. And then lastly, we have honey. Honey is the best natural sugar you could ever use. Honey, you can even just take a full... A scoop of teaspoon or something. Yes, of honey. Yeah. So you also teach people on how to prevent this. Yes, I do teach people on how to prevent and how to maintain so that you can just take... Wachana nasukari kabisa? Use honey. So on weight loss and all that, I know this is why where most people are really concerned about, there is a way somebody can just drink some herbs, abstain from sugar, just sugar, and then they naturally lose weight. Have you like led some people, successfully led people, some people to losing weight in this way? In fact, I'm not perfect. This is a lady who told me I gave her green tea together with charcoal. You know what she did? She went and combined them together. Yes. After two weeks, ali lose weight vizurisana. Ono jakuna wale wana... Madam really, they mind a lot losing weight. They want to stay kavashias without being petite. They want to be kavashias, but the stomach should be flat. So ali ndaka combined, activated charcoal together with green tea. That's why I'm saying I'm not perfect. I think she just thought, let me do this. After two weeks, she really looked amazing. Is there a drug that you can use to just lose the belly fat or the tummy fat, but you remain with the rest of your shape? Yes. There's one drug... How is it called? There are two drugs. There's one called fat go. Fat go? The other one has an Indian name called medohar vati. Medohar vati? Vati. Oh, medohar vati. Medohar vati, there are tablets which are made from herbal products. So these tablets, you take two tablets each and every single day, there are 100 tablets. Yes. Ono tumia tuivo, na ina maliza, tummy tu kabisa tu vizurisana. 100 tablets? There are 100 tablets. So you use them twice a day? You can even google it. You can even google medohar vati. Ata ina maliza kitambu kwa wanaume and even ladies. How much is it? Medohar... Oh, you don't sell it. Do you sell it? I sell it. I even have it. Oh, yes. So maybe you leave your contacts so that maybe after that somebody wants to contact you. Yes, you can slide on media. Bazenga hubs, bazenga underscore hubs, underscore KE on Instagram. Bazenga hubs on Facebook and you can check out my catalog on WhatsApp. Okay, I also want to know how you benefit from this because I know as much as you want to help people, there is the business part of it. Today is entrepreneurship Tuesday. There is entrepreneurship part of it. Can you encourage another person, a youth of this country to venture into this? Yes, I can do so. You know, when the pandemic came, a lot of youth lost their jobs. So you sit down and think of what to do. And so I can encourage all the youth. Usika e tuho matiyona job. Even the lady who just left the platform a few minutes ago, she was talking about entrepreneurship. Atokunel fumbili, you can do something. You can go to Marikiti, get some tomato and sell and make money out of it. So personally, I can tell you, I do retail and I do also wholesale. Come to me, I can give you my products at a wholesale price, you go sell, make money out of it. Do you make good money out of it personally? Is it your main job? No, it is not my main job, but I have a main job and this is like a side hustle, but it keeps me busy compared to my main job. Okay. Because I really get a lot of phone calls. Yes. And a lot of referrals. Yes. Abarika yasunilipuwa nambana, flaniflani tukansaflani yama. Yes, I referred somebody for you, for natural, for charcoal, I think from Roaraka, Madalina or something. Yes, yes. I remember. Yes, yes. Infact, I took it to him very late night. Yes. And the person was, I think the wife was the one who was feeling unwell. Yes, yes. Chakul really helps in heartburn, diarrhea. It also helps in whitening the teeth. You can use it. I think today there is a toothpaste which is combined with activated charcoal in it. So personally, when you put paste on your toothpaste, before you brush, you just put a little bit of activated charcoal in it, then you brush. Do you prepare them yourself? Or you buy them prepared? I buy them, I buy them. Something like hibiscus, I get them from Uganda. Do you personally go to Uganda to get hibiscus? No, I don't, but I import. So others you prepare? Others like lemon grass. Activated charcoal, lemon grass. There's something called Himalayan salt. It is natural Himalayan salt. You know it comes in a stone like. Then you have to break it into. Particles so that it can... So those ones you prepare? So once you prepare, they are once you buy, already made, they are once you import. Do you trust the process of making them? Is it certified? Is it healthy? Yes, it is healthy. About the process, it needs machines, special machines. You know you cannot use your hands. It needs something like charcoal. You will get a lot of dust out of it. You don't know what it is? Makaa. And to the viewers, it is not makaa that we use. What is it? It is activated charcoal. What is activated charcoal? Activated charcoal is made from eucalyptus. It is gotten from eucalyptus tree. Eucalyptus tree. It's not atam suaki, the components of suaki in a kuanga, eucalyptus. Yes, it's made from eucalyptus tree. And there's also activity charcoal from Baobab tree. Very, very good and very essential. What do people do with it? Like people just drink that charcoal? Yes. What you do, another client called me and she told me that she loves it and normally before she sleeps, she just, who are on a lumber too. But the best way you can just put a tablespoon on warm water. Yes. You stir, then you drink. What's the benefit of that? The benefit of charcoal, it helps. You know that moment you're having stomach ache? Yes. You're having stomach ache, you're having diarrhea. It really helps. It helps to stop the stomach problem and the diarrhea. And it also acts as a face mask. A lot of ladies. By face mask I mean, you know a lot of ladies or other not just ladies, you might have acne or pimples or black spots or ringworms. So this charcoal which you do, you make paste, you make a paste. You make a charcoal kidogo somewhere, then you just pour a little bit of water. Shatting it as a paste on a paka kwaus. So do you come to show on our channel what paka yuki to then they just lie down for a few minutes? Yeah, they look, they look, they look horayish. Yes. They look scary when they paka kwaus. When they paka it for some few hours. And even if she was Michelle who did that, you won't know it's Michelle. So that is what is confidence. That's the secret. That's the secret they normally do each and every single evening or other. In the evening after they come from work. So if you remain kifanyaivo, kishaun takuja pavi different. Amma it takes some time. It takes some time. A duration of maybe a week or two. Okay, let's get back to natural medicine. Are they legit? Are they allowed by the government? Amma ni magendu. Now, natural medicine are allowed. There's somebody called Murugu Harbol. Yes. There's another one called... I normally see them on some local TV stations. Yes. They're allowed. The problem with Harbol medicine you'll have to undergo some process. Or for you to be certified. Yes. For you to be certified, you have to have papers from the medical department. From the Kenya Bureau of Standards, you'll have to have KEMP's papers. Because you know when you're packaging, you cannot package something without the KEMP sticker. Uta shikuwa naka anjo. Okay. Eh, who? You na fanya na hei. Hei, ni ni ni ni ni ni. Za ni ni ni. Na una? There is a body in Kenya that certifies medicine. It's called Kenya Medicines and Poison Sport. Yes. I don't know whether they also certify the Harbol people to practice herbalism. I remember the first time I was selling tundula, I had to take it to the Kenya Poison Sport and they were like, ah, ni ni ni ni. It was even before Covid. You know before, last time I bought gloves and I was in Karybia. Kwanza tawgopafu kiriye. The gloves are in Somu. In Dulu, we call it a juwaga. Yeah, you are a magician. When you wear it, you'll be like, you are a magician. So they'll have to take it to the lab, do a lab test on it, then write down the components that it contains for other entails. Then they'll certify it and allow you now to... They'll give you a certificate, have a certificate from them. I normally work with it so that they can certify that. You are free to sell this product. So you are people certified by the government? Yes. My problem with herbs or with herbal medicine is that there are so many quarks in it. Those who are not certified or kora, kora wenewa na pora tuatu, they come to you, they tell you they sell this. Have you been into a bus and then somebody just pops in and say, usikuwa na tumbu kufbu wa uva. So there is a way, usikuwa kulaivi and then there is this product. We are selling it at a thousand and then because today's promotion, you are going to give to you free. You are only going to give us a packaging fee of a hundred more. Of a hundred more. But we have encountered such people. Yes, I've come across them. Now you are now somebody who is certified, who is operating legitimately. What is your take on them or how can we deal with such people? You know, everybody has a freedom of expression a freedom of doing anything. So there is nothing you can do to them because when that person stands up in a bus, this bus is going all the way to Kindube and you will stand from my mahi to Naarok talking to these people. It's also making money. Yes. So you will just uta mangalia tunu niya maze tu ama tu ta manbia ebu kumpi matu uchkutu mangalia tui project ya ke kama ni legit. One or two authenticity ya yu product ya ke. Maitechnikul sound lead is called Stella Umuenga. She's asking how much she can spend for her to do away with the tummy. Just tummy alone on an approximation side. Now, like I said, she can spend for her, maybe I can give her that Medohar Vati. It's 3000 bob and this one, she'll take two doses. When she finishes the first dose, she'll take the second one. Okay. This is the one you drink for 50 days. It's 100 tablets for 50 days. 100 tablets for 50 days. One each. Two each morning. Okay. Then there's also Janet. She's asking the face mask how much it can cost for her to totally achieve a smooth face. Now, for you two of us smooth face, I have different kind of products. A lot of viewers, I know they know something called Shia Bata. Ro Shia Bata, very Ro. Now this Shia Bata, he doesn't want an oily face in a takailu, so too you see oily. So when you apply Shia Bata, it gets rid of stretch marks, it gets rid of acne, it gets rid of pimples, it gets rid of black spots. Okay. They're asking about these pills that they take for 100 days. Does it affect in any way the lactation? It does. Ule mamma bayana nyonyaisha, ay nashida. Oh. Ule mamma ata expectant. Okay, for lactation, for expectant no, but for one who's lactating, ay nashida. Do these medicines have side effects generally to, let's not talk about Maziwa alone. Do they have side effects, natural medicine? Natural medicines. Yes. There are some which do have side effects. For example, you will take something called sena. Sena is very, very good. This sena, see you want to have a flat tummy, you'll take it, then afterwards, you tend to, you tend to diarrhea, then you'll come call me, nambu na ii produktyaku na fanya na endesha. Now you're the best part, that moment you are, you are throwing, you are driving. That means it's working. It's really working. In atua ile, yu uchafu yot in atua. So you don't call that side effect, you call it a process of your kutibu. So to some they are like it is a side effect, but I always tell them, that's the reason it is working. What are some of the diseases that you really measure, that you can count yourself, you've successfully treated people from them? Don't use the word treating, let's use the word managing. Oh, so you don't treat, you only manage diseases, but it's not a disease you can successfully get rid of and say, amepona atua. Okay, let's say alfsals, something like alfsals, activated charcoal treats. Treats? In amaliza yote. After kwanisus tomak alfsals anymore, when you use activated charcoal, each and every day, in the morning 30 minutes before you take breakfast, you just take it, you just take one teaspoon in warm water, you start, make sure you drink the components. Usingoze zile vituambal, iso charcoal unafaw kuni, imesetul palepo wa chini, make sure kurogano me kuniwa, before, before breakfast, 30 day evening, then in the evening. Just take charcoal each and every single day, asasiyakos taisha. Something like arthritis, kuna mama moja kwa pa uchumi house, Nairo town, it was just a referral, ilimpelike a dawa ingine, it's called MUFASIL tablets, very good for arthritis, alikwana furamugu, anata apakuhil, there's, of course, her manager, he approached me and told me, yes, Kevin, you know, I developed arthritis in my early 30s, and now I'm in my late 40s, naisirakana gachini, naskeo chungu apakuhil, nika mama muxi jali, in takpatiya MUFASIL tablets, ilimpelike a, after three weeks, alilini pigisi mutena. Ya, kakwa biya? Aka nembia idawa imenisa idea, ili pain neutral kona skia kwa mugu. Misha. Now, let me tell you the problem with arthritis. Arthritis, you're told, kaisu wa oki, patana na nyama frai, amam tura ma nyama choma, unasiki anga jina kuwita tu, it's really sweet. Arthritis, you're only supposed to take three pieces. Of meat. If you are a patient. Yes. If you are a patient, or if you don't want to contract arthritis, you wachana na nyama kabisa. Agoi nyama kabisa. Are you advising people to be vegetarians? No. I'm not sure about kula. Kula in portions. I asked you about, can you now just list the diseases you can manage, so that somebody viewing may know, because you'll give us your contacts after this, somebody may know if we ask such a disease, then he will look for you. Just in a list. The diseases that we, or rather I, manage, we have arthritis, diabetes, blood pressure, and conditions like crampines. A lot of ladies do complain of crampines. Yes. And also ulcers, those five. And also ulcers. They really help, especially Himalayan salt. Yeah, and weight loss. Yes. And tummy loss. And tummy loss to get your tummy flat. Because those who don't want to lose weight. Yes, they don't want to lose weight. We don't go into the gym or rather doing workouts in the house. I wish you had the whole day here because it's interesting. Our time is up. There are so many people who want, like my social media is bursting with questions, but we don't have time for that. So maybe you just tell people how they can get you. They will get more information from your contacts now. This is your camera. Okay, let me finish by just going to the word of God. Word of God? Yes, just give me some few seconds. In the beginning, in Genesis 1-9 God said, see, I give you every seed bearing plant that is upon all the earth and every tree that has seed bearing fruit. They shall be yours for food. Amen. So those natural things that God created. God created the plants and the earth so that we can use them. And then my socials and my phone number or my business phone number is 0-3-1-81-33-0 0-3-1-81-33-0 My socials are Voke, oh sorry my business social handle on Instagram is bazenga underscore hubs underscore KE on Instagram bazenga hubs on Facebook. You can also check my catalogue on WhatsApp. Thank you so much. This was two in one. Like Voke is an entrepreneur in medicine and also is a medical medical missionary. So this was two in one. If you've not tried natural medicine I think it's your time to try it. There is his contacts. We for one in the morning I think we are coming back to do an outro with Michelle but for now, salutes.