 and 13 council meeting With a clerk call the roll please Bellinger here Warren here Carlson here Decker here Donahue here Hammond here Heidemann here caught here Lissard here Lunduski here Maddachuk here Racelor here Ben Akron here Vanderweal here Versi here and Wongamon here 16 present Quorum is present. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you very much to one report from committee Alderman Hammond Thank You mr. Mayor. I move the reporter committee be accepted and adopted and the Resolution be put upon its passage second movement seconded that the committee report be accepted and adopted and the Resolution be put upon its passage Is there any discussion? Alderman born I'll get things started After a lot of thoughts since the last council meeting and after discussions with you mayor and The chairman of the finance committee and our chief administrative officer I've decided that I'm going to support the proposed budget here tonight and Where I really appreciate what you've done mayor and going over that thing line by line by line I think it does a real good job of taking care of 2013, but I think we the budget that's before us tonight Is more of a long-term budget that also is going to go into 13? I'm sorry 14 and 15 and That's why I'm That's why I'm going to support this budget am I happy with the budget far from it Very frustrated as a matter of fact After talking with chairman Hammond of the finance committee and strategic fiscal planning he assures me that Early in December he's probably going to be calling a meeting of the strategic fiscal planning committee to get a super early start on the 2014 budget and I Have a few ideas to maybe sunset this Garbage fee early, but I'm very much looking forward to those discussions And you know the next council year Maybe my last year on the council will have to see what happens But I'm definitely not going to be a wallflower in 2013 working on that budget for 2014. Thank you Any other discussion? Just a couple things there are going to be some resolutions coming in We weren't able to get them in enough time for tonight But several of them and myself are bringing in something that the council will not be able to in the future Come up with any new fees to patch and put a band-aid patch on budget items The garbage fee as an instance would be one of them that it's already sunset it due to ordinance But we're going to be bringing in a Resolution that doesn't allow us except for a super majority vote to increase or create any new fees That alleviate a couple of things which number one is putting a band-aid on a budget item That's what that is unless we have a super majority vote to say that's what we're going to do We're not going to be able to do that. That's one my main concern on future items That's going to be happening is that band-aid factor on let's throw another fee out there can't raise to actions Let's make a fee this will eliminate that that's one of the things that isn't be coming in soon the other part actually This was brought to me by a couple other people we discussed it was fire department issue Everyone rolls the eyes on that There were a couple items that I looked at real simple very simple math I mean real we're spending $500,000 in a budget to bring in $360,000 do the math on that on your own So pretty simple in my eyes you eliminate one one item that cost us $500,000 you do a couple for early retirements I just did an average salary, which is this is in the low end $87,000 per that person that's $348,000 minus the 360 so we only have a $12,000 hole to get rid of $12,000 That's it they close that budget gap that mr. Mordio said we'd have if you got rid of the ambulance service And that's where that $500,000 budget item comes from these are things to look at Obviously not for this year for future years. These are the real numbers that you have to look at and just in my eyes spending $500,000 to bring in 360 isn't a good business sense So those are two items that are going to be coming up very shortly that will help on future years But obviously not for tonight, but those are just things that need to be said for future that we have a couple of us who worked on Thank you. Thank you all in the university Any other discussion? Any other discussion hearing and seeing none clerk will call the roll Mellanger I Warren hi Carlson. Hi Decker. No Donahue hi Hammond. Hi. Hi to men. Hi Coss. Hi Lissard. Hi Lou and dusky. No Maddachuk. No, bracelet. Hi Van Akron. No van der wheel. Hi, Percy. Hi, and long demand 13 eyes three nose motion carry To adjourn motion to adjourn back it been moving seconded to adjourn All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Chair votes aye