 Tell me about what it was like for you being on the mound after the guys put up a big inning for you early in the game. It means everything Nancy. I mean it just lets you relax on the mound. You don't feel like you have to be perfect or that if you give up a run or two or have a bad inning that you cannot come back from that or that your offense will be in the hole. You know when I pitched on the 98 Yankees it seemed like Nancy every time I went to the mound I had a five run lead and I can't tell you how much confidence that gives you as a pitcher and you know you have to feel for a guy like Jacob de Grom for the Mets who never has that feeling I don't think he knows what that feeling is like but it is a world of difference for a starting pitcher to have run support. Perfect segue he can't buy some run support right now so I want to ask you this as well have you been through a stretch where you were on the mound you felt terrific yet the guys weren't able to score for you. I think every pitcher who's been around a while especially starting pitchers understands that feeling we all go through it you hope that it evens out over the long run it really never does Nancy I mean you have to have a really big sample size to sort of have that sort of thing even out. I was last in the league in run support in 1993 when I pitched with the Royals I signed a big free agent contract tried to justify it got no run support I think I ended up that year 11 and 14 with a record and I just thought I was a failure but in reality as I look back and look at some of the metrics it was one of my best years pitching every game was one to nothing two to one three to two and I kept us in a lot of games and I got 11 way 11 wins out of the last last of the league run support that year so I know what it feels like you feel like a failure but in reality all you can do is the best you can out there you have no control as a pitcher over how much how many runs your offense is going to score on any given night. I'm glad you took a look back and reassessed. Okay today it's Jordan Montgomery on the Hill for the Yankees it's our key keys to the game. What are you expecting from Monty. A very aggressive approach when Monty is attacking the hitters and throwing all of his pitches for strikes that's what makes him better than his whole repertoire. I mean there's not one pitch that he throws that's well above average that you say wow he's got an explosive fastball or wow that curveball is off the table. All of his pitches work together and that's what makes him sort of greater than the sum of all of his parts. So with Montgomery it's really the mix. He knows how to pitch. He has the formula pitching in hard in throwing his cutters into right handed batters and change ups away. I think if there's one pitch you watch from Monty it's this improving change up. He's got more confidence in it. He's throwing it more often and he's had some success with it. So that's the one pitch I think I would key on today. How good is Monty's change up. Always fabulous. Thanks David so much. We will see you for the call with Michael.