 Emil, a quick draw against Ju Wengen today. Were you expecting it to go this way? Are you satisfied with the result? No, I didn't expect it to be a quick draw. It was quite a surprising opening choice by here. I spent around 10 minutes deciding what to do because she played a move order which considered to be just for these reasons that black can take a draw immediately. But otherwise there are some problems for black to equalize. Well, I wasn't expecting it and facing it over the board I took some time but after all I played the strongest objective move and it was a draw. Right, because if you try to avoid the repetition at that point it can get you into a little bit of a trouble? Yes, this move actually is quite tricky. It was first played by Aronia against myself and then it was not that I was avoiding the draw against Aronia I just didn't find it and I lost that game and since then the improvement has been shown and it was all known but I didn't expect actually even after my move Bd7 white can deviate and play on but she immediately forced the draw and that was... I wouldn't say that I'm very happy about that but given to the situation I was black and she's a very decent player. But you were looking forward to a game? Yes, of course I was looking forward to a game. I mean, there shouldn't be other reason. I also played the decent game yesterday beating Vityugov so I was rather high on my moves but okay, that happens, that's all right. Right, well you get an early rest now. Emil, of course, you know there is a lot of criticism towards draws in chess in general because of which we've got the 30 move rule now. Repetition is something that cannot be avoided in many circumstances but the audience and the spectators watching it feel a little disappointed because they don't get the action they were hoping for. So how would you explain it to them? Well, I understand it's disappointing. It just happens. In round robin tournament it's more of a problem than here. Here you have like 40 games or 50 games broadcast so okay, it is board number one and it is a sort of disappointment. But we should not forget that in under circumstances after all it's a competition and sometimes you have to build your strategy. It's like calling some boring player if he gets his point by being greener and not on the counter. So it's his playing style. So here it's also a sportive situation and sometimes dictates you what you do and I would not criticize you for picking this line and I I'd ask not to criticize myself for not avoiding it and going into a worse position but taking a draw. I mean that can happen. If you follow my games it doesn't happen too often in my games. We have no reason to complain for both of you because both of you have been showing very enterprising chess in the first five rounds of the festival. Now tonight is a very, very special night here in the Battle of the Sexes and that's something that you have witnessed several times here as well. Is that something that you look forward to? Yeah, it is special. I used to take part in the games themselves but this year I would not but we do prepare some surprises together with Elizabeth Petz and that surprised my please the audience quite a bit I guess. Now who are you rooting for in the Battle of the Sexes? Well, I look at it as a show so I just don't really root for anyone but it's always fun. It's a great fun and I remember it was a bit surprising here to go when ladies won the match or a couple of games at least and I think it was where it is in battle and at some point I felt even it's a bit more than just a show it took to start taking it seriously. Some boys were playing some moves some random moves but girls took it very, very seriously and did win. So I expected to be close fight and most of all I expected to be a lot of fun. Right, it is in fact going to be a whole lot of fun now you are a regular at the Trade by Gibraltar Chess Festival and this whole social side of the festival is a very big part of it and you always make an effort to be wherever, everywhere that you can and do you enjoy that part the social part of a chess tournament as well? I think that's what's so great about the tournament and in general I think chess players do have some duty to contribute to this general atmosphere in various games, masterclasses or this socializing I think the top players and especially the star players like here have to contribute a bit to see a bit less immortals to be joined by and to see that we are really one family and not just a motor by fate so we are against when we assume us after all and chess is what unites us and also we can have a lot of fun together not only fighting over the board but just having a pleasure, sharing this pleasure Very well said and we are very much looking forward to the surprise that you have in store for us so the audience can tune into our live broadcast of the Battle of the Sexes tonight and see what you've got up to your sleeve Thank you very much