 My main message was that ICTs bring a lot of benefits to communities and societies but from a UNODC's perspective there are also dangers that are related to cybercrime and cybersecurity and for UNODC we help governments to build their capacities to fight cybercrime and in so far as cybersecurity is concerned we cooperate with ITU because ITU responsible for capacity-building activities in the cybersecurity area for example online child abuse we have an arrangement with ITU to build capacity jointly with governments on addressing online child abuse. I cannot really talk about programs as such but for instance when I was in Geneva at the beginning of the week I had a talk with the ITU colleague Carla who is responsible for online child protection and what she emphasized is that she wants to collaborate she is part of ITU wants to collaborate with us in UNODC on legislation so I'm not talking about programs as such but we will do needs assessment in the developing countries and see how we can help these countries have legislation that penalizes child online abuse effectively and in that from an ITU perspective it's not just the penalization but to safeguard the security of children when they are using computers for instance when they are on the internet. As I said in my speech in a few years time it probably would be inconceivable to think of any crime that has no link to internet. To name just a few example wire transfers that are done people use the internet be it for money laundering money laundering that involves proceeds of crime proceeds of drug trafficking so we are training the police law enforcement officers the prosecutors and and the judges also on how to investigate prosecute and adjudicate cases that are related to cybercrime because these authorities they know how to investigate crimes in a general sense in the traditional sense but when it comes to online crimes cybercrime a lot of people are intimidated a little bit because we think technology but it is really transferring the traditional way of doing things by using ICTs and we are helping governments in that regard. It is actually at the core of our capacity building activities. The drug control convention starting with the 88th convention which is a UN convention against illicit trafficking in narcotics and psychotropic substances to the UN convention against transnational organized crime the UN convention against corruption and the so-called global instruments against terrorism at the core of them is international cooperation because only when governments cooperate to tackle crime together can they be effective. To give you an example with drug trafficking offenses if you have weak penalties in country A the drug traffickers will move to country B and operate from there and and so you think you have tackled drug trafficking problem in your country but you haven't because you are acting alone.