 Yes or did you hear me? I mean are you there Aasha? Otherwise someone else can do it. I think she's probably not at her desk at the moment. Could we have Avni pray? Could you please pray? Sure ma'am. Good morning. Good morning. Father God we are so very thankful to you for this beautiful day that has come into our life. We will rejoice and be glad in it our Father and thank you for this platform. Thank you for this time of learning about Father enriching us. Father as we are being taught Father we ask you to bless our pastor. We ask you to bless all the all the students who are joining in who would be hearing this later also about Father. We pray for your nothing to flow your presence to be with us Father your wisdom to be our portion today about Father. So whatever we learn may we be able to live by it apply it and bless others through it about Father. Let it grow in us like a seed. We give you glory honor and praise for everything that you're doing in and through our lives and thank you once again Father for this time of learning. We give you glory honor and praise and ask this prayer in the precious and matchless name of Jesus our Lord and Savior. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much. Okay we have finished 15 chapters so today we are we will hopefully cover chapters 16 and 17. We have now come into the final section where Jesus has now started giving a final set of teachings to his disciples because he knows that the R has come the R which has he has been anticipating right from the beginning you know the hour of the crucifixion when he will finally accomplish the work for which he has come into this world. So now we are into John 16 in the previous chapter he talked about how he is the wine and if we abide in him we will be like branches that are attached to him so his life will flow into us and we will be able to bear fruit and then he wants that there would be a lot of opposition because the world will hate them he wants his disciples in the same way they have hated me they will hate you as well and then he says I know I will send an helper a paracletos and he will be there for you. So in John chapter 16 it begins with these words if we could have someone read out the first three verses please. I have said all these things to you to keep your friend falling away they'll put you out of this sin and God indeed the hour is coming whoever kills you will take his offering sacrifice services to God and they will do these things because they have not known the Father nor me. So Jesus I mean in this chapter I mean of course you know it's like division of chapters that was done later because in the original it would have been just one continual narrative so in verse one it says all this I have told you so that you will not fall away so all all what you know whatever was mentioned in the earlier chapter how they are part of him as long as they are in him they will be able to bear fruit but this doesn't mean that everything will go well for them the world will hate them because they do not belong to the world they belong to the Father and the world hates the Father so they will obviously hate the disciples but Jesus assures them that there will be an advocate that he would be sending he will testify about Jesus and lead them into all truth so these are all the things which Jesus shares and he says all this I have told you so that you will not fall away and he wants and says they will put you out of the synagogue in fact the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God and this is what we actually see happening in the lives of the disciples later because the Jewish leaders they you know take steps against them to to beat them whip them to excommunicate some of them to even you know kill many of the followers so we see all of this happening so these things are all written written down recorded by John because his audience is undergoing that kind of a persecution they are facing a lot of opposition from the leaders the leaders who are considered as custodians of the word of God the leaders who are supposed to be knowledgeable about all spiritual matters they are the very people who are pointing fingers at this small group and saying you are you know traitors to the faith you are following something which is wrong and so a chance is there that these poor you know believers may start wondering you know have we made a mistake after all what do we know it's these religious leaders who have all the information in their hands they are the ones who have studied the scrolls they are the ones who know what is there in the Old Testament so maybe we are mistaken maybe we are holding on to a faith and getting persecuted you know for something which is not really correct and so all our effort is in vain so they would have probably get these doubts and so Jesus says I'm telling you about this now itself because you know so that you will not fall away and he says this advocate this paracletos the one who is who is going to be by your side he will testify about me he will remind you of the things which I have taught so do not think that you are in the wrong what you are believing is correct so hold on to the truth because this is the truth which I have revealed to you so you know never doubt never think that even when these powerful leaders are saying that you're wrong do not doubt it they are going to be so confident in their blindness that they that when they kill you they will think that they are doing something good because they have chosen to be blinded they did not want to see the truth the truth was too uncomfortable for them the truth would cost them their positions of power and influence so because of that they chose to be blind if it is easier for them to just blind themselves to the truth so now they have hardened their hearts and blinded themselves to such an extent that they in fact feel good when they persecute people who are speaking the truth so the Lord says a day will come when they will when they will actually think that they are doing God's service when they kill you but do not be swayed by all of that because the Holy Spirit who is in you will remind you of the truth and he will assure you that what you believe is the truth and that what the leaders are saying in fact is wrong so he will guide you he will be there to back up what you believe in so do not be swayed do not fall away is what Jesus is trying to convey in these verses why do the people hate the Father mainly because you know Jesus comes to them and he says I am from the Father and he begins begins to teach things which are very painful to their flesh for the leaders he is telling them you know you need to believe in me and in their eyes they see him as a carpenter's son someone who doesn't have any social status and so they believe that this version of the Father that Jesus is preaching is all wrong they hate what Jesus is telling them about the Father also Jesus is not just very gentle and quiet about their you know faults very openly he says you are hypocrites very openly he says I know you're very very faithful in your tithing but look at the way you treat your family look at the way you're treating your elderly parents you know he's very open very blunt exposing all their wrong and also there are Old Testament practices to which he is now adding new meaning and they had always practiced fasting and now Jesus is saying you know fasting has to be done in a particular context because otherwise it's just an empirical and they don't like it they've always liked the status quo because you know they are the ones who have established that set of rules and running the synagogue and running the temple in a certain way and all of this by by holding on to the status quo and by running things in a certain way they are able to hold on to their power so they do not like it that Jesus is saying that this is what the Father is saying that you are wrong that there's another way to do things and I have come in accordance with what the Prophet's prophesied so the Father had has already sent prophets who are pointing towards me so I am the way I am the truth what I'm saying is true and they don't like this version of the Father at all in their minds they have this other idea of what Yahweh is like and they would they would rather hold on to that they do not like the picture that Jesus is presenting of the Father a very different Father from the kind that they had in mind so they do not like their position shaken and so they dislike the Father due to their own selfish ambitions and desires and also they do not like him pointing out their mistakes and their defects so openly so that's probably why they hate him so much yeah we were looking at yes how these people would the leaders would rise up against the true believers so the audience would have felt encouraged after reading this because you know they would be probably be in small groups here and there and they would be probably even be excommunicated and so they are probably feeling very lonely and alone and they are wondering whether they are making all of these sacrifices for nothing what if the leaders are correct and so here these verses are assuring them no listen to the voice of the Paracletus inside you the one who has come to stand next to you he is reminding you of things that I taught he's testifying about what I have said so hold on to that truth and do not be swayed so these words would have encouraged them and we see this even later you know much later through the centuries when when you know people of God were persecuted during different eras I mean I was looking at one one commentary where it was talking about an archbishop named Cranmer and Cranmer you know once the bible got translated into English and then it was printed so this this person being the archbishop being in a very powerful position where he can do something for the people he began to distribute the English Bible everywhere because he wanted everyone to start reading it and discover the truths in it and you know become strong in God so with that noble you know intent he begins to distribute the English Bible to all the churches which are there you know in all the parishes and even as he's doing that the queen who is who is on the throne at that time is a Catholic Mary the first and she is against the distribution of Bibles because she doesn't want you know protestantism you know the people who are believing in the Bible and following the Bible she is against that and so she decides to begin to persecute him so it's rather interesting she is one very powerful representative of the Catholic Church at that time and it's very very clear that she does not want the Bible distributed openly to everyone she does not want people to start opening their Bibles and discovering what it says over there because then they will know what is true and what is false because at that time the Catholic Church was using its position and power you know to exploit the people and keep them under control and take get money from them because you can purchase your way to heaven by giving money so the church was getting rich everything was going well for them so we see a lot of parallels between the Pharisees of Jesus time and these people who are you know sometime in the middle ages so there is we see the same trend you know always the opposition to the father the hatred towards the things of the father it is always to cushion their own positions to make sure that the status quo stays and people do not get to know the truth so there's always a desire to hide the truth to kind of you know dismiss as something false so that people will not discover that it is indeed correct so in this particular case Mary the first she decides to have this Archbishop grandma she has him burnt so he's literally tied over there to a pole and they set fire to the person when he's still very much alive and he begins to burn and while he's being burnt they you know they have a passionate sermon being preached I mean it's such a horrible thing a person is literally dying over there probably screaming in pain and they have a sermon being preached because they believe that what they are doing is such a good and noble thing so you see you can allow yourself to be blinded to such an extent where you are tormenting a person and putting them to death in such a terrible manner and you think that you're doing so something so noble that you actually stand over there and proudly preach while that you know while the torture is being done so this is just one shocking instance of how wrong can be promoted by leaders in power because now they have become that blind to the truth and yes we had a person raising their hand yes please go ahead yes pastor thank you pastor sorry to interrupt you I just want to take you back to when you mentioned we're talking about the viewpoint of how the spiritual leaders or would I say the Pharisees the idea of you said father but I was going to ask that did they even see God as father that's another question at that time to me when I see read through scripture is like they just dealt with God as someone who could not relate I don't know and so Jesus now bringing a perception of relationship was just way beyond their thinking and they didn't want to have such perception again like you mentioned in order for them to keep their influence so I just got I just wanted to confirm that in your own view of scriptures did they really view God as father I think it was only Jesus that could actually reveal that and that was what they stood against when Jesus Christ brought such perception perception thank you pastor yeah I yes it is true that they didn't really have a very personal concept of God as a very personal father but you know to an extent they did see themselves as the children of Yahweh you know so if we were to look at I mean I was just I was just kind of thinking of you know Solomon when he dedicates the temple and how he addresses God so I'm just trying to look for the worst because I had not really thought about this earlier you know okay just let's just take one random verse from the dedication passage you know second chronicles chapter 6 verse 24 because my eyes just fell on that second chronicles chapter 6 verse 24 where you know Solomon is making his prayer of dedication and he says when your people Israel having sinned against you are defeated by an enemy and then in verse 25 he goes on to say may you hear from heaven and forgive the sin of your people Israel so in a sense they consider themselves the people of God and so in that sense children of God because they are descendants of Abraham so there is a kind of personal relationship involved so to an extent they do think of God as father but Jesus takes it to the next level when he begins to use that Aramaic word Abba now that is not a formal word it would be a very personal word the kind that a kid would probably use when addressing his daddy so they would never go to that extent of you know regarding Yahweh as daddy because that would they would feel that that makes it too informal and maybe not honorable enough so yes they did not have Jesus level of you know concept of personal father someone that you can actually go to and say Abba too so but to an extent they always saw themselves as Yahweh's people and so his children in that sense yeah I hope that helps yeah thank you pastor thank you yes okay let's look at verses five six and seven if someone could read out please ask me where are you going that because I've said this things to you sorrow has filled your heart never was actually the truth but it's to your advantage that I go away or if I do not go away don't help me when I come to you but if I go I will send it to you yes so in verse seven Jesus says very truly I tell you it is for your good that I am going away and you know you know you must have read this in many places wherever it says truly truly I say to you or very truly I say to you it's like you know Jesus is adding emphasis if he had a bold font you know back in those days and you had no written print he would have actually put it in bold font or he might have put it in red coloring so the idea is to emphasize what he's about to say so he's he's saying very truly I tell you which automatically means everything that I'm going to say next is going to be like in bold capital font and I know I want you to want it to catch your attention he says it is for your good that I am going away so it is for our benefit that Jesus works God works all things you know we read that in Romans chapter 8 where it says that in all things God works for our good so we see that same thing over here just to dwell on that thought for a little bit if we could actually you know go to Romans 8 verses 28 and 29 and if someone could just read out Romans 8 28 and 29 Romans 8 28 and 29 says and we know that for those who love God all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose for those whom he for new he also predestined to be confirmed to the image of his son in order that he might be the first born among many brothers okay so we can have the assurance that even when something painful is happening and we don't really understand why God has allowed that set of circumstances one thing we can be sure of in those unpleasant circumstances also God is working for our good because it says we know you know it's like a very confident knowing Paul is making a statement and he's saying he's not saying I guess rather he's saying we know that in all things okay in all things God works for the good of those who love him because there's a purpose there's a plan he has already predestined them to be confirmed to the image of his son and his he has a purpose for their lives so it's all in place so to lead them to that goal so that they will fulfill those purposes for which they have been created he's going to start putting everything into place even this you know negative things which take place even in in or even in all of those negative things he will work for the good of his people now this does not mean that he wanted them to face all of those unfortunate you know events he allows it because he knows that he can give them the strength to overcome it and he knows that even as they go through that they will become stronger and their faith will grow and they will be able to fight greater battles against Satan and when so he allows it okay so but it does not mean that he likes it that he enjoys giving pain to his people it is not saying that over here it is saying that when those terrible things happen and he allows them to happen because he knows that he will give us the strength to go through with it in those terrible circumstances which he does not like in those circumstances he will continue working for our good now there are some situations where we make a mistake either we have sinned or we have just taken a wrong decision because we did not bother to pray and seek God's guidance and we end up in bad circumstances what about those does God work for our good in those circumstances where I made the mistake you know where I took a wrong decision or in fact I was living in sin because of which I'm suffering these consequences even in those cases God works for our good simply because he has predestined us to be confirmed to the image of his son and therefore if we go to him in repentance he will redeem us he will restore us from those situations and circumstances in his own time in his own way so even when we make a mistake we can still have the hope that if we go to him in true repentance he will redeem and restore so that the plan that he has for our lives will not completely be cut off but you know it can continue so we can always have hope that no matter how painful or unpleasant the circumstances are that we find ourselves in the Lord is at work for our good and so that is why here Jesus says very truly I tell you it is for your good that I am going away and then he goes on to explain why it would be good for them we'll get to that later but over here we have you know Rupa who was posted Isaiah 63 16 I shall remember this for future reference thank you so much so it's it's it's excellent it says but you are our father though Abraham does not know you know all the rest of it so again you have the phrase in the lower part of the verse Lord our our father our redeemer from of old is your name so yes they did have a sense of God being their father but of course not in that very personal sense where you can go and say papa or daddy or something like a little child that they probably would have thought is too personal and not something that human beings can actually have you know that kind of a privilege so they were not aware of that but yes they did have some understanding of the father yes coming back to what we were talking about here yes why is it good for him to go away Jesus says the reason that I need to go away is unless I go away the advocate will not come to you but if I go I will send him to you so when the Holy Spirit comes he would be in the believer so which means the believer has access to the Lord 24 7 you know when Jesus was in his physical body Jesus was had allowed himself to be restricted by human you know parameters so he would also need to sleep he would also need to take rest he would go away to another place and then the disciples would no longer be with him you know because they would be in a different spot so there's no continued 24 7 contact with Jesus while he was in his physical body so it's in fact better that he goes away because when he when he sends his spirit to them and the advocate comes then then believers will have 24 7 access to the Lord so in fact it is a good thing it is a better thing also we see that it was necessary for Jesus to first do his work of atonement on the cross because a sinful person cannot have a relationship with the spirit of God so first of all their sins had to be cleansed someone had to die on the cross and pay for them and once they are cleansed only then the Holy Spirit can come and take his residence in their lives and you know they can have this personal relationship with him so that is why he explains and he says if I don't go away I cannot send the helper so it's only after the work on the cross is finished once the atonement is completed only then will the Holy Spirit be able to come and reside inside the person who has now been made righteous in Jesus Christ otherwise there would be no fellowship with the spirit nobody can be can have the Holy Spirit living in them unless they have been made righteous and made clean through the work of Jesus Christ on the cross so he says I will go away and then when I go away then I will be able to send you the advocate and another thing which I noticed in your textbook in fact you know is the point they make over there about how Jesus was with them for three years and at the end of all the instruction that they received all the training that they received what were they like you know in your textbook it says that after all the ministry which Jesus did they were still confused thick-headed afraid selfish self-centered these are some of the terms which I used you know in your textbook but then when Jesus goes away and then the Holy Spirit comes and starts you know living in them then what are they like they turn into wise surrendered bold and giving people who go around sharing the gospel and power and performing science and wonders so the limitation was that Jesus could not do an internal work of transformation that's something that the Holy Spirit does so as long as he was a physical person only from the outside he could talk he would he could influence he could set an example for them to follow so all this is an external work of the Lord but you also need an internal work of the Spirit so as Jesus was ministering on the outside the Holy Spirit would work inside people's hearts and and help them to believe what Jesus is saying and all of that but once they become believers then literally the Holy Spirit lives inside them and there's an internal work of transformation that goes on 24 7 depending on how nicely you are walking in step with the Spirit Galatians chapter 5 makes that clear if you're not walking in step with the Spirit you know you're limiting him but if you're walking in step with the Spirit every day and you're sensitive to his guidance to his correction and all of that then you will see that there's an there's an internal work of transformation that's going on 24 7 inside our hearts so it is better for Jesus to go away so that the Holy Spirit can come and literally reside inside a person because then they can be transformed to a much greater extent so we see that this was beneficial for the believers for the for the disciples that Jesus that Jesus should go away physically yeah if maybe we could have one person read out verses 8 to 11 yes please 16 and when he comes he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment concerning sin because they do not believe in me concerning righteousness because i go to the father and you will see me no longer concerning judgment because the ruler of this world is judged yes so here the word that is used he will prove the world to be in the wrong or in the word convict he will convict the world so the word over there the Greek word that is used over there is to it's not just to convince someone but to convince them with solid proof with compelling proof so god will give compelling proof of why they are wrong and deserve judgment okay so he will be able to convict people and show them that they are that they very much need a savior that they are really in the wrong and judgment will come upon them if they do not submit so he will provide compelling proof and convict them in that powerful sense so what are the three things that he convicts them of first they will be made to realize that if they reject Jesus about sin because people do not believe in me so anyone who rejects what Jesus is saying and refuses to believe it they will remain in their sin the second thing convict them about righteousness because i'm going to the father so they will be convicted and they will have be given this assurance that once Jesus goes to the father uh he will intercede for them and they will be made righteous so there is a solution they don't have to be they don't have to be stuck in their sin if they believe in him he will go to the father and because he goes to the father they will be made righteous and the third thing that he will convict them of is that if they refuse to do this then all that remains for them is judgment the prince of this world has been judged and in the same way they too will be judged along with the prince of the world if they choose not to believe in Jesus and take sides with him uh so these are things that the Holy Spirit will convict a person of if they are willing and open to hear from him on the other hand when they start hearing from him if they immediately harden their hearts because they don't want to get rid of the status go they enjoying the comfort of it too much then the Holy Spirit will just bide his time you know he may given another few opportunities where again and again he will give them chance to repent if they still don't then you know that the judgment is all that awaits them so this is the work of conviction which the Holy Spirit will do where he will provide evidence and proof to them in their heart to help them believe what is being presented versus 12 to 15 if we could have someone read out I still have many things to say to you but you cannot bury them down when the spirit of truth comes he will guide you into all the truth for he will not speak on his own authority but wherever he hears he will speak and he will declare to you the things that are required he will glorify me for he will take what is mine and declare it to you all that the Father has is mine therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you yes so in verse 12 Jesus says I have much more to say to you more than you can now bear so right now Jesus is not inside their heart so the Holy Spirit is not taking permanent residence inside them so there are certain things which they still will not be able to really understand not be able to really fully grasp so Jesus says there are many more things to be said but they cannot be said now when the Holy Spirit comes to live in you then he will make all of these things very very clear so in a way Jesus is paving the way for the other books of the New Testament which will come along you know after the gospels are written so because there are people who say the sayings of Jesus you know wherever Jesus says Jesus said so and so I will believe those things but what the humans have written what Paul wrote and Peter wrote how can I believe that because those are things which the which humans have written is the argument they present but here Jesus says you know I have not finished telling everything that needs to be said so that you can grow in faith there are many many more things to be said and they will be revealed through the Holy Spirit so which is why later the Holy Spirit inspired people like Paul and Peter and James so that they were able to give a more elaborate explanation of things that Jesus had just very briefly touched upon so we must honor and believe whatever Jesus directly spoke but we also give the same importance to whatever was written by Paul and Peter and James and the others simply because they were acting under the influence of Jesus spirit whom Jesus had sent personally to explain to them in greater detail so we must accept all of the New Testament as the word of God and we see again it's in your textbook where it talks about it kind of draws a comparison between Jesus and the Holy Spirit and in fact the disciples in John 15 15 yeah maybe if someone could read out John 15 15 and then you know the comparison becomes a little clearer John 15 15 so Jesus when he is on the earth as a human being he allows himself to be taught by the father so all the things which he receives from the father which he learns from the father that he passes on to the disciples he reveals it to them he presents it to them so Jesus receives and Jesus passes it on to his people in the same way now over here in this passage we see the Holy Spirit receiving something from Jesus and passing it on to the people because that's what we see right in verse 13 where it says he will speak only what he hears so whatever he hears from Jesus that he will pass on to the disciples again it says in verse 14 he will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive and yeah and then it says in verse 15 spirit will receive from me and he will make known to you so what he has received from Jesus he will now reveal to the disciples so we see Jesus receiving from the father and revealing it to the disciples the Holy Spirit receives from Jesus and reveals it to the disciples and the disciples who have now received from the father and from the Holy Spirit and from Jesus now they are supposed to witness and pass it on to other people so it's never just the receiving the receiving is always to be followed by a passing it on to others revealing it to others so that they too can know can know these truths it is never meant to be knowledge that just stored away in the mind and you do nothing about it no it is always any spiritual knowledge from the Bible you know it is always meant not just to be received but then to be applied and passed on to others so that they also can benefit from what has been taught so that's one learning that we get from this particular passage and then moving on to six if you could have someone read out verses 16 to 18 please a little while and you will see me no longer and again a little while and you will see me so some of his disciples said to one another what is this that he says to us a little while and you will not see me and again a little while and you will see me and because I'm going to the father so they were saying what does he mean by a little while we do not know what he is talking about so I mean we have much clarity about what Jesus was saying because this is explained more fully to us you know in the epistels but at that point of time the epistels had not yet been written so the disciples are not still very very clear about what Jesus is saying so the main concern is okay lord you're saying that you're going to go away and we cannot come you know to where you are and we can't follow you over there you're saying that later on you will come and you will take us with you to your home so that's fine but now this thing that you're talking about you know going away for a little while how long is that time period because they have given up everything in life to be with him and he's talking about going away and he's saying that they cannot go to where he is right now so they are asking what do you mean by this little while exactly how short is this little while you know you can see their concern so it's a discussion that's going on among them because it says in verse 18 they kept asking so this is some and in verse 17 it says they said to one another so there's a lot of worrying going on because their master whom they have fully trusted and whom they have followed is now talking about going away and he's talking about some paracletals you know who's going to come and be with them but that just still sounds like a foreign entity they it's not something that they have fully understood and they are so anxious that their master is going so there's the so this must have been a real topic of conversation and they know they kept talking among themselves and and wondering how long will it be will it be for a very long time did he mean years or did he mean months and they're rather concerned about this but that wording in the little while which Jesus uses the Greek word used over there is something called micron it means a short duration of time but it also means something very insignificant so it's like Jesus is saying you know you are going to feel that kind of a sense of loss when I go away but it's going to be so insignificant because what's going to come next will be so amazing that you will not even think about the short you know gap time gap when I was not there and which is so true right because later when the Holy Spirit comes into them they are filled with joy they are filled with boldness and they experience Jesus in a much greater way once the Holy Spirit has come so here Jesus is saying you know in a very in for a very insignificant amount of time I'll be going away but don't worry it will not even make a difference because very very soon after that you will have the advocate with you you will have the helper with you and then it will not even matter to you that we had this brief time of parting okay it's what Jesus says moving on to verses 19 to 22 if someone could read out please Jesus knew what they wanted to ask him so he said to them is this what you're asking yourself why am I saying a little while and you will not see me again a little while and you will see me truly truly I say to you you will live for minutes but the world will rejoice you'll be sorrowful but you're sorrowful during the joy 21 when a woman is giving birth she has sorrow because her door has come in but when she has delivered the baby she no longer remembers the anguish but joy that a human being has been born into the world 22 so also you have sorrow how so so you have sorrow now but I will see you again and your heart will rejoice no take your joy from you okay so over here the the imagery of a woman giving birth to a child is used in a positive sense I've just noticed that generally in the Old Testament wherever this imagery is used it tends to be used in a very negative way because the emphasis over there is on the pain the the sheer struggle and so it's kind of used in a sense of judgment you know where God says you know you'll be in pains of like like a like a woman in labor because you know God's judgment is coming upon you and you'll be filled with horror and all of that so the emphasis seems to be more on the pain and the struggle in the Old Testament but here in the New Testament where this imagery is used it's used in a very positive sense it's talking about a new life being born so yes there is a struggle but that struggle is followed by something very beautiful a life which is so amazing that you even forget the struggle so more than the Old Testament scriptures maybe we should look at a New Testament scripture you know which will help us to understand what is being said so that would be Romans chapter 8 verses 22 to 23 well okay we are kind of out of time right so maybe we can read Romans 8 22 to 23 when we come back from our from our break so let's get back together at 10 o'clock thank you