 Call to order the August 10, 2015 meeting of the Arlington Redevelopment Board being recorded by ACMI. First on our agenda this evening is our input to the Board of Selectments regarding a response to mass housing as far as the Oak Tree Bureau proposal. The letter that's been prepared to go to the Board of Selectments had their meeting on August 12 to start with you, Bruce, and see whether you've had any comments here. So I've quickly scanned through the red line that Andrew has prepared and they look like good edits. I think they make a lot of sense. I haven't had a chance yet to read through what we just received, which is the redrafting of Section 8, I guess, of the letter. So I'll read that while other people mention. I also distributed a little bit of, I don't know if it's preamble or if it can find a home someplace else in the letter, if the Board sees fit. I wanted to give a little bit of historical overview of the site because I think it's important to understand what L.Y. floodplain once was. And to show how impacted it's been over the last, not really during the industrial phase of our history and how much of a wetlands area has been reduced. Since I think that really speaks to the issue about the area for flood control. It's also a habitat area. And I also wove in, although it's already in the letter, a little bit more comment about combined sewer overflows and Cambridge, which handle runoff in periods of high rainfall, which unfortunately combines rainwater runoff and the single pipe with sewage and wastewater, which would flow into L.Y. broken further impact the area. So if the Board feels that that's relevant, it could find a home in the letter. But I think otherwise it's a very good letter. I did have one sort of fact checking thing I wanted to ask about, and that is in item section 5, the last sentence where it says the Arlington Housing Authority owns 716 buildings. That's the one. I think it should be units. Is that units? Well, I don't know. It seems like a large number of buildings, so I just wanted to make sure that we're correct on that. I'll have to check. I'm excited to see units. It's standing up for, yeah. I got a feeling it's units simply because also if you look at the total number of affordable units, it's about eight. We're up to about 1121. I thought it was subsidized affordable. It was like 800 and something. I think we were trying to say number of units in X number of buildings. So we'll correct that. I saw the exact same. There are some minor little wordsmithing clerical things on the summary of Arlington's affordable housing accomplishments. And just in the first paragraph about the fifth line down, which begins unexperienced housing or would be experienced housing professional if you're in this position. And that's in the first paragraph? First paragraph about the fifth line. Nice. Thank you. And then to increase the effectiveness of the CDC. And I didn't know if we had previously defined that term. We're noticing that too. That's one of my pet peeves. When there's an acronym and it hasn't been explained. Well, yeah, I try to keep up with all those acronyms, but those are the Center for Disease Control. Ten strong record? That's also on affordable housing accomplishments. That's under... Item three. Are you under item three? So, no, it's in this one that has the heading, Arlington's affordable housing accomplishments. Oh, the accomplishments. It's an appendix or an addendum to the letter. Oh, yes, yes, the very end. It should say community development cooperation. Yeah. And my last comment on that was, I think, you know, when we talk about inclusionary zoning, it might be helpful to mention that the town's inclusionary zoning bylaw follows the same criteria or an approved criteria of the Commonwealth's Department of Housing and Development, THCD, Department of Housing and Community Development. So in other words, the portion of median income for qualifying renters and what their rents would be. I don't think it's critical, but it might be helpful just to point out that our inclusionary zoning bylaw is accomplishing the same type of goals that Fort V is designed to help meet. And I think that's just in my comments of Paul quickly read and his rewrite section eight. Yeah, no, I thought the edits looked good. And the one I was scanning for was the 716 buildings, so I had the exact same notion on that. The inclusionary zoning, the one sentence in 2001 town meeting adopted inclusionary zoning. That was a two-step process, wasn't it? Wasn't it that I know the development on Mill Street and Mass Ave did something that we had done in inclusionary zoning bylaw. And then I thought we tweaked it after that to make sure. There was an adjustment to it after that. I wonder whether that adjustment makes us look a little bit better as well because... So your point would be if it was another policy step that the community took. Exactly, to make sure that development included affordability. I'll look into that. But I'm pretty sure, because I remember from... It would have been the year following that development, right? Yeah, yeah, whenever that development was. In fact, I wonder whether... Because that development may have been after 2001. I wonder whether it wasn't a six or more units at that point, whether it went down to... It may have been 10. They divided the 12 units into six each. Sims has the inclusionary zoning. Oh yeah, yeah. Does that include it in the 53? That's something kind of like... How many units are there? I mean, this town might. Town might. 300. Yeah, that's probably right. Total for the town. Yeah, because 15... No, we get in Sims. 20... 20... 20 minutes. So 15% of the 25... It's a total count of the Sims. 174. So we got like 20, yeah. Yeah, we got more. I think that's a little more than 20. 25. 25, yeah. 25 and then Brigham's was another... 19. Something like that. Yeah, that would be 11 plus... I don't know, maybe. Another five. Yeah, so between the two of those, it's 40. I would say 40-ish. Yeah. Just back from the envelope. 15 everywhere else? Probably. It's probably about right. Yeah, we'll check it in 264. Yeah, directionally right, though. So that's the one thing I just checked. Because it seems to... I just remember that everyone at town meeting was fairly outraged, that the developer kind of slipped one by, I think is how everyone thought of it then, because they split... That's actually two condo associations, as far as I know, in that middle street, Mass Ave. Because to avoid the inclusionary zoning, they split the... Cutter in place? No. No, the one at the... On Mass Ave. On Mass Ave. The... Oh, oh, oh. The big town homes. The more, like, beacon-hullish types. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that after that, we took another run at it to make sure that it stuck. So I guess I'd look at that as kind of more of our desire to get affordability in our developments. Just in reading this quickly, I think you just need a projected 2B at the very end. 2B-1800. No, it's on the emailed portion here. Carol. Oh, yeah, 2B-1800. Or not 2B. Oh, not exactly 2B or not 2B, exactly. But those were my comments. I got this a little bit good, so thank you. Okay. Andy. So just from my education, the comprehensive permit law, is that the same as what it did? Yes. If that's not clear, we should... I mean, I think it'll be clear. To everybody else, for me, it was clear, but I didn't know that it was also called the comprehensive permit law, so if that's the right terminology, that's great. Just that sentence that begins all though right at the beginning, you might want to consider just making it two sentences. So Arlington developed densely prior to the adoption of the 4B stuff. And as a result, less than 10% of this housing is subsidized, if that's a correct statement. Period. However, the IR believes the town will demonstrate that 1.5% of the town's land is used for subsidizing affordable housing. Good. And the item one, I would just to avoid the apostrophe S after planning, just say the policies of the Commonwealth's own Department of Conservation, Recreation, Planning, identify that just together with the second policies. See what I mean? The policies of the Commonwealth's own Department of Conservation, Recreation, Planning, Identify. Okay, either way you want to do it, I think it's just better to... Policies, Identify. Either way. That's a minor one. Okay. That's a minor one. Policies, Identify. Either way. That's a minor one. I'd like to use one. Put it up front. What I'm saying is put policies of the Commonwealth's own instead of putting it down here, but that's up to you. That's a good word for it. Should we strike planning? I don't know if that's part of the title, Department of Conservation and Recreation Planning. No. No. So you're supposed to be planning policies. Planning policies. I think you would... I agree with Andy. I mean, I think it's stronger if you say the planning policies. Yeah, sorry. Or the planning policies. The planning policies of the Commonwealth's own Department of Conservation, Recreation, Identify. Identify the meeting. It just... That definitely hits it home better. Yeah. Good. And then the second... The A of that same one. Part of the model is almost entirely a... The Department of Conservation and Recreation ranks the Mugar land as among the highest priority parcels for protection. That's the only... The only other one I have is... I think it's probably okay with on item five. It works its way down. And then it says the Arlington Housing Authority owns seven years ago. Arlington has multi-family... Also has multi-family... So it's kind of making a case. Is there a therefore in there? No. No, it's maybe just a major house. It's got to be a better way of handling this. What this is trying to do is point out that there are a lot of municipalities that actually don't allow apartments. Mm-hmm. That don't allow multi-family housing. It seems kind of no brainer to us. Okay. So the town zone allows, and the town has permitted major housing developments. Okay. So what you're trying to say is... I get it. In addition to the housing corporation stuff... There's the third most dense or fourth most dense. Okay. I'm not sure where we are. We're in top ten. Yeah, we're in top ten. Yeah, Arlington also has multi-family zoning districts. Maybe that could say in addition, the Arlington Housing Authority owns 716 units or whatever that's going to turn out to be factually. See, this is big because you're trying to establish that there are additional housing stock that other towns may not have. Right? Mm-hmm. So, yeah, and maybe we alluded to it, but we're probably like top five dense... Denses... Depending on how we measure it, whether it's per capita or other metrics, we are right up at the top in terms of certain measures of density. Okay. Does it make sense to point that out, too, or...? I think so. Because one of the things about one of the density... You're not linking with two-eager, you know. That's right. Density is the foe in a lot of municipalities that are afraid of density, whereas Arlington has density and has historically had density. Can't be afraid of it. So... Wouldn't do us any good. Historically, Arlington has been among the densest communities, period. In addition to the units, I mean, something like that. Or maybe it's at the end. Well, I think that's maybe what I'm thinking, is that you could say... I like what you just said. Or what did you just... You just said over... I wish I listened better, but not over the course of history, but Arlington has been one of the densest populations. Traditionally, Arlington has been one of the most densely populated communities in the Commonwealth and has many multifamily zoning districts. Perfect. Perfect. Hit home that point. And actually, I think I might start the whole thing with that. Start that whole paragraph with it and then say... And I don't think you need the... In addition to the units owned by the Housing Corporation of Arlington, I think... Well, unless you're saying... In addition to these housing developments, you've already mentioned this somewhere else, right? Right. So I think you say... You do that traditionally in Arlington and has several multifamily zoning districts. The town has approved and permitted two market rate multifamilies in 2013 and 2014, producing one inch of zoning respectively. Inclusionary zoning produced 40... I mean, why don't you put the number that you've actually reviewed? Because that's a lot. Inclusionary zoning produced X number... 40 affordable units at the two projects. I would say it would name the number of units that's been produced at each project. And is there anything that... Note this is in addition to... Yes. The aforementioned inclusionary... That's true. In addition to those... Yeah, so affordable. Actually, because it's in addition to both AHA and HCA, right? That would be the last sentence. Okay. So it will start with the town approved and permitted. No. Traditionally. Arlington. It's one of the most densely populated municipalities. The Commonwealth has several multifamily zoning districts. The town approved and permitted two market rate multifamily developments in 2013 and 2014, producing 116 and 117 units respectively. Inclusionary zoning produced X number of affordable units at these projects. In addition, the Arlington Housing Authority owns 716 units. How about switching it around and saying these units are in addition to the 716 units owned by the Arlington Housing Authority and X number of units owned or managed by the Housing Corporation of Arlington? Right. Good. That way you're trying to say what's new about this paragraph. And then I think you've really hit home that, you know, we've got three very... Well, four, if you count the CDVGT, well, I guess that goes into HCI to some extent in NHI. But you've got three pronged attack here that's being very successful. Correct. Good. That's a big deal. These units are in addition to the... and that closes that paragraph. And then the only other one I have is, and this is a question for you, under your parking, the egress proposed to access an egress, not parking, traffic, I mean, traffic, do you want, do we want to put something about no additional new developments planned in Belmont, we'll also... This is... Yeah. That's okay. Sorry. Yeah. Carol sent the... But yes, we do. It's out. Just after she says the original letter. Okay. Then I'm all set. Oh, I didn't see this. Oh, yeah, good. Oh, he's just forgettable. Yeah. I was writing up an edit to that section when she emailed this out to all of us. That's all... Just to make sure. So do we have a spot for Bruce's... We could. We haven't talked about it yet. I like it. I hope to draw attention to the fact that it's called the Great Swamp. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Do you want to put... You've got... The Mugar land is considered... Maybe a top conservative priority there. And then the town is stronger in supporting production. New deed restricted affordable units. I'm wondering if five should be where four is. So you follow right with affordable units, then you're saying they're also... Yeah, I like that. And then you put alternative development locations for previous development proposals. So just switch five and four for those two positions? I agree. Okay. Because five also... It makes sense to have that come right after three. Right? Because those are sort of... Yeah, there you have. Well, actually, I wonder... So then I think I'd actually move four down two where you've got previous development proposals. Yeah. I think I might... So that's where maybe we should add Bruce's... We could add Bruce's history there to kind of like be the first three paragraphs and instead of previous development proposals, you know, brief history of... Okay. History of these. Of the parcel. It's the history of the parcel. Brief history of the parcel. It's the history of the parcel, not of the development proposals. It's a little different, I think. So I would think maybe we could put it on its own. You could add a new section. Well, that's what I would say. Well, I was just going to include this last paragraph as the... I'm sorry, this paragraph here is the last paragraph of something that said brief history of the parcel. Oh, I see what you're saying. So that would be the fourth paragraph since the 1980s. Then rename it. Several. That's what I'm saying. So the new name would be brief history of the parcel instead of previous development proposals. So then you incorporate at the end the development proposals paragraph. Right. Right. You incorporate that at the end. And then you could have... So then it would... Yeah, I think that works. Four alternative development locations suggested should go after that. Yeah. That works because the town led to withdraw the proposals because of flood elevations. You saw the Mugar site history outline. Yeah. Were you going to include that or how are you going to do that? I was going to include that. Well... I mean the other thing you could do too is add this as an attachment. I think it's fine to have Bruce's history in the letter itself and add this as... An attachment. An attachment along with... So let me review for me. We would be moving... So... Four? Yeah, you'd have one, two, three. And then five is now four. Okay. Six is five. And six also changes its name to Brief History of the Parcel. Right here. So six is becoming five. Five. And the new five is Brief History of the Parcel. And Bruce's history would be the first three paragraphs of that new five. And then the current paragraph would be the last paragraph, the fourth paragraph of that. Okay. Does it work? Yeah. The only other thing I was just going to suggest is that last paragraph we were talking about the CSOs. We do already have a section on that. Ten. Okay. So we might want to, you know, get rid of the third paragraph of my insert. It's a little technical maybe. Yeah. But maybe take a sentence out of that and just explains what CSOs actually do. Because I think, I mean, it is technical, but I think it's worth explaining that it does combine rainwater runoff and sewage and industrial wastewater. So people get an idea as to what is going to be actually spilling over into the ALY floodplain. So what I'm suggesting is what Mike said, Mike's idea with the first two paragraphs going into the new item five. And then, where do you want to put that third one? And then just take, I mean, we may already have most of that in ten, you know. Maybe, why don't we play around with ten to make sure it does all of what you've got in your, just to add a little bit of context as to what a CSO is. Into ten. Into ten. Fuse this paragraph with item ten. That's right, but first two paragraphs go into the new five. The current paragraph is the third paragraph, which is now called Reef History of the Parcel. And then the current four is now six. Darn Roman numerals. Yeah, exactly. Four is now six. Yeah, four is six. So you've got alternative development locations suggested to Oak Tree Refuse, and then you get into proposals contrary to smart growth. Yeah, that's good. This existing paragraph under the old six, which is now five, will actually be paragraph three. Yes, three. Exactly right. Paragraph three. Okay, so on the page, the new numbering is six. Yep. Four. Four. Five. Okay, got it. Yep, I think that looks good. I'm sure that the Conservation Commission is submitting a good letter too. Yeah, good. So you won't have to have your letters do all that work of CSO's floodplain. It's good for the Board to mention it, because all of that comes under planning. And I think it's also sort of great to have more than one voice kind of mentioning these factors. So, you know, when you hear it from one source and it's being picked up from another source, there's a little greater emphasis to it. That's right. I agree. Thank you folks for putting that together. Thank you, Carol. You're very welcome. So this little paragraph eight, you can ignore. Right, so you're going to do new paragraph eight from the email, right? Right. So I'll take the best parts of the more technical description of CSO's and make sure that's blended in to Item 10. And the Affordable Housing Accomplishments will be an attachment to your letter as well as the timeline. So I will make all those changes and provide those to Board of Selection for the Board tomorrow morning. So may I sign with the Board like to consider having me sign for the chair unless it's convenient for you to come in? I don't know. You don't. Is it necessary for you to make this for that? You can tell me. Okay. So do we want to motion to or are we going to vote on it? I don't know what the vote is. I don't know whether we want to vote on it or not. Well, it's only a letter. Right. I think we've gone through it. I don't think it's necessary. I think that's fine. Moving on to an update on the central school lease proposal. Okay. So a proposal was submitted to the Commonwealth for leasing to the two mental health agencies that have long called the central school their home. And Bruce, thank you very much for your help on the lease proposal, the breath proposal. We went with an approach that would have about 10, 10 grand committed. And it's, it helps them because they get some additional improvements, though certainly not all of the improvements they saw in the proposal. It's just beyond our, I think it's beyond recent as well because it contemplates, it's a boilerplate right proposal. But it gives them some opportunity to get some improvements in their office space. And it also is kicks up the rent for the town. It's slightly below market, but that's, I think justifiable by the fact that you're in a building with a lot of other users. So it's not the type of office environment that you would get you would expect for market rate. So I think overall it's a good proposal. I have faith in it, and I'll keep you informed the deadline is the 12th. So we're in well under the deadline. Good. I wanted to get it in before the last minute. So we will hear from them and I'll let the board know what the response is. You recall last time we worked on the proposal and then without any communication we got a lease for two years. Signed price. There's no telling what we'll get. But it's been working for the town for a while and I'm optimistic that we'll be able to get it. I don't know what our competition will be but I think we're in good shape. Okay. Committee appointments status. Okay. You know that a lot of the current committee openings kind of depend on getting the full board appointed. In the meantime I can report on a couple items of progress. Laura, we are distributed I would call it a slate of candidates for the housing plan advisory committee which is a temporary committee to assist and advise with the housing plan update. Housing production plan is really called. So I think you have that in mind. So you can contemplate that and consider acting on that tonight. Also Andrew and I will be scheduling interviews with the redevelopment board candidates and then make recommendations to the town manager for his consideration. He may, I think it's likely that he'll want to interview the finalists once the board is appointed. We will be able to have the board consider who will serve on community preservation act committee and master plan advisory, excuse me master plan implementation committee. So do you have questions on the housing plan staff recommendations? Did Laura speak to each of the candidates or was this your review of resumes? She spoke with a good number of them. A couple of these people, she's already familiar with, certainly she's familiar with Panhaled. She didn't know everyone so she did speak with the ones she was unfamiliar and based the recommendations to the board on those conversations. And I'm sorry, once we make the recommendation what's the notion that that's the committee at that point? Correct. From my perspective, if this is what staff wants then I'm okay with that. I would say the same. So I'll move that the recommended applicants appointed to the housing plan advisory committee has stated in the assistant director of planning's August 6, 2015 memorandum. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Anything else under that agenda item, Carol? No. Moving on to Google of the minutes from our last meeting. I had only one item and that's the first senate's second paragraph that reads Mr. Vanell turned to the next agenda item of the AOB's input to the board of selectmen and I just thought it needed a little more definition there so I was going to add regarding the proposed 40B development of the Mugar property adjoining Route 2 in East Arlington. I was still writing. Which paragraph please? Second paragraph? Okay. First senate's second paragraph. I'm going to remind what that next agenda item was. And after instead of the period after board of selectmen turned that into I guess a comma and say regarding the proposed 40B development of the Mugar property adjoining Route 2 in East Arlington. I think the only thing I have is on the second page the first paragraph does not be the town moderators appointing actually I think I was talking about Ann LaRoyer who was a town meeting member and I think I said could be the town moderators appointing. Could be the town moderators appointing. Because I think we were going for two furs because I think we were thinking about okay who on the master plan advisory committee you know may not take up one of the more at large seats I think is what I was thinking. You're right. That's my recollection as well. That was what I had. Andy you weren't here but okay I have nothing else. I'll move to approve the minutes of the July 20th meeting as amended. Second. All in favor. Aye. I'm staying if I'm not in that position. Right. Any new business. The next meeting is next Monday right? Yes. We have a formal design review for a large house addition that butts the bike path. Have we got all the plans and everything? We do. You should be getting those should be going out to you when actually Friday. Okay. I believe it can Friday afternoon and it will include a directors report. I think it's pretty it will be pretty straightforward. At least my information can be pretty straightforward. Are we expecting any other agenda? I have to look at my I think there might be something else looking at you because I can't. That's fine. I was more curious than anything. I just kind of add things to it on my calendar. I'll look calendar on and it tells me there was another small item but I don't anticipate that it will be a lengthy meeting. Do you want to talk about the ULI? Yes, thank you. The Urban Land Institute is they will come into a community and do a charrette around an area. A charrette meeting almost like a very kind of a hit and run master plan. They bring in some top experts who will meet with stakeholders, will look at maps of the area, work with the staff on input, and we've been talking to them about possibly doing one of these for Arlington Center. Mostly focus it started out focusing on Broadway Plaza but I think we in they thought that it would make more sense to expand it to a larger area to think about circulation and other possible redevelopment opportunities. Yes. The third rail of Arlington. What I need to try to ask the board is whether you think you have some availability in September it would entail some daytime and at least an evening meeting. It would probably entail getting a joint meeting of the redevelopment board, board of selectmen and possibly the master plan implementation committee together. So we're talking about September possibly October but I think September is better. So that means that we've got to plan this quickly. Do you know whether your September schedules would preclude your participation or it wouldn't it would still be viable and valuable if it weren't the entire board but Andrew indicated that he would most likely be available to participate for the board. Do you think it's something we should proceed with doesn't sound like September is a busy month I recognize but do you think that you want to take this on recognizing that staff would do a lot of the administrative work? And do you use grant money for it? It's pro bono. Actually we might have to put a little bit of money in for materials and emotion and that kind of thing but it's not And we'll have a very focused outcome a very focused. Yes they would make recommendations whether there's a product a hold in your hand map or sketches I can't really say but there would be recommendations But in the context of the master plan too I guess I wouldn't want to after going through that whole process I'd hate for someone new to come in and frankly change it up you know some of the I wanted to coalesce I think that's one of the things they don't have to do would be to look at the vision statement in the master plan and look at the goals for economic development and transportation all of the things that bear on Arlington center from the master plan I would just hate for there to be content you know to be kind of rubbing them on the way after the effort especially if it's just kind of like a SWAT team in and SWAT team out without all the context and many hundreds of meetings so many dozens and I should also say that Mike Rodmacher has in the capital budget this year a huge amount but some money to have kind of a planning effort around it would basically be from Pond Lane to I think Jason Street just includes the area that we identified that Urban Land Institute would pursue if you want a little more information I can get that to you and you can discuss it further because we're meeting next week let's do that I would recommend doing that I'd like to know what it is and then be sensitive to what Mike is saying but if that's all solved to our satisfaction then it sounds like it might be a good idea agreed I think we can use that as a change what Mike is saying you don't want it to go completely you know 90 degrees exactly sorry okay so we'll get some information into how does it work how do they normally do it what's their scope process it's a great institution it's a great thing so that I will either provide by email or at a minimum it will be in your packets for the weekend great that's all I have anything else move to adjourn second all in favor aye thank you