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Head over to mapsfitnessproducts.com and then use the code AprilSpecial with no space for the discount. All right. Enjoy the podcast. You guys look very nice. Are these? Thank you. You're handsome as well. Here's what I want to know. Why does it take so long to cut your hair? It's just done. I don't understand that. It's the beard. Yeah. So because I saw her spend a lot of time on your head too. Yeah. I don't understand that. It's like one head at a time. No, yeah. No, no, no. The real question is like, which one of us took our shirt off? Yeah, that's the question. Hold on. I have a shirt under the shirt though. I just have all these muscles. Listen, I need him to breathe. Hey, hey. This is a shirt too. There's two shirts. So we have a barber in shop now, right? So this is the new thing. And I go first. I get my haircut. It takes a long time, right? Because it takes a lot of work to make this look like the way it does right here. Yeah, you think you just waked up looking like that? Yeah, this is a lot of work to be. A lot of invested time. You really have to pay attention. A lot of work to be a five. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So a lot of work. And then Justin and then Sal, and then Sal, any chance or excuse to take a shirt off, you know, like, I don't want to get, I don't want to get hair on my unicorn shirt. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to peel it down to the wife. I have two shirts on. This is also a shirt. You know what I mean? I like how my bare chest is. No, I don't like little hairs. I don't like the hairs getting stuck in my collar. Did her heart flutter a little bit? Or did she get a little nervous after you did that? Yeah, she started sweating a little bit. She was like, whoa. I know what I'm working with today. Oh, you're the buff guy. Yeah. Oh, now I can see why you're into fitness. No, no, no. I don't like the hairs, dude. When I get little hairs in here. Yeah. Oh my God. I want to punch someone in the face. You're going to take a shower. Yeah. So I feel, and I'm good, dude. Yeah. Making fun of my unicorn shirt. My daughter got me this, dude. That's great. I promised I'd wear it on the podcast a couple of times. I know. Now whenever I wear it, I send her to the YouTube and she gets all excited. Speaking of t-shirts, did you order Michaela Peterson's t-shirt? I did. You did? Yeah, I did. Oh. So good. Smart. Did she, she made a t-shirt of him being Red Skull. Bro. Yeah, her dad. You had to break down the video. So. This is, this is insane. So, and I thought it was, I'm like, get out of here. Did you pull up his quote by a chance I asked you to do that? I didn't pull up his quote. I wanted you to pull it out. Yeah, but I did. Maybe Doug can get to it. I did. I mean, did you see the whole, okay, so here's what happened for people out now. Yeah, break it down. So Marvel comics, they put out a new, another Captain America comic. Red Skull is one of his arch nemesis. If people don't know the Red Skull literally was like a super villain Nazi. It was like a magical Nazi villain. I don't mean, I don't mean figuratively. I mean, literally he was a Nazi. In fact, the original American, what's his name? Captain America comics were during that time and he was fight Nazis. That was the original comic books way back in the day. I used to love Captain America. Anyway, Red Skull was this Nazi guy. So this new one comes out and Red Skull literally has 10 rules for life in the comic book and a good chunk of them are like right off of Jordan Peterson's 10 rules for life. Right. And it's, it was deliberate. I mean, the more you look into it, like the more things you could totally like correlate between what he's put out and what they, I, I don't get it. Like he's, he's done, he's spent his entire career talking about the terrible, you know, how terrible totalitarianism ism is how bad Nazism is and communism is. I mean, it's all he talks about and he's been called the Nazi before, which is ridiculous, but this is like a whole nother level. Right. They made him an actual like fantasy character. Now, do you, do you subscribe to this being political propaganda? Yeah. Is that the move here? Yeah. I think one of two, my theory is one of two things. One is the guy, person who wrote it knows he'll sell a bunch by doing that. Right. Cause you know, causes an online. That could be true. Think about how many people are buying it just for that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so now you have to share because I watched the clip. Michaela Peterson came out. She did a whole little like YouTube clip on, on this, this whole thing. Right. And she even says that, you know, at first I just thought it was people making a big deal and like, you know, everyone always tries to draw up, make connections or something. And she's like, Oh no, this is blatant. Yeah. Very blatant. It's my dad. So I love, absolutely love how they're handling this. So what they, what she's decided to do and she's came out and said that anytime this happens. So if you're going to continue to slander my father, straighten up what you can straighten up, organize your local landscape, schedule your time, start taking control of yourself, clean up your room. You don't have to, you don't have to do any of this. That's okay. And how come you're running? Instead of us getting up in arms and making a big deal about it. What we're going to do is we're going to, we're going to make light of it and we're going to make merch out of it. Off it off of it. And then we're going to sell, not just, we're not going to profit. What we're going to do is we're going to take a hundred percent of the proceeds and we're going to give to a good cost. That's even better. I love that. And what they did with the shirt was it was, you know, so Hydra is like the group that red skulls part of it, whatever. So they took the Hydra emblem and they made it into like lobsters because you know there's that whole thing about. And, and that's great. And then that's the shirt. So I'm like, I got to support. I got to get that. So I'm going to have to rock. Very smart. I like that. I think that's such a smart strategy on media. If someone is messing with you to take it, spin it, and then point it in a good direction because it makes you, it makes it very hard to attack you. Did you, did you find the quote Doug? I was talking about. So on the YouTube video that she did, it's in the YouTube notes. I'll just absolutely butcher if I try and repeat, Jordan Pearson. It's in the notes. Yeah. It's in, if you go to the YouTube that she linked. I'll find it. She, right at the very top or written in the section, it talks about a statement that her father always says about taking evil, something evil and then turning like good deeds out of it, except for obviously Peterson always uses a much bigger words than that. But it's, it's. He speak big words. Yes. It's very eloquent. So if you, if you, if you read it, I wanted to read it. I wanted, I wanted you to read it because I thought that. Yeah. I'm going to find it right now and see if I can pull up the, it's in the notes. Okay. Let's see here. Now the quotes not in the notes. Oh yeah. Said out of ignorance, malevolence and slander, we will thereby derive some palpable good. Yeah. That's it. That's it. Isn't that great? Yeah. I think that's awesome. What a cool way to put a spin on that too. It's an interesting time, right? With people attacking each other through media. And I guess the winner's always a smarter person, not always the angry person. I think sometimes you come across angry. Yeah. It makes you look defensive or weak. I do agree with Justin's theory though. I think that this could have been just a strategy to, to sell more, right? For on their part before Peterson and he got it for that. Take credit for that. Yeah. Oh no. Sorry. Adam never thinks it's my idea. I will definitely take credit. Yeah. Yeah. It's on, it's on tape. Blinded. What a dick. Yeah. Anyways. Did you guys have a good weekend? It was great. Yeah. Oh yeah. You were, you were up in the, up in the mountains, right? Yeah. Up in the mountains. And you were out too, huh? Did you go fly fishing? Yeah. I went fly fishing, got the boys out and, and we, we did some practice. Obviously we didn't get much in terms of a nibble or any kind of luck there, but that's okay. Like it's going to take multiple trips of us getting better and like practicing for him to get that, but they enjoyed it, which I was really stoked on. And then we went, we went for our last run. So it was like the last, I don't know if it was technically the last day, but it was one of the last days that the resorts were open. And so we went and we were able to go board and one last day, we were sitting there and it was kind of funny. I was, you know, people watching. It's a great place when you're up there in the lodge and just sitting there and kind of chilling. And I noticed this, this group of ladies that were like, you know, over 40s, whatever sort of cougar kind of category, if you will. And these guys had walked up to them all like, you know, hey ladies, you know, like doing their, their pitch and whatever. And so they're kind of giggling and whatnot. And I'm just, you know, slightly paying attention because I got nothing better to do. And they start talking and flirting and this and that. And then they, the guys give her his number, they leave whatever, immediately they go on to Instagram and they're just roasting this guy between all four of them. They're just like, oh, look at this. So look at this picture. And I'm like, oh my God, this is a thing. Like this is what people do now. I didn't even realize that, you know, when you give a number, it's like now you have like all the visuals and everything else that you can just like start scrolling through it and just, you know, if, if this person does this, like, oh, that's weird. Wait. So did the guys think that they hadn't like, did the girls make it seem like the guys had a chance when they were talking? Oh, totally. Oh, they're, they're, they're all like, he, he, he. This one's hanging out later. Bro, we have men are no, we are no match for women. No. No. That was my first like, like insight. You were blown away for watching from the side. Yeah. I'm like, these ladies are nasty. How dare you? Well, this seems like some nice guys. That's a game though. Yeah. That reminds me of, remember when we had Enzo working for us, the kid that was fresh out of high school and he was talking about how like the way that you meet or start talking to somebody. Now it's not, you wouldn't want, if you're at a park, I remember asking him this, he was like, if you're at a big party and you saw a girl across the room that you were interested in. And she's in the room. Yeah. She's in the room across the way at this big party. What do you do? And he's like, oh, well you, you get on her Facebook page and you request a friend request and then only if she accepts, you then comment to her and if she responds, then you are so weird. I know. But this is the gen, this is like our generation or like, you know, older than us even, like this is how they're doing the single thing. Well, I mean, besides that, it's just, to me what that highlights is again, we're no match. Like the dudes probably, I guarantee you, because I know this is what guys do, they probably left and their conversation probably sounded like this. Okay. Dude, she probably, she totally wants to bang me. You know what I mean? And the women are like, look at this. Yeah. Look at this. Look at him in a swimsuit or look at what an idiot is. Or that girl's trying to be all, you know, ha, ha, ha, like this and that. And then she calls him later that night. Friends don't know. You think so? Guaranteed. When they all go home. Yeah, dude. Do you want another drink? Nah, I'm going to go back. So I want to sit your loser. Hey, what are you doing? Yeah. So I wonder how many times that happens and you, you know, guy or girl, right? Then you go and you look the person up and they look like nothing with the person like because so many people photoshop and use filters and it's the best of everything is on Instagram and stuff. Like how many times does someone go meet somebody and then get their information and then go look up on their social media and like, oh my God, this person is super hot on Instagram. Well, especially when you're wearing a bunch of ski clothes. Yeah. Like you don't get any kind of real semblance of like with their body, what you're working with. Right. I get it. Yeah, I don't know how I would, I would sort of, I don't know if I'd like it the way it is now. Like, you know, the old ways you just, you shoot a spitball at her or something in the room. Get her attention the whole time. Light her hair and fire. Yeah. That was my good. Do something like that. Let's go to a drink. Oh, excuse me. What's going on? Punch her in the arm. Thank you. I got it. I got a random DM. I actually got a couple from that episode that we did. Remember when we, I brought up the whole burger den thing, right? Yes. So somebody was literally, okay, listening to our show and doing their door dash, you know, driving around and had just picked up from Denny's and he was messaging me saying like, oh my God, this was, it's, he says, it's all branded. So you go to Denny's, you pick it up, but you pick up a burger den bag and everything and it has no resemblance of Denny's when you go there. Wow. So this makes me, I wonder how many companies are doing this. Why not? I know. If door dash is exploding and everybody's ordering food to their door, that's brilliant if you ask me. Totally. Because now you can have a kitchen. Actually, if you have a restaurant. It gives them a fresh new start. Bro, if you have a restaurant, you have a kitchen. So you can be like, Chinese restaurant. Dude, no. You could, you exactly, you could literally be a burger den, you could be a taco place and all of it can be coming from Denny's, but you can brand it four different ways and sell to... Now, here's the deal. Wow. Because part of me is like, oh, you know, tricksters, but then the other part of me is like, you know what, if they're good, they'll do well. If they're not, they won't. No, I'm not against this. Because if you order a burger from there, even if I could say whatever, why is a burger den, it could say whatever. If I eat it and it's gross and enough people do that, it's going to get a bad rating and no one's going to... Yeah, I know. I think it's smart and fair. I found a place on DoorDash by my house that I've driven by many times. I don't want to say the name because I'm going to say good things, but also bad things. I used to drive by all the time and they didn't look good. The outside didn't look good. I was like, it's not going to be good. I saw them on DoorDash, didn't connect it to. I just saw the name and I ordered from them. Amazing food. Amazing food. And that is an example of a place that was because of DoorDash, I tried and loved. And if there was just brick and mortar, I would have never given them a second. I wouldn't even look at them because the way the building looked and everything didn't look like that. Oh, yeah, associations are so powerful. There was a barbecue place like that. It got new ownership, but I was just so turned off by my last experience. I went there. I would never go there otherwise, but if I was to see it in a different branding and they delivered it to me, I tried it and then found out where it was from. I would be like, whoa, okay, I'll give it another shot. Speaking of barbecue stuff, do you guys, I noticed like how fast I go through my butcher box now that we're into spring now? Are you guys the same way? Like when I was over the wintertime, I have a meat freezer, right? And we have everything on auto, so the butcher box gets in. Do you get the biggest box? Yeah, I think it's the biggest box. Katrina is the one that has it. I think it is the biggest box. And in the wintertime, I find that we start to kind of fill the freezer up. Like it's like, I'll get around to cooking that or I don't feel like, but right away, springtime hits, the nice weather and stuff like that. I'm out grilling so much. And so I go through the meat way faster. I get the biggest box and I have add-ons and I still, I use it up because I just, I use it. I have it, I use it, I love it. And now I'm to the point where it's mostly tri-tips, flank steak and rib-eyes. Those are the ones that I eat the most. And then I'll have the pork chops. Yeah, I do all the steaks, chicken and all that now and the trigger and then burgers and all that kind of stuff. I'll still do on the grill and sometimes I'll do it simultaneous, you know, so I'm like cooking it all because I'm looking at all, because I'm trying to do it Sundays and we're trying to do more of a prep where we're cooking a lot of the meat at a time. I gotta do that. Yeah, I just started that. So that's, every time I've done that before, it's helped tremendously. Yeah, I'm not doing that right now and when I do, my diet is always way better. Of course. Always way better. Of course. And you save money. It's way better. You don't know, who is it? Because we just, where were we just at when I was, I wanted us, oh, when we went up the truckie last and I wanted us to do chicken, barbecue chicken instead. Do you guys not eat chicken as much? I eat a lot of chicken. I eat probably chicken the most. Do you really? I stopped eating chicken because it just has this weird consistency. Like when we went to grill it, it was kind of like chewy, grizzly kind of tasting, but once I started cooking on the trigger, it's a totally different experience. It's way better. I do red meat most of the time. I'd say I'd probably eat red meat every single day and I'd say I'd probably eat chicken two or three times a week. Yeah, so I love red meat. It just makes me feel the best, taste the best. If I do chicken, it's thighs. I don't do breasts too often, although I did a little stint with breasts because it was so easy to get a lot of protein through breasts. Yeah, I never eat breasts anymore. It's dry. Yeah, it's just, you know, and when you look at the macros, it's not that, you're not like saving that many calories and thighs. Thighs you can cook just like you're saying, prepping on a Sunday and then I can reheat it two or three days later and because of all the fat, it's still really good. You do chicken breast and then you reheat chicken breast. Yeah, so dry. I wanted to ask you, Adam, because your son, you know, is he still breastfeeding? No. No more, okay. No, once we hit one year, at the one year mark, maybe about, I don't know, a month afterwards, she was done. Okay, so when he was, because I did this with the Raleighist, it's hilarious, I'll tell you a story, but when he was breastfeeding, did you ever mess with him? Yeah. Like where he's on, like he's on the boob and you go down and pretend like you're going to take the boob away and do that? What would he do? Yeah, no, he pushes his hand on my face. Yeah, do this. He'll push my hand like that and then when he's eating or something like that, he gives me like the stiff arm. Oh yeah, I went in there and I was like, I pulled him off, like I was going to take the milk from him, you know? He's like, eh, hilarious. And then he does this thing where he's, when he's breastfeeding, he'll take his face off and look at her nipple or whatever. And then he'll take his hand and he'll grab her boob and he'll like squeeze it. We're done. He tried to get like, and then a little milk will come out and then he'll do his thing and then he'll move back and she's like, can you stop playing with my boob? What, you guys are on live now? Where are we at? Yeah, we're, I think five and a half. Five and a half. Five and a half months. Okay, so how, now how are the nights right now or have you guys started? He was doing good and then he did a little bit of a regression where there was some challenges. Yeah. So, but he seems to go be going back, but we had to do the whole all this morning. In fact, Jessica had, this is the first time it's happened. Now this happened to me. This happens to every parent that I know of where, you know, when you're doing the sleep training thing, you let your kid cry every parent had this. At least one time you let your kid cry. They don't stop crying. You let him cry, let him cry. You go in there and then they pooped a diaper. You realize there was some shit that happened. And I remember the first time that happened to me with my oldest son where he was screaming, crying, whatever. I'm like, now he'll go back to sleep. Went in there was poop everywhere. I felt so terrible. I still feel bad about happening to Jessica this morning. She's letting him cry. Let him cry. And she goes in there and then there was, so I come in from the garage and the look on her face and she's like, it was pooped everywhere. You know? And I'm like, oh, don't worry, baby. It's me and every now and then it happens. You won't remember. Dude, mine is going through this phase right now that I absolutely love and I want to freeze time. I hope this lasts for a while. But so on the weekends, I'm there for his nap, right? So during the week I'm not there for his nap time. Like when he goes, he naps like around noon or 11 or noon somewhere, depending on how early he got up that morning. And so I am, during the week I'm not around for nap time whatsoever. And Katrina always says that, like, you know, sometimes it's really hard for the nanny to get him down because like, he knows how to manipulate her. I've told you guys this before, he'll get down and want to play and then she ends up skipping it. He uses cuteness. Yeah. So he totally knows how to manipulate her to get out of his nap. So I'm never around for nap time except for on the weekends. And so what our routine kind of looks like is Saturday morning he gets up and, you know, he kind of lays with us in bed around 6.37 and he's playing around and we watch a little bit of cartoons sometimes for about a half hour and play in the morning time. And then around like 11 o'clock or so I know that he's getting kind of tired and I'll normally turn on music and I turn it on like YouTube videos or whatever. And as soon as I turn it on and I blare it like, we're dancing and stuff like that as soon as he sees me stand up like I'm going to dance he comes running over to me and he wants me to hold him and dance with him and I'll dance with him and one song in and he'll start to nustle his head into into me and the music I'm telling he was like full blast and he'll completely pass out on me like rock Is that the video that you did? You posted that one Yeah that was this weekend Oh that was But oh yeah and then he'll sleep on me for an hour and a half two hours while I'm sitting there listening to like music like full blast Now if you turn the music off does he wake up? So yeah if I can I can turn it down a little bit but it still needs to keep playing Okay so this is weird this is an interesting thing so it's the same thing with my son whatever sound or is going on when he falls asleep has to continue from to stay asleep so if we're having conversations and he falls asleep you gotta keep having conversations otherwise he wakes up so in other words going quiet makes him wake up Yeah no he's the same way if we What a pain in the ass I can take it from like I can take it from like blasting to like you know to where cause Katrina's like it's so loud she wants to leave and she's like it's too loud and I'm like nah it's fine he likes it I like it and so he'll fall asleep and then I can blow and then all of a sudden he gets startled and he wakes up I'm like yeah the noise he's fine I've heard of some parents that even like they'll invite people over all the time and they'll stop and everything like and make sure that there's like lots of like noise I was a lot of people recommended that to me they said you know you want to get them early on used to sleeping in that environment otherwise if you create this like perfect silent environment it's going to be in an area where there's light or noise or garbage truck or something yeah exactly now I get I understand the sentiment for that but the the reality is they're still not getting as good a sleep as when it's quiet so for example I mean I could crash out and fall asleep in this room but it's not going to be as restful because of the bright lights even though I'm sleeping it's not the same so this is the struggle that we have a situation where they can't sleep unless everything's perfect yeah and then they get no sleep some sleep better than no sleep it still ended up work because honestly I lost that battle I was the one who was like let it be loud let the light be in everything like that Katrina was like no like our room is like she made me put I didn't even know you could get this stuff I think Home Depot is where we got it you can put this inside your windows you can put like blackout stuff yeah like it's like almost like a tent that you blackout shades and then we have curtains over so like his room it could be two o'clock in the afternoon and you can't see shit dude when we take the baby for a walk cause he falls asleep in the stroller sometimes we bought these little baby like headphones that like go over his head his ears and just muffle out sound so you see it's the funniest thing we put them on them if he lets us put them on them it's very effective he'll stay asleep very long but it's funny cause they're big and he's got this little face it squishes his cheeks so I'll lift a finger oh my god this is hilarious I can't wait to show this picture to his first girlfriend Justin did you guys did you and Doug watch the the video that Sal sent over the economist did you guys watch that I haven't yet no yeah so Glenn Beck had do you know the name of the guy I don't know so there's a name of a really popular economist apparently he's predicted some of the the previous crashes pretty well really according to him it was really accurate how well he's predicted the other crashes and he came on Glenn Beck Sal sent it over and I listened to it really good conversation and he predicts Harry Dent so he predicts in the next 45 60 days that we see this bubble burst that Sal's been talking about for some time yeah well all the I mean everything points to the fact that it's crazy how much money they're pumping into everything and everything keeps going up like crazy and there has to be some consequence at the end of this that's just you know logic yeah absolutely and now he says it's going to get real bad because we had the stock market you know bubble pop or the dot com bubble pop we had the real estate you know bubble pop in 2008 and he's saying that this next one is going to be a money bubble meaning that because we've just printing money and pumping into everything that that's going to affect everything because if the money bubble pops we're going to see three more so Glenn Glenn Beck actually argued with him or he challenged him he says you know respectfully I'd like to challenge that and he says I think that if we do see it we're not going to see it as soon as you think we're going to see because he's called 45 60 days he's like this summer yeah he's yeah he's saying this around the corner we're going to see the alarmist right this huge crash and I I think what Glenn Beck is saying which is he's getting printed 10 trillion yes I agree well I just see a lot of policies keep pushing it out you know keep pushing as long as they can to you know try and shield everybody from what the inevitable is going to be yeah I heard a rumor and I don't know if this is true I don't know if you've read this anywhere but I heard that Biden was trying to pass a relief bill for the forbearances that would actually allow people that were behind on their mortgage to extend their mortgages to 40 years yeah I remember you brought that up I didn't find that anywhere yeah I wish I remember where yeah well nobody wants to feel nobody wants to be in office when the correction happens so the goal is to pump it until the next yeah exactly to blame yeah pump and blame because what's going to require if you're looking at it and you're looking at everything you say okay we need to fix this before it explodes just like a huge shit ball you still have to you're going to have to cut stuff and make cause some pain if you want to be I am out it wasn't my fault that's the next now do you understand the logic behind like that so I forget the name of that economic philosophy to like just can keep infusing money into the economy it doesn't really exist well it does Keynesian economics says that you know they talk about I don't think it's Keynesian I think it's there's another name for it and I wish I could remember I'll look it up so long as it grows the GDP year over year that you can get away with it because of how big the GDP is see here's a problem with GDP this is a big problem with GDP GDP if let's say the government says we're going to spend $10 trillion on I don't know putting solar panels on every single building in America or something right that goes to GDP so it could be it could be they could say we're going to make we're going to create 10 billion we could make you know we're going to make everybody's shirt red we could come up whatever they want if they spend it it goes to GDP so if government spending goes up GDP automatically goes up so that's it's a little bit misleading when you look at just GDP so you're right it is Keynesian so it does it does say that the theory proposes the spending boost of course I'm right I thought there was another term for that because of all the regulations they put in to protect the bank so they would never they would never fail after what we learned from OA yeah no if you I mean the two competing schools of thought with I guess what you call capitalism or free market economics would be Austrian and Keynesian but and the big difference is one believes in you know more of this kind of injection of cash whereas the other one believes more in allowing the market so this guy's theory is Harry Dent Guy unfortunate name Harry Dent I can't get past that anyway he he thinks that what's going to happen is that the central banks everyone's going to turn on the central banks and finally say that this is you know this is just not working and we need to get rid of them and obviously it's whatever now Glenn Beck I agree with him he thinks what's going to happen he goes no they're going to level up and they're going to bring it on the global scale so the argument will be everybody is because we need global currency we need a global blank we need global stimulus that'll fix it and I I agree with him I think they'll just level up that's what I agree I think what he says I don't think we see a crash in 45, 60 days new world order oh man is that not exactly what it is dude this talk is reminding me of something I watched did you guys want did either one of you guys watch the new it's the largest art robbery ever I just watched the preview for that but that was an excellent watch really good okay so I forget the name of it what the name that maybe Doug can look at the documentary it's trending in a top 10 on Netflix right now it's the largest art robbery something I don't know what the title is something like that so one of the things I'm watching it right so this is early on before I kind of this unfolds and I'm thinking you know what like because you can't sell it to anyone you can't even show it off because it's so famous that if the wrong person comes in your house and sees it now I mean this is time a factor like if say 10 years goes by 20 years no way no way so try and guess because I'm going to give you guys the answer that blew my mind so here's what I would think I would think that you can sell it there's a black market for it and it's much less expensive or you make less money but you'll sell to some weird party leader yeah somebody on the black market this is there it's called this is a robbery the world's biggest art heist wow so you're partially right okay so again so what I well I speculated with Katrina that it would be used as collateral on the black market so for example so you're a big cocaine dealer and you've got you know 10 kilos and normally when you drug deal you consign that to somebody so let's say Justin is a big cocaine dealer I supply him I've got he obviously doesn't use it right I've got 10 kilos that I'm going to give him what are you saying okay and in order for him to get that from me since he doesn't have the money to pay all that up front he would give me this piece of art as collateral so he could go do that but that's not even the number one way number one way that this is actually used that I had no idea about so because the art is such a big deal right there's only one of these rim brands there's only one of this I mean this gets the FBI involved like crazy so what a lot of these these like a lot of people that are you know thieves what they do is they steal these and they use it as as a bartering chip to get themselves out of jail so you you go rob one of these these paintings you got this as like a get out of free jail card later on so five years goes down the road and you get popped for doing a bank robbery and the cops are just like oh you're going in to them look here's a deal I can I can find this for you yes if you if you lighten my sentence sounds like we need pink panther that's what it sounds like oh wow yeah that's an old reference they they is a door I guess that is a door is a new door is a new door it's not locked so obviously I prefer to handle this Liam they actually interview like a notorious like thief that he has stole like hundreds and hundreds of more that he got away with that's brilliant though you get your get out of jail free card I know that didn't even cross my mind because all I could think about originally was like what the hell do you do with this you can't sell it online it would you be caught right away you can't hang it up in your house I know because even if you hang in your house I'm always going to believe you like bro this is a real right they'll either not believe you or they're going to tell somebody like he's got that Rembrandt that's been missing I would think that you would sell it on the same like the person who buys it is not well I don't know bro because have you guys ever seen who's that the major drug kingpin of was he Mexico of South America Pablo Escobar you ever seen pictures of his house and his tigers and his shit that he has this is like real exotic random stuff someone like that would put shit up like that in his house have you seen the gold ooze yeah yeah have you seen some of his old like bro pull up pull up Pablo Escobar's like he like golden everywhere he had a gold room he's like an exception to rule 2 like the FBI is scared of that guy you know what I'm saying like somebody at that level is totally different you know what I'm saying also think about this way you just stole a Rembrandt and you you're like I want to sell this Pablo Escobar how do you do that yeah let's meet in person yeah exactly how do you find that guy I'll give this to you for 5 million he goes I'll take it for $5 like oh yeah you may have it see if we can see the entire house gold you know weird he owned tigers and monkeys and he's got yeah he's got gold I don't know I thought that was really fascinating because that never crossed my mind that you could use it as a bartering chip but because it's so infamous right there's only so many of these paintings that I mean the FBI is involved that's a big deal dude there's massive rewards out for it so it's like you get caught up for some bank robbery and it's like hey you know I know where this 10 years ago is at if I tell you where it's at or I get it for you would you lighten my sentence or let me off now are they stealing this from museums or people's personal collection both actually so the guy that they interviewed in the documentary he's everything he's stolen from private facilities to up to museums and stuff so they do this straight up like I want to see like how he did it right because don't they have like crazy lasers you'd be blown away by the one that the biggest art robbery so it was estimated at $200 million and art was stolen from this place wow and it's not even all of it they just took a handful of things but if you saw how easy it was it was like they were super vulnerable super vulnerable they just walked in and took it yeah the security system it wasn't that like Justin's seen too many movies aren't they like lasers yeah you gotta break some kind of glass you know there's smoke that comes out of the Sean Connery where it's entrapment or what is it oh is that the one with Catherine Zenigal yeah where she like does the little the famous scene where she's in all black and she works through all the lasers I distinctly remember that speaking of things along those lines dude you guys want to hear a scary statistic you know how I've been talking about now for a while how men's testosterone levels have been dropping oh my god you talk about how bad fertility is getting so here's something to put in perspective right I actually took a screenshot of this and I got a oh here we go so here we go ready this is crazy now an average 22 year old male today so the average 22 year old today has got the testosterone levels of a 67 year old in 2000 oh my god whoa in the year 2000 bro so a 67 year old in the year 2000 had the testosterone level of the average 22 year old male today you can't tell me there's this is crazy look at this average testosterone has fallen close to 50% in the last two decades what this is worldwide or is this like yes yes it is worldwide I told you one of the most random and interesting things I've found with like doing what we're doing now right being out on social media when I started talking about my testosterone experience and the hormone therapy and everything that is the number one thing that I get DMs I would not have guessed that I would just because when I got involved with using steroids back when I was in my early 20s it was very taboo and not a lot of people talked about it and you just didn't hear a lot of people even talking about their testosterone levels and that is and it's young guys it is it's guys under the age of 30 that are reaching out and most the theories are pointing to chemicals in the environment just exposure to these chemicals that affect our hormones yeah you know it's not just low testosterone in men it's also how babies are developing in the womb it's how testosterone is a very important hormone for male development it's what makes us men literally in the womb the baby is essentially the same whether it goes female or male then the injection of testosterone the fetus turn into a male and that's of course triggered by chromosomes or whatever but you know so it's not just men young men they're having this and then again low testosterone causes all kinds of problems anxiety issues low confidence you lose your intelligence you can actually decline cancer risks go up it's really wild I mean 50% in two decades holy shit man that is super alarming this is crazy and it's it's actually a very big deal we need to figure out what's going on and so there's something that we have in our there's chemicals that are causing certain things and they're finding a lot of these chemicals and like babies breast milk and do you really think it's that or do you think it's just a combination of a whole bunch of stuff what do you mean do I think there's a single chemical no I think I don't think it's just chemicals is what I'm saying I think it's like I think there's more like cultural stuff happening I think there's a I think it's mostly to see that much of a decline in in one not even one generation 20 years right that is a strong environmental push there's something coming from the environment that's really effective so I would love to see then a study of like you know cause there's definitely people that even a decade ago that are raising kids like very hippie like right all whole food all no Xeno estrogens like everything is like they're very careful of all that it would be interesting to find a community that since kids birth and see where their hormone levels are and compare them to somebody who's I'd love to see that like whatever formula everything chemicals everything I don't care I'd like to see that too but here's the problem they find these chemicals in the urine and blood of people who don't even use a lot of these products it's so prevalent in everything it's in the rain and everything else like it just yeah it just it makes its way in the environment everywhere I would think though if that's the only place you're getting you should see at least some improvement yeah you would see some there would be less damage because isn't that I mean in the water because you brought up that the other day and things like that that has to be on the lower end right as far as the offenders or is that the highest so the ones that they're highlighting are these plastics like BPA was one of them right these plastics that are look plastics everywhere and plastics revolutionized our lives but a lot of these these chemicals that's the conundrum right I mean you look at like surgery you look at like plastic for everything in terms of like medical advancements has been crucial for all that but now you know the unintended consequences now those actually you know give us chemicals that are beneficial this is an existential existential threat if you think about it right if this continues in this path we could this could literally be the biggest problem that mankind has ever encountered if we become infertile yeah you know what are we going to do we just clone like how are we going to have kids just start cloning each other because I don't know where you would go from there this is all great science fiction movie yeah great that's what I'm thinking right now too this is real life what's happening hey since we're talking about studies so check this out this is pretty cool so here's how protective muscle mass is in the body so this study was talking about how protective it was for heart disease men with a lot of muscle mass and high body fat guys who have a lot of fat but also a lot of muscle decrease the risk of heart disease by 26% so just having more because of the muscle because of the muscle just having more muscle even with high body fat now the men who were lean with more muscle decrease their risk by 60% but still it just goes to show how protective muscle is for your health I was having a conversation with my brother of the weekend and finally got to see him and see his new place and he had he had one of the really crazy reaction to it the second shot he had a crazy reaction to it what happened? well basically he got all the symptoms of COVID like he might as well just got it but yeah it was like for three or four days it was just like out but his wife was fine didn't even feel anything and the thing about it is like my brother and I are polar opposites he used to play sports with me he was actually he never really got into the working outside of it and just avoided lifting weights like nothing like so he'll do some hikes and things but he's never really built muscle and so I'm wondering if that has a factor in all this of having that extra barrier of protection against these foreign sure yeah I was bringing that up with him because he's never even been interested I haven't pushed it on him I actually was getting your book for him because he'd be like the perfect guy to understand he needs to know why it's so essential that you lift weights yeah and it's good because it's coming from someone else I can imagine he probably doesn't want to listen to a thing you say because you're his oh yeah he's the older brother so he's got all the answers I was always coming him for all the answers well speaking of talented athletes and not wanting to listen to anything you have to say did you guys see my Instagram which one my Instagram post about the I did the 1.6 billion valuation is it overvalued yeah no I didn't say overvalued I said is it overrated underrated properly rated so I literally put you're just trying to get a feel for it yeah so I literally wrote I did a picture that is on their website I think of their their product and I put you know tonal receives 1.6 billion dollar valuation overrated underrated properly rated and just wanted to get a feel of my audience and boy did I piss off my buddy my buddy Brendan got on there and just and now I didn't actually know this and obviously he's invested in it right so so hearing me rag on it and talk about how I think it's overrated is just totally I mean he took it he took offense though oh man he went back he went so hard on me about it that because I he kept comparing it to Instagram which I thought was silly he's like oh Instagram at one point wasn't making any money and now look you know what the problem is and we've seen people come in to the fitness space and they don't know fitness and so they view it like I don't know like a tech company and they say oh it's got technology it's got this many users we've seen other tech companies grow from there it doesn't work like an app no it doesn't it doesn't work that way that's the bottleneck the bottleneck people have to work out and keeping people working out consistently and a lot of them if you can figure that out you've solved the puzzle right yeah that was my and his argument was that because I I haven't actually seen all their financials and know the quote-unquote stickiness of the product I have you know I have no leg to stand on to even put my opinion in I was like well okay dude I don't know all those things but I think my experience in this space for as long as I've been doing this I have some sort of a leg to stand on in this and to your point that's exactly right is that fitness is a different monster a lot of the all not a lot all of the tech companies that have gone public and made you know billions of dollars yeah the stickiness and though they're addictive I mean they they suck people in and people use them day in and day out for hours forever fitness has never been that way nothing has been invented nothing has ever came out in the history of us working out that has been so sticky that you become addicted to it and then it dies yes the most the most effective modality or whatever you want to call it that's gotten people to stay the most consistent is personal training nothing comes close to personal training and even personal training isn't even the same universe as like social media like you know people use Instagram on their toilet all the time they're looking at whatever people just this is the problem this is what we're trying to solve right is get people to well that's start and stay consistent that's the other thing the other point that I brought up was that you know anything that is a bandaid right for this like or is treating the symptom and is not the cure and is not revolutionary it is not going to stick around and blow up into be these worth billions and billions of dollars and a lot of these businesses and I know I was really going hard on him because he's also you know a big investor in orange theory and it's I said you know I hate to tell you this man but these aren't they aren't the answer man orange theory is not the answer for everybody I'm sorry are there some people that enjoy it and have success with it sure I'm not denying that it's not really solving the problem when we talk about obesity and the things that we talk about on this show that type of training is not the answer we saw that we saw it with curves we saw it with CrossFit orange theory and this is a cycle and someone will come out with a new way to work out that's fun gets people hyped and motivated which doesn't last and it goes like this and part of why part of why orange theory did so well and I remember I remember seeing it and going this is brilliant I mean they integrated tech into the group X type of training model very very well they took a piece from the CrossFit community thing and some of the exercises and the circuit trading and the competitiveness they blended new good tech and it was clean it was very seamless and they created this incredible environment that built a lot of hype and energy and motivation for people but what we know that's all fleeting like eventually people get tired of that eventually achy joints come and happen and eventually what ends up happening is they fall off and then the newness falls off and then we're on to the next trend yeah it's crazy because I mean even Fitbit like I had high hopes for Fitbit because they like centered it around community which was like one of the first tech companies really understand that it's about bringing your friends and bringing your family and like other people it's like a support system but even that like the newness of it the excitement of it just totally just went away Fitbit MyFitnessPal Buddybug the Nike the Nike one they're all cool yeah stop looking at them like they're Apple or Google or whatever they're fitness companies that use tech and so you have to treat it that way it's not going to be like a tech company the fitness isn't good it's just never going to work you have to like somehow the unicorn is going to be both of those together but I don't know what that looks like here's my opinion in my opinion if you want the masses to consistently exercise and has to be a cultural phenomenon there is no product that will ever do it and what's my evidence where you know like you go to certain parts of Asia where people wake up in the morning and they exercise it's part of their culture in fact some companies do this in Japan before they start work they do calisthenics or after dinner it's cultural that everybody goes for a walk or cities are designed in ways to where it's less convenient to drive and more convenient to walk that's the only time you see people exercising regularly it has to be a part of the culture what the products are going to do is they're just going back and forth now what we're trying to do is we're trying to work with the deeper you know part and this is what we're trying to do with the podcast and what we learn through personal training but still we're not going to solve it's a massive hill to climb it's a massive hill it's very very challenging if it's not a part of the culture it's going to be a very difficult thing by the way I'm all I mean I'm rooting for these things because here's the thing even if it just treats the symptom if it brings new people into searching for the cure I'm all for it absolutely you know so I'm not like and I wanted to make that clear they're like this is not me I'm not coming out bashing tonal I'm not bashing or hysteria I'm just telling everybody who's listening it ain't the fucking cure this isn't the answer to you like long-term fitness and health it is not it's a cool thing that it's got a lot of hype and energy brilliant marketing great timing right now that everybody's hyped about but I'll tell you right now you know fast forward 10 years you know I mean that's the truth you know I got I want to circle back real quick because I know I'm going to get DMs of people saying what products should I avoid I'm talking about the testosterone thing that I brought up with the chemicals I always get DMs and I always forget to give people like takeaways so here's a here's a good takeaway don't store things in plastic containers and don't drink out of plastic water bottles those have been shown to leak plastic not only that but in the manufacturing process of making plastic bottles there's microscopic plastic pieces in pretty much every single bottle if you have a plastic shaker cup and you store it in your car and you wash it or whatever hot cold it little by little starts to leak these chemicals so you want to use you know metal or glass I know Mirror is a company we've worked with in the past they make really good containers and they last and they don't probably like Mirror too because every time you make a purchase they're also giving back and they're doing right so you want to talk about a cool company to invest in and also take care of your health totally. Hey I hope you're enjoying the podcast real quick before we get to the questions head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our free guides we got a lot of great free information you can download and learn some great stuff about burning body fat building muscle and much more how do you bulk without gaining extra fat tissue when the fat cells already exist in your body alright so I'm going to reword this question how do you bulk gain muscle without gaining any extra body fat it's virtually there's a couple things here okay number one it doesn't take that many extra calories to build muscle you're not going to gain muscle anything faster than a couple pounds a month you know maybe faster than six or whatever but even at three pounds a month which would be amazing if you gain three pounds of muscle in a month that'd be phenomenal if you did the math on how many calories it took to produce that it's not much at all it's like an extra 50 calories a day so on the one hand you want to bulk in a way where you're eating minimal extra calories to build muscle by the way you also want to have a very strong muscle building signal in your body to build muscle but here's the other side of that because I know people listening are like it doesn't work for me I gotta eat way more calories to build any muscle at all well the reason behind that is because eating extra calories also sends a muscle building signal believe it or not if you bump your calories by 500 calories above maintenance or even a thousand above maintenance there's an anabolic you know part to it right it does send a muscle building signal so this is where we get into this kind of grey area now I know you said Adam for example that it's impossible or whatever if the signal is strong enough the body will build muscle and all I have to do is point to studies where men are given injections of testosterone so they're given steroids and their body weight often times doesn't change but they lose fat and build muscle at the same time now of course they have a very loud hormonal signal but that just highlights that the signal is the most important thing if you're really telling your body to build muscle effectively you're getting good sleep obviously you're eating healthy and you're following a workout this is the most important part you're following a workout that is appropriately intense has the appropriate amount of volume is utilizing the best exercises you're seeing strength gains if that is sending a very very good muscle building signal doesn't take that many more calories to build muscle I really I think you kind of have to be a black belt to do this right and it's really genetic free well it's less to even if you are a genetic freak it's still the mental discipline that you have to have because you have to understand that you could very well be building muscle at the perfect rate and not see the scale move whatsoever and so if you're somebody that's trying to build and you know you're eating at you or you think you're eating extra calories and you don't see the scale going up anyway it really messes with your head it really makes you think you don't want to like the scale go down to your point you could lose body fat I mean if you eat more calories you speed up the metabolism you build some more muscle which speeds up the metabolism and so there's a chance that you could add a pound of muscle but then also maybe lost a pound and a half of fat along your two or three week journey and then go oh my god I'm definitely not doing this right I'm losing weight you're right but in reality you could actually be just in so the hardest part about this is the mental discipline to just stay in the course to believe that okay I've figured this out I've got enough calories I know I'm eating well I've got I'm falling a good program I'm training consistently and I'm seeing strength go up and just staying the course there's no way around it like it's gonna if you were to try to really like nail this down it's gonna take a really long time and spread out and really managing your calories at a level that you know is just barely noticeably in a surplus like you just you just have to very much be meticulous about it I just don't know that a lot of people have it I suck at this for years right because I was the skinny kid that wanted to gain weight and so the scale was so important to me if the scale went up well I'm I'm crushing and I'm doing a good job but the reality is that doesn't always tell you everything so there's a few tips that I'll give you that I think can help a lot this is just based on my own experience number one are you getting stronger okay so are you getting not losing muscle or it's very unlikely that you're losing muscle and you're probably gaining muscle or at least going in that direction so are you getting stronger number two also use either body fat test or circumference measurements now for me when I gain body fat it's typically around my waist so if I measure my waist I can tell if I'm getting leaner or gaining body fat if the scale goes up and my waist it's muscle or if the scale goes up and my waist goes down holy cow I'm doing the the only reason why I don't like that one is because of like you know inflammation in the gut water retention and a lot of things yeah you can't take one measurement to heart you gotta do it like kind of I like the body fat one and you know if you follow me since the beginning this is actually how I built my Instagram so when I when I came out and I measured my body fat percentage 20 pounds and I when I when I showed the journey I actually my goal was to stay at 212 and that's where so when I came all the way down to 7% I was 212 still and the goal was to show people that I didn't need to have this huge swing one way or the other I didn't need to add on 20 pounds of muscle to then lose 30 pounds total and body fat it was like I'm gonna hover right around this 212 now mind you right and the way I looked at it was if I ever went if I started to creep up I would kind of back off calories a little bit if I started to really dip down I would increase a little bit but I was really trying to stay because I knew I had plenty of body fat to trim off I knew that I was consistent with training which I wasn't before that I was sending a signal to build muscle if I could keep my calories at a place that my body was kind of hovering around that weight I was training correctly and consistently and I was eating good that I'm probably having a nice little bit of it too and this took me a long time to understand is that building muscle is a slow ass process so if you're bulking and you're like oh hell yeah I gained 10 pounds this month it's probably not all muscle it's actually probably mostly not muscle you just nobody builds muscle that fast unless it's muscle memory so unless you were super buff before and you stop working out lost a lot of muscle and started working again or you're like the one in a million or a billion so if you're inching up on the scale ever so slowly where every couple months you go up a couple pounds or a pound and it sticks and you're getting stronger and you noticing in the mirror that you see more definition you're probably gaining muscle but boy does it take a ridiculous amount of patience because I know what you're talking about your journey that you did Adam where you where you did that weight transfer that was after years of you working out knowing your body I would have never been able to do that as a kid oh yeah no I didn't have the discipline as a kid to do that I'm glad you brought that up though I was just going to say you just brought up no no no talking about the muscle memory so I get tagged on this a lot so this is a good time to bring this point up so we get tagged a lot on people that show like these crazy transformations and people want me to like point out how fake it has to be and being truthful they're not always that some of them are fake a lot of people photoshop a lot of people do that but for me to come in and accuse somebody that they showed this ridiculous transformation in 60 to 90 days is fake that's no if you've been training for as long as we have I can whip my I can really make a huge difference because of how much muscle I've built over the years if I let myself really go for like six months and fall out of shape I can shred body fat and build muscle really quick and show a major change in 60 to 90 days so those don't always mean that they're fake it might mean that they've been training for a really long time they know their body they know their shit they know what they need to do calorie wise they probably were inconsistent tighten it all up yeah they gotta tighten it up and they tighten it up and they actually make a massive change when I had shoulder surgery years ago I remember you know if you've ever had a cast on and you take it off it's always frightening you take it off I remember stick arm yeah like there was like nothing my shoulder was non-existent and I remember how it was like a couple months when I was finally able I lost like two inches or two and a half inches or more in terms of muscle and it didn't look like my arm at all and it came back so fast it was literally weeks where it was right back to where it was before so muscle memory is a real thing yeah next question is from Jackie 18 is there evidence to suggest that eating more meals more frequently throughout the day is better for weight loss than two meals with the same amount of quality calories there's okay so here's a deal with this now I've been told for a long time in popular fitness culture that eating small meals was superior right so if you eat this was the story at least or the narrative if you eat small meals it stokes your metabolism throughout the day it feeds your muscles amino acids throughout the day therefore it's better for burning fat building muscle so you need to eat small meals throughout the day okay is there evidence to support this hardly any to zero the reality is the thing you should pay attention to the thing that should dictate whether or not you eat small meals or you eat fewer and larger meals should be based on how you feel personal preference that's the most important thing now the reason why this started was because bodybuilders so we eat tons of calories you eat 5,000 calories a day you're not going to do that in two meals you're going to eat five meals it just makes more sense and then supplement companies got their hands on this and said oh what a great way to eat because if I sell the average person that they need to eat five meals a day they're going to eat breakfast lunch and dinner or maybe just lunch and dinner difficult to prep all those ahead of time and then so you get other companies you know the six pack bags all that kind of stuff yeah but I mean that's that's something that's been crammed in almost like everybody's head in terms of like that's the healthiest way to approach it but honestly it makes a lot more sense for a bodybuilder is trying to get more calories in because big huge meals you know that's pretty difficult to digest the effect from the calories which is which is the same right so if you eat a 4,000 two meals total up to 4,000 2,000 2,000 calories you get this massive thermogenic effect which is the same as if you take those 4,000 calories and you spread it over four meals or six meals so they're just smaller thermogenic effects the net thermic effect is the same so it doesn't really matter where I see a lot of value in this and where I would have clients do this all the time was actually just to teach them portion control you know you do massive meals it's really hard to kind of get an idea of like what six ounces this is what 12 ounce of that is is how many calories is this really where if I had if I had a client and I say okay your total calories is 2,800 calories we have to eat and I divide that up over five or six meals they see these little small portions and get an idea of like where their meal what their meal size should kind of look like and you just kind of teach good behaviors that way that I liked it for that or to your point is yeah when I was eating 5,000 calories yeah good luck eating that in two meals especially if you're eating whole foods just not happening so for those reasons it makes sense at the end of the day it's whatever you're most consistent with so if you do better with prepping five or six meals and that you like to just kind of graze all day with small meals verse because here's the thing that I also like about that too you never get really really hungry and what I have found when clients get really hungry and you're more likely to make bad choices I mean I don't know about you guys but when I have a long day here and you know I go like a you know and I'm unintentionally intermittent fasting and it's 12 hours I mean boy everything sounds good yeah I'm driving home from work and I'm easily influencing you know Katrina's calling me what do we want to do for dinner and I'm like I haven't eaten all day I'll have whatever you want to have versus if I had already had three four meals they were balanced and everything like that I'm not starving for my meals so that's another reason why I like the small meals and that's that's more the mental discipline yeah and again I've had clients that do far better with fewer meals it actually helps them eat less calories and they're busy and when they're working it's not that big of a deal I've had clients like what Adam's saying where they prefer to eat every few hours and have a meal personal preference 100% should dictate this for you and for me for example I'll give you an example eating small meals throughout the day I do far better having long breaks in between meals reduces inflammation in my gut helps me with digestion and I just feel a lot better doing it that way but I know people who are the opposite I know people who are like man I can't eat one big meal it hurts my stomach I'm doing better with smaller meals personal preference should dictate this there is no real you know significant advantage one way or the other except for the extremes like obviously you don't want to eat like once every other day or you know you don't eat 10 times in a day but within reason doesn't make a big difference really just follow what works best for you what makes you feel the best next question is from Jade Taylor Turner what's your opinion on F-45 training here we go now they're kind of like orange theory right where they do a lot of the circuits and they go from exercise to exercise is that what that is I wanted somebody to cause like I know orange theory obviously I've even done one of their workouts but I've never seen a F-45 very similar so they're lifting weights okay so you know orange theory has they do three rotations you have rowing, running and then weight section and then they rotate throughout the hour and every time you do a workout it's a little bit different but for the most part it's one-third, one-third, one-third F-45 is primarily like more boot camp style like you go get your weights kind of you guys remember how like body pump was yeah so you have like weights or dumbbells and an instructor that's teaching like this weight training class so it's a little more focused on weight training than orange theory now is it traditional resistance training will you rest no it's it's still very circuit like yeah it's still very circuit like they're not you know and that's it's unfortunate because you know it wouldn't be a bad model but they know group instructor like this standing up front and making everybody okay we're gonna rest for two minutes what do we do for two minutes yeah and just everyone standing still they gotta have real good stories or like yeah you know anecdotes yeah I mean I remember when I was teaching orange theory I would yell this right I would stop a class like turn the music on stop the class and I'd yell at everybody in the weight training rest yeah I remember you saying too and I thought this was brilliant when you'd have those rest periods where you'd actually educate them like you'd pick a topic you'd say something about nutrition that you know you could kind of use that time to educate instead of just you know wasting it and looking around aimlessly yeah the weakness with f45 is the same weakness you see with lots of group classes with weights number one it's not resistance training it's cardio with weights you could do cardio with anything and this is a cardio with weights type of class number two it's a class it's really difficult to tailor workouts when you're dealing with it with that group type environment now is it smart business and marketing well yeah it's fun it's exciting it's probably exploding it's probably going to you know at some point hit a peak and then tank like other fitness trends and fads do but as far as a workout is concerned you're going to get some conditioning some stamina and you'll get some cardiovascular work done but if you're looking for the benefits that resistance training provides where you're building muscle speeding up your metabolism in that particular sense then you're doing the wrong thing you want to do traditional they have Mark Wahlberg don't they yeah yeah that's how Mark Wahlberg and save your DMs because I know we're going to get DMs of people that work there and like oh Adam there's another they're all going to I mean that's every time we talk about something like that like we you know offend anybody that works there listen it's cool dude but it's not ideal just group training will never be ideal for people there's such an individual variance for every single person in this room of 12 to 15 people and the here's the thing group training for muscle for building muscle and burning fat not ideal could you do yoga or like a priming class like where everybody it's a little bit different like the goals are different and so you can get away more with that but something that's as specific as or conditioning like on a sports team or something well there's just so many more variables that dictate whether you're going to lose fat or build muscle if there is dialed in this way modality of training they haven't trained this way in a long time this might their body might respond perfect for this class but then that maybe that person who's right next to them doing the same thing is in too much of a caloric deficit or over consuming that it doesn't even really matter or not resting whatsoever and doing lightweight mechanics matter so much with traditional resistance training and how your body moves matter so much and I'll look I'll even argue against what you're saying in the class in yoga will it is it far superior to have an instructor do yoga with just you yeah absolutely so it's the same weakness you see with all classes but as far as resistance training is concerned you get like this much of the benefit of resistance training it's mostly cardio next question is from Austin Owens actual which training style do you all prefer percentage based or RPE based if not either of these what do you recommend I laugh at these questions people get so hung up on those they do I mean I understand if you're a competitive athlete it makes more sense like a power lifter that's about it yeah that's it that's where I stop that's it if you're a power lifter this makes total sense and it's the only time I don't laugh at this but I built a competitive physique the 1% of the 1% at the professional level without ever paying attention to any of these I like never once I like feel it's always feel for me it's always feel because I can have and you know maybe today we're supposed to do 80% of whatever and I ask them hey how do you feel or I'm watching them as a trainer oh it looks like they're a little out of it or whatever we're gonna go easier you have to train your body for that moment how you feel physically and also mentally by the way you can feel great physically feel poor mentally and that'll have a massive effect on your performance and how your body recovers and responds so really it should be based off of how you feel now here's the problem is that a lot of people want objective measures like tell me number whatever now I know heart rate variability was promised to do that the problem with heart rate variability was it's kind of a pain in the ass you gotta be real good at measuring have that right technology to do it now what it did not always accurate either not always accurate but it was better than nothing it was probably the most objective right way that we saw and then not that long ago we had Defranco on the show and I thought he said I love what he did was absolutely brilliant so I'll show which of course it came from someone like him somebody who we respect in the industry one of the best trainers and coaches that's been doing this for a really long time of course he came up with a a simpler yet very effective way very effective so I'm going to show everybody so if you're watching this on YouTube you can see I have a and I don't know how to say this right a dime a dinometer dinometer dinometer essentially you squeeze this and it measures your grip strength and so here's what he said and I thought this was absolutely brilliant so these are devices they're very typically inexpensive I know we have one on our site so you can buy these on our site if you want to you essentially what you do before your workout first off you want to set up a kind of like a control right so every day before you work out you want to calibrate you want to squeeze this as hard as you can with both hands and write down the whatever number you got and then also at the end of your workout mark down how you felt how were you did you have a lot of energy after about a week or two you'll start to see some correlations oh on the days I had great workouts my number was this on the days I was whatever my numbers were this then you can start to use the number that you get on your your gripper test or whatever as a way to dictate for those of you that want objective numbers how hard you should work out so you squeeze it and say oh wow it's a readiness gauge it's testing your CNS which is great so you kind of know what you're working with for that day and like how you know it's just it's a more of a way to actually find a real metric out there to kind of identify how you're feeling but it's still feel-based well that's the reason why I mean our good buddy Craig Capurso he built an app around this it was the flaw that we saw in this was like you can't have a computer mathematically figure this out for you perpetual progress doesn't exist no and it can't figure out what happened last night I mean last night could have been you got some crazy news that was devastating with your family then you stayed up all night you got terrible sleep and then here you are showing up to your workout and that you can't mathematically figure that out and your computers already told you what you're supposed to do that day where me as a coach if I was training you I would ask you how was your night last night oh I just found out my grandmother passed away and I didn't sleep very much me as an experienced coach knows right away I might have had a plan today I was going to push you to this RPE or I was going to push you at this percentage but now I'm calling an audible because I know what happened last night this is a problem too back to our earlier conversation about tech products this is what they don't understand there's a lot more to it than ones and zeroes it doesn't just work out in a perfect formula and laid out there's so many variables and you have to have individual coaching to make it work this is why I like and again it's not perfect but it does feel so it's important because people tend to second guess themselves do I really feel good do I really feel bad whatever you feel you feel and that's kind of your truth right that's the truth of how your body is going to perform essentially but the reason why I like the dynamometer is because it measures in real time your CNS and how great you're squeezing right there so it's like literally right before you work out you crush it with your hand that's how you feel like I feel kind of crappy let me check you squeeze it you see your number like oh yeah definitely have an easier work out and that's the trick here too is not like cause I want to caution cause you're going to get people to buy this and be like sell my numbers at this what should I do it's like you need to do the work just like I would coach somebody with nutrition you gotta see what your numbers are you need to track yeah you need to track for a while to find out what a high number and a low number I like to see two weeks of every single morning at the same time same everything you squeeze this thing right and you find out over those two weeks okay where's my high and where's my low and then that's your range and so then going forward when you go to squeeze this before you go to work out and you see where you land it oh wow I'm on the peak this is like I'm gonna get after it today oh wow I'm towards the bottom oh I'm in the middle so and you adjust your intensity based off like that absolutely it's perfect look if you like your content you gotta head over to mindpumpfree.com we got tons of guides and written information books all free mindpumpfree.com you can also find all of us on Instagram you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam and that's a wrap-aloo literally this is no joke I know there's a lot of books written on the obesity epidemic and how to solve it and they're like oh all these complicated literally this is it right here if people just reduce their heavily processed food and take down or less heavily processed food that's it eat like you want to enjoy your food