 40 here. I'm using my super cheap Aussie phone. So tell me how much you hate it. Like definitely inferior video and audio quality compared to my iPhone with the Shure mic. But I get 80 gigs of data on this plan on my Australian plan, my Australian phone. 80 gigs of data for 40 bucks. All of my iPhone. I can only buy 15 gigs of data for 50 bucks. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. See those prophecies? Now I wish I had my iPhone. My God. That's spectacular. That's the governor. So normally the governor primarily want competence. They don't necessarily want ideology. And someone just fell off the side here. I just fell off the side here a year ago, taking a selfie with his girlfriend, fell 30 feet to his death. So why was Florida so strong? Is it because Republicans have been moving to Florida? And that's why Ron DeSantis did better than expected. But Ron DeSantis went way up in the betting markets. Donald Trump plunged overnight due to the election results. That still looks like Republicans will win the house. Harry Lake is sharp. Watches to beat. She becomes a superstar. Yeah, she is sharp. But I think in governors races, people primarily want competence less than ideology. So John Federman won. John Federman wasn't sharp. So maybe people don't care about debate performance so much. It's time to buy Bitcoin. Bitcoin is in free fall. So why are all these tweets out there saying that people who promote Bitcoin should go to prison? I don't get that. Why should one have to foresee every possible danger with anything you endorse? Why is it the responsibility of pitchmen to thoroughly and comprehensively study any product that they're pitching? They're just getting paid to perform. They're actors or they're famous people selling a little bit of their fame in exchange for money. But no, I don't think people who endorse Bitcoin or famous people who pitch Bitcoin to go to prison. I don't even understand the mindset that says these people who endorse Bitcoin should go to prison. It's not that pitchman's responsibility. So I came out very strongly against Bitcoin about two years ago. So only two years ago did I start reading up on it. And I read about five in-depth articles on it, became an expert. But after I looked into it, I just don't see problems that Bitcoin effectively solves unless you're a criminal. So what's going to come out of this election? Ferry Lake has just started Time Hotel, but she is ex-media. She knows again. Yes, she is very effective with the media soundbites. Sounds like she'll be Donald Trump's running mate. But as times become more serious, maybe people will put a higher premium on competence rather than sharp soundbites. So that overhanging rock, I saw this Sheila who just climb it out there on that overhanging rock went over the fence yesterday and did not join her. I think crime will remain a winning issue for Republicans. And so they spent probably six times as five times as much on crime in Pennsylvania as they did on inflation ads, which is good because Republicans don't really have a plan for dealing with inflation. And Republicans do have a plan for crime. It'll lock up the super predators. Why is it so safe in Sydney? Why is it so unsafe in Los Angeles, New York, Washington, D.C.? It's because of the super predators, right? If you just lock up that 1% of the population, commit vast amounts of crime, you can have safe cities again. So time to lock up the super predators. That's just basic, blunt Republican crime platform there. Lock up the super predators and Los Angeles would become a safe city again. Lock them up, keep them locked up until at least past age 40 because if you let them out under age 40, more likely than not, they will re-offend within three months. Re-offending in the sense of getting caught. And how much offending are they doing without getting caught? So almost no homeless here in Sydney. So I think part of that is the difference in the American ethos of freedom versus the Australian ethos of fairness. So from an Aussie perspective, it's just not fair. People go homeless. Australians are willing to sacrifice freedom for more fairness. But there's more of a sense of collective responsibility. There's more of a communal sense in Australia while in America, it's much more about individual freedom. Because the United States emerged out of the pre-enlightenment. And then the post-enlightenment, the second British empire that gave birth to Australia and New Zealand had much more of a sense that human beings were rational, were basically good, that you could plan a rational, cohesive, fair society while the people who settled in America came here primarily for freedom. Different understandings of freedom, whether they were Puritans or the Scots-Irish or the Quakers or the Cavaliers, but they're still all about the freedom. So one of the downsides of the tremendous freedom in America is all the homelessness and crime. Those are cockatoos, right? It's magnificent, but America has always been a savage nation. Everyone has always fought each other. But even hard times, right now, yeah. So America has never been as homogeneous as Australia or England, let alone France or Germany, let alone Poland, let alone Japan, Korea, China. So I think Australians would be much more likely to institutionalise the mentally ill. Also, in Australia, marijuana is not legal. So I think for a significant number of people, marijuana acts as a gateway drug to hearted drugs that fry their mind. You can no longer safely do recreational drugs because of fentanyl. So many people taking cocaine or heroin lace with fentanyl and dropping dead. So the new meth and the new heroin, it's just frying people's brains, leading to astronomical rates of homelessness. Richard Spencer's show, they were talking about our capitalism as responsible for homelessness. But overwhelmingly, the homeless in America, more than 90% are alcoholics, drug addicts, and the mentally ill. That's not capitalism's fault. A large part of that is just drug and alcohol abuse. Now, why do people abuse drugs and alcohol? Perhaps at a disproportionate rate in the United States? I think maybe it has to do with the downside of freedom, less sense of community. And so when people are free, they're free to do horrible things, not just good things. Oh, okay. Marijuana is legal in the ACT now for small, personal amounts. That's brand new. But it's just huge in California. I mean, so many pot shops, everyone's doing marijuana. I have not smelt marijuana since getting to Sydney six days ago. I don't remember ever smelling marijuana in my two months here last year. So that's really nice. I haven't heard anyone talk about marijuana here because not nearly as big a deal. So people are crying their minds as likely on drugs. Also, I'm dealing with a really good class of people here on Sydney's Eastern suburbs. Okay. Sit down when I pontificate. Pontificating is hard work, right? Okay. I expected the Republicans to do better. I'll admit that. I was taking it back. So the pollsters had a pretty good night. Pollsters were basically right about these elections. Along with the pollsters, the media were pretty much right too. They were more skeptical of the red wave than Republican politicians. Republicans definitely hurt by Roe v. Wade. Republicans definitely hurt by the quality of their candidates. Crime though has to be a winning issue. People are just coming in right now. Good. So crime should be a winning issue for Republicans going forward because Democrats can never be as law and order as Republicans. And Democrats run all the big cities which are just crime-ridden. So people are just coming in right now. Good. So Democrats just don't want to talk about crime. It's amazing going into the 1992 election on the issue of crime, Republicans are up 14 points, but Bill Clinton turned it around so that Democrats were thought of as better dealing with issues of crime through the 1990s. And then over the past 20 years, Republicans have generally been seen as better dealing with issues of crime by about 10 points. Now it's up to about 12 points. Particularly strong issue for Republicans. There should be going forward. So I subscribed to Richard Spence's ratings journal substack and there's a lot of good content on here. You really get your six dollars a month worth. I mean particularly if you look at it for intellectual entertainment, right? You're not looking at it for responsibility and truth, but someone who doesn't care about responsibility just letting it all hang out with hot tags. Yeah, so that woman who's running for Congress in Montana and it was like about abortions that campaign at and you just posted the link without any commentary and I watched it. I didn't like hate the ad, but I guess to me it almost like reflected I think my and probably your like kind of ambivalence about the issue because I mean here you have this white woman, very nice, you know, pleasant middle-aged woman and then here she has her family and I guess she has multiple, I forget how many daughters and you know and the ad was not very aggressive. You know it wasn't like this really kind of an obnoxious pro-choice stuff. It was very kind of calm, but you know basically saying that Zinke or how you pronounce his name is very anti-ad. I don't know. So I guess to me it was you didn't really comment on it and to me it was almost reflected like well these are the kind of people who you wouldn't want to have abortions. I know, I know, I know, but it's a it is ultimately a federal issue. I mean I guess we could get in some comments where we're like let's have you know you make abortion illegal in Montana like mandatory in Alabama. But you know, I wait there's no inherent reason why abortion has to be a federal issue. In fact that's the opposite of the intent of the founders. Most things should be left up to the states. I don't think that's reasonable and the other thing is that like I hate to sound like a shit live here, but there are many other issues outside of just like natural intelligence and race and keep in mind that Monica Trinnell has had three children. So she's doing fine. You know she's kept up her end of the bargain. The human race will survive. But I mean there are serious issues with like early prenatal testing in terms of like you know gown syndrome etc that are yeah there are always other issues. Diesel and gas left have no more oil reserves to drain. So yeah it's a good good issue to go after the Democrats on that the transition to green energy is much slower than the media portrays it. We've only enough to shift about 2% of our energy needs to green energy over the past 30 years. It's just a minuscule amount and there's absolutely no evidence that green energy is going to be after supply most of our energy needs for the next 30-40 years. There's just absolutely no hope inside. We're going to rely on fossil fuels for many decades to come and and it's kind of absurd to to think otherwise. So what do you do when you've got an issue that you believe in strongly but that polls really badly? So abortion right many many Republicans feel very strongly about abortion but obviously it's a loser as a as a political issue. So there are a lot of things that we believe in very strongly right that we may not want to impose on other people that we may not want to legislate right just because you you believe strongly in something doesn't mean you need to legislate it doesn't mean you need to talk about it in your campaign or in your private life right just because one feels strongly about something nothing has to inherently follow from that particularly with politics so it sounds like it's very much going to be in Republicans best interest going forward to play down the whole issue of abortion right it doesn't have to be on your campaign website doesn't have to be in your speeches all right you don't have to try to legislate it you can just say that morally you're opposed to it unless you're in an overwhelmingly conservative state but Kansas is pretty conservative and the the verdict is strongly for abortion rights. The ad was not very aggressive you know it wasn't like this the really kind of an obnoxious pro-choice stuff it was very kind of calm but you know basically saying that Zinke or how you pronounce the name is yeah I don't know so I guess to me it was you didn't really comment on it and to me it was almost reflected like well these are the kind of people who you wouldn't want to have abortion. I know I know I know but it's a it is ultimately a federal issue I mean I guess we could get in some comments where we're like yes big win for Ukraine you know abortion illegal in Montana but like mandatory in Alabama. But Republicans been all over the place with regard to Ukraine many Republicans have criticized the Biden administration for not doing enough with regard to Ukraine that we have to get tough and we have to send them in a bigger stronger meaner weapons but you know I just don't think that's reasonable and the other thing is that like I hate to sound like a shit lip here but there are many other issues outside of just like natural intelligence and race and keep in mind Monica Trinnell has had three children so she's doing fine you know she's kept up her end of the bargain the human race will survive but I mean there are serious issues with like early prenatal testing in terms of like you know Down syndrome etc that are utilized by all sorts of people it's not necessarily eugenic but it seems it might be kind of eugenic on a second order you know it's like you're the amount of time you're going to invest in a child who has no future I mean that's really not acceptable and there are you know a lot of these edge cases rented or edge cases but that doesn't mean they're less real of you know women where the fetus is barely alive and is you know can't survive much longer and this they can't be aborted because we're in the third trimester and this person this woman is like endangering her life due to this I mean these are rented pretty rare but they're nevertheless real and I think we should be serious about these things yeah I wasn't really meaning that as a criticism I just thought the ad itself was kind of odd because it was just it was almost like a very wholesome ad but it's about this very you know a lot of the abortion people are just pretty disgusting in terms of how they um and I agree the Republican stance like Sarah Silverman or something where she's like you know I had an abortion and I loved it everybody like that yeah I agree that was kind of incongru incongru is the ad it was anyway just how it almost like a like a Republican ad you know um you know the way that she was showing off her family and stuff but um yeah another thing about the um the uh you know the exceptions that they always talk about incest rape life of the mother what's like you know yeah overall there's no substantial difference on Ukraine between Republicans and the Democrats there is with some Republican commentators like Tucker Carlson but uh the rank and file Republican politicians are just as supportive of Ukraine as the Democrats was uh unfortunately you know that's like uh we're all like products of rape so like you know that's really an evolutionary past I mean like that's an interesting point we're all products of rape in the evolutionary past so how many generations back do you have to go in your family Russia should be looking east not west any matter of time for China take Siberia back Ukraine war equals very low IQs as a chat but yeah how many generations back do you have to go until you are a product of rape right so I'm not aware of any uh raping ancestors in my line but of course there had to be and so we have these basic instincts that are frequently not very nice that's why I don't agree with the enlightenment view that human beings are basically good I mean men are basically rapists they can get away with it they frequently do and we are all products of rape we have that in our DNA good point not like people make it sound like this is like a you know like a minor thing but it's like uh that does happen and it happened a lot more in the past so um I mean to me that's okay well I mean to me it's like it should be a bit of those genes but anyway that's that's a separate thing anyway just because we are going to change I mean it is very true that what you're saying which is that rape and you can't get rid of those genes all right because sex is inherently a violent act right it requires aggression the man has to penetrate the woman and so ideally you want the violence you know confined within within marriage but the level of violence that it takes to conquer a woman right that level of you know aggression absolutely essential for men now you want to channeled in pro-social directions but you can't eliminate those genes it was ubiquitous and that there's no question we're all kind of a product of rape on that level I mean what you were saying is factually undeniable but you know we're not living in the ancient world anymore or the middle ages yeah you know it is fortunately it is much less common that people are you know it's more in the you know generations back I'm just saying the the republican types they make it sound like it's you know it's like this total fringe thing and it's you know unfortunately not that it's pretty dishonest yeah I agree the other thing like just talking in terms of like pragmatic things um I mean how you prove that you've been raped like let's say this like white girl is raped by some black or something like and she goes to have an abortion in Texas and you know how does she prove that are they just taking her word for it I mean I think it's fairly unclear actually it's not not to not to defend those laws not not to defend these draconian laws right as I recall when these laws were enacted the provision would say that there has to be a police report essentially and the police report has to have been filed within a certain number of days of the other rates of occurrence that's how so you don't you don't need a um a conviction or something because I can take yours yeah that's right that's right okay well I guess that is fairly reasonable I'm glad you all added that but you know look there are some weird situations I mean what about the pre-teen who's raped by an uncle or her father there's a horrifying situation like that that is not unfortunately that is not as rare as it should be I mean that that's a real thing and are you going to file a police report on your horrible father I mean I I don't know it just it's it's horrible um I think you know I also yeah but if you're not willing to file a police report then then maybe there should be some privileges that don't but don't go to you all right so many people say horrible things happen to them but they never bothered to file a police report so it's a lot harder to take allegation seriously when people don't bother to file a police report my grandfather was a a radiologist actually in Louisiana but he went to medical school he was interning in a catholic hospital and it just shows kind of how in a way reasonable people used to be of um he would he knew a doctor who told him this um when he was doing gynecology or OBGT or OBGT YN whatever it is um and he he basically when there were when there a child that would be born that could not survive uh the physician would ask the nuns present to go eat lunch or something like that and he would be amazing and it was a morsical anger so my mother she was killed by an overdose of morphine my mother was dying very slowly painfully of bone cancer she got down to about 50 pounds she was five feet tall and 50 pounds and and eventually coming around April 28 1970 the doctors thought she'd suffered enough just gave her an excess of morphine and it killed her so I find it hard to get to get upset about about that I mean she was she was in pain she was in a horrible way and uh just gave her a little bit a little bit of morphine a little bit too much and Richard talks about his grandmother said she didn't want to be on life support hooked up to life support for years so I'm not sure if they have a right right to die in the south wales but uh was a big political campaign and I believe a past and uh fundamentally that people have the right to die and and uh they can contract with a doctor and to to kill them and uh this is this is fairly common in many parts of the western world is he doing the wrong thing like maybe the parents should be involved in that or so on I get it but there was just a certain kind of like realism that I think was present among previous generations um and the kind of unrealism that's present among current for lifers that I think is out of control I mean one pretty formative thing in my life was something that I don't know if you guys remember I've heard of the Terry Scheibo there from 2000 so why has the abortion issue become so unreasonable because it's become a holy issue it's become a moral issue as much out of the compromise on a on a moral issue than a pragmatic political issue and it's become a holy and a moral issue in America because it's a proxy for race it's a proxy for all sorts of perspectives it unites basically everyone right of center right Catholics evangelical Christians uh trads who aren't Christian can all unite behind a common opposition to abortion so abortion is not really about abortion in America it's a proxy for attitudes towards race race and uh sexuality and more race yeah I think it might be 2005 it was after bush three what yeah there was a woman who was being named she her life was being maintained purely through technology for I think a decade or something like this I mean she was brain dead and her husband who I believe had like remarried I think that added a little like twist a little thing I can correct me if I'm wrong all the stuff but um yeah he had taken up a relationship with another woman and they had some kids to go okay but still like pretty normal like understandable and reasonable stuff and I mean just the idea that you want to go die on that hill so to speak of like maintaining the life of someone who is total has no rational faculty or consciousness whatsoever is just right you'd have to have a faith statement that you need to maintain a life of you know someone who's brain dead who's hooked up to machines that's a that's a faith statement and it's hard to argue over a faith statement right when when I encounter someone who's making that that position just on the basis of leap of faith then like you can't argue with that but there's nowhere to go in that that discussion so when these issues become moralized and and rendered wholly and separate from messy world of daily politics then they become less and less solvable absolutely grotesque in my opinion and it's in no way trad or whatever because she's being maintained through advanced medical technology wasn't the argument that she's like oh well she still communicates with me and she is kind of still there wasn't that like one side of it I don't think Terry Scheider was communicating with anyone there was one side there were family members that thought that we're being well if someone if someone groans or raises up for a moment so Milo Yiannopoulos is going on temple show saying people want to see blood because you mean that in terms of civil war you know Milo is a very dramatic fellow he's into excitement and thrills I can't take his Christianity seriously until he makes amends to all the people that he needlessly and gratuitously hurt like he was nasty unnecessarily to a lot of people just check out Lauren Southern's video so Milo Yiannopoulos like Nick Fuentes strikes me as someone who's just using Christianity for instrumental reasons who cares what Milo Yiannopoulos says well he was the leading right-wing entrepreneur for about two years running up to the 2016 election so he's played a significant role in this country's political history he had outsized influence very talented charismatic man so who's getting back on twitter have you noticed that like is along musk I started allowing some of these old die-hards back on twitter well it's really hard to determine when does life begin I mean you can understand that there can be various faith positions on that and different people can come to different positions man a lot of helicopters out so I believe that the generic Judaism position is that life begins when it's viable so not a lot of rabbis would hold that life begins at conception in the same way it's the same quality of life as someone who's already born trying to like rationalize away something and it's like there is a spark of life you know you win the sport there's something so let's not like totally lie about this I totally agree it's a life form but it's not really a citizen you know I mean I think that's a distinction that it's not really it's not a citizen that's the distinct so yeah Dennis Prager made a good point the question isn't so much when does life begin but when should the right to life begin I would say and and then also there's just a kind of pragmatic realism of like some bad things happen I mean I think one in five pregnancies result in miscarriages so miscarriages are common and there there's the issue of down syndrome and other mal-effects like that and then there are just these granted edge cases but there you know when we're talking about the education it's not really like being struck by lightning I mean it's much more common than one in a million or whatever that is I mean these really serious issues were like I mean again these are reported out in nature publications I don't think they're lying there's like there are women whose child like can't make it and is now like in their stomach but she can live like it's not a direct direct threat to her life but there's like a possibility for becoming septic or something it's just like guys seriously like this situation is bad enough like let's you know you have to allow people to I feel like the average IQ of the Richard Spencer participant in these group calls on his radix journal substack is probably pretty high around 120 like a lot of good quality conversations terminate the pregnancy and just kind of move on with their wife and have another child you know I mean you've got to just not be this obsessed with this issue uh and just black and white moralism it's from a level of like uh like grad school debate in a sense the pro-life side it's almost always presented these sweeping philosophical abstract well saying that people should not be obsessed with this or that republicans haven't run in part on abortion because it doesn't work like it has worked to unite large parts of their base now overall abortion is much more of a winning issue for democrats than for republicans but to win the republican nomination republicans have increasingly found absolutely necessary to be pro-life and sort of these saccharine terms of like what we love the babies and so forth uh yeah they don't they never they never do want to get down to the nitty gritty in the way that we are in this conversation talking about these cases like the real impacts these things have on women's health the real difficulties these laws cause in the world that we're living in so what do they say again sir yeah well I mean look I think I mentioned this on one of these calls like a year and a half ago but um this was back in 2002 or 2003 around that time so I was a young man out of college and my maternal grandmother my grandfather actually had died and it was uh uh quick and a good death he was actually out hunting when he died perfect death for them in many ways because he loved uh hunting uh productive and uh my grandmother really kind of fell off a little too much I'm not a choice you have to kind of deal with really serious issues like this you're a bad new moral person or something like this I even remember specifically that my grandmother told me many times when I was a child she knew someone who was kept on life support for eight years or something she would always tell me like Richard just pulled alive for two more days of the consciousness and existence I mean I'm not I mean it might mean you're a moral person because doing the right thing you know when it's hard is that um and just to be honest it wasn't that hard yeah Richard do you remember what the other I remember the Terry Shido thing was like a really heated debate what was like the other side saying I don't know well they were they know she might really be there or something but they were mostly like slippery slope arguments kind of like this is going to bring about death panels and so soon we'll just be able to murder everyone who turns 50 or something I mean it's just yeah I think the conservative position is that there isn't such a sharp distinction between the fetus and the baby remember the liberal position is that we're autonomous buffered strategic rational basically good individuals conservative position is that we're not buffered but there isn't these clear cut clean cut distinctions between fetus and baby between brain dead and heart dead that we're not buffered individuals but we're part of a community and so that you know what happens to someone who's brain dead and hooked up to lifesaving technology but that that still has an effect on the wider community so it's the difference between the modern liberal buffered strategic autonomous self and the porous self of the traditionalist people these that were affected by what's going on around us which by the way um remember it's not ridiculous it's just the difference between two different conceptions of self the traditional medieval conception of self and the modern liberal enlightenment conception of the self about whether nick point says we're going to advocate voting Republican in the deterrence oh yeah hold on hold on was it about the deterrence or 2024 midterms okay i know it's for a hundred dollars but uh i'm a man of my word i'm a man of my word i'll speak to you i actually don't i'm going to i'm going to do some research and i'm going to screen record it so um yeah i'll find out but yeah i can't stay on tonight i just wanted to say that before it's like you might be able to wiggle out of it because they'll say something like uh you know you know don't look so what's the what's the philosophy of the hate watcher Lawrence i get you hate the show you despise the show so when you even watch then some people you know watch shows they absolutely hate i i never do this so i don't quite understand the psychology or the the thinking or the predisposition of people who watch shows that they love all right um i'm a little confused uh what's the uh did you say that you said that you quote this wooden from outside i think this came from like late 2020 or 2021 and basically dylan was like oh but i just listened to the point as he's just so angry the republican party gave them and when i said it's like look the rubber hits the road it's like he's going to tell you to go to the republic yeah that sounds like something you would say so i yeah yeah much like with the whole yang gang phenomenon or you know i think i wasn't the only one to kind of forward with bite in is on some way where it's like well who cares what's the difference between Trump divided from it's not so bad but you know again it's like when the rubber hits the road they're going to order you to uh open the jewellery all right ryan shit oh my god in ohio okay 23 ryan is up tim ryan yeah well jd van's one fairly convincingly what by more than four percentage points in ohio no longer such a swing state much more of a red state like florida obviously after they count uh day of balance and early voting goes to democrats so wow this is pretty interesting so ryan's up by 30 000 votes wow better than is that 25 we should be 18 percent reporting these up 25 oh my god are we seeing a blue wave when i was up four that's 62 percent that's pretty high so hey richard um i was watching a little bit of crystal and sagar so yeah richard says i should have gone with my gut how often do we say that should have gone with my gut my gut is always right i think when richard and when i say something like that we all we all tend to have blinked views i guarantee you that uh my gut is not always right i guarantee you that your gut is not always right i guarantee you that richard spencer's gut is not always right but we have such a blinked understanding of both ourselves and others according to crystal she was saying that the democrats are going to end up there really well because she had some behind the scenes data or something so interesting yeah holy shit i should have stopped my god oh my god i used my head to boost my gut oh my god i was right like i think fenderman's gonna win more knocks gonna win i'm really hoping ryan wins i'm afraid lake will probably win in arizona that obnoxious woman um and i don't forget what you know what you don't agree so ideally you want your head and your gut kind of lining up right when it's your gut versus your head you get uh you get torn up so yeah laurence kind of says sometimes i'm interesting but uh frequently i leave him uninspired would you mind agree with me with with that kerry lake like 20 years ago so yeah kerry lake is an incredibly compelling charismatic person but uh the compelling and the charismatic doesn't necessarily make for more competent leaders all right so people are good on tv and snappy with the comebacks unnecessarily more effective at governing