 So Jose when people approach you and ask I want to become a service designer or I want to become a better service designer What is the first tip you give them? So I think I'll give two tips For them. So one is be curious So be curious about the world about everything that is happening around you Uh, that's when you you start to Think about service design. So this is a trigger and the second one is Bring your point of view to everything that you do Don't just bring data But bring intelligent data Put your point of view on that if you want to be a good service designer You need you are hired for that So you need to bring your point of view. That's what people are looking for not just only the data