 all right we are recording okay let's go ahead so key lime you've applied for sandbox does anybody have any uh thoughts about this project um i they've been talking i know they've been talking to parsec because there's some overlaps with parsec um not directly but they're certainly in contact um they're in the middle of oh that's right yes they're in the middle of re-implementing and everything in rust so it's an exactly weird state because it was written in python however you're writing in rust seems like a good thing yeah but it does make it a little bit difficult to contribute potentially i mean or use because it's like it's that kind of weird transitional stage um i mean i guess we i mean we've had this with we had this with linkety um but there was an existing i guess there was an existing thing you could use until it was linkety one and then they switched to linkety two and it was kind of that kind of work but it's kind of weird as a sandbox slightly we're doing a sandbox state because basically us some existing in the sandbox are also switching switching languages um so i don't i don't yeah i guess it's not it's a dual breaker it can happen at any stage with any project yeah yeah i think if that i mean it looks like it's a red hat project um do they have contributors i mean you know this isn't a blocker but i'm just wondering if there's contributors or interest from outside of red hat oh there's somebody actually from canonical but it looks a bit so that's you know if they're if they're applying in order to get that kind of neutral ground i'm not sure that the rewrite is a problem no that seems like a good thing so yeah they're definitely talking to the parsec people about things they can use in common when they've moved to rust right key lime orchestrates trust and parsec abstract security from the for the platform i guess i find myself just curious about what they want to get from being in the cncf so we really need to start asking that question going forward but um it seems like a cloud native project should we does anybody want to say anything else or should we have a plate do we want to accept key lime to the sandbox i think that's everyone who's here so good to go yeah we can have a every now and then why do you want to be in the cncf next time