 Hey, welcome to the what the Living Pittsburgh show where we look to bring you interesting people and places in and around Pittsburgh and today We're really excited to introduce you to Kathy Kathy. Hi There are so many interesting things that we're gonna learn about Kathy everything from cake to popcorn to event venues Tonight, so we're really excited about that And as we kick off our show like we do every week. We like to do what we call the The Living Pittsburgh give back program. So let me see here So the way this works Kathy is We're going to pick a nonprofit we've picked one that I know is something that that you have participated in the past Do you want to give us a little bit of background of what is the Butler County Alliance for children? Oh, Absolutely, I love to talk about about that organization a good friend of mine from college is the founder and executive director and they do forensic interviews of kids that are physically and sexually abused and in the area and help put cases together and I don't know how she does her whole team how they do what they do every day the emotional Fall or drain it you would be so drained emotionally but there are amazing people in this world and Then Hayes is definitely one of them. So I love to support her anytime that I can so hopefully I will know what these These locations are around Pittsburgh Well, don't feel bad and for everyone watching already We do allow kind of like a dial a friend type of situation So if Kathy is struggling on getting one right and you guys know posted in the comments on Facebook We'll actually be able to see that and we will give Kathy some points for that as well. So all right, so the way that this program works Or this game works is we are going to show you five pictures They are pictures of people places things events in and around Pittsburgh For each one that you correctly guess we're going to give a $20 donation in your name to the Butler County Alliance for Children And I will you talk about I'm going to match it You're going to match it terrific. That's great. Okay, so let's hope it's not a zero, right? That's what we're going to go You're gonna do great. Let's give you your first one That's market square it is I'm like leaning in you can tell I'm an older guest. I'm leaning in Yeah, so market square if you're from Pittsburgh and you're not familiar is is an incredibly fun place to go So obviously, you know, it's a big open space. It's right downtown They used to have and I don't know if they're doing it during COVID But they used to have I think it's every Thursday or Friday night. They had live bands They usually have some sort of musician playing down there whether it be I believe they are doing that again this summer I just received an email from them the other day because we set up a tent down there Oh, and I believe that they are doing it again this year. Yeah, it's a lot of fun in it's free Which is like the best. Yes. You go down there. There's a bunch of restaurants right there There's coffee and food and beer and wine, you know, whatever it is that you you'd like to do It's all right there. Okay, so good. You've got that one, right? Let's go to the next one Do you know this place well it has to be close to downtown because That's PPG place and that's the high mark building There's a Hilton That is that that fort? Oh, you're so close Does anyone online know if you know leave it in the comments down below or something What we're gonna a lot of people watching so anybody out there Ray Ruth anybody know that answer they can help us out How about you Susan? Well, I'll give you a hint Kathy. What city do we live in? Pittsburgh for Pittsburgh I already picked up the answer We everyone here calls it the Fort Pitt Museum, I think it is actually the Fort Pittsburgh Museum though Okay, I think Heather you've been you know, I gotta say I've never actually been inside the building I've been around the building. We actually just had family pictures there When one was that Michelle in the fall, right? Yes, you're right. Jess Lynn's got the right Fort Pitt But I think Heather you've actually been inside. What's it like? It's beautiful. They have Displays they have a room you can go in watch a little video of the area. It's first class. It's very well done Okay, so you are two for two Excellent, I will have to put that on my list my to-do list of fun things to do with my kids this summer because I've driven past that I would say it probably at least a thousand times and I've never been I've got to be honest until Heather was telling us like She's actually been there in his first class It looks very small from the outside and I just was like, you know what? I'm not gonna pay to go in and see one or two things But I guess it's much much better than that. So it is on our list as well Okay, well and you get to go into the Fort the little old building outside And they take you in and show you where the gunmen used to be and where they show you where the actual Grounds used to be because I think it's built out now So it's just very interesting very interesting history We did we took the kids to Fort Ligonier two years ago and toward it and it was very interesting Our oldest daughter is very into history. So she enjoyed reading all the little stories all over and seeing all the historical items So we'll have to definitely do that this summer. She'll love it there then This is tricky Okay, well, let's look at the angle because it looks initially like mount washington, but you said it's tricky And the angle that you're looking down That i'm guessing that that is a park and I don't know what it's called But it's not it I do what wait. Well, is it a west is the west end park? Oh, man, that was a good one really Yeah, it is it is I didn't even guess that I didn't know the answer You know the only reason I know it all comes back to your kids A friend of mine took their kids there and I saw them post pictures on facebook and I was like, oh I lived in Pittsburgh all those years and I never I'd never been to that park Yeah, it is actually You know other than mount washington itself It is like the most iconic spot to get a picture a selfie in front of you know with the city as a backdrop Yeah And I want to give a photo credit to david de sello Who who I found this online and and poached from hopefully he's okay with that David great picture Yeah Okay, so we are three for five um This is another place you would take your kids You know adults too, but um, you know a lot of kids go on field trips here From their schools. It is a national aviary. That's right. Nice That's a tough one because it's an aerial shot It is and I've never seen it from that angle, but I recognize that school across the street because I've delivered there before Yeah, so yeah, there you go using other landmarks to find the right one Yeah, this this angle was really interesting I thought because again, this is another one of those buildings That's a little bit deceptive when you see it from the outside from the parking lot It doesn't look nearly this big. It doesn't look nearly that big and I've been in there many times and you're right It look it looks a lot smaller than it is, but that's a very interesting view. I've never seen that before Yep Okay, so we are four for four Which is amazing Okay, do you know where this is at? This is a little bit outside of Pittsburgh No, probably obviously with the waterfall in the background. Is that Ohio pow? Yes, good job. Yeah, you were worried We went there last summer for my daughter's birthday We're under God. I I have no life outside my kids And it was a fabulous day highly highly highly recommend it Did you do the trail that walks? Um from that waterfall and does the big loop back to it. Is that the trail you took or what did you do there? We since we had the kids with us we Took we did not go on it was like a class three. It wasn't oh, yeah. No, you went on the lower yuck. Okay Yeah, so Yeah, for pits burgers that haven't been to a howl pow first off is a super cute town There's you know an ice cream shop a hot dog shop a couple smaller restaurants You can rent bikes But the main attraction is the river Or if you're into hiking there's a lot of hiking trails out there But the river is is probably what draws most people there and what you see here I've been down this river maybe 14 times. I've watered wrap wrap white water rafting is something I love doing I've done it all across the u.s. Um, you know virgin west virginia virginia over into colorado But this particular river is is great for a family. I think you have to be 13 or so 12 or 13 To go on it It was well because I was able to take the two older girls and then my husband and our little one They went on a canoe trip. Oh, that sounded like a lot more work to me. So Yes, we loved it and I got to tell you if you enjoy what white water rafting I highly recommend going down to tennessee and going white water rafting, um We did that a couple years ago and it was We had dragonflies flying all around us. It was Yeah, I actually got like a tear in my eyes. I'm going down the river like it was so Beautiful and so it was just such a great moment. Yeah, I love it Yeah, so so how how's it great? It's about an hour away. It's well worth the visit Whether you want to go on the river or just look at the river. There's so much to do Right in that area, you know, there's just plenty So, okay. Well, let's go ahead and transition To a little bit about you kathy and the businesses you have so I I had a chance to first meet you. I think it's almost been two years um When you were kind of getting popped mv you were already in motion with popped mv Uh, but you were we were doing a show in freeport. Um to do it Something with hgtp where we were going to broadcast, you know more about the town and that was a great video by the way Thank you and we really wanted to support a lot of the local businesses, right? Give you guys credit because it's the businesses that make the community with the people And so we had a chance to do an interview with you. So tell us how You know start at the beginning because I you have a business before that making cakes So start there And then tell us about your newest venture because I think people on pistol need to know about it and we'll be pretty excited about it Okay. Um, well, I started making cakes. It was 16 years ago in april My oldest daughter Was eight months old and she was diagnosed with food allergies to wheat eggs and peanuts And I really wanted to have a special cake for her for her birthday It was the first time I was Really 30 close to 30 first time in many many years that I was not working I was I chose to be a stay-at-home mom and Just a lot of time when your hands when you have an infant because they sleep a lot Police minded. Thankfully I was a very if she was a blot a blessing truly God bless me with a good sleeper. But um I just started that's when ace of cakes was was really popular and I would watch a show and I was so intrigued because Um, I for a while when I was younger I lived in butler. So to me A birthday cake was always a 10 inch round from roberts bakery From with all the like the sugar roses and stuff and I was so intrigued that cake was Could be more of a centerpiece and I was very intrigued by fondant And I started playing around with it and after a few years A friend of mine said I really think people would start paying you for those And so I started a little business called Kathy's custom cakes and then um It started to really get a lot bigger. Um I knew that I didn't want to have a full-fledged bakery. I did not want to have retail hours So I ended up um when we moved to Pittsburgh because of my daughter's food allergies We put a we created a bakery in our basement of our home. So I had um, which is a blessing and a curse It was nice because if the kids were taking a nap, I could go to work But work was always there. Um, and as you can see from the inverted chandelier cakes they request kept getting larger and larger and And I loved it that cake there my friend. Um less polenco. She's an amazing sculptor We created that together The faces that you see on the top tier there are a replica of the faces that are on the top of The mirrors or the mirrors the um windows You could see how the windows arch up and at the very top that face with the with the like the feathers are coming out Um, we were at an event. I don't know maybe a year prior to that and she said we need to do an omni cake because that's the that's the ground ball room of the omni And um, she's like there are so many artistic elements that we could pull from this room and do something spectacular. So Is this hanging from the ceiling? Yeah It's so it's a chandelier Yeah, well, yeah, it's it's actually hanging from the balcony. Um, I did another one Um, there was the first one I did actually and it actually hung from I think a 68 inch chandelier and the top tier was I don't 26 inches. It was massive Yeah, and in as we're talking about the cakes tell me about This one because I know that's pretty special That is um one of my that is less the lady. I just mentioned she is one of my dearest friends And that is us and la The two and a half years ago. Um, we were that's the power the good of social media is that people um, such as the food network can find you and um, and That's how that's how we were discovered. Um, this is actually the fifth time the food network would call me But it was the first time they called me about a show that One I could do because it was only one episode. Um, and I have three kids So I I couldn't leave for more than four days And um, I felt like this was the right the perfect combination for her skill set and my skill set To create something that we had a real chance at winning And um, and we did so that was really awesome. We joke. It was the most wonderfully traumatic experience of our lives Okay, so you started out Uh with a bakery that wasn't a bakery because you didn't want to have uh, you know, normal bakery hours Something in your basement. You converted a basement into a you know kitchen that you can use And that led, um, do I think? The popcorn. Yeah So the cake business it was extremely stressful was extremely time consuming. Um, we had decided that it was Time for us to leave Pittsburgh and move out and we decided to move to Sarver um, a good friend of mine runs The Pittsburgh division of a concession for a concession company and he'd been saying to me for years Um that their products are a lot of their project products are allergy safe Um, and that was our big thing with my daughter still being having her food allergies um And I started brainstorming with brian and and just talking about fundraisers and when madland would bring home a fundraiser form If it was anything edible, she could never eat it and one in 13 kids now have food allergies and um We talked and this Couple cost analysis and decided that this would be my new venture Um, because it wasn't such a specific task that I had to have someone so skilled and specialized um Popcorn is it's not quite like making a cake that hangs upside down from the chandelier I'm still I I wanted to um, thank you because when we invited you on the show I went out this morning to get my mail and there was a box and in that box was this wonderful popcorn Um michelle or and or heather. Can you just show us what's in the box? Oh, yes, so we have assorted chocolates here Hold on michelle. So kathy tell us where the so I don't think of you as a Chocolate maker. So are you partnering with somebody on that? No, it's us. Um So again back to the food allergies because obviously everything revolves around my kids because I don't do anything else But we're a good parent. Um I was spending a fortune having chocolate shipped in from out of state that were allergy safe and um I thought you know what I could do this So we um, we started just a small line of chocolates. Nothing super fancy. It's more geared for Kids and we have a few things that adults are like would like like such as hot cocoa bombs. That's what the heart is Yeah, I was gonna see look and is that like edible gold leaf on there? Dang girl. That's like fancy I can try that It's a that pink is a um a ruby belgium chocolate. It's super rare. It actually grows and when it's processed It comes out that pink color Oh, wow Before we go on, I just want to say to lori who's watching. Thank you I I would love lori if you have any comments about um, you know If you've already delivered the popcorn or not looks like they're easter baskets So probably not quite yet But uh, it sounds like you're pretty excited to get those and hopefully kathy you remember this order I absolutely do. Thank you very much lori Yeah, so that's great. Um, michelle. What kind of popcorn do we have in there? So I For the folks watching I've actually had this popcorn. It's amazing. Is that the caramel? This is the caramel So is it salted chocolate caramel and marshmallow peak? I like this like the marshmallow people. It's really pretty it sticks together a little bit Do you have to give it a little squeeze? Yeah, it's like chewy. I like the texture of this really good Yeah, thank you so much kathy Unfortunately, they'll be gone tomorrow. We'll have a sugar high in a little bit All right, so so what's so interesting about kathy is you are a serial entrepreneur Um, I don't know if you did something before the cake business But you get the cakes we've moved on to popcorn And now we have a brand new venture which when you first described it to me, I'm gonna be honest um, I thought You meant like a room You know in Sarver I couldn't picture what it was that you were imagining and when I finally found out just yesterday Um, I was absolutely blown away. So tell us what avenue in Sarver is where it's at What building you guys are taking over because I think folks are going to know this building Yeah, I'm going to be pretty impressed. So go for it. Um, so we have acquired the old peer v's barn on ecstown road And um, it had a fantastic reputation huge following. It was a staple in this area Um, Dean and terry did a great job with it for years and then decided it was time to start slowing down And um enjoying life a little more and so just being in the wedding industry for so long I saw a great opportunity. Um, the building is 150 years old and We still have a lot of All their beams are original. They're they're exposed So you have all of that rustic charm of a building that is a historic building But you also have heat and air conditioning and indoor plumbing, which is I always joke. Nobody over 40 wants to go to a wedding that doesn't have heat or ac Yeah, that's true And for for anyone out there that's watching right now If you've ever been to peter b's if you want to throw something in the comments, maybe your favorite memory out there I think it'd be great to to let the former owners know that we still love and had a lot of good memories out there I know michelle and I went out and saw many bands there over the years. We you know had too many pretzels Now that I know that I'm I'm allergic to gluten. I probably shouldn't have had any of those pretzels But hey, that's where I'm at and I I was really thankful that you you shared a few Snapshot us of what you're changing inside So I've got a few pictures of what it looked like inside it in peter b's that we can look at and as we look at that Maybe you can describe what you're changing up Okay, absolutely, but we haven't we haven't really released any sneak peeks of the inside. We have Been busy little bees in there, but um We haven't released too many pictures yet. So I'm more than happy to tell you what we're doing. Absolutely Terrific. So is this a tap that was there already and you cleaned up or is this not new Dean actually built it and it is beautiful and we knew that we had to keep the tap because You you could just the workmanship You just can't find that anymore and he did an amazing job and it really is a a wow Piece you walk in you're like, oh my goodness that that's beautiful And um, it's a work of art. So we decided we did keep the tap system I like it. I don't remember it being that shiny to be honest. So I don't remember Well, it's a lot brighter in there now because we've added um six windows and two sets of french doors So and painted everything white. So it um, it's night. It's a very airy in there now On that Okay stairway. Is this the stairway up to the balcony? Yes So that goes up stairs to the loft and all of the wood paneling. Um, it's amazing How quickly wood paneling can go to can convert to ship lap And I stroke a paintbrush Yeah, a little more than a stroke of a paintbrush. It was very very time consuming My husband and my partner Jess did an amazing job Just really bringing it Just lightening it. I feel like bringing it to Just to follow our vision of we're looking for Again modern or the rustic charm with more of a some modern touches All right, and So I'm seeing like a lot of like black and white. Is that the theme the color themes you went with? Um, or is that not black and I'm just seeing no that is I actually did make that picture black and white Um, we did paint the walls white the wood panel or the the all the wood. Um, we painted I want to say it's called cafe latte Maybe it's I don't know Jess. I know Jess is on here watching post what The name it's really pretty Um, but other things that we're doing so when we went in we obviously didn't need a bar that large for an event venue Um, so we removed the bar but again kept the tap system and we also removed the stage Um, we found that under the stage in the bar was just that floor So we have replaced that floor and actually our very last project will be to have a comedy command And and refinish them and then stay in them all So it's one cohesive look. Um, you can see the original beams there Um that t in the middle that that is a 150 year old beam, which is right Oh white flower. Oh white flower. What color is the paneling? Jess? You said natural tan Oh natural tan. Okay Where would I be without her? You would be with a different tan color. It would be horrible. I have no idea She is the more artistic one. She has the eye for things And I'm I'm more of the marketing the sales again. Again, just like with my partnership with less Just the perfect combination Yeah, um other things that we're doing and it had a Just a drop ceiling that we are actually Okay, so right here. This was where the bar was at and this is under the hayloft. I'm sorry. I shit I'm pointing and I'm getting I talk with my hands too much, but we actually just covered the that um that ceiling And we're going with wood and we're going to paint it white and then we're going to have like a coffered um Oh, that'll look beautiful to it The beams that'll add a nice architectural detail to this space. Yeah So as a mother of a 23 year old daughter, I have so many questions. Yes So what is your vision or are what is parking like? What are the bathrooms like? How many people can it hold? Did you say you took the stage out? Are you keeping the stage? We took the stage out. Um Tons of parking huge parking lot And we seeded we're looking right around about 150. Um, we there's a beautiful patio off off the back end Where we're looking at now. Um, it's 30 by 40. Eventually we would like to enclose that as well um What I'm so sorry. What other questions did you I think I think what is the max capacity in there? We're looking at about 125 seated. Um, but if standing room for like corporate events and such, um, they can I think dean told me it was like three and our 50 Oh So is there a kitchen there? Do people bring their own catering? Are you going to have people that they have to use like how is that going to work? We do have a full kitchen. Um, which is nice. A lot of especially barn venues That's just something that they don't have. Um, I feel like we have a just a handful of things that are really going to help set us apart One being a fully equipped kitchen Um, we do have three caters that are on a preferred vendor list But if someone just really wants to use another caterer, we would just need to um to vet them first Our main concern or two main concerns are one We offer cleanup is part of our wedding package because at the end of the night nobody wants to stay and clean up and um If I don't want to have to then clean the kitchen too So, um, I just want to make sure whoever comes in respects our space And the other thing is you want to make sure that they have a good reputation because if someone God forbid would get food poisoning or something. They won't know that it's abc caterer They'll just think that it's I got sick at avenues arbor and um, so we just really want to preserve our reputation We're really trying to build something that is Is helpful and It makes it as easy as possible for a bride and groom I actually have a printout that um that we use and it says whatever you do don't call the bride and groom And it's a list of all the groomsmen all the bridesmaids their cell phone numbers the parents Siblings I love that all the gators or the vendors I want to make this a day the brides and grooms spend so much money and time for basically One day if that A portion of the day I want them to truly be able to relax and enjoy the moment And not have to worry about all the little details Well, I love this idea. I think it's a great location. There's not a lot around there and it looks like it has a ton of character Yeah, and I know you're well. It's beautiful space Thank you. I'm excited I don't know about you new michelle But I know the first thing I'm thinking about when I see that and all the touches in there he's getting in there doing a a kind of a more um scripted Video for these guys about the space Answering some of those questions because I think heather had really good questions You know the the same things we would be asking For a wedding venue, right? How many people do you see? How many do you stand? Where's the parking? My grandmother's in a wheelchair. Can she actually get into this place? AC is a big deal. I know our daughter was getting a place. I don't think it had a c if I remember right and it was in the south Very as a northerner is very very worried about that Yeah, we actually just updated the hbac system. We now have 20 tons of air conditioning So I keep joking we could pretty much air condition all of sarva at this point But my main thing is if one goes down, I want to be able to Keep things smooth and cool and going just as normal. So Certain things such as air conditioning. It's always better to go a little a little overboard on If something would unfortunately fail we have backup in place already That's right and I think I had the right address But can you confirm if people want to see more about the space and I understand you haven't released a lot of the internal pictures yet But they want to get information drop your line ask you if a data is available Can we all do that on this website here? Absolutely? There is a contact form and we've actually been doing tours We've been scheduling tours. We've had five couples book already, which is very exciting. Well, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you It's um, it's always, you know nerve-wracking when you start your own business, especially as you're still Kind of in the midst of of the world that we now live in and with the pandemic But I am very very excited. Um, I miss being in the wedding industry. I tend to thrive on that crazy ridiculous Excitement nervous energy When is it going to be done? I'm sorry It's supposed to be done. Um, we'll the first phase will be done in the beginning of June We're actually going to host an open house. So make sure you follow us on facebook uh and instagram and um, we will be posting about that. So we will have vendors. We hope to get some food trucks um Just so people can walk through see how the space has changed um, and just just have a fun afternoon just to enjoy the fruits of our labor because um A lot has gone into this I know that you have been pouring your heart into it because I remember you mentioning it and Uh, I just can't believe how far you've gotten to a point where you're you're really close to opening up I'm I'm excited for you and You know, this show is about giving folks like you people that are building businesses and communities the opportunity to share You know, what it is that that we're building and how the community can become a part of it So if anyone out there is getting married you need a business event What what what it would happen if I only need a piece of the venue because if I remember right when I was in that restaurant Or you know, Peter B's it was very wide open. Um, you know, there wasn't rooms Blocked off. Yeah, what if I need a smaller space? Am I able to rent just a piece of it? Or how does that well? As luck would have it. Um, we actually signed a lease on another space the other day so you Not So you're you got Peter B's we have Peter B's and now we um have and that's avenue and Sarver and um, We are now launching second avenue and Sarver and it is a smaller space. It has a more industrial feel um cement really cool cement floors um exposed duct work that type of thing and um We are able to Seat What did just tell me I think 125 she told me We've already booked two events for that. I don't even know what's going on at this point. I feel like I just completely lost Now I have a question for you. Um, is somebody requests Are you going to do one of your giant cakes that you were selling before? Would you ever go back into that kind of ties in there? I think um, well, I can't I don't have a license bakery now and I think that my husband would um He would probably end up in therapy if I told him I was coming to bake another cake I honestly his birthday cake so the day after the show aired I announced I was closing the bakery because it was just time with our family um, it was time for me to step back From so it was because it was just me. I had ever I touched every aspect of that business I didn't have an assistant. I didn't have like nothing. I did everything I did everything from taking the order baking it decorating it and delivering it and um Yeah, I think that my my husband would not Be too pleased. I actually bought his birth his birthday cake was from sam's club last year Nothing like your wife winning a food network show and then she buys you a sam's club birthday cake I know this kind of reminds me of what I imagine after those shows like that move that bus show And the house is all beautiful, but a week later. It's just a disaster inside, you know This is the one clean spot I could have this in I just imagine that the cake show, you know, this beautiful cake everyone's loving it, you know in the next week someone's getting a A flat sheet cake from sam's club My husband I actually took a picture and I was going to post on social media because it was so funny but I just couldn't I couldn't bring myself to do it, but it was funny Well, I want to thank you for joining us um So for for the folks out there in pittsburgh, you've got kathy and jessica who are investing in sarber They're they're putting heart soul I'm sure tons of actual hard cash On the table to make an amazing venue for for those of us here in pittsburgh in and around pittsburgh I didn't even know about second. Uh, what was it called? second avenue and sarver second avenue and sarver so We've got a great big venue that we can now Rent out and I know that michelle and I will look forward to doing that with one of um, you know as we host a show there Actually on location and and have people in I think that'd be a lot of fun. And then for the smaller groups I am imagining bridal showers. I think you mentioned and And just smaller business meetings have now a place to go and sarver. Absolutely and another thing that Originally, jess and I were just going to do the smaller space And um, and then we came across peter bees and Of course your mind starts going in a million directions or million miles an hour of all the things that we could do But with the smaller space one of our plans is just to have events there for the community um, my husband and I lived Eight miles north of downtown for eight year or fifth. Yeah, I was 15 minutes from downtown mcnight rodinson and um in cranberry and um, we got spoiled having so much all around and um, we decided that jess and I would like to have community nights where we have karaoke nights You know, maybe we have a 21 and over cards against humanity night where a winery will come in because we don't have a liquor license So winery could come in we're right next to seller work so people can walk over and and get a beer and um, just a place where people can come and hang out and laugh and Just relax for a few hours I love it Well, thank you so much. It has been great to see you again. It's so good to see you both And I can't believe all the businesses that you've done. I mean this is exciting to see what you're going to do next retire Yeah, right? I don't know as well Definitely. Yeah Well, great for those that are still watching. I just want to take a moment and introduce our next show So next week. So we we host the living pittsburgh show every uh, thursday at 8 15 p.m. Eastern standard time next week We're going to meet john john is with um, actually started a nonprofit called pittsburgh good deeds And what is unique about this nonprofit is they they don't charge money. So if you need You know a roof or house I'm not sure we're going to learn all about it next week on on how you might qualify to get them to come out and help you But I think of it as kind of like a handyman service where where they help people out in desperate need Whether it be plumbing or putting in a window or or helping with the door or something like that So we're going to learn more together next week, uh, which i'm pretty excited about So, um, everyone. Thank you very much for You know joining us for another show. Um, I Kathy it's always wonderful to talk with you. Thank you so much And thank you for having me. We wish you the best of luck with your your new project Well, thank you and may again make sure um, you make it out to our open house. So you can Check out the transformation We can't wait to see it. Have a great day everyone. Thank you