 That's good. Okay. We didn't need to record all the previous. Oh, you know, we didn't need all that. Okay. So we are recording now. I'm going to officially start the meeting and hopefully others will join us soon. And our first agenda item is to review minutes. So I'm going to open the minutes of the 22nd of July. And share my screen. Okay. And you can all see those minutes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Does anyone, Tom or Chris or even Adele, if you do, you can always suggest it and we'll just vote on it. But does anyone have any. Revision to the agenda. I'm sorry to the minutes of July 22nd. I do not. I reviewed them. I thought they were excellent. Appreciate the support. Yeah, Darcy takes really good minutes. Okay. So you're both. So I need one of you to make a motion. I will move that we accept the minutes of. What is this? This is July 22nd. 22. I will second it. Okay. In favor Thompson. Yes. In favor Mason. And I am also in favor. So. Those are approved. Okay. And then the minutes of. August 4th. So just give me a minute to open those as well. I moved the minutes from August 4th, 2022. I will second. I've also reviewed them and I will second it. Right now we can have discussion. So. Well, I wanted to make sure. Before we, I just wanted to make sure nobody had any revisions. First. That can come up during discussion. And then you can do it. You might have to modify your, but. Okay. Okay. Discussion about the minutes of August 4th. I've reviewed them and I'm fine with it as is. Again, I appreciate the support. Okay. You're welcome. Welcome. Okay. I missed Darcy. Those were me. Okay. Then should we have a boat? Chris. Mason. Tom. Approve. And I also approve the minutes of August 4th. Okay. Good. That's done. So, Andrew, thanks for joining us. Thank you. All right, I'm going to open the education and outreach plan. And this should be the most recent one with all three communities additions. So I will share my screen. And. All right. So really the only thing I think that we need to go over. Are the outreach and contact lists that we've put together here. So I'm going to go ahead and share some of the additional information that you all have since. You edited these, this document. But just for everybody else's benefit. I reached out to our director of communications. Who gave me some additional information on agencies and publications to insert. And I believe Chris reached out to the mayor's office. And he's sent the. Select board. So we can do what we identify here is what the minimum that we can do. We can always do more, but we can't do less. So I guess I want to make sure that we're all on board about these. as is page through some more. Yep. So this is social media. And then television stations. radio stations. Right here. Oh, I see. Yep. And then local radio stations and freelance reporters is not something we typically had. Yeah, they're on North Hampton's standard list. So I included them. Yep. They don't call them freelance reporters, but that's the only way I could define it. Okay, that works. And then web news agencies. So, why would we want to reach out for CCA purposes to the Massachusetts Municipal Association? Well, for one thing they have information that goes out to all of the communities. So if we want to bring other communities on board to join the CCA, that's a great way to get the word out. Well, yeah, but that's not what we would be doing. Initially, initially we're only targeting our three communities. So I think it would be premature to get a whole lot of other communities interested in joining us at that point. Yeah, I wasn't clear. I mean, this seems to be like an inclusive outreach plan for the program. So I'm not sure if it's like just only the initial stage. Let's see. Sorry, I'm going to scroll up here. Our contractor is only contracted for the initial stage. They're not, you know, they're there. It's a three year contract, right? Right. So I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I think that's my personal opinion. Okay. So does that mean that folks want to lose? Well, then are there other. Organizations that we like any PR. It seems like a, an exhaustive list, which I think is great to have for ourselves, but not for this document. I would cut it way down. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I don't think we should be running it way down. Is right now these are. Standard lists that, you know, the city just. They know how to do this. Boom. Get the word out. If it. I mean, if it hurts us to get the word out too broadly, then I could see that. But if it doesn't matter. Then it's just included. Then why not. And that, you know, for us to basically have to say. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. I don't think we should be reaching out to other communities. You're on. I'm assuming, you know, when I went to the mayor. That. That that's, that's their standard list. That's what they normally send out to. I still don't think. We need to list them all though. What if we miss one and, you know, you could take some out and still just send out the. You're right. You could, because you could still do the standard lists. Yeah. Just done more. Yeah. I just think this is overkill. I mean, it doesn't matter if it doesn't create more work to do it all, but. Yeah. So I would take, I would take out the two Sufa signs. I mean. What are Sufa signs? They're these kind of electronic signs. They're fine. On Main Street. Good. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it was on the mayor's list. I wouldn't. I mean, it doesn't matter if it doesn't create more work to, to do it all, but. Yeah, it was on the mayor's list. I would never have thought to add this. Okay. Well, we, like Andrew said, we, we can put the message on the Sufa signs, but we don't have to include it in this. Right. And when I, when I included in this, I have to say, I. I thought, how do I go about this? How do I actually make this happen? Anything on the Sufa sign. We have Sufa signs too. But I didn't include that. I didn't include it on this list. I think you can take out via local signage as well. Yeah. So. Okay. And then you're saying. Get rid of MMA. I mean, like you said, we could always just do it. Just not included on this list. Tom, you have a question. I'm sorry. I didn't see your hand. No problem. I mean, basically I'm not opposed to anything anybody saying, like, is it too big? I think the goal here is to get a document before that's going to get approved. So to the extent that these things are. As Chris was saying, like, you know, part of standard operating procedure and not something extra. And it strengthens our outreach, even if it's beyond our three communities. I don't know, Paul Groomer might be able to tell us better, but it seems like it's good to have a bigger list than a smaller list knowing that the bigger the list is, the more we're obligating ourselves to, as you said at the beginning of this. So I'm okay with cutting it down. And in the context of knowing that it's not going to hurt our chances of getting approved and we're cutting something down that we're actually going to do anyway. Yeah, I guess. My take is that. You know, we can include these agencies, like if any municipality, I mean, for whatever reason, Amherst might want to reach out to the MMA. Our town manager was the former executive director. So, you know, there's kind of a relationship there with them. So, you know, he may still want to and not that it matters, but you know, he might still want to at least let alert people that we're doing this. Maybe it's not specifically to do the outreach about getting people to sign on, but just to alert people that we're doing this. I don't, I think you should copy this whole list. And save it somewhere as the exhaustive list. And then leave on who, you know, and anyone, all of them, half of them, it doesn't really matter. Because we can always do more. Yeah, I'm going to save. Yeah, I'm going to save. I'm making edits now, but I want to save this as a separate document so that we'll have the one, the version that has everything. We'll have the list that has everything. So we'll have both. And up above in the under the radio, you have WHMP listed twice. Small matter, but you know, easy to delete one. Yeah. Do you. So I want to go back to MMA. Am I deleting that now? Yeah, delete it. Okay. Why did it. It didn't track. Okay. That's interesting. Because you, you added it. Oh, yeah. So you're not changing someone else's document. All right. Well, I'm saving. I've got the other, I've got this for the original version of this one. So I'll just save it as version five. Anything else here. Any PR. Mass live. Like, do we need those? Those are all public. I mean, those are all news. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have it as a news agency, a web news agency, but then we've got it as radio stations. Real. Because they have a web presence, obviously. And I mean, as do all of them really. Can I assume that. All's team is going to actually do the final edits on this. I sure hope so. Well, they're not going to edit. I mean, yeah, if something's repeat, yeah, they will, they're, they're going to clean this up. But they're not going to edit. Which contacts, but in terms of the formatting, I'm sure they'll clean it up. Yeah. And also, you know, something being repeated twice. Yeah. Well, I just got rid of one. So. Yeah. I think we're good. So what I'm not seeing here is the list serves. Are they somewhere else? Yeah. This is just this. Yeah. There's like, there's two, two or three places where we had to put contacts in some of its repetitive and some of it's not. So I'm just going to the top. I just want to go to the top here to make sure if there's anything else that folks think they want to. Take out. So. I think we're good with. What's the reminder? What's. Who's. Is that North Hampton? That would have been you. Oh, then I have no, I have no idea what that is. It's a free paper that. Okay. I think you're saying remind me of what the reminder is. Exactly. Who is who puts that out? Do you know, Andrew? I don't even know. Okay. I didn't. Well, yeah, Briana does. She's our communications director. So she knows all of this. Commercial thing. I don't know. Okay. Well, I'll obviously leave it in then. Okay. Social media. I think we're good with. Local news agencies. Radio stations. These freelance reporters. Yes. I guess. I mean, they seem so specific. I'm just wondering. Like it's very, you could take them out if you want. I mean, they'll, they will be included on the mayor's outreach. If we ever do it, but I'm fine to be taken out. Okay. I don't think it'll hurt us whatsoever to take. Yeah. I'm just thinking, let's take these out. But we have them on. We have another list that has everything. So. Yeah. Okay. Here's Dennis Hackett works at the reminder. So maybe he can tell us. Here we go. So you had it too. I suspect Tom, the Dennis Hackett is the reminder. Okay. Let's see news agencies. Okay. So. So moving down now, this is more. Partnering agencies that we. Have contact with and work with. So. I'd like to make sure. We're not missing anybody on this list. Or if we think there are ones we should take off. I don't think I put anything in here. And the only thing I would say is that I, you know, I think that it may, it may be worth adding the. I don't know if this is the right place, but it seems like it is. I really don't think so. This is partners. Any. That's fine. I added climate growth in North Hampton, but I think that that could be deleted. I mean, we may reach out to them anyway, but it's certainly not. Big deal. You could say the same for many of these things. I thought real food North Hampton was. You're right. It doesn't seem like it's. It would be an important one to reach out to. I hate to have them drop off. Well, I think we would reach out to them anyway, but, but if you want to leave it on the list, sure. I have no problem with that. I mean, we're not saying that we will send press releases out to these guys. These are just. Who we're going to reach out to when we want to basically get the word out of stuff. What about valley time trade? What is that? Is that still exist? I don't know what it is. It was an organization where people couldn't, you know, trade time, you know, like I'll, I'll break your garden if you'll. So my, you know, do my mending or whatever. So is that really a group? We want to keep on here though as like a. I have to. I don't think so. And I'm not even sure that they still exist. Okay. I want to take them off, but we can put it up. Who put it on? I don't know. It's green. So it seems like it was me, but I don't. I don't remember that. I don't know who they are either. That might have just come, you know, you got it from the mayor's office. Like some of the things that I have, I don't even know. All this stuff right here. I mean, Northampton area chamber of commerce. I just added, but the Northampton neighborhood associations. Those were all from our heat smart and solar eyes outreach. And unfortunately there's. At the current moment, there is no ward for. Northampton listserv. Yeah. So there may be some of these, you know, I haven't kept track of all of them. Are they still up to date? So. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm in work for, and there is no listserv, which is. Is that going to hurt us? If you know, we reach out and say, oh, they're no longer here. I don't know the answer. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think it's just a matter. Like again, it's just a matter of this is the minimum outreach we're going to do. So that they can see we've thought about it. And that we have a sufficient. Pathway of getting the word out. Yeah. So I think. This is probably fine if they're not. If they don't exist anymore. You know, we don't have all of the. Amherst. District. You know, association listservs here. Why don't we just say. Neighborhood associations. Yeah. Neighborhood associations. And then I said, for, you know, EG, for example. Can I get rid of all of this extra though, Chris. And maybe, and even get rid of North Hampton and just. Have neighborhood associations. Yeah. I mean, you still might want to just include it. EG. You know. You know, it's too much. Okay. If they, if they know what it is. That's fine. Go ahead Adele. I'm trying to find the North Hampton neighbors on here. And I don't see it listed, but it should be for sure. Because they have a very active listserv. Okay. Is that it? Is that the. Yeah. I mean, you still might want to just include it. EG. You know. No, it's too much. It's too much. It's too much. Is that the. Is that different under neighborhood associations? It's not a neighborhood association. It's all of North Hampton. Anybody can join it. Who's I think over the age of 50. But it's very active. And I would definitely want to reach out to them. All right. And it's called North Hampton neighbors. Yeah. We have something like that too. I think it's basically to help us older people remain in their homes by having resources to reach out to. So it's different than next door neighbor and neighbor to neighbor. Right. Yes. Very different. Okay. What about two degrees? What is that? It's a, it's a North Hampton. Climate organization. Obviously we will keep them. They're active. Are they active though? Is that an active? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. North Hampton community resilience. I mean, I think there's. There isn't really a physical. Resilience of yet. There certainly is a big group that are meeting. So maybe we take that out because we don't. If it's people meeting, you want to reach them. Right. So. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, it's not a, I mean, a resilience hub generally first to a building, but they. Has to have something physical and it's not there yet. Do they have a listserv? No, as far as I know, it is just a loose collection of emails that all these people are included. I mean, there's a lot of other organizations that we will. Remember come up with. Again, we just need our minimum. We don't need to be. It doesn't have to be exhausted. I mean, I think we are not. Needing this level of detail. In our. Discussion. I mean, there's a lot of other organizations that we. Will. Remember. Come up with. Yeah. Again, we just need our minimum. We don't need to be. It doesn't have to be exhaustive. It just needs to be a minimum. So. Actually just exemplars. So. So you might want to remove that one since it doesn't officially exist anyway. If it doesn't exist, then I'm going to get rid of it. Community action, Valley community development. Is there anything. That comes to your mind that you don't see that you think we should include. What is Highland Valley elder services? Is that different from the other. I see it shows up twice. Okay. I'm going to get rid of it. So it's both Northampton and Amherst put that in there. Okay. So. My understanding is it's just another area organization that assists elders, but I don't know much about it. But it sounds like it's a Valley effort, not just specific to one or the other community. And why would we include the center for new Americans? Do they have a listserv? Center for new Americans say they provide services to. Individuals English is a second language. Yeah. Immigrants. So. Definitely an audience that they want us to reach out to. Okay. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, thinking that they might not all be from Amherst, Pellum or Northampton. I am assuming that they draw from a much larger area, but that's okay. My concern is located in Northampton. And we can, we can always ask them to at least provide information for members of those three communities. Because this is something that could basically save them. You know, money and energy, and we want to encourage them to be involved. So. Are there any organizations that you think. Again, are. Missing that actually do reach a very specific population. That we don't have listed. I guess we could try to reach students. The five area colleges or. Well, I guess that includes. Four area colleges. You say local colleges and universities. Are we reaching out to the universities themselves? Or are we reaching out to their students? I would think we are providing information to the universities to distribute to their students. I don't think there's going to be a pathway for us to. Directly outreach to students. Unless we go through student organizations, like. You know, there's certainly climate groups within. The universities and we could try to reach them that way. But we probably reach more if we go through. Normal. I'm just concerned if we're adding things to this document. That would become requirements. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. I agree. And I think we will probably. Try to send. Information to. To selected groups of students, but I don't think we should add that to this list. Okay. I want to get that up. Wait. That's didn't say students. Those to the university. The colleges. I know. I thought you said, take it off the. The list because it's something we could do, but it's not something we want to identify. As doing here. Yeah. I think, I think I've noticed that. Correct me if wrong. We'll probably will reach out to students, but we don't have to list it. We don't have to list colleges and universities. Yeah. So we'll do it. We just don't have to have it on here. Good. I'm adding that to the list though. I'm making notes here. Anything else. That seems to be missing. I'm all set. I'm good. You're good. Dell. And or anything else. No. Okay. All right. So all, all I think that was added was the. Amherst double NAACP. I think that was, I think that was all I added. So just to make sure we have one exhaustive list. So. You added North Hampton neighbors as well. Okay. Thank you. Then moving on. So as we got down farther, it seemed to be kind of duplicating. I stopped putting stuff in. And made the suggestion that. You think they're going to be duplicated. Should we just put it like an appendix? So the problem is though, that I think they want to know specifically what we're doing for specific pieces of this. So the first part. That's that bigger list. Was just about outreach for the aggregation. And then this is just, I think about. Press releases, which isn't. It's some of the same, but not all of the same. And I don't know why they want us to sort of drill down and be more specific, but. Do they want us to be more specific here? They just, it's just repetitive. It is, but they, but that was pointed out to us when we had the meeting. I think. Was it Marlena Marlene Marlena? I forget her. Her name. That works with Paul. Had said that it's repetitive. She said that you will have a lot of the same information here. So, so I haven't moved stuff down. And I don't think Tom has either. So I guess. No, I didn't do it either. I stopped at the first section. Okay. Yeah. Cause it looks like we could just copy and paste from above down here. Press releases announcements. It's the same list. I don't think. Pretty much. So I'm leaving tomorrow. And I'll be gone. Through the 15th. So if you two would. Kindly take a look at this and. Add those things in. I greatly appreciate it. Sure. And just add the ones that you had from above that you didn't put down here. Just copy and stick them down here. That would be great. Let me know when you're done, Tom. So we're not working separately. You can go first. I'll take the second step. Sounds good. I'll do it. Okay. Great. Yeah. Chris, do you. When do you think you would be able to. To do that? Would you be able to do it today? I'm just thinking then I can. Send it off with a message to Paul's team that like, you know, here it is. So that we can maybe schedule a meeting with them for when I return. Right. Tom, can you. Are you going to get to it today? I will. And so. I think Stephanie, I. I don't think I'm going to be able to do it today. I'm not going to be able to do it today. And so. I think Stephanie, I. Do we want to add it to a, which version do should I start with? I guess is my question. The prior one or what we've done here. Yeah, probably this one. So I'll, I'm going to, I'll save this. As version five right now. This is version four that we're looking at. I'll save it as version five. I'll do it. I'll try to get it. I've got a call at noon. I'll try to get it to you by two or three o'clock today. Let's say three o'clock today, Chris. But then I won't be able to work on it. That point. So maybe I should start. Okay. Okay. And then I'll flip it back to you. Hopefully by three. Maybe earlier, but. As soon as I get it from Chris, as soon as I get off my noon call. If I get it from you by around noon 30 or one, Chris, I should be able to get it back to Stephanie. I don't know when you're planning on working on it. Yeah, I'm going to, this will be one of the last things today, probably that I'll send out to Paul Gromar's team and sort of ask them when they want to, you know, we can, we can schedule a meeting at the end of this one. And then we can talk about that as a next step. Good. So I just want to finish this piece. So, okay. So you two are going to add your stuff here. And is that true for these other sections too? Yes. Has to be. Okay. All right. Okay. Then I think. Once you get that back. I guess I want to just ask. Adele and Andrew and just make sure. That they're good with the list of what they've seen so far in terms of outreach. And if there's anything else. Like I'm looking at the faith based organizations here did not, they did not, did not appear above. So do we have. Are we good there? This is for outreach to community organizations. And this is about the program launch and program details. So it's a press release basically. That we're sending out to all of these folks. And so faith based organizations were included. To get the word out because a lot of community members obviously a part of these. Can we not list them. There's way too many. It'd be very easy to leave. Yeah. Would they be okay with us just saying said to faith based organizations. Okay. I'll take these out. I'm asking that question. I don't know. Well, what I'm saying is I'll take them out. They'll still exist in version four. I'll take them out here and then we'll have them. Or at least Chris, maybe you. You can always add them in. I can always have any of the synagogues I noticed. So let's not have faith based organizations because who knows what we could leave out. Yeah. I mean, it's such as. So that's why I'm asking you. Well, that's why I'm asking you, can we. Add like leave them out. Well, we, for the neighborhood associations, we decided just to go with the statement neighborhood associations and not include as such as. It makes me very uncomfortable to think of. Not putting in. You know, not having certain ones in the list. No, I hear you. I just, you know. I don't know. I don't know. We can't be exhausted. So let's not list them. Well, then I want to make sure when we do that, that we're as exhaustive as we can be. I hope we will be, but let's not list them. So that bracketed phrase list organization names. That didn't come from. Marlon. Nope, that came from them. It says that it's from you, Stephanie, but, but I think you're right. It came from them. No, it's I, the formatted I, I deleted the list organization names and then started listing them. That's what came from me. Okay. List or anything that says list is what they included. Yeah. So they want us to list something here. Yes. And that was from faith based organizations. They want us to list the organization names. Yes. But it says such as. So it's not exhaustive. I mean. Like that's, that's why it says such as it's not, this is an exhaustive list. I'm so, so offensive to leave out, you know, anybody I hear you, we don't know. So please just leave it as it is. And if they insist on us putting. Some example churches. That's ridiculous, but then do it. Well, we'll send it to them as is in this version. If they ask for it, we'll include them and we'll have to be, we'll have to do our best to find, you know, as many as we absolutely can. And they have a lot of these such as. You could just say such as churches, synagogues, mosques. Yeah, actually I like that. Oops. I spelled synagogues wrong. Sorry. So no, so no, I always, that's an AO thing. Yeah. Anything else? Churches, synagogues, mosques, what? ETC. What's it? Oh. I was like, what's ETC? I don't know that we're going to, that. Religious group. Etc. Okay. Okay. All right. Yeah. I like that, Andrew. Thank you. And then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And I think. I think that was all we had to fill in. Sorry. For the quick scrolling. This is just our website. Address when we get it. But wait, there's more. Yeah. Okay. We'll be adding ours. Stuff. Yep. And it still says valley green alliance. In multiple places. That's what they typed in, I think. I didn't type that in. They did. Why is that bad? We are valley green alliance, aren't we? No, not yet. Not yet. We will be though. I think they, that was like, we're going to be. Yeah. They were writing that as if we were going to have it done by the time they submit it, I think. Yes. Because that's what the objective is. As for us to be valley green alliance before this goes in. Okay. So let's see. I'm just making sure I'm sorry for the. Motion sickness here. I think we're good. I think that's it. Okay. All right. Send them my way. Okay. Let me just save this as version five. Here. I'll stop sharing. So you don't have to. Watch this. Okay. So the next thing is to schedule our next meeting after. So Chris and Tom will do their additions. I will send this off to. Paul Groomer and his crew. And we'll schedule our next meeting. Can we. Can we talk about where, where are our paperwork for the valley green alliances? Is it still with the lawyers? It's still with the lawyers. I. Yeah. It's been so unclear to, it feels unclear to me. Sorry. I'm just trying to do two things at once here. It feels a little unclear to me as to where. Things stand like, I thought Rick seemed clear. Alan seemed less so. And I think there was some confusion. On Alan's part, maybe about the. MOU versus the JP. A document. So I think we need to just schedule a meeting with him. So. I can do that as soon as I can. I can do that as soon as I can. I can send out a. Maybe a doodle poll with some dates. To try to see if we can get Alan and. Rick to be on the same page. So Chris and Tom, are there days and times that work better for you? I'd say just make a few suggestions. To respond to. Well, just like I, I don't, you know, if you know there's like Tuesdays don't ever work. I just want to know if there's a day that doesn't work. Tom, what about you? I know you're traveling a lot to you. Yeah, I don't. Unfortunately. And so I'm not even in the same time zone. So. Okay. When I'm, when I'm out West. Earlier start, like I'd rather get on the phone. Look, my local time at six or seven in the morning. So. Okay. So for you. Like a nine o'clock meeting is. Nine or. Almost always nine o'clock. Almost always is preferable for me. Okay. That's good to know that's helpful. All right. Great. All right. I will send that out. Right after this meeting and see if we can nail something down with them. I'm gone till the 15th. So it'll be after that. It would be, you know, either the week of the 19th or the week of the 26th, hopefully no later than that. And then we would be able to have an update. So as far as the next meeting for us, I mean, at this point, we kind of are passing this off to Paul's team and they're going to be doing some work. There's not going to be a lot for us to do necessarily. Right now. So do we want to schedule the next meeting that would be with them? I'm up for trying. The week you get back. I am going to be on the West coast all week. So that week, the nine a.m. East coast start time would be best for me. Of the 19th. Yeah, the week of the 19th. Yes. But it does seem like. Go ahead. On our plate. Getting the Valley Green Alliance. Up and running. You know, once, because this is, we provided Paul with the outreach and education plan. I mean, I'd ask him. What else? You know, we'll be our next step for it between him and his team. Because we're going to be doing some work. We're going to be doing some work. We're going to be doing some work. We're going to be doing some work. What else, you know, we'll be our next step for it between him and his team. Between us and his team. And if there isn't really a next step for a while. Then we should be focused on the Valley Green Alliance. Yeah, which is what we're going to be doing. When we talk, which is what we're going to. Right. Right. And that's what we're going to be trying to do. Right. I'm just trying to think, you know, what's, what's our reason for holding a meeting? And hopefully that'll move forward. And then we'll have a reason to meet. Well, so should I hold off on scheduling that meeting with Paul and team until after we talk to Rick. And Alan. I'm just not sure if one, once we get the education outreach plan. Paul and team. What's. I want to hear from them. What is the next step? Right. For us because there isn't really a next step right away then. And I think we. Yeah. And Paul and team. They don't care about us working with Alan and Rick. Yeah, no, that's separate. Yeah, Adele, go ahead. I'm sorry. You keep trying to speak. Well, the two things one is. I don't think we should wait on meeting with Paul. It's at all. We should keep momentum going. And the other thing is that we, you know, we haven't done any work on our, on our website. And I think that's a pretty high priority. At some point we're going to have to have a website. So why don't we start working on it? Partly because Paul. This team is going to build a website for us. Oh, for the, yeah, they're doing that for the CCA. But are you talking about Valley Green Alliance Adele? Cause that's separate. Those are, there's two websites that we need. One is just for the CCA, but then there's Valley Green Alliance. And that's the one you're talking about. Yes. Okay. I mean, part of it for me is that it doesn't exist yet. Although I know we don't have to publish it live. We just need to start building it. So I am going to say right off that that is not going to be anything that I'm going to be able to do. I know I can't. My plate is overflowing right now. Well, we'll, we'll kick that can down the road again. I mean, we have shifted from an all volunteer group to someone who's hired a team. And now for the Alliance, but for Valley Green Energy. Right. Well, and also it's still unclear to me like once, because once. The contract, the JPA gets signed. Once it's executed, it's in effect. So that means that how we meet and all of that changes, right? It's sort of like how it even did when we signed the MOU. Like suddenly we became, we had to keep minutes. And so that structure. Of the JPE has to go into effect when that's executed. And I don't feel like we're clear about who that's going to be. And because don't each community has to designate their executive. I mean, I don't know if officials have to designate someone to represent the communities. I mean, that has to happen. So maybe what we need to do is just go over the steps about. I mean, even more than the website to me, this is more critical. Like who are the people that need to be involved? Who's going to be at the table and what are the first things that we need to do? So I kind of would, I would personally like to get that established first. Okay. And then the meeting. Could be to discuss that. And then the meeting with Rick and Alan is going to maybe be like a separate staff meeting just to get them to just get on the same page and get the language together. Which, and I think it was really minor edits too. I mean, that's the thing that's so frustrating about this is there was like, there was really nothing left. It was just like basically agreement, but we have to make sure that they're on the same page. And then we'll get back to that. And then we'll get back to that. And then what happens separately? Let's have our group meet. So again, I get back the week. I'll be back in the week of the 19th. We could meet. Sometime that week or like Friday, the 23rd, I'd rather do it at the end of the week personally. Because I'm going to be trying to catch up. I would say. Prioritized meeting with the lawyers. I'm not going to be meeting with us if possible. But don't give away the nine o'clock slot. To us. Okay. I hear you. I'm all, I'm with you on that. So I've got it. Sorry. Okay, Tom, we'll be in touch. 23rd at nine o'clock Tom, tentatively. Yes. Yes. I'll shoot for with the lawyers, but if not, it'll, I'll let you know. Oh, okay. And Chris, give me that document and I'll get it back to you guys. Thank you very much. Okay. Ciao. Thanks, Tom. Bye. Okay. So as far as our meeting next. I think. I am when I'm trying to kind of scare us towards is. Is that, is that what you're saying? Western mass green energy. I'm no, but it would be a working group for the valley green energy does not have to meet until we know that we need to meet Paul. In my opinion. So it's back to our staff working group on the valley green alliance that needs to meet. Right. Because I don't think we need to meet with Paul till we hear from Paul that there's a reason for us to meet with them again. I think we need to work on the alliance. Yeah. So what I'm saying is we need to get that. That is our next priority. Like, because we have no. We have no real next steps or even the people identified as who's going to be part of that. Because that's different than this working group. Right. Or it could be. I mean, it's not absolutely different, but they haven't, they haven't merged yet. And we don't have to post minutes and post agendas and stuff for the other group. Yeah, for the other group, but, you know, we're still. Yeah, but we're not, we can't. It's like already a little confusing and crazy now. So to go to like a third iteration of like another group that has to be tracked and posted and all that. So. No, you don't. I mean, we could stop recording now. You know, you could adjourn the. Meeting of valley green energy working group. And stop recording and we could. Start the meeting of the. Valley green lion staff working group. It doesn't have to be busy. It doesn't have to be recorded. Right, but it's not going to be today. I know, but we did talk about doing that. We did. We did. And we could. So we could do a separate meeting for that group. Let's just, let's just. Can we start with these. Two things first. Let's just start with the. Let's just start with the meeting with the lawyers. I'll reach out to Paul Gromer to find out if there's something specific that they need to meet with us about. And moving things forward. And if we need to schedule a meeting with them. Close those two meetings. And then I think the next meeting would be for. The alliance, which is not the working, which is not this staff working group. Right. And so how about if we, uh, if, if Paul, not Paul, I'm sorry. It's a, uh, Alan and Rick are available on the 23rd at nine. We meet with them and then we continue on with the value green alliance meeting. Do it at the same time. Yeah, because we don't have to post that one. Great. You don't have to post it. And I'm, and hopefully working with Rick and Alan won't take long. Yeah. And that's just a staff meeting. That's like, not even an official working group meeting. That's just a staff. Right. Meeting with them. So we don't have to post that one either. Right. So. Okay. And then the alliance meeting would be right after, if that's possible. Yeah, we'll just kind of keep it all at the same meeting. The alliance group is meeting and we're going to talk to the lawyers and then. Go on from there. I have a suggestion. I have a suggestion to help us. Because it's always so hard to clarify what's. You know, VG what's VGA. That. Stephanie. Be the lead on all of the VGE meetings. Cause. That's what we've been doing. And that Chris. Be the lead on all the VGA. And that's what we've been doing. There's no money, you know, involved from, you know, any grants from legislators or whatever. Right. It's like changing the chair. The face. Right. Cause it actually. Then you physically kind of feel that we're in a different group. So what's going to happen when we become Valley Green Alliance? Who's the, who's going to be. The staff support of that. And then it's a different group all together. We're Valley Green Alliance. We don't know yet. Yeah, we know we have to define the board. Right. I know that's what I'm saying though is like, but it's some, but it has to start. We have to have. Somebody to shepherd that through that initial phase. So I'm saying that's going to likely be from this group. Yeah. And it makes sense. I agree with. Yeah. I think that's a good point. And I think that's a good point. And I think that's a good point. And Andrew's suggestion that we have. That we spread the, spread the responsibility around and that it'd be Chris. Leading VGA. It'll also reduce. Confusion. Chris, you good with that? It's been wonderful. It's wonderful. I see the. I could see the benefits to it. It is. I mean, it is getting like for me, it is getting a little unwieldy. About wait, which group is this? So I think it would make my life a lot easier. And it will bring clarity. So. Yeah. Okay. It will also empower you, Chris. Well, Stephanie is a way to. You know, finalize the, you know, based on the doodle poll, when the next meeting will be with the, you know, lawyers and the. The group. Okay. I mean, are you. Are you okay, Stephanie with that? You're not being there. If we talk to lawyers. No, I need to be there. That's. I don't think that's what Andrew say. Andrew's just saying that you could schedule it, but I mean. I don't think that's what Andrew is saying. I'm not going to be available to ensure that I'm going to be here. As all filled out the doodle poll. It'll be based on the doodle poll. Okay. So I guess Chris, you're sending a doodle poll. To you, me and Tom, Rick and Alan. Yep. And then we'll inform everybody else when that is. Yeah. Thank you. That's great. Yeah. And those meetings don't have to be posted, but these do. Yeah. At least until it gets signed as soon as it's. As soon as it's executed, then you're going to have to start posting them. The meetings. Yeah. But we don't know who that's going to be. That's what we're meeting for. Right. To define that. Right. Great. Okay. Good. Okay. All right. Well. I guess we're signing off. Yes. So we don't, so we don't have another meeting then of this group until further notice. Ted Lee. On 23rd at nine o'clock. I mean, that's what we'll see. That's not this group. That's going to be, that's going to be the staff. See, this is what I mean, right? It's gets really makes your head. That's right. But because that's what the lawyers. Yes. Yeah. That's going to be just staff. That's not a public meeting. That's just a staff meeting. Right. Right now for. For this group, the. Valley green energy group. It's just until further notice. You would passing on the education plan to Paul and team. Correct. So for me, that's going to be the liaison with Paul's group and what we need to do. I'll be scheduling those meetings with Paul and his group. You're going to be focused just on the alliance, the creation of the alliance. Does that help? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Just got to get used to it. Yes. Yes. Yes. So you're just on the, you're just on the joint powers entity. I'm working on the CCA specifically. Right. That's the clarification. Okay. Got it. Great. Good. Thanks for that suggestion. Andra. Thank you all. I will talk to you when I get back. All right. Bye. Thank you.