 Good morning and welcome to SPM bars. My name is Miss Kithingi and we are on location at KICC where the fifth edition of KALASHA International Film and TV market is going down. It's a three day fair showcasing you know different activities to do with film, media practitioner and you know a lot of expertise going down right here. You know we have exhibitors that are coming in to show what they got and there is a lot to learn right here. Now students are coming in for free. If you have a student card you come in for free and get to learn and if you're just not in a rekeny and you know just wanting to learn it's just 300 shillings for a day and if you want to come in for the three days it's 700. Like I said it's three day you know sort of festival and there is a lot a lot to learn panelists you know conferences going on and we are waiting for CS Joe Musharu ICT coming in right now and of course being led by the CEO KFC Timothi Owase. We can't wait to see what the festival holds for us. Stay tuned on SPM bars. And we've started the process. In fact we have already told a few agents that went forward and licenses that are going to be redefined to only restricted to assisting foreign makers, foreign few makers in filming within the country. So that is within by October I think we'll have finalized the process of redefining the role of few agents so that artists who wish to create works in the official center and be able to acquire licenses directly without going through the services of fixer or few major companies. Thank you Mr. Owase. Paulika maybe you can address the caring issue about exemptions of and the taxes from you. Thank you. When I joined your rhythm on the issue of collection of taxes from artists and you call it the illegal taxes. Now when I bought your statement is right Abil is prepared and when Abil is ascended to my parliament it is signed into it is ascended to by the president. We have to enforce. Well I do not want them with those taxes are illegal but when you earn income into this country you're supposed to pay taxes on them. Maybe what I can request Mr. Orido is there. We have a care table at this function. You can come there. I will be there. We can discuss that thing in that sense of declaring cameras so that we can be able to find maybe it was a miscommunication between the makers of the budget and the bill what are the contents of that bill we find out so that I can now relay that information to the management through our marketing and communication mission. Thank you. Thank you George. Okay thank you so much George for your question in terms of broadcasting houses not paying royalty. I know there are steps that have been taken from our side in terms of ensuring that before analysis is issued by a communication authority there is a compliance certificate that they need to come and pick from the Kenya copyright board. So now it is being done I think with the communication authority they say it started I think this financial year so that when they before they are registered there is a certificate of compliance. I think that is the light step that the government has taken to ensure that royalty is paid to all the creative. Yes they just want to confirm what they say and currently let's appreciate how the industry works as their communication authority will give your license and in the operation you will use you may use content from the creative. Now when you use content from the creative that's where the cobalt and the CMOs come in. The CMOs operate under the cobalt. I believe CMOs we know what to do inside the collective management organization. So the collective management organization are the ones who rely us directly with the creative on aspect of copyright. Now the CMOs they give us a CA the information on which we the house has complied and we use that information to renew their license or as my colleague has indicated to give them annual compliance certificate. So that it's a mechanism that we have we have also an enforcement mechanism that has to that is connected with that but a CA we rely so much on the information we get from the CMOs. If the CMOs in the CMOs do not give us that information we will be at pains to try to enforce our licensing condition because we are not the expert, we are not the agency in charge of that. So we are actually at the tail end of the process and as my colleague has indicated we are working very closely with them we get weekly or monthly data who has complied, who has not complied and use that on the enforcement mechanism. Now you have indicated no station has been shut down on this. We inform us that the CICA, the Information Communication Act under section 83 lays out the procedure of enforcing a station. It's a government you don't wake up one morning come to you as a broadcasting station and we just close you. As for the CICA there is a procedure that goes that that has been laid and on the procedure is to inform you that you are violated and asking what have you violated and part of the procedure you as a station may come and tell me I have already last seen the CMOs we have this argument on how payment is done. So with that one is a regulator I cannot just come and shut you down because there is something that is happening I give an opportunity to sort the matter. So for our information I think all the broadcasters either they either comply or they have indicated commitment to comply or there is an arrangement with the CMOs on how they're going to pay. So that's the the station at the moment. Thank you very much. Okay just a follow-up so are there any other sanctions other than because we know shutting down is drastic are there any other sanctions maybe less severe that can be put in place? Thank you. So this is what how the law has been laid down. The first procedure is to issue a notice of violation and give you reasonable time for you to come back to us to tell us the corrective action that you're put in place to prevent further or recurrence of the violation. Okay after that people will be able to say so what you've given us is a me that's kind of violation. Now if the violation continues it means that the mechanism you're put in place are not sufficient. Okay so the next level is to give you a show cause why we should not penalize you. Okay and once we give you the cause cause why we should not penalize you and you don't get a report that is sufficient that is convincing then we can penalize you starting from half a million more than two percent of your gross turnover. Okay then when you see that that one is not deterrent enough we are still continuing to violate then we move to the level about we do license to give you a license of special notice which will lead to license cancellation that is the law we have in Kenya. Thank you. Thank you. The other question that was in the middle. Thank you very much. My name is Boniface Wali. I'm a content producer, digital publisher and a member of the entertainment and arts journalist association of Kenya. I'd like to start by appreciating Mr. Oase and the team at the Kenya Film Commission for the efforts that you initiated. You bring the media into this discussion because we do feel that this is a very important conversation to have as a sector and I think we are very much up to the challenge that you are opposed to us to really bring this conversation to the to the nation's you know view and make it a discussion that the country should have and see how to move the industry forward. Now my question is directed to the gentleman from the Communication Authority and last year the African Union thematically was focused on the arts and culture as a focused area within all their programs and one of the outcomes of this was that Swahili was adopted as a language of the African Union and you know for all the member states in terms of their operations and we've seen this being implemented for example in South Africa where it's being taught in schools like really using Swahili as a language to integrate the states across the continent. So as the authority mandated with the responsibility of managing the frequencies of the nation within Kenya what are you doing to really utilize this policy or this development across the continent to position our content or you know our media production in other countries around the continent because by the same virtue that we're able to watch the ocean weather here in French and you know all these foreign programs it will be very fulfilling and in a great step for the industry we're able to see content that's produced from here being on air on Cameroon TV stations or in Nigeria and so on and so forth. So is this your my name and if so what are the the steps that you take towards that? The gentleman before you proceed this gentleman wait do you have three questions at a time? My name is Paul Bukha one is to the Kenya Film Commission apart from this circulation and the approvals from the various agencies represented here. How can you help us in regulations by county? We need also regular approvals from counties where we are going to fail concern. Also in getting approvals from other agencies that are represented by for example the Kenya Railways. Also the drone issue. I would like to emphasize on the point of timelines and how long it takes for the approval because when we present our documents and filming projects for approval we give a timeline of and the schedule of when we are shooting. So when the approvals take long it collides with the shooting schedule that we have prepared so that's also a concern mainly for the drone issue. Also maybe you can clarify to me KFC and KFCB the difference between the license we get annual license from KFCB and the annual license that you have talked about from KFC. Thank you so much. So Masi you want to go first before coming to this? I respond to your two questions first of all let clarified that Kenya Film Commission doesn't issue any license but our sister agency KFCB does issue a filming license that is the position. Number two I will talk about licenses being sought for by county governments and what we are doing to address that issue. This is an issue I would refer you to the constitution 2010 scheduled for where issues to do with the recreation services. The county governments are actually given specific rules to manage cinema halls and so on but when it comes to filming that is still a national service which has not been transferred. So the solution to this I would like to confirm that in the film policy draft that we currently have is meant to address that and come up with what we call one strong show for all filming across the country. So that is how we intend to address that issue. Then when it comes to lay some services with other government agencies I would like to put this forth as a challenge to all filmmakers. A number of times my phone doesn't stop ringing because somebody has been arrested somewhere they were doing something illegal and the only person who will be able to sort them out is Timothio Rase at Kenya Film Commission. I look about the many opportunities that Kenya has and I can tell you it's an exciting time to be in Kenya to be in Africa and more so to be in film. The creative sector is one that is transforming. I think the messages you're saying that the politicians should be hearing you're the best place to put those messages in film put them on radio put them on TV so that everyone can actually take those messages and know how we need to see the next government structured so that it ensures we take full advantage create the many jobs but more so educate people let people know the truth about many of the things that are happening because that's actually one of our main challenges people knowing you know what is true and what is not true in this day and age. So earlier in the morning we were launching the strategic plan for cyber security for the country and you know one of the key things is how do we ensure whatever we are told and whatever we see whether it is true or not and I think the creative sector is one that can really educate and give people that opportunity. So I'm very proud to be here one of the first trips that we took we went to to Hollywood and all of them were asking us so one do you have the people that can actually work in this sector that understand this sector do you have the equipment and do you have a location map where we can see what locations you have so I'm very proud that we can today officially launch our location map for Kenya and where people can be able to wherever they are in the world be able to access and be able to see where they can come and film and you know in Kenya we have so many many places I think in they have even vibranium I don't know if any of you know when you look at the sun it's very different say we clap because it's a big achievement just now I can see you on the screens from me I'm like talking to myself but it is great and I think with those few remarks and with those few words let me say in our Zechana thank you very much I'm not there was anything else for me to do no no thank you very much monasi yes on day 60 go and see you all right guys so