 All right our first question is from em hot in pink nine How do men get jacked in prison if they're not eating in a salary a calorie surplus? Yeah, well, okay So first off obviously to build muscle you have to be in at least somewhat of a surplus. So that's not Entirely correct, but I do get a lot of questions about this is like, you know Some prisons don't even have equipment They're eating, you know top ramen and tuna fish like how are they able to to build so much muscle or whatever and the the number one reason is Frequency and the second reason is consistency. They work out often and they work out a lot. That's not it either There's also still this misconception of what people what jacked is And we've talked about this on the show All of us have talked about when I got lean or when any of us got really lean I got more jacked you look huge compliments than ever So the when you lean somebody out we all ever even somebody who doesn't work out has got muscle They have shoulders. They've got pecs. They've got a back. They got legs only got a six pack Yeah, they've got although they have that those muscles if you peel down all the body fat They look jacked. They'll look like they built a bunch of muscles So there's there's a couple things going on here. So it isn't always you rarely see a guy go into prison Okay 185 and he comes out at 215 and Jack and that's also to say too. I bet some of them get stuff Yeah, because they they found ways to get all other drugs I wouldn't be surprised if they found ways to get all the ball inside there Yeah for getting things on the outside, but I think it's it's probably even shifted I think that might have been the case like you know decade or so back when you know They did allow didn't they allow like weights and you know, and they're able to actually like, you know have Actual plates and everything yeah in so but they removed that from a lot of the prisons not even all of them though This is California. Yeah, not all prisons are like that. It's one of the biggest I think stupidest things they ever did I think Exercise is a great way to reduce depression anxiety. Of course improve good mood It's a very positive way to build self-esteem Give you some a little bit of purpose and it's an effective tool to take away if somebody messes up So I think that was very dumb But here's the thing so I had a couple people work for me in the past Who served some time and we actually talked about this and they said, you know They said you work out all day like you wake up in the morning and you do push-ups pull-ups sit-ups It's like self-preservation to yeah extra motivation there It's like you break up your day with like three different workouts It's not like they go and work out for an hour, you know, three days a week What else are you gonna do and literally one of my employees told me this he goes you work out and you read or you lose Your mind so what I did all day was I worked out three times a day and I read all the time I read more books in prison than I'll ever read in the rest of my life But that frequency and that all that frequent practice and that consistency especially when you're You know when you're when you're dogged about it, right? It's like I mean here for five years You know, what am I every day looks exactly the same? What am I gonna do a lot of these guys? This is how they maintain sanity and if you practice exercises three times a day every single day Consistently and you don't overdo it and you're super consistent about it. You will build Strength and muscle you just will and there's also the the potential I mean we're speculating on what everybody does in prison and the reality is there's probably lots of different examples There's probably an example of somebody who smuggles extra calories in there And so that's why he gets bigger There's maybe somebody who actually never worked out till they went to prison and now they have those newbie gains where anything They do they're gonna start to build a little bit of muscle regardless of their their calorie intake So there or there's the guy who is doing three days a week or three days or three times a three times a day every day Training so his frequency is up there So there's lots of reasons why this could be so and then there's the other one where they could be getting drugs too You know, there's a very good chance that some of them are taking steroids in there So, you know, if you'd have to give me the exact person and then me be able to assess what I think from that So all those though are major factors. I mean all those things can result in someone building an incredible physique I don't think it's a like one size fits all like oh, this is what they're all doing in prison It's like well, there's probably this potentially going on this could potentially go on how do you know? They're not smuggling more food, too Yeah, I said that as a possible variable like better believe some people are getting calories sometimes that trade it Yeah, so they'll they'll play games and then cigarettes or packets of tuna. Yeah, really popular. Yeah in prison protein They're not gonna surplus is kind of like it's just yeah And I would make the argument that most of these the the guys that we're talking about and or girls that get jacked the definition of jacked is is But showing more muscle definition, you know And so a lot of them probably just lean out and a lot of them probably now because they're eating low calorie only three meals a day And moving and exercising all day. Well, one of the guys that I again one of my employees They would be locked down for a majority of the day So majority of the day you were stuck in your cell and then they would let each person out for like an hour or two a Day and literally that's what he said. He goes the way you keep your sanity is You break up your day with exercises and I'm like in your cell and he goes Oh, yeah, you do pull-ups on the top bunk stand push-ups. You do push-ups. You do handstand push-ups You do sit-ups. You do lunges. He's like you do all kinds of you know Creative exercises just to kind of maintain your sanity and you get really good at doing you ever seen barmen You ever seen guys that are really good on bars. Oh, yeah, okay Some of these guys in prison on bars look are like gymnasts because for years This is what they practice every single day and they develop tremendous skill I feel like what prompted this question is the episode that we did not that long ago because we got some stuff on YouTube We're a couple people that saw the clip it started practicing push-ups No, no, no We talked about how you don't if you're in order to build muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus Oh, I see and we got debate on on YouTube a little bit for us So I think that I feel like that's where this is coming from because that was just recently like a week ago That's been like the one of the most recent contested things that we've said and of course everybody takes one piece of that And they try and run with it It's like there's exist there's always exceptions to the rule the exception to the rule is somebody who hasn't lifted weights ever or hasn't in a very long time And even in a calorie deficit that person could potentially build some muscle I do want to make this point like never underestimate the ingenuity of people when they have nothing else to do I mean you have in prison you have a bit of a self-selection bias Supposedly not the smartest brightest people right go to prison and yet if you ever learn about the economics and the Ingenuity communication that they're in prison. It would blow your damn mind I mean they have ways of communicating through the toilets where they can go through the pipes where they can make their own Alcohol they make tattoo guns They can make all kinds of different devices and ways to listen and communicate with each other and ways to smuggle things and You make out their own languages so you can write and code and now why they're locked in in a cell They have nothing else to do and so they just did they're just disciplined focus on something Yeah, so imagine that with exercise or learning and how many people go to prison come out with a degree or even a master's degree Because they had nothing else I've read stories of people who actually built their cases and then and then Defended themselves or appealed their cases themselves, right and they became lawyers themselves law Yeah, so never underestimate like what people are capable of when they have no other choice