 The show, my name is Bymos, it's bymos, social media and there's this internet craze, it's a social media platform, it goes by the name Tiktok, I'm not on it, but today I made my first Tiktok, I think we're going to be showing it towards the end of the show and I have more Tiktokers in the building, Flora and Ivy. Thank you for having us. Thank you for coming through too. Hi. Alright, so they've never met before by the way, they're meeting here for the first time, courtesy of not me, it's the show, why in the morning, Kariburi Sanaman. So who's going to introduce themselves first? Take it, take it over here. My name is Flora Frisghi, I'm a Tiktoker and content creator on Instagram. Tiktoker, content creator on Instagram and you're a fine artist as well. Yes, I am. You'll be telling us more about that. Hi, I'm Vivian Yanzigu, Ivy had designed Instagram and Tiktok, I am a Tiktoker. Alright, Kariburi Sana and I'm so impressed so far with what Tiktok can do. When did you first join the platform? I joined Tiktok last year, mid last year. Alright, what did you join it for? What was your push to join Tiktok? I would say I love imitating. You love imitating? Yes. So this was sent from heaven for you? Yes. Alright, what was your drive to join Tiktok? Basically I'm into acting and I just wanted a platform where I can decide what to put out without having a director or a scriptwriter behind me. So you're the director, you're the actor, you're the scriptwriter, everything you want. Yes. And Tiktok was heaven sent for you. Yes. Wow. So what's your handle on Tiktok first before we carry on so they can find you? I know people are downloading the app right now, this is Tiktok guys need to pay us. We were downloading the app so much so you can share your handle with them so they can find you as we proceed. My handle is at Ivy Hadidza on Tiktok and at Ivy Hadidza on Instagram. Alright. Mine is at flora underscore alia on both Tiktok and Instagram. Nice one. Yes. You're a blogger. No, I'm not. You're not a blogger? No. Alright, on your Instagram it's written a personal blog, the bio so I assume, I'm sorry for assuming it. Alright, but you're a content creator. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a content. What type of content do you involve yourself with? Basically just comedy really, just feel good comedy. Alright, what other forms of comedy have you tried before if you have? I do not consider myself a comedian. So I'm just a creator, that's it. That's it. Yeah. Alright, but when you make me love you? I don't think I could carry that tag. It's such a big tag. It's such a big tag. So content creator is good enough for me. It's more like it. Yes. For you. Alright, fine art. Yes. I'm an abstract painter, yeah, so that is actually my main life and also content creating is also part of me. Okay, so, Kunawatu, I lay abstract painting. Oh, abstract painting is. I see. I see. Being a fine artist basically is, they're artists, it's in the field of painting. So they are painters who can do all kinds of, they can do sculpting, they can do portrait and all that. I'm not like based in one kind of category of art, which is maybe portrait painting or pencil work, diverse. You're diverse. Yes, that's it. Alright. But abstract painting is one of them. Yes, abstract, because I don't do more faces, it's quite. You express your feelings on it. Maybe shapes or, you know, different things. Like Picasso. Yes. I try. That's a way, way, way better. Alright, that's it. So when it comes to social media, we can't talk about social media without talking about likes and comments. What is the obsession with likes and comments? And does it exist in TikTok first? Do you have likes and comments on TikTok? Yeah, we do. Alright. What is the obsession with it? Well, when you have more likes and, when you have more likes and more views, I mean, that means your work has been liked and it's been done. Means you're doing something right? Yes, something right. On the flip side, you don't get likes and comments. What happens? Do you get depressed? Personally? Yeah. No. Alright, do you take the video down? No. I think when you create content for you and you're creating it because it's what you like, you're not doing it because, oh, who is watching, oh, what will they say? It's about me. No. That's my ethic. That's your ethic right there. What about you? No, she's right actually. You do the content for yourself. When you're doing something because you actually wanted, that's when it's actually going to get more views and more likes or more attention. But when you do it... Just talk to my steady like this, like none of that. So yeah, when you're doing something just because you're not hoping someone else will see it, it actually gets to be seen by someone you get. But then there are times actually, I don't know if you've gotten it, I got it. And when you post something, you're hoping like, I hope this person will see it. And then no one... Target audience. Yes, exactly. And no one sees it. And you feel like you want to take it down and you want to, you know... So you go through those things sometimes. Yeah, you do. Because you expect your work to be hard every day to be noticed. And sometimes you don't get to that point and then you're like, oh goodness, where am I getting with this, you know? All right. So it gets to that point, but then you have to go to your, you know, zero point and say, this is not why the reason I started this, yeah. So the reason you do it, you should do it for yourself first, before you do it for the people. You should do it because you love it. Yes, yes, true. That is the advice you'd give the people who are watching us right now and they get frustrated when, okay, so being ladies. This is... It's going to be controversial. All right. When you post something with some, a little bit of nudity or something, let me say sexy for lack of better words, do you get more traction than when you post something with just content, straight content? Does it happen to you? Personally, I don't get that a lot because I role play most of the time. As a guy. So I think that that tension is diverted more to the message than what I look like. So you found a way to come there, yeah? Yeah. All right. Was that part of the plan? No, really. I just, I just like it. You just like it? Yeah. I like that. You were thinking so hard. No, no, no. Just tell us what you were thinking about. I was trying to understand your question much better because when they will come and comment nonsense on your, you know, on whatever, you probably are role playing and you're doing maybe a lip-sync of somebody, let's say pasta nga nga, and you're like, how was this your attention than whatever lip-syncing or something, you see? So yeah, it happens. But then that's not the reason I do that. That is not the reason you do that. So some people get their attention on the wrong things. Yes, yes. Oh, sometimes the right thing, but the wrong place. Yes, yes, true. I feel that. This thing about cyberbullying, it never existed when I was in primary school. Bullying was physical. Nightingale School and Cyberbullying. And have you guys gone through it? Not as such. I haven't really. But then sometimes on TikTok. Yeah, I haven't got nasty comments on. I have. Kiddogo, because some people think I'm Somali. So they think why you're not wearing your hijab or something. So someone, you just have to ignore them such things. Is that racism? No, no, no. It's just they think if someone looks at you, you probably look like a rwandese, let's say for example, Nigerian. Oh, maybe. No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Then people, you know, people assume and then they say, you go cover yourselves, you know, like that. Minim kenya lisi, by the way. It's an example. All right. So you get that? Yeah, just sometimes. But that is on TikTok, not on Instagram or anything. When you say the Rwandese or Nigerian, I felt exactly how you felt when they do that. So I get the feeling. Thank you for making me feel the ego. All right. So as we proceed, TikTok has given you guys opportunity. You role play, sometimes you can be a man if you want. On TikTok, I hear you can be anything, you can be a child, you can be a man, you can be a woman if you're a man. You can be a watermelon. You can be a watermelon. There's a watermelon filter. Yes. I love watermelon. Oh. Yes, and chicken. All right. You can be a DJ on TikTok. You can be anything on TikTok. You can be a TV host on TikTok. All right. When I look at other social media handles, when they started, like Twitter, when Twitter started, we never imagined Twitter would be a protest platform. People protest on Twitter now. We have seen revolutions on Twitter. When Facebook started, we never imagined it could be a news channel. We get our news on Facebook now. What do you think TikTok is going to morph into in the future, apart from just role playing and these things? What are some of the new trends that we are going to see on TikTok? From where you sit? Personally, I think that TikTok is going to be the next big thing when it comes to marketing for both artists and for companies. It's a great, great, great platform. Everyone else is flooding to the radio station, everyone else is going to TV, everyone else is going to Instagram. No one is looking at TikTok. It's going to be the next big thing. That is where you insert that meme. TikTok is the future. TikTok. TikTok is the future. What about you? What do you... Yeah, like she said, it's actually true. TikTok is going to be the next big thing, especially in marketing and everything. Like Ed Sheeran right now is trying to market his song through TikTok and there are companies right now who are trying also to use TikTokers to market that stuff because people are tired of seeing someone just coming and talking or this brand or this, this, this. But with TikTok, there's a track that you're playing with and showing, if it's a brand, you're showing something that you're advertising with the music. It was designed to capture my attention. Exactly. It captures attention and someone's creativity. With that, now you're advertising whatever brand or whatever company you're doing, you're dealing with at that moment. Wonderful. Wonderful insight right there, but this is that time that we bring social media to the television, so we are going to be watching the TikTok videos.