 There's a lot of talk about mesh networking now and you know I'm a crazy person about networks and I'm talking to Daniel Peck from Luma who has a mesh networking offering here that looks pretty interesting. How you doing? Doing really good. Really good. All right so what, tell us about Luma. So Luma is a whole home Wi-Fi solution. We sell several nodes. We have a three pack, a two pack and a one pack and depending on your home you get the one that's most appropriate. For most single family homes in the US, a three pack covers it very nicely. We recommend one per thousand square feet or about every four. So we're all really fond of going to 192.168.1.1 on our web browser. Is that how this works? Unfortunately no. That'll be something you'll have to give up if you really enjoy that. So we went with kind of a mobile first application where everything is controlled via your mobile app with support iOS and Android and everything just happens really seamlessly and simplistically within the app. So you were telling us earlier, we did a little bit of pre-work here, that it's over Bluetooth? Yeah, all the setup is done via Bluetooth Low Energy, all the initial data connection and it's able to do that without even leaving the app. So that's good if you've got a house that has no cellular network or poor cellular network. You don't have your Wi-Fi setup. You kind of need something. The Bluetooth Low Energy is going to get you there. Yeah, Bluetooth Low Energy is going to let you set up those initial devices and if you need access, we also broadcast a Luma Setup AP as well that allows you to go from the initial unset up Luma to fully set it up as well if your phone doesn't support Bluetooth for whatever reason. Okay, cool. So I know some of the mesh network devices don't have Ethernet jacks on the satellite devices. So if you had wired Ethernet, you'd want to plug it in. Do you guys have Ethernet jacks on them? We do. This device, this device has two Ethernet ports. On the hub, one is used to connect to your cable modem. On the nodes, both are accessible for additional devices. Oh, okay. So you can run another, it's basically an Ethernet switch. That's right. That's right. And if you're lucky enough to have Ethernet backhaul all through your house, then it can act in wired backhaul mode as well. Yeah, I don't have that, but I dream about that and I know some people do. We've also got a USB jack on the back so you can hook up some hard drives that kind of thing. So currently, it's really just for a charging unit. We're looking at a few other possibilities of what that can be used for. So you can charge devices through it, you mean? Yeah, you could. It's basically, we're using up one of your wall jacks for AC that might as well give you a USB charger along with it. That might be more useful than a disk drive some days. So you were showing us earlier, maybe we could come in here, Steve. He's got an iPad Pro here. He's got a display up. I'm describing also for the audio people as well. So you can do a lot of the control from this app. Tell us about what you can see here. Yeah, you fully control the app. So here you have a view of the full home. We know where the lumas are in the home and how they're connected to one another. You see the speed test result, the upload, download speed. You can go in and see any security alerts you might be having. We talked a little bit earlier about how security is kind of baked into the product from day one. So from this screen you would see any security alerts for any devices you have. So what kind of security alerts can you see? So if the device is connecting to, say, a malware command and control server, we're able to see that and block it from doing further communication out. That's a really good thing. Yeah. I think it is a pretty good thing. It hopefully helps people have a little bit less heartache. Yeah, there you go. Or at least know that they have heartache, which is half the battle, right? Exactly, exactly. Now what if you've got kids in the home? So if you have kids in the home, we also have some really deep level of content filtering where you can set for your whole network kind of the level of content that's most applicable. You have a lot of small kids in the house or maybe just a kid who's prone to pick up devices all around the house. You can say my home is more of a G-Haul, where it can only be... He's got a slider here that goes GPGPG13R and unrated. Unrestricted. Oh, sorry, sorry. So that's, hey, I'm not interested in content filtering and that's fine. There's some people who don't really have a need for that, but we want to provide the option for people who do. Okay, so what if we set our home to G, but Steve wants to go to... He's a wild man, he's going to go PG13 tonight. What can you do? So users, we can set profiles for each of your users and you can assign devices to them. Well, let's say in this case you got this great little kid Caleb here. So Caleb's got her iPad mini. She's normally set to a G-Rating. Say she's doing a school project and she needs to get access to something that's really kind of a PG content. Well, she can get the block page in the web browser and she'd be able to ask mom or dad, whoever the network admin for your Luma Wi-Fi system is, for an override. And then she'd be able to access that content and it could either be permanent or temporary and say that she could get her school work done or learn something new and then immediately be back. What if mom's at work? Can she do it from work? Of course she can. It's a push notification that goes right to the app, wherever they are in the world. Now quality of service is important of looking at what kind of data you can get through, what kind of devices have higher priority, what do you have in quality of service? Yes, so we have where you can prioritize a given device. You can also set a default device for priority and we integrate with the Amazon Alexa so you can control that via voice. You can set a device that's going to be my default prioritized device, say an Apple TV or maybe your laptop. You can just say to your Alexa, Alexa tell Luma to prioritize my device and then that device will be prioritized for the rest of the time. We also do that prioritization over the Wi-Fi itself, which a lot of people aren't doing. Are you sure that there's fairness in the airtime to make sure that they're getting the best possible Wi-Fi experience on that device? So you're doing it at the device level but not at the level of saying I want voiceover IP to have the highest priority and then I want video streaming next and I want text editing to be last. You're doing it on the device level instead. Right, yeah, that would be interesting to prioritize text editing. I'm going to let that one go to the bottom. Right, I guess there might be a time where you're really worried about pushing a few K of data. I'm coding here, I'm coding hard, I want that on top. Need to make sure that Atom Editor really works the best it possibly can. I use Atom, I use Atom, there you go. But you don't do prioritization on the type of traffic, you do it on the device itself. That's right, that's right, we do it on the device level. That's an interesting way to do it, so you could say make all my Apple TVs at the top so video streaming looks good and everything else goes down a little bit. Right, right, and that only would come in when there's contention. On a normal network, if you're not pushing more than your uplink is, then quality of service won't kick in at all. It's only when you're trying to pull down or push up more data than your pipe allows you to. Okay, okay, I got it. So, let's see, we haven't actually held one up for the camera here for the video, so let's... You want to do the two pack? Yeah, well, just grab one of those guys here. So, it's a hexagon, it's about an inch thick and maybe, I don't know, four or five inches, four inches across. Now, this stands up on the table, right? It does, it does, it stands up. We have, you know, a pretty good industrial design aesthetic that fits into most homes. And we have several different colors, so we have white for kind of a classic look. We have a really sleek black, a nice gray, and a really vibrant orange that kind of goes along with our branding a little bit, but also really stands out and lets you kind of show it off in your home and brag about your Wi-Fi a little bit. There you go. All right, well, these are pretty cool, are these on the market yet? They are, they are, we launched last June, we're on the shelf in Best Buy. You can also buy online, bestbuy.com, amazon.com, we're also on target.com and several other stores. And what's your price point on these? So the price point currently is $2.99 for the three pack, and I believe we're running a special right now on that as well. And the, tell me what our price points are right now, do you remember? Three pack is $3.99. I'm stuck in the holiday special there. Well, let me also point out that we are talking to the chief architect who is who we wanted to talk to, not the guy in charge of pricing. You are absolutely forgiven that, you got the tech details. That's what we really care about. So $3.99 for a three pack. $3.99 for a three pack, $2.49 for a two pack, and $1.49 for a single. All right, so we should just buy three. Yeah, yeah, most people should just buy three. Make sure your house is really well covered. And if you end up not needing the third, you can give it to a friend. Yeah, there you go. All right, I really appreciate your time in explaining this all to us. This is fantastic. I wish you the best of luck. Sounds good, great. Talking to you as well. Wait, how do people find your product? Getluma.com. Getluma.com. Thank you. Thank you.