 liberty and justice for all. Our resident reverend will now do the invocation. We ask now that you might watch and protect us, sensitize us, and yet have understanding and listening ears to do what is effectual for this our city. Be with those who have gathered. Touch them in a very viable and meaningful way. We ask it. We claim it in his name. Amen. Amen. May I like to be recognized? Yes. I just wanted to take a personal point of privilege. And since this is the first meeting without our colleague, the Honorable Joe E. Taylor, just talk about him for a couple of minutes, because he has touched so many of our lives in different ways. For me, especially, he became one of my best friends on council, always challenging me, sometimes yelling at me. But most importantly, always pushing me to think about what was best for the city. And so as we start this year in 2023, I ask my colleagues and all of you to keep the spirit of Joe Taylor alive. Always think about what's best for the city. Don't be afraid to be uncomfortable when you're fighting for something that's right. And most importantly, remember that we live in one of the coolest, most special places that can really be a destination for all types of people to come and plant their roots and build a really, really bright future. So I know we certainly miss him. There's lots of conversations, especially in City Hall, about the ways in which he would have reacted to something, how he's still been here. And I just wanted to say that we will make him proud as we continue to move forward in our work to further the city. Thank you. At this point, we have public input related to items on the agenda. So if there's somebody who would like to speak on any item that is on our agenda, you're welcome to come forward. Do we have anybody sign up? Not for items on the agenda. Thank you, Mayor Counsel. We have one presentation today, which is really a follow-up item from an item that you all have previously discussed. And we wanted to bring it to top of mind for everyone, as you also have an action item today that you'll consider. And this is the Hardin Street and Blossom Street Roads Safety Projects. Mr. Sean Salley is the program manager for Traffic Safety, Traffic Engineering for the South Carolina Department of Transportation. And Sean will take us through a brief presentation. Our staff is also available for any questions you might have. Good afternoon, everyone. Appreciate y'all having us. I guess the intent, SCDOT is going through, and we're producing a safety project along Blossom and Hardin Street, it's a traffic safety project. And we're in the midst of development, and we just kind of want to move forward with a municipal agreement between the City of Columbia and SCDOT. So in attendance presentations, just kind of give a standing where we are, the background, how we got to where we are, why we chose these locations, and just to feel any questions you got. We also, I got Rick Reef, who's our consultant who's doing the design and kind of run through the presentation, if you've got any questions. Very good. Thank you, Sean. Again, my name is Rick Reef. I'm a professional engineer with a consultant firm, Kimmy Horton Associates, and we've been working with SCDOT for the last four or five years on this project. Again, like Sean mentioned, I want to go through a brief history of the project and where we stand today. Brief overview, so we have two segments. We have one segment on Hardin Street and one on Blossom. The segment on Hardin runs from Pendleton to Blossom Street. It's approximately 0.45 miles, and it's a four lane divided section today with a 25 mile per hour speed limit. The ADT in 2021 was 20,700 vehicles per day, and this short segment of Hardin Street ranked as the number one worst crash problem for pedestrians and bicycles in the whole state. As you're showing a segment of Blossom Street, it's a little longer. It's 2.9 miles and runs from the river to Sins Avenue. It's generally a four lane divided segment. Has a 35 mile per hour speed limit, and the ADT range between 13,100 vehicles per day to 29,600 vehicles per day in 2021. There's 16 signalized intersections along this segment, and this segment ranked as the 10th worst segments for pedestrians and bicycles in the whole state. And here's the summary of that crash data. So we're looking at five years of crash data. Along the approximately half mile of Hardin Street, there was 232 total crashes. From that, there was 27 injury crashes and one serious injury crashes. You can see along Hardin, there was three bicycle crashes and 14 pedestrian crashes. Of those, the majority of those resulted in an injury or serious injury for the pedestrian or bicyclists. Similarly along Blossom, a little longer segment. So there's more crashes. There's 1428 crashes in the five year time period. Overall, there was 118 injury crashes, eight serious injury crashes, and one injury crash. And when you cattle up crashes, is that include, because Blossom Street is where you lose your rear view mirror, is that considered a crash in this report? Because that's a huge number every week. Yeah, so anything reported to the police and they make an official report. And along Blossom Street, there was 26 pedestrian related crashes. And again, the majority of those either resulted in an injury or serious injury. Obviously, y'all are aware that there's a lot of pedestrians on these corridors and there's a pedestrian and bicycle crash problem. So that's what we're here to help solve with this project. Project history, so with these corridors being identified as safety issues, DOT instituted road safety audits. What that is is an interdisciplinary team. So it's DOT engineers from Safety, the District Traffic Office, District Maintenance Office, FHWA, City of Columbia Engineering, Planning, Police, Fire, the Five Points Association, Coalition of Five Points Neighborhoods, University of South Carolina Police and Planning, and got everyone together to walk these corridors during the peak times. The purpose of this is to try and develop proactive low cost safety improvements to help future safety conditions along these corridors. As you know, this goes through the Five Points area. So we looked at a typical evening rush hour, a typical morning rush hour, and we also looked at a Thursday night between 10 and 12 p.m., observing pedestrians and bicyclists' behavior to come up with recommendations to help improve safety for these most vulnerable road users. So those road safety audits occurred in 2019. The reports were finalized in 2020. Then we went to the next phase of the project, DOT identified funding to implement safety recommendations from the studies, and that started in 2021. In August of 2021, we had held a public meeting showing the concepts of the improvements, and over the last year and a half, we've had multiple meetings with the city, state representatives, Five Points Association to refine the concepts. So this is a summary of the improvements. Again, we're looking at proactive low cost improvements that provide high safety value for the corridors. There's very specific uses that we have for these safety funds, and these are a summary of what we're proposing this project. One of the biggest thing is the road diet as part of the RSA field reviews. It was, the question was, can we reduce lanes on Hardin Street and Devine and give that space back to pedestrians and bicyclists? It turns out we're able to provide a road diet for one block of Hardin Street between Devine and Blossom, and then one block of Devine Street between Saluda and Hardin Street, as well as raised median planner boxes along Hardin Street, new mid block crossings along three blocks of Hardin Street, and then several other intersection related crosswalk improvements and signal improvements as well. So this is a snippet, Hardin Street is running up and down on the screen and Green Street is running left to right. Anything in black with the white markings are the proposed improvements. So to accomplish a lot of these improvements, there's gonna be resurfacing of Hardin Street to implement the new crosswalks and bike lane and the 700 block here shown on the bottom of the page. Also showing here, you can see the new mid block crossing and the 800 block of Hardin Street and then a new mid block crossing and the 700 block of Hardin Street as well. Those will be marked crosswalks with the rectangular rapid flashing beacons. So those are the yellow wig wag lights that pedestrians can activate to alert vehicles on Hardin Street that there's a pedestrian crossing. What about just dealing complete shutdown in the intersection and intervals? So for the pedestrians to cross, I'm not sure we looked at that. We did evaluate, you got a specific intersection. We looked at it as far as like a bar and dance type lane. If we did that, just the negative effect on the travel is just it would make it difficult with the amount of traffic that comes from there. We looked at some of the studies and some of that was looked into when we looked at the road diet as far as trying to decide whether we can take it from all the way, from blossom all the way, survey and all. And Mayor, one of the questions I had is similar to that in Charleston, they shut down one side of the road, especially for the high nightlife. Is that something you've looked at in addition to the road diet? Perhaps kind of only having traffic go out one way in the busiest area? We've talked with city police as part of our event involvement and we've talked and they'll shut it down during high impact areas. Once pedestrians start spilling into the street, that's when they will shut it down in the five points area. To answer your question, we are implementing leading pedestrian intervals and that is similar to the crossings on Gervais where pedestrians will get a walk symbol before the adjacent traffic is agreeing. So they have three or four seconds to get out on the crosswalk, make sure that their presence is known for vehicles and that is shown to be, again, another countermeasure that has high value to improve pedestrian safety. DOT will be getting a request from the city and for several intersections to shut down all traffic, especially the heavy and this is the entertainment section so I do think it's something that we won't look, I'd love to have further discussion about that assembly street in Gervais for one. This is one of the number one complaints we get from tourists. We have 15 million visitors in our community and the connectivity in a lot of areas and this was, we used to do it on Main Street, apparently, years ago. Other cities are doing it, the complete shutdown and heavy pedestrian areas like that so I hope we can possibly reconsider it before you make your final, final decision. I know there's always a little wiggle we're in but I'd like to have that conversation. We can definitely look at it again. And I think that would be a timing improvement which would be in addition to everything that we're presenting to you here today. So I've got one more concept kind of sliding to the south. So again, Hardin Street is running up and down on your screen. The Divine Street is running left to right near the top and then Blossom left to right near the bottom. This is illustrating the two blocks where we are proposing a road diet. So Divine Street between Saluda and Hardin is going from four lanes to three lanes and Hardin Street between Divine and Blossom is going to go from four lanes to two lanes and that will allow us to implement bike lanes on Hardin Street as well as have an additional area between the bike lane and the existing angled parking so vehicles can back up without impeding the bike lane or the through lane to get back into the Hardin Street traffic flow. And you can see here at like Divine and Hardin are the intersection bulb outs. So the gray with the purple ramps are gonna be providing more space to hold pedestrians as well as making the crossings of Hardin and Divine shorter for pedestrians in the future. And then there's also a mid block crossing, a new mid block crossing in the middle of the Hardin Street road diet block. One of the observations we had during the RSA field reviews were the amount of pedestrians just crossing wherever in the Hardin Street. As you can imagine, especially during our late night observations. So with the addition of the mid block crosswalks and the improvements to the signalized intersections, we want to move pedestrians to those locations where drivers can better expect them. Through that, we went through several options within the meetings of Five Points Association and the city and have landed on an implementation of this, basically a planner box two feet tall for the median of Hardin Street to help inhibit folks from crossing outside of the marked crosswalk locations. So this would replace the existing medians there and have new landscaping and new street trees as part of the project. Who will choose the shrubbery? We will be working with the city on the look and feel of this. Charlotte, South Boulevard, the heavy grasses that keep trash from cumulating and it fills up the whole center. So there's, you don't have to worry about mulch. Takes very little water. It stays nice year round. Let's look at something like that so that it doesn't become a dumping ground. Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. These mid block crossings, you see them Main Street University other hospitality areas. Will this be a yield to pedestrian mid block crossing with the sign in the middle of the lanes? Yes. So these will include the pedestrian walking figure including plus the rapid flashing beacons. So the pedestrian will activate the beacon and it'll be the yellow wigwag similar to emergency vehicle like the police blue lights. It's found to be the most effective countermeasure that we have in our toolbox to help alert drivers to a crossing pedestrian. And so that, I'm sorry, you went a little too far there. So 600 block and 800 block, where are the? 600, 700, 800 blocks. Okay, so one, okay. One in each of the blocks. So there'll be a mid block yield in each of those blocks on Hardin Street for pedestrians. Okay. That is it for the slides that I have. We'd be happy to answer any further questions that you may have. One other question, Mr. Mayor. I've been a part of several of the meetings and I really appreciate your willingness to work with everybody. Paying special attention to timing and communication to the business owners I think is very important. Y'all have had many lessons learned with this. I think even in the previous projects and five points, can you speak to how you plan on keeping a timely updated calendar with the business owners, with the Five Points Merchants Association? Yes, that's been a big part of the discussions. So we are planning to do the construction between St. Patrick's Day in March, which is a big event, and the start of football season. So we've got a five to six month window to get all these activities complete. And we've committed, or DOT has committed to getting that done during that time period. There's, we're not gonna shut down any of these roads to make these improvements. There'll be temporary lane closures to get them done, like with the curb work and the resurfacing, but there's no need to entirely shut down a block for any of the construction activities. Fantastic. In my other last comment, I see on this version, the 700 block, we're only paving one side of the street. Is that, should that be, should both sides be paid for consistency? Yes. Yeah. Okay, perfect, great. Thanks so much, y'all. That was, I just wanted to check the timing of this project with the bridge. The bridge is going down in 24. This'll be done in 23. 23. This project should be complete way. So we, Mr. Mayor. So we're talking about from March to August. Is that the relatively timeline? April to August. Yes. Welcome to, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you gentlemen for being here tonight. Appreciate it. Thank you. Mayor Counsel, we can proceed if you're ready to the consent agenda items two through 13. Is there a motion? So moved. Second. Second. Motion to second discussion. I did want to ask a question around, well first of all, excited to see some new Tahoe's coming to the police department. I know there'll be some jockeying to see who gets the new vehicle, but really was interested in item number four with our contract for the demolition. I thought we were trying to move to an open contract so that we could complete all of those open items. This is a set amount. I don't know that it covers all the open items that we had in that category. You had a pretty extensive memo. It should have been in your materials. Mayor, items four and five outlined the items thus far that are ready for demolition. Some needed asbestos abatement, others did not. So that's what you're seeing on your agenda. The first launch, I guess, of the funds, the ARPA funds that'll be used for the projects that are ready and then they're broken down separately based upon the need for additional measures if asbestos abatement has to occur versus. Yeah, I don't know why I had in my head that we were trying to have this open and we weren't gonna have to do it every time. So that was my misunderstanding. No, sir, I understand. And I'm not sure if David's here, but if you have any more specific questions, he can come forward. I mean, I'm just glad to see it. Keep going, David, keep going. Yeah, he's rearing to, I think the memo may also outline the next. David, in your, I'm sorry. I won't put this on him, a part of it also is a little bit of a, I guess, difference in interpretation with DHEC and I think I've talked to y'all about that before. My interpretation is a little bit different as to what all had to go into these. This is not a development. These are single family homes that are not part of a major development. There's an exemption that I think DHEC thought these fell into by their interpretation. You know, we disagree, but just because we disagree doesn't mean we don't go ahead and follow what a state agency is asking us to do. So there's a little bit of time that was added to the process that I regret that that was the interpretation, but it is what it is and we're moving forward. That's out of our control. Any other hurdles, David, that we need to clear to continue on your list for improvement? I think we're ready to jump into this hard now that we got once we get this approval today. We're ready to go forward. We did look at the open contract. I think you were talking about it, but I think we had to put it out through procurement. We had to do it this way. But I am told that as we get more, we can just add it on to the existing contracts. We may not have to do this all over again. I'm not 100% certain, but I think that's my understanding. So hopefully it'll go quicker. That's great. My biggest concern was just not creating delays waiting on us to approve something, especially since we've had this ongoing list. And I think every neighborhood that I've heard from is excited that we're moving forward and that these eyesores are gonna be removed and we have an opportunity to push for some rebuild. So thank you. I understand as well. Thank you. David, let me ask you one last question. So what I just heard you say, this is overlapping once we approve this today, we will not have to agenderize this again until we get another set. Agenderize. I got another word from my list. Until you agenderize the other homes and the other demolitions we will look for in the future. I'll have to confirm with procurement, but it's my understanding we built into the contract that we have the right to add additional properties to the contract and the pricing will be based on the existing ones that they quoted. So I'm gonna try to push for that, because it's quicker. All right. But I can't confirm that for sure. I just don't want us to do this process over and over again once we sat on the number of houses and started that process. Yeah, I don't think it'll take as long going forward. I think we got it all figured out now. Thank you. Thank you, man. Any other questions on any other items? Just a comment, Mayor. Agenda item number eight for the public, some exciting things going on on the South Main Street side of the downtown corridor. I'm looking forward to seeing that streetscaping project happen. Who would approve this question? Madam Clerk, could you read the roll please? Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Rickerman. Aye. The ordinance's first reading, item 14 is ordinance number 2023-013, granting an encroachment to Waverly Hospital owner LLC for the use of the right of way areas of the 2,200 block of Hampton Street and the 1,400 block of Pine Street, the installation and maintenance of sidewalks and stairs adjacent to 2,200 Hampton Street in Richland Town. Your move. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? I want to thank staff for helping get this done. This is a great project. Very excited about what's going to happen on that corner of Oak and Pine and Senate and Pine, excuse me. Jervais. Jervais. So Pine and Hampton. Hampton, yes. I keep going one block ahead. I walk that block so many times, but excited about what's being done there. So with that, Madam Clerk, could you read the roll? Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Mayor Reubenan. Aye. Item 15, ordinance number 2,0203014, granting an encroachment to the South Carolina Department of Parks, Recreation, and Tourism for the use of the right of way area of the 1,900 block of Lincoln Street. Motion to approve. Second. Motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none, seeing none. Madam Clerk, could you read the roll, please? Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Reubenan. Aye. Item 16, ordinance number 2,0203016, granting an encroachment to Benton Crossing, LP for the use of the right of way areas of the 2,600 block of River Drive and the 1,100 block of Benton Street for the installation and maintenance of curb cuts, crosswalks, sidewalks, landscaping, and irrigation adjacent to 2,617 River Drive in Richland County. Motion to approve. Second. Second. Any discussion, questions, concerns? Hearing none, seeing none. Madam Clerk, could you read the roll, please? Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Reubenan. Aye. Resolutions item 17, resolution number R 2,022100, authorizing construction and improvements by the South Carolina Department of Transportation, SCDOT of Hardin Street, SS10, Blossom Street, US 21. Second. A motion and a second. Any questions, any concerns? Hearing none, seeing none. Madam Clerk. Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Reubenan. Aye. Item 18, resolution number R, 2,022101, providing funds to C-E-Z Inc. for support of Marketplace Project. A motion to approve. Second. There's a motion and a second for clarification for the public. I had somebody reach out to me. This is actually funding that comes from the state. We are just simply the pass through for that money for the state to go to that project. Any other comments or questions? Hearing none, seeing none. Madam Clerk, could you read the roll, please? Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Reubenan. Aye. Item 19, resolution number R, 2,020300, to authorizing the city manager to execute a lease agreement between the city of Columbia and Imagine Inc. for the lease of 335 Richland Street in Richland County for the development of a Columbia hydrogen fueling station and center for transportation in the environment. Not a motion. Is there a second? Second. Just for the public's notice, this was a hydrogen station that was built almost a decade ago with state funding to fund a hydrogen bus that was here for a short period of time. And now we have an opportunity to work with a company here that has started doing research and development of a way to take hydrogen and containerize it to move it forward. And so by us using that facility and allowing them to put their product showcasing, we're hoping that's going to grow some more opportunities here. So it's a great way for us to use an asset that has been underutilized to bring opportunities for small business. So we're excited about this one. Madam Clark, could you read the roll? Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Rickamon. Aye. Thank you. Item 20, resolution number R-203-006, authorizing the city manager to execute an option to purchase lease agreement, option to purchase agreement between the city of Columbia and Fox Fire Management Company, LLC, as well as any documents necessary to consummate the purchase of 118. Move approval. Is there a second? Second. Any questions, concerns? It's a great option. Thank you all for bringing it forward. Good for us in the city. With that, Madam Clark, could you read the roll? Ms. Herbert. Aye. Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Rickamon. Aye. Thank you. Moving into other matters, item 21, fiscal year 2022-2023, Hospitality Tax Committee recommendations for the second round allocations. Ms. Missy Kauffman, our Director of Budget Program Management and Grants, is here to assist you. If you have any questions. Move approval of the committee's recommendations. Second. Any questions, comments, concerns? Hearing none, seeing none, we'll move it forward. I want to thank the committee. They took, saved some money from the first round, left it out there so that we have an opportunity to provide some funding in a second round. And I appreciate all your hard work. And thank you for doing that, because I know this is very important to the groups who came back and asked for it. And I hope that next year we'll be able to give you just as much money, if not more, to continue doing what you're doing in our community. But thank you. With that, Madam Clerk, could you read the roll? Dr. Bussells. Aye. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. McDowell. Yes. Mr. Duvall. Aye. Mayor Rickamon. Aye. Mayor Rickamon. Yes. Can I ask the Hospitality Committee to stand, please? Thank you for the word. Thank you. And at this point, if City Council has any committee referrals, reports, and new business. Mr. Brennan. Yes. Mr. Mayor had a wonderful first meeting of the Community Development Committee today. And we'd like to send to the Community Development Committee the exploration of a town and gown organization to have that conversation what structure it might look like as we reach out to our IR Ed and education institutions about participating in that and exactly what that would entail. Well, it's your lucky day. I just happen to have a folder that I'm completing to hopefully send out to everyone to look over that we've been working on. Fantastic. Perfect timing for community development. Ascended to the community development. You got it. It's the right wing committee. Mr. Mayor, just to announce, our Ministry of Policy Committee will meet January 21st. 31st, I'm sorry, 1 o'clock p.m. Any other updates, committee referrals at the point of public input? Is there anybody who would like to speak on any subject? The podium is yours. Yes, ma'am. My name is Stephanie Malora Bailey. And I wanted to take a few minutes to chat with you guys about the small business that I own here in Five Points. I own Southern Cyprus tattoo in the heart of Five Points. I was fortunate enough to open my business in 2019 and survive a very brutal pandemic. And actually, as we reopened, we grew and we flourished a lot. And I reached the point in my business where it was time for me to expand. So imagine my delight when the unit across the street became available. And I was speaking with the landlords and was given the opportunity to expand my business into that unit, only to find out that the city council has enacted an ordinance, no longer allowing tattoo shops to be within 1,000 feet of another tattoo shop, literally within 200 feet of myself. So what I would like the council to consider and what I would love further discussion on is possibly a variance or a changing of the language of the existing ordinance to basically say that an existing tattoo shop can expand within the 1,000 feet that it already occupies. I love the community of Five Points. I serve on the board of directors for the Five Points Association. This is my home. These are my people. And I want to see my business continue to grow in the community that I love and that I serve. And I would love further discussion and the possibility for that to happen for my small business. Can I ask a question? Go ahead. Mr. Duvall. You weren't quite close enough to the microphone for my ears, so I'll let me ask you a question. OK. You have an existing shop in Five Points. I do. And it's across the street from the place you want to open? Yes. I outgrew the space that I currently occupy. I'm on Green Street right across from Andy's Deli. And to my delight, my business kept getting bigger and bigger. And I need a little bit more room. And the unit directly across from me came available. And that's where I would like to be able to expand my business into. Do you intend to shut down your original business? No, I just want to grow. She didn't have the space, so she's trying to take two spaces. Mr. Mayor, I think that's the dilemma. So your present business across from Andy's, you want to expand that business, but keep the business across from Andy's? I would like to have both. You'd like to have both? Yes. And that's why you're asking for variants, right? Yes. Because it's not technically connected. We just kind of look at each other. So I'd be able to run both the locations simultaneously right there, because we're both directly across from Andy's Deli. That's just one follow-up. How many employees do you expect to hire with the expansion of that? So currently, my existing studio is 600 square feet. I have three booths. At a minimum, our booths have to be 64 square feet, according to DHEC. So in those three booths, I currently employ five full-time tattoo artists. In the hopes of expanding, I'd like to add three more booths, and I'd like to add two more employees plus another front desk person. Mr. Mayor, I have a question actually for our planning staff. So based on the information that was shared with us about the unified development ordinance, I think it says that tattoo parlors must be 1,000 feet from other tattoo. Does this count as another, even though it's the same business owner? There are Sickle and Moon is right next door to us, as well as Born Again. And as a small business community of tattoo artists, they are also in full support of my expansion and said they'd be happy to help out in any way that they could. It's a little bit of a gray area as I already exist within 1,000 feet. But the reason we're on top of each other is because of other ordinances not allowing us to be within 1,000 feet of a school, church, or playground. So that's why you find us all in the same area. Ms. Hampton, is that part of unified? That's not the overlay, correct? So what I'm asking from City Council is just to allow my small business to grow a little bit in the community that I serve. I know it's a bit of a gray area considering I already exist, but I'd love further discussion and to be able to do that. Yeah, and I think we need to have further, but at the same time, we also have to understand the parameters because not everybody is a good business person like you are. And we find that challenge with other businesses not trying to pick on. We've helped a young lady who moved on to Main Street who had a struggle with DHEC over 400 feet. I previously worked for her, so yes. Great, so if we can. I'd like to refer this to a committee for discussion. That's not public safety. Can we add it to the administration? Or economic development. Or economic development. Which one do we have the next meeting? It goes to you. In your opinion. Mr. Mayor, I would suggest. Economic development, probably. Yeah, economic development. Let's bring this up. Economic development, have some conversation around. See, because you're in a unique position, too, which makes it even harder. I wish I could just tell you right now we can fix it tonight, but we can't. But we're willing to have that discussion. I'd be happy to have that discussion and attend any meeting that I can to further the cause. We'll be in touch. And we probably have to come to our economic development, which do we have one at the end of the month? February 14th at 1 PM. Is the earliest? Yes, sir. We'll get back to you. If we have some other items, maybe we can move that agenda around. I will clear my calendar whenever I'm needed. Thank you. Because I think she's going to be busy on Valentine's Day. She's not going to be able to come up here. But thank you for coming up. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else? Ms. Whitney Denton? She's just signed in to make sure we knew she was here. Yes, sir. She's in charge of snacks next meeting. Anyone else? With that, I'll entertain a motion. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion. We go into executive session for discussion of the employment of employee pursuant to SC code 30-4S781 communications plan receipt of legal advice relating to a pending threat and a potential claim pursuant to SC code 30-4S782, Lake Katherine, sewer improvements. Is there a second? Second. Any discussions, questions? If not, Madam Clerk, could you read the role, please? Ms. Herbert? Aye. Dr. Bustle? Aye. Mr. Brennan? Yes. Mr. McDowell? Yes. Mr. Duvall? Aye. Mayor Rickigan? Aye. Thank you.