 We will be able to have lasting impact on our project. That's why we are not only working with the victims of sex trafficking. We are also working with key stakeholders, policy makers. We had representatives from different NGOs and INGs that are working for those girls. We also had representatives from the police department. We also had some lawyers. So first we want to see a policy level impact from the top. And then we also want to work with community. And also we want to see policy at the grassroot level. That's why we hope that because we are working with key stakeholders and also with community. So we hope that we can bring a positive impact or a sustainable impact of our project. We are reaching out to the grassroot level from the bottom of our approach where we engage with the communities, the girls themselves. And we include their voices in this research. The reason why we are including their voices in this research is because the policies that are going to be designed is meant for them. So it's important for their own experience and their voice to be central in this whole discussion. Because we notice that over time their voices are missing from this table, this discussion. So including their voices means that they are part of that policymaking process. Their experiences which are very unique to them are being heard and it's been included in the whole process. So when they are part of a design of an intervention, that intervention becomes a lasting and sustainable one. Because research evidence shows that when people are part of the decision-making project, they try to sustain it. And the OU has helped us in achieving this by linking us with the community stakeholders and the research teams we work with in this community. And this is something that OU has done really very well. We are being trained to have those research skills that enables us to go in there and carry out research that is co-creative for the community. I think the greatest thing for me joining the OU is this aspect of having to do co-creative research with the communities. And this is an experience I've gained from working in the OU where we're not going into that community to help solve a problem. We're going there to understand that the community have their own expertise and knowledge of how to solve their own problem. So we're only going there to support them to ensure that they advance what they are doing and make it better and make it more sustainable. What OU does with research is different from what many other universities do with their research. Like here at the Open University, our research aims to bring a sustainable change in the society. So what we do here is like in our example as well, what we did was we started with resource activities. We really wanted to understand the kind of challenges that the victims of sex trafficking are facing in their lives and what kind of need they have with the evidence that we collected or with our learnings from our resource activities. We designed, we organized other activities to work with key stakeholders that work for the victims of sex trafficking. So that's why we use resource as a support to work with key people or key stakeholders to bring sustainable change in the society. The OU's approach to research is not the saviour's approach to a community. They understand that these communities are experts in their own experiences. And so what we do at the OU is that we engage the communities themselves. We're bringing their voices, their experiences, their perspectives into our research design. Because we understand that when we're bringing the voices and the experiences of those who are central in our research into the design, then those research projects will actually be accepted by the community. And we've got a lot of research where the researchers coming from the global north down to the global south and just stay two weeks and carry data. We don't do extractive research in the OU. We do research that is beneficial to the community. We do research that helps sustain the community, that builds capacity within the community. I think that's one of the things that all of the highlights for me when I joined the OU is to understand that our research approach at OU is not extractive. It's actually giving back to the community and getting experience. It's a shared responsibility between the community and the researchers. We work together with the girls to design interventions that are sustainable, interventions that are sensitive to their experiences, interventions that actually understand the journey of trauma they've been through without neglecting that experience. So I think when we work in that kind of co-creative approach, it's a buying for us really. It's a buying because we're not going to be meeting resistance in those communities. The communities understand that we're there to support what they know is working to get better, not coming to bring in the solution. Because we found out from evidence that when you're coming with that deficit model into a community that it hits the rock or it doesn't succeed beyond that research process or that research life, after the research life, the project just dies. When the community is part of that process, then that project can't be sustained by the communities themselves. We are really encouraged to work for the community. So whenever we plan for a resource project, then we first think about what can we do for the community, for our resource community. So we are really mindful about the kind of impact we can have from our research or from our other activities that we do. So I think we both of us, we are really passionate about making a positive impact on our work in the society. We really want to contribute to stopping this sex trafficking, which is a heinous war from this world. And then we want to contribute to making this world a better place to live.