 Kanye has played a big part in the whole movement. And I remember when him and Drake was going through their thing, right? Did your dad have anything to do with bringing them together? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was just the idea of, so, see, my father was always one to try to bring peace and try to think what would make sense. Yeah, we on boss talk, one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. Well, that's good that you were able to see, you know, go visit him on a very regular basis and stuff like that to see him, because a lot of people don't have that opportunity to do that with their fathers, you know, to have him still be in your life. You know, we have to always be thankful for the little things, because sometimes some parents, some kids never got to visit there, you know, because of the mothers keeping them away or just different things. And you had that blessing. I know that he's not here, and hopefully one day he will be here. Yeah, we fighting for it, we gonna keep fighting. Yeah, you don't have another choice, you're all the way in, you're all the way in. So, I mean, you know, the thing I just think about, you know, is, you know, you being out and you being out and about trying to find your way, and then having to deal with that, it's really pretty much, like I said earlier, off the camera, you was locked up just as well, you know, because of having to be into it so much. I look at that same thing as the guards and everybody else that worked there. My daughter works at a prison facility, and it's the same thing. You going in and do a lock or whatever, or you going in there for visitation. Were you able to hug him at an early age and stuff, like at the state level? Oh yeah, man, that's, that's a big thing that I always think about now. As I was growing up, I see him and every time when I get ready to leave, he hugged me, kissed me, you know what I mean, and I push him away, because I didn't want him to. And then it got to the point where they moved him into this federal situation. And you couldn't do that. And I can't touch him. And you know what I mean, I missed them hugs and them kisses. Man, that's real. But that's just you being a kid, because even my son right now, dropping him off at school. Man, you know, I'm glad you said that you the baby boy, ain't you? Yeah. How it is? I know it was going to come up. The baby boy wanted hugs all the time in that way. No, no, no, no, no, no. Now's man, he be in my bed, like he ain't gonna, like he supposed to be there. No, I didn't want no hugs at all. Damn man, yeah. No, he don't want, I want the hugs. That's a warning. I want the hugs. He be like, trying to, like, I be dropping him off at school and he be like, no, hug me around the corner. Don't hug me right here. Embarrassed dude in front of his own boys, man. Right. Stop playing. And now because I can't, I hug and try to kiss my son. He be fighting, he kind of big too. What I be trying to get him is because I'm 15. Yeah, I'm 14. He'll be 15 in a little bit. But he's my height. Yeah, he's a big kid. Have you taken him to see his granddad? Oh yeah, he goes. Okay, so he knows him. Yeah, not as much as he liked to go, but you know, it's Colorado, it's a full trip. Yeah, yeah, definitely man. What I wanted to know, because when I was in some interviews and you were telling me that Kanye has played a big part in the whole movement. And I remember when him and Drake was going through his, their thing, right? Did your dad have anything to do with bringing them together? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was just the idea of, so see my father was always wanted to try to bring peace and try to think what would make sense. So just to see those guys being the top artists in the world, you know, and pretty much going at it and having beef and maybe getting to a situation where one of them, somebody gets hurt and maybe ruins one of their careers for people around them to get hurt. So he just, you know, felt like something should better be done to bring those guys together to, you know what I mean? Squash that and set an example for the other artists up under them because he sees what's going on with these artists on the news and what have you. And he's like, wow, what's going on with these guys? They have an opportunity to make this money and make changes for their family and for their community. But yeah, they're killing each other. They get to this position and then they die in front of the world. Like it's a action movie or something. But him being locked up, kind of when you're locked up and you see things on TV, you get certain notions about what's going on out here, but it's totally different from being out here. When you try to explain certain things to him, does he understand the difference? Oh, well, he, so he knows people and people's mannerism and people's ways, but a lot of this stuff- The way how things are now. Yeah, a lot of this stuff, he came really understand how it's going, the way that it's going. He's like saying, there's nobody that can put a stop to this, calm him down. Yeah, so it's not something that he understands. Yeah. How old is he? Now you're about to get down. How old is your father? 71. 71 years old, what? It doesn't do them any good to hold him like that, incarcerated right now. Spent after doing all the time that he's done. I just, I don't see the, I don't see nothing that, who gets something out of that? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That to me, that's from a weird place. That's from an evil place, bro. Yeah. You know where I'm coming from. Yeah, I know you're coming from. What, what, what is, what harm is he doing to anyone at, right, like that? I mean, he hasn't been in contact with anyone in- That's what I'm saying. Yeah, over, over 20 years. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk.