 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump, mind pump with your hosts Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews In this controversial Oh shit, was it? Buckle the fuck out of mind pump for the first 38 minutes Adam Justin and myself Piss some people off to our fun conversation. Finally. It's been a while. We talk about my Star Wars Spoiler you dick dun dun dun No, Luke is no, don't Darth Vader's son. Yeah We talk about news we talk about Jim Carrey and artists in general how tormented they are and how we like them tormented Cuz they make the best art that way. They're the best. We talk about my experience with vertigo the other day Fucking sucked We talked about the health IQ quiz that we took look we recommend you go to health IQ comm forward slash mind pump take the quiz See if you could beat my score of a hundred and eighty six I think Adam scored a hundred eighty six also Justin hasn't taken it yet. He's afraid. I got called out But he will soon. Hey, I'm on it right now. We mentioned organifies gold juice again, which I've tried they still haven't tried They are one of our living in the green so if you go to organifyshop.com forward slash mind pump You will get a discount. We also talk about my supplement Addiction really is it an addiction? Then we talked about cannabis addiction Adam's dream interpretation We think he's in love with Doug. We talk about sleep deprivation driving citations and my old crazy insurance Premiums yeah, then we get into the questions this individual is saying that she's constantly being told that lifting weights won't make women bulky But she just looks at a weight and she puts on tons of muscle Is she an exception to the rule? Is she a genetic freak? Congratulations, or is she just freaking out next question is what are our thoughts on carb cycling for fat loss in? comparison to intermittent fasting and maintaining consistent daily intake what are our thoughts on these things comparing them Do you think do we think intermittent fasting should be used for fat loss? Do we like carb cycling find out in this episode then we get to a controversial one? Oh boy, we give out our opinions on net Neutrality we pull no punches We try to inform you guys with what we think is the truth Enjoy that part of the affair police will love this then we get into the final question Do we think that when we're children we automatically know how to eat intuitively, but then life fucks everything up There's some truth to that you'll find out in this episode also We're in December. That means next month is January. That's the beginning of the year start the new year off Right everybody wants to get in shape in January. 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I don't know there was an option I didn't know there was an option to do subtitles Yeah, you do you could option. I hate watching dubbed films because we're spoiled first of all We're American right so everything we sees in English in Europe. They see lots of dubbed films But yeah, I hate dubbed films because they don't always translate Well, it never line up. Yeah, it never matches the the people doing the voices never match the personality. It's not just that It's more distract. It doesn't match the acting. It's like it's like a skinny little blonde girl And I'm like, I know that's a big fat black guy that's fucking talking Doesn't work man doesn't work for me. It's like hey, man, and there's a delay, right? So there's that delay it just doesn't it doesn't match the acting but anyway, it was cool as one episode I'm sure I have to watch more the second one got me hooked Okay, I'll watch and so I'm on four or five now and it's Really just really starting to pick up my boy told me he's like dude wait till you get to have five episodes deep Because it's there's the story is so big and there's so many lakes to it. I'm like after episode one I was like what the fuck episode two. I'm like and now who's that and I'm trying to put together like who's married to who I know he's banging her. Yeah, there's yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of shwerking moving parts I was just cave. So I watched one episode the first one which was pretty fascinating And then I went and got the midnight showing of Star Wars you too Spoiler alert if you if you don't want to spoiler play your ears everybody dies Leia trip of this Princess Leia Darth Vader's daughter shut up Can you believe what happened Yoda? I'm so angry about this dude. I seriously have to wait till Saturday to watch Fuck well, you know, I'm wait till I'm surprised. You actually just didn't pony up and get another ticket and go go early And then fucking dude. I have kids and like, you know, I can't just I'm just gonna go. Yeah, I'm so free. Yeah, like I don't forget. I can't do that Like I really want to do that Adam sometimes forgets that you can't just decide to do something No, you guys never fail to remind me all the perks of having children. Yeah, you're free. Sorry. I get it Sorry Katrina. Yeah, we're the reason why out of what have kids Right what he thinks about it right when he's like, you know, I might have one. He has a conversation with me and Justin Yeah, I'll wait. Oh, oh quiet time is when you go poop. That's the only time it's quiet Dude, can we can we fix the fucking ac or heater in here or whatever's going on? Definitely not the ac dude. It's uh, so I'm never cold So you're not and you are this time. So here's what's crazy two things ice box two things I came in this morning. Hello early, right two things. I saw hello. I saw a penguin There was a penguin in here. Yep. So that I'm like well a polar bear is probably just me I'm like it's fucking cold. There's a penguin in here And then no all joking aside. This is how cold I got in the studio You could breathe you're talking you can see your breath. It's not supposed to be like that indoor super cold You know, you said penguin just reminded me of Jim Carrey. Did you guys watch the Netflix thing of Jim Carrey? Did you? Oh, you haven't seen that. No. Oh, fuck. I thought I thought you told me to carry. I told you to watch it But I haven't seen it. Oh, you need to watch it. Yeah, you need to watch it. I'm gonna watch it I love Jim Carrey. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah, it's really sad. So apparently he went Out in the woods and ate a bunch of mushrooms and totally changed. That's not the one or is that different This one he's doing he doesn't Kaufman, right? This this one's about no, this is about his life Like he breaks down like but it's he doesn't get into although It seems like a result of going and taking mushrooms and like kind of how he feels But he doesn't say that like he doesn't talk anything about psychedelics or anything like that He just gets into like his whole life and they uh, they who was the guy is Andy Kaufman was the comedian, right? He's the one that like purposely would do shit to just confuse everybody and like oh my god A genius weird. Yeah. He was like way too beyond everybody shared all the clips behind the scene Of him getting ready for that film and it's fucking. He kind of loses his mind. Yeah He loses his mind, you know, I've heard about this before you went full Kaufman I've heard about this before with actors were to the point where the director like called him and was like Like you're right. Yeah. No, he was like dude I I don't know if we can continue this film type of deal because they he could he would never get out of character Uh, even offset method is that that's something that the something method method actor. Yeah, so it's called there I go it's called a method actor But even then like it was to the extreme Yeah, it was like to the extreme where he caused like people like fist fights like guys trying to punch him on set Like it was oh, you guys got to watch it. It's over the top. You have to feel kind of sad. You have to understand that Artists some of the best artists musicians actors, you know, just the best artists are The reason why they're so good and the reason why they strike a nerve and accord with people and they resonate with people Is because they feel Everything and they're all slightly Crazy and I don't mean that in the negative. Sometimes it can be it's like Daniel Day Lewis And he's the best because he'd like fully Immerses himself as that person lives like that person for those years and then it just shows This is why you have all these musicians and artists and even before Musicians made tons of money and had all that access to drugs and a lot of stuff Even if you go back far enough like the famous artists, uh, you know, like uh, monay and all these other You know cutting their ears off and doing all these weird things It's because they feel so much that they're tormented by it And they and and it and it and they express it and it relieves some of this This whatever they feel there's too much that they feel we get to enjoy it But they're in constant. Isn't that interesting. Have you ever met like an insanely good artist that isn't somewhat fucked up? You have to be oh, I don't know if you have to be I hate to say that but you're right I'm sure there is you know, there's somebody pretty balanced and had like a good childhood and all that Well, it makes sense that you're you're going to be out of balance somewhere else Right like if you are over the top talented in an area and I think that goes for almost anything Because I feel this even this we're talking about like artists right now But I think this translates even with like You're super techy smart guy, right the guy who's like brilliant, right? Just absolutely brilliant his math all his eggs are just there Right exactly everything is there which makes him so brilliant in this category, but then socially he's like retarded Did you know I'm saying like you can't have a conversation with somebody he gets nervous and he probably shits himself Like when he doesn't talk to it No, really though, how many guys have you met like this that people idolize because they're they're brilliant Yeah, but then on the but then some of the most simple things that they're disconnected. Well, so Anybody who's on the extreme end of the spectrum, uh, there's a high so if you're extreme end of the spectrum with art math skills Anything on the extreme end. There's a very strong correlation with mental health issues also. So anxiety depression manic depression mania Schizophrenia highly correlated with high intelligence How how crazy is that right just be and it really if you think about it this way like If you look at human evolution here, I go again, right if you look at all human evolution you imagine Humans as this big Organism those individuals within that right, but you look at this whole wide spectrum of humans It makes sense that for the human species to propagate and to succeed The vast majority Of the individuals that make up that human species have to be average This the vast majority have to be average and average means balanced not crazy Can do a little bit of this a little bit of that whatever But it also makes sense that a small percentage of them Have to be extreme because it's those extreme individuals that break through the stretch the boundaries and right and everybody else Exactly. They're the ones that are like, hey, let's get out of this cave and let's try going over that mountain Everybody's like you're fucking and then it benefits the whole and and some many times it doesn't but sometimes it does So it makes sense that the extremes are you're going to see a stronger correlation For a lot of these different things. So don't feel so bad if you feel like you're a little crazy Maybe you're just super smart. Yeah Maybe use it. Maybe you're just like a lightning bolt speaking of going crazy Uh Not yesterday the day before Oh god, I hate this. So you guys know what happened I get up and so in the middle of the night I go to stretch And the room starts spinning in the middle of the night. So I fucking calm down I laid down first. I just kind of sat there kind of went away and I went back to sleep wake up in the morning and The way I wake up in the morning is my alarm goes off and I jump out of bed It's just I wake up like a uh, like uh, you ever watch Dracula when he sits up from his coffin That's how I wake up in the morning people my friends used to make fun of me when I do sleepovers So I wake up and I sit up and the and the room is It feels like I'm on the playground spinning thing when you were a kid Oh, shit, like imagine like that kind of spinning. Yeah, so I sit up and I'm like oh vodka does it Oh, so I lay back and I'm like fuck So, you know, Jessica is like, oh my god, what's the matter? What's the matter? I'm like the room is so it's spinning spinning. So I'm laying there And I'm waiting for it to kind of calm down a little bit and it's vertigo. I've had it before It's a benign positional something vertigo So I've had it before so then I'm able to and that's and it sucks because I had to I couldn't come to work And I apologize about that I finally got myself to be able to move a little bit stand up And so I started doing these uh epply maneuvers that I learned Well, we should tell everybody too that we can't you cancel we canceled San Diego Which because some people on our forum knew that we were going down to see move you jocco and yeah, my fault Yeah, that's all bad. Yeah, if you guys were really looking forward to that. That's all south's fault. That's my fault So that's why I'm telling the story It's not because we wanted to watch Star Wars Yeah, and I don't even get to go like if you canceled, you know, I could have scheduled I did a lot of ruining. I did a lot of ruining Listen, but I did these these Epply maneuvers which then kind of remedy it a little bit and it just fucking reminds you of just how like lucky you are To feel good and what it feels like because there's people who have that all the time Well, they'll have it for months. I couldn't imagine. What a nightmare. Oh, that would drive me crazy That's crazy. That would drive. Yeah, that would drive me Insane to feel like that all the time but luckily for me when I do the epply maneuvers Um, I end up it takes most of it away and then I just kind of feel Like right now I feel a little off. You don't know really what causes this to happen or what? Well, so in the inner ear the inner ear is what Senses motion and if you're standing or upside down or whatever And there's there there's this fluid that floats around on there and these like yeah I think that there's these little hairs in there that detect motion And the crystals get formed in there and I'm not sure if they get forming everybody or just in people who get Who are prone to vertigo? I believe it's in everybody But if they get dislodged these crystals can give you the false perception of motion And the epply maneuvers what they what they do is they try to get the crystals to move in a position or in a place That doesn't cause is this so you do these weird head positions and stuff like that line your chakras Yeah, exactly when you do it. Do you is it like instantly you can tell a difference or is it take So so mine was my left ear. So that's how so identified it was my left ear And what you do is I'll sit up. So I'm sitting upright I'll look to the left and then I'll sit I'll lay back real quickly And I'll know it's my left ear because I'm looking to the left. I lay back and then my eyes go crazy It's the craziest thing and if I hadn't learned this I trained in ear nose and throat specialist years ago Who I had mild vertigo and he did this for me So that's how I knew it because if I didn't know this I would have freaked out and thought I was getting a brain tumor So I lay back my my eyes go back and forth like that would trip me out Fucking weird and it feels terrible You and then you wait and it starts to calm down Then it kind of stops then you change to the other position So now I'm looking to the right and then I move my body to the right and then I sit up And I do this and I do it one or one to three times or whatever and you feel a big relief in The vertigo But then you still feel kind of uneasy. So like like today I still was two days later I still feel a little bit a little kind of often weird But it was way better like it got way better and that whole day I was pretty bad still but it wasn't so bad to the point where Like I couldn't walk dude. It was really fucking so mean. I should hang you upside down No, dude mad at all. That'd be terrible. Yeah, that'd be a horrible. So right now. You still don't feel 100% normal I feel like you said like you're on a boat or something. You know when you get off a boat Yeah, that's I feel like like I just got off a boat. Wow. So yeah, we've kind of these moments So you're like, whoa, just like a little in the background kind of crappy. Yeah, you're like, oh, you know I basically want to eat more. Believe it or not. Oh, it does. Yeah, because uh, I don't know you were eating you were eating Like no carbs yesterday, huh? So yeah, so yeah, so what I was doing is Some people believe that stress or Lack of sleep or inflammation. I'm sure inflammation the inner ear ear can probably contribute to it So I'm just like look here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go Keto-ish fast try and bring down my inflammation. I got a lot of sleep that night. I went to bed at 8 30 at night and Just trying to nip it in the bud. So it doesn't come back But you guys see all the health IQ people there are all the all our form members and stuff that are posting up their scores Did anybody beat us? No, no one's beat us yet, but we got a couple people get close I saw I saw 176 or 178 this morning. Yeah, you're not gonna beat us Just not gonna happen you say that Bring it go. This is what you do go to health IQ. What's the website? Doug is it health IQ? Dot com forward slash mind pump forward slash mind pump take their health IQ test And if you beat our score me and adam got I think we got 186. Yeah 186 I'm gonna double check because if it's if it's higher than that. No, it's well, that's I think I'm almost positive That's what I got you are. Yeah. Yeah, I picture my other phone captured If I if you beat 186 post it on Instagram and tag us well post it even if you don't I don't want to see everybody score. No, I'm telling them So my health IQ was 186 out of 200 760 points it says if you beat that tag us on instagram and uh that way you can talk a little shit I don't think anyone's gonna beat us. Oh, that's the thing. Yeah, my challenge is interesting. I dare you I dare you there's some there's some questions on there. I mean going back now I see how they positioned it. I could I would have done better, but it was they're bullshit to me I shouldn't have missed any of those dude. I was like this is this is I wanted to argue I guess it's on the clock, right? So it's timing and I'm like bullshit. I'm sure this is not true Some of the questions are they try to trick you on a couple and they're not all they're not super easy No, no, I was actually I was surprised. I thought wow if the average Yeah, the average now we have really smart people in the forum So it makes sense to me to see these 170 scores people passing and stuff like that But you know, if you're just like an average Jane or Joe with like no, you know anatomy physiology type of background like Those weren't easy. Yeah. Yeah, they were they were I've I've taken some certification tests that were easier than that So that easier questions than that. So I can't wait for Justin to take it. Yeah I think he's nervous. Uh-huh. I'm gonna use nervous probably free today You don't have to just want you to take it because uh, you know, I want to make sure he doesn't cheat We're trying to help him Oh Anyway, just kind of yeah, but he's he well, you know, he hasn't been doing the health IQ But he's been at least he's been using the organifi stuff like crazy. Oh, dude How you liking that? At least you're on board with one of our sponsors. Yeah, but I'm not getting the you know, the gold yet. So it's coming, dude Okay, I think it should uh, shana said it should be here either today or next week Doug if that comes up if that pops up anytime when we're recording all day today I'd like to know so we could drink some of that today Yeah, I'll go check it in the box. It's tasty and um anti inflammatory based and Calming now. Do you know when we first got that gold drink? It came here. I opened the box I saw it in there one canister. Yeah, so I opened it up, right and I tried it and it's very good Very tasty. So I think you know, I set it down I tried it. I set it down in the next get day. It was gone You can okay if you guys if you guys have not noticed this yet Sal has a little bit of a problem He's got a problem that he doesn't want to admit or share with you. He is a supplement addict. He is no no no Yeah, no, I see him a fitness expose No, I'm a supplement whore. Yeah, very different He he does these things that uh, I you know, I catch him doing everyone's well And the way he's like a like a bear where he leaves like a trail of shit behind him You know I'm saying like I see the wrappers and I'm like I go in the closet Which I organize so I know this right so I organize all the supplements in in order so they're all nice and stuff And I go in there and I'm like every day I go in there and there's like a new box That's opened up and a fucking wrapper in there and I'm just like powder. Yeah, so I strewn everywhere I've caught him in between sets and things that were recording He sneaks into the fucking closet and he sucks down some of these powders and bills If you were if you were a good empathetic friend, you'd realize it was a call for help I'm leaving. I'm leaving little signs little flags out there. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna have to talk to Sean I don't know how much longer we keep these supplements for sponsors No, I want you to get out of control the only ones I use consistently are It's not consistent. That's what's funny is it's you're always trying something. Yeah, why not? It's like you're making cocktails cocktails in the closet. You know what it is You know, we have our sponsors because we like their stuff But then we have all these other companies that send us stuff all the time. Yeah, and we don't talk about them No, we don't talk about so don't like them Hey, look if you sent us something we haven't talked about it yet. I'm sorry Or sometimes we try it and we get I'm gonna say we as a collective here get so high from it Yeah, we can't talk about something else That's when we got that that cannabis Sprits No, not just that the the first the the green one that one got me really good And then we then the newest soda one I mean that I remember the guy was telling me he's like, oh, yeah one can's like nothing I drank like a half a can of that stuff and I was lit dude. I want a cannabis smoker, dude I smoke pretty regularly. They make some of these things like too strong. It's way too strong too strong Way too strong. I want to be able to enjoy the whole so I don't want to open a soda and have half of it What does that tell you about the market? Oh, I use a bunch of stoners running it. Well, not just that well when I run the clubs This is what was the challenge, right? So when we when we started when we started them We were trying to like legitimize them and appeal to the You know 70 year old grandma that has arthritis and you know people that are like that and then like this Young kid who their parent comes in like we really wanted to provide this like professional environment And it just wasn't there yet And that wasn't a they were they represented the 10% the 90% where people that were just trying to get the strongest I was gonna say it seems like a competition to just see who can put out the strongest absolutely Absolutely where cookies are 10 dosers and she like that. I'm pro legalization. I'm pro do whatever you want to your body There's definite benefits of cannabis But don't fucking bullshit me and tell me it doesn't have addictive properties when You've got motherfuckers taking who need 50 to 100 milligrams of thc in a serving just to feel just to feel it You're addicted homie. Yeah, you got a problem and there's a lot of people with a problem with this kind of stuff Yeah, yeah I will and you know and it's a sensitive place to touch right because most people start with it Just like anything else because they're medicating something some condition or whatever that hurts them But it's no different to me than seeing somebody who gets addicted to paying killers and starts with that It's safer. I understand. It's definitely safer. Probably not going to kill you all that stuff but You've got a little bit of an issue going on. Let's be honest It is addictive anything that by the way anything that you like is addictive It doesn't have to have necessarily physiological addictive properties. Well, you can be behavioral based. I mean you get you have behavioral addiction to it For sure, which I I mean, I'm always very aware when I catch myself though when I find this like I just naturally go to go have my joint at five o'clock at night every single night and I catch myself doing that back-to-back nights It's like Okay, like I don't need to do that every single night. You know I'm saying like this is not one of those nights Where I really need to set the you know I'm saying that but I will say this I'll make this argument all day long and I guarantee I'll bet I'll bet money on this that we are going to start to see because now it's It's uh easier to study. There's more people using it. We are already seeing now There's a there's a there was a rate still rare a rare condition where if you use too much cannabis You develop this condition where you have this constant vomiting no joke and it's result of overexposure to phyto cannabinoids we're now seeing it on the rise because People have more access to higher potencies of cannabis or using lots and lots of it It's not toxic. So they're just pushing the doses now you're getting more and more people where we never this was a very rare condition We're seeing it on the rise now where people are going to the hospital They're like I can't stop puking. What's wrong with me? And it's it's because of the abuse of these of these phyto cannabinoids that are found in cannabis But they like to say that there's no physiological dependency That's also bullshit. The reason why we have cannabinoid receptors in our body in the first place is because we make our own cannabinoids called endocannabinoids if I'm taking something externally constantly It is not hard to understand that my body will start to reduce or eliminate its own production of cannabinoids So I'm now going to develop a dependency because I am replacing what my body is supposed to be making With its own endocannabinoids. So now if I go off I'm going to go off I'm going to go through this withdrawal period which can be Mild if you compare it to the withdrawal that you go through with opiates and alcohol and other stuff But it's still it's still is It's still a challenge for some people and if you I depends on what I think so Hey, bro, if you need 50 to 100 milligrams, it's not because your tolerance is higher It's because you've been smoking a lot of fucking weed Like just it's time to back off for the the crazy part though What I love about cannabis is you take like three days off in a row, dude And it's and it's like back to day one again. Yeah, it's crazy You know, so it's not like it takes a ton to like reset that it's it's not like it's not like pills or alcohol Like you go through that like I've been through that like that's a mother fuck That's coming off that is crazy swats and shades. Oh, you can actually die. Yeah, that's crazy Like coming off weeds like no, it's like a little bit of discipline like dude pass on the joint for fucking two or three Days, you're gonna have some weird dreams for a few nights. Yeah, some little sleep some vivid ass dreams I tell you guys about my dream the other day. I never remember my dreams. I never remember my dreams Let's interpret and I had and I had to help them and I had this vivid dream We were all in we're at some like, I don't know where we were right. We were at like Somebody's garage. Is this the one where you had sex with Doug? No, that's the other one. Sorry. That's an old dream I don't want to interpret that It's easy to interpret that one's easy We work through that one. Yeah, so uh this dream where I we're in a we're in and I never remember these things I swear like so it's it's always fascinating to me like if one like sticks to where Not only do I remember in the morning, but I can remember to repeat it or share it to me That doesn't never happen hardly ever happens So this one we're in this garage Uh, someone has like a little at-home gym working out and for some reason like we're they're we're there right away Like I don't know why you guys are all there too You guys are kind of standing out in the front of this house and I'm in the garage talking to the guy And he's a fan of the show He's a music of mind-bump fan and he's telling me like how he how he found the show like oh, yeah I used to follow Craig Capurso. He's a but I mean, oh, yeah Craig. It's my boy Yeah, and we're kind of like chopping it up back and forth He's like man, I don't want to sound like really silly or anything like that But could I get an autograph and I go to give him an autograph and I can't fucking sign my name I can't I just my hands don't work. I can't figure out how to put it together like and it's Fucking freaking me out like it inside like I'm trying to act cool in front of him Like it's no big deal and like Yeah, yeah It reminds me right the only dream I could ever remember that reminds me this was when I was a kid And I haven't had this dream since I was a kid When I was a kid I used to have that dream where my mom would drop me off for school I'd get out of the car and then all said I'd be naked And then I couldn't run away like people would be chasing me and I couldn't run fast enough I also know I'm in slow motion, right? So that was a dream So it was that feeling of anxiety of not being able to like get away It was the same feeling that I had with signing my name. So that's not hard to interpret I know not at all right. I think it's really funny though It's funny because so there's a lot of theories on dreams and what they mean and sometimes they mean nothing and sometimes And what what the one that I subscribe to the one at least that resonates most with me is that you'll have a feeling or an emotion inside of you and when you sleep your brain tries to Make sense of that emotion. Oh, I create totally scenarios totally agree with that So if you're super self-conscious if you don't like the way you look if you feel like you're ugly You may have a dream where your teeth are falling out or your hair is falling out or whatever If you feel like you're gonna be exposed like I don't want people to know about me I don't want people to see what's going on. You may show up naked somewhere, right? Yeah That what yours sounds like to me and I'm not an expert in this but it sounds to me like Uh, there's an anxiety or fear of not being ready for success like it's gonna things are gonna explode You're gonna be successful and then I'm gonna fuck up or I'm not ready for it or it's the anxiety surrounding it Doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing if anything. I think it's good because it shows that It's coming to the forefront. Well, you're thinking about it, right? Like I definitely agree with you because and then when you if you really were to pull the unpack the dream like Uh, I had just recently talked to craig the day before so that makes sense I'm always seeing you guys so it makes sense that you guys were in there I watched juji work out in his garage all times the garage setting kind of looked like his garage You know I'm saying so there's a lot and we've I've had people ask for autographs and things like that So it's like all those and then that's happened more recently than before, right? So all these things are like fresh in my mind and that's that this is my this is like you said This is my mind trying to piece it all together like what I'm feeling That's interesting. You said the one about like like losing your teeth Mine wasn't losing my teeth, but it was grinding to where my teeth were like crumbling when I was talking to somebody And my teeth were just coming like sawdust. Yeah, like turned into powder and I'm like I woke up and oh my god, that's horrible. Yeah dreams are interesting Mysteries interesting fucking mysteries, man. Like you go to sleep first off If you think about sleeping it makes no evolutionary sense It literally makes no evolutionary sense think about it this way You are constantly at threat with predators and stuff You need food for most of human civilization. We starved all the time You need food you should probably it would benefit you to not sleep It would benefit you to be awake and to work and to search for food and to hide and to be aware of your surroundings It makes no sense to be in this state where Shit can sneak up on you eat you where you're eight hours of the of the day or whatever you're wasting You're not doing anything and you're just sitting there in this this Unless like we're so vulnerable unless we're tapped into a huge operating system And it makes sense that we have to charge up every day. We got to charge in it Either that or yeah or you unplug right that's when you're off the video game, right? You're playing a video game for you know 16 hours or whatever for eight hours. You're burning the card card Yeah, you don't want to overheat it and you could push it you could push it two days sometimes Maybe three no sleep, but you keep pushing too much longer. You blow up man. Missing Uh More recent studies show just one night of not sleeping And the vast majority of uh people subjects in the studies have display signs of schizophrenia Totally healthy people. Yeah showing that they're going crazy after what missing one night. That is crazy One night isn't that like the I mean the form of torture like half the time They're just like fucking with people like as they're sleeping. It's a wake lack of bro Have you guys ever you guys ever we just had I just had this the other night Katrina and I both did her and I were up by four in the morning And we like worked all day here. She worked a long old day Then we came home. We had a ton of mind pumps up to where we worked it We worked all the way till like midnight and I remember it about like eight o'clock or so Uh, we both kind of looked at each other and we're we were acting goofy Like we were just all of a sudden I went beyond like when you get beyond tired You get kind of delusional a little bit and you just things are silly and goofy and I have this Like I find that fascinating. It's happened to me multiple times when I've pushed through like when I should go to sleep There are some scary studies from the soviet union and from nazi germany on sleep deprivation because they did some experiments on people Scary shit if you look up and I tell you I'll warn you If you read up on some of these studies, you will have trouble Sleeping because it's they're terrifying what's happened to some of these people just from sleep deprivation They just go like psychotic. Oh, they do crazy horrible I don't even talk about some of the stuff that they would do to themselves Into other people and the psychosis that would involve after like a few days after a few few days of sleep deprivation Yeah, really scary stuff. So anyway, I wanted to say to you guys Because I have more time in the car in the mornings now because um, I don't take carpool anymore You gotta lay lay low just for a little bit I didn't know the ticket goes up after after like it keeps going up Oh if I'm not mistaken because this is this is a this is a pattern that I've had in the past Do you have to wait like three months or what? I think yeah, because I at one point I got three carpool tickets It's probably a year actually and I think they double every time because that's what it is with the speed So I almost lost my license when I was a kid when I was 17 Uh from like speeding tickets, right? It's four to well, I don't know what it is now, but when I was four points It was four tickets in a in a year like if you if you got nailed for four tickets So I had three I got the fourth one And so I went to the court to fight the four because I thought well Even though I had no leg to really stand on it was like fucking I did get my license I gotta try and fight this because if I don't I'm gonna lose it for a year. It's gonna get suspended Or whatever and so I show up to court and luckily the cop didn't show up So they threw it out threw it out and so I was like, oh I had my license taken but uh were suspended. Yeah, I did it was suspended. So uh, that's when I was younger You had more than three tickets in a year. Well, dude, do you know how much I used to pay for car insurance? So I drove a gecko commercial. No, exactly. Are we sponsored by gecko? We should be. Hey gecko. I was uh, I drove a Volkswagen golf VR six, so it's like a little You know rice rocket or whatever even though it's german, you know those little type of cars It was considered a performance car under the insurance, but it's not anyway I couldn't get insurance for it They wouldn't give me insurance for it So through a kind of a weird loophole or whatever My dad was insured with my Volkswagen so I could drive it, but I had to have insurance So I got insurance for my dad's 1978 Chevy work van so we had this big work van nor under normal circumstances How much do you think panel without the uh windows? Oh, yeah Yes, exactly How much do you think it would be to ensure a car like that that is old and whatever It'd be like 50 bucks a month 20 bucks a month, right? Because it's not an expensive car It's not it's a big van, right? That's the only thing I could get insurance for Number one and it didn't cost me 50 bucks a month. Do you guys know how much I paid when I was Let's see 19 years old 19 and 20 21 years old for my dad's 1978 work van I paid over 1200 a month. What? Yeah That's how bad 19. No that and also my driving record was so bad. You actually paid that Well, I would have wouldn't be able to drive. I had to so I paid 1200 bucks a month on health I had special insurance for high-risk drivers Wow, mine was really bad and I was nowhere near that. Whoa Yeah, I think that I think I peaked out at like 400 something dollars I was crazy you like if you're a kid, you know teenager, you know, it's like all my money Just so I could drive I was over but you know, luckily I wasn't making a ton of money You know managing gyms and stuff at a young age But and part of it was because the first gym that I managed Was uh in selenus because they gave me the small club, right? So you're a fucking flying on the road Oh, bro, I used to put the the cruise control on 105 miles an hour all the way down 101 And then I got tickets in that double fine zone. Yeah, just don't go through king city. Yeah. Oh, fuck you Dude, I I can count I got three tickets Oh, I a hundred percent have at least at least seven or eight tickets in the my entire time of going because I used to go to Cal put my girlfriend went to Cal Poly that's like their number one source of revenue Yeah, they get you by the plane they get you The planes got me and they've came up behind me. They've whipped around going the opposite direction like king city It's a fucking business, dude It's because you used to go visit down to Cal Poly and I also same thing with me and like an asshole I drove in high school. I drove like a hundred something this whole Toyota Trussell piece of shit I drove wrestling into the game a red fucking rice rocket with fucking stickers all over the center You're a target. Yeah, dude. I was like yeah, like you had like 200 horsepower Yeah, you know what you want to hear what bullshit it is though What an you want to talk about an efficient bullshit system to get people to drive the speed limit It's all about collecting money and paying people salaries for this bullshit because the reality is If we really wanted people to not speed you would just have speed limiters on all the cars As soon as they get produced this car can't go faster than 75 miles an hour Problem solved part of it is people say that sucks But the reality is if they really want to slow everybody down so they don't speed That's what they would do, but they don't do it because then they'd have to eliminate jobs Yeah, come on man. Right. Right. They like it when you speed. Yeah, they can give you a ticket You know who's gonna be against automated self-driving cars big time a lot of highway patrol You're gonna have oh, oh, dude You're gonna have a lot of issues with police because no more duis So that's gonna reduce work. You're gonna have nobody met You know sitting on the side of freeway watching people speed great It's gonna you know people are gonna be against it. I'd be interested You know, I'm gonna I'll have to ask some of my buddies that are chp's and sheriffs and cops What they think about that because that's that'd be interesting to ask and I know we have a lot of their unions will be against it Well, I didn't say I don't know how much they would be against it though Because I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them don't like that part of the job It's probably like they have to do it right right right as soon as they see though As soon as they starts to see that they're that they're looking at oh, we're cutting this many positions Because we don't need anybody now to do this Then they'll be against it. Yeah, as soon as it threatens your job your livelihood your regular way of life That's when people don't like progress because now You know, I tell you what when cars were invented people who made wagons were pissed off 100% Because now they they have no business. They're not making wagons anymore You know you need to save my job. So like taxi drivers protesting uber There's cities, you know, there's cities that ban uber Because of these taxi unions and shit. Yeah, fuck out of here. Yeah, austin's like that. Yeah, that's right Dude, you know, it's weird too talking about like, you know, police and and law enforcement and all that like You know that those cities that actually have predictive crime algorithms now that have kind of taken over and like This is becoming a thing now where it's like they can actually how do you guys feel about that? I'm kind of pro I think that's kind of cool I think if I think if they're not infringing on anybody's liberties then do it I think when they start infringing on our liberties and they start enacting I think if you're using it like this like, okay, when we look at this efficiency over the last 10 years You know more crime happens in this area by 75% at this time of night, right this time of night So we're going to make sure that we patrol here. Yeah, let's just patrol. That just makes sense Right, but if it turns into like I'll give you an example random DUI checks, so they have a stop And I know I know the arguments that helps reduce, you know deaths all that stuff But when they're searching seizure without probable cause that's an infringement of liberty So if they say if the algorithm says You know males between this age this race or whatever therefore Let's go search these people randomly because that's what algorithm says now We are giving up an essential liberty. Yeah, and you don't want to go down that fucking path I don't care how effective it is because when you give up liberty for safety, you end up with neither That's just historically how it works. So I love the algorithms. I just don't don't infringe on my liberty I don't don't bullshit me and say Hey to keep everybody safe. We need to wiretap everybody We need to be able to have access to everybody's email everybody's phone We need to be able to go through your mail We need to be able to go in your house whenever we want to make sure you're not a bad guy And if you if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about that argument Is is what the so it's what the communists did. It's what nazis did. It's what uh, all tyranny This tyrannic regime this conversation reminds me of one of the questions that I picked today Before we get in there, I want to say real real nice thing about both of you guys I really In the car today because I was in traffic because I wasn't taking carpool what I was going to say is I really appreciate One of the things I appreciate about both of you guys more than anything Is your willingness to step out of your comfort zone and to challenge yourselves I was thinking about you adam doing, you know, right now going through your low testosterone You know saga and having to deal with all that and I know what a challenge that is For any man, but especially to somebody who used to identify so much with being muscular and strong and all that stuff Uh, and how much how much alcohol it accolades that those things brought you I really appreciate both of you guys doing that kind of stuff and stepping out of your comfort zone It challenges me it makes me a better person and it humbles the fuck out of me And uh, you know, it's rare you find individuals that do that with such grace and without sitting there Tuting their own horn or you know identifying with it just doing it. It's fucking awesome. So I want to say I definitely think that's something that that that bonds all of us Yeah, I think that was you you talk about we were all very different I think part of why people enjoy the show is because we couldn't be more different in a lot of other areas But probably the thing that that bonds us the most would be that those traits I think I think it's one of the traits that I think everybody is attracted to the other guys about And it sounds weird to say that but it's true, you know, that's I think that is uh, there's not a lot of people that do that You know and a lot of people make excuses or like you said a lot of people want to if they do do those things They want to toot their horn or look at me or I feel sorry for you know I'm saying it's just like no everybody kind of handles their shit You know I'm saying everybody handles shit and is always stretching themselves So, you know, I 100% agree with that and I appreciate it. We only get better if we are we all have that shared common interest Part of it is Selfish part of the reason why I appreciate it and I get to see you guys do this and then it makes me Do it more myself. So I benefit from what you guys are going through As well because you do it with such grace and In such in humble ways. So I appreciate it. Thank you, dude. No problem. Doug bring on the sensitive bird, please Give me a hug bird Qua Today's qua is being brought to you by chimera coffee It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural Neutropics for a cleaner calmer and more focused buzz without the crash Put the chimera link at mind pump media.com and input the discount code Mind pump a checkout for 10% off. It's the motherfucking quaw. The eagle has landed Qua All right. Our first question is from ander beth. I'm constantly being told that lifting weights won't make women bulky But I can just look at a weight and put on muscle Am I an exception to the rule? Is it genetic? I love this question You lucky girl You I love this question because I have heard this statement At least a thousand times at least a thousand times in my career. Yeah, at least that And you know, it's funny about this still, you know, is there, you know, it's funny about this So, yes, I have also all of us, right? We've heard this so many times from women The reality is it's such a small percentage of people I can count on one hand the amount of women that I've met that do build muscle like this and But it's they're on testosterone, but it's countless how many women say that they can do this. So right, right Not discrediting what you're saying you could very well Very well, you could be the exception to the rule You could very well be a genetic Anomaly the reason why we're saying this though is because 99 99% of the time when women say this it's because they lift weights and they gain body fat And they say oh weights make me bulky and it's like no watch your nutrition And then see what happens right because you could gain as a woman you could gain A solid eight pounds of muscle which by the way if you were gaining if you're a man If you're a man and you gain eight solid pounds of muscle you are kicking ass you're you're crushing Let's let's put that in perspective. I can't remember where I read this article But they talked about the average professional bodybuilder that's on anabolic steroids and is a genetic freak Is extremely happy with adding 10 pounds of muscle a year a year a year on anabolic steroids genetic freak Training like a fucking maniac If they can add 10 pounds of lean mass every single year That's a huge feat so put that in perspective like you're probably not the genetic freak You're probably not running a bunch of steroids But more of that it's it's your own perception of yourself right and and a lot of that is distorted because We see our like our pant size right or our legs all sudden We're wearing these our favorite yoga pants or something and they feel tighter And they feel tighter than they ever feel and all of a sudden you go off But let me tell you on there's so many factors that can manipulate that You could easily have taken in Some extra sodium the day before and drank an extra glass or two of water And now all of a sudden your body's holding on to so so much water You could have ate 50 more grams of carbohydrates that day and now your body's pairing and holding on to more water And now you're so there's a lot of things that you could be doing That makes it feel like you're getting fatter, but you're really not getting fatter or getting bulkier What's happening is you're you know holding on to a little bit of weight, which could be water weight or If you're lucky you're building some muscle and if you're building some muscle You're only speeding your metabolism out, which is only going to help you lean out But it definitely if you're eating in a caloric deficit and you're lifting Heavy weight and lifting to to be bulky. You're going to build an incredible physique And I'll uh, I want to address the genetic freaks in a second, but first before I do that I'm going to give you an example. That's kind of the reverse I was so afraid When I was working out for years, especially when I in early days I was so afraid of losing weight I was so afraid of being skinny That if I lost a half a pound or if I felt any semblance of being smaller I freaked out to the point where I never got shredded for decade for decades I mean lifting weights from 14 till now The first time I really really really got shredded. I think I was like 28 oh, dude That was the first time I've shared that I went 30 years with never trying to lose body fat 30 years of my life I lifted to build muscle and get bigger because I always thought I was so afraid. Yeah, so afraid. So at one point I got I faced that fear. I let myself get lean. I felt smaller on my sweaters I felt smaller in my shirts. Oh my god I'm getting skinny and then next thing I know I see definition of my muscles next thing, you know I'm getting ripped next thing, you know people are telling me I look bigger And it helped me get over my fear now women many women are on the other side of that Yeah, it's exact opposite. Yes. They're so afraid of gaining any kind of weight or size That for them it's oh shit I'm getting bulky and part of the problem is look women's clothes are designed for women without muscle If you have any kind of shape to your body any kind of glutes any kind of hamstrings or quads any kind of delts You put on your regular women's sizes You're gonna they don't fit you all of a sudden like oh fuck my clothes don't fit I'm getting too big That is such a rare thing to see in women. I like I said I can count on one hand All the years I've worked in fitness and I worked in fitness in other words. I worked with female trainers I worked with female competitors. I worked with people who are all More genetically gifted than the average and on one hand I can count the amount of women I've met where I'm like wow you really do build Muscle like a man now if you are That genetic freak and you do gain eight pounds of muscle, which is a lot if you gained eight lean pounds of muscle Without a single ounce of body fat. You'd be barely bigger Barely bigger because muscle is so dense. It's a very dense tissue. It's not like fat Like if you gain eight pounds of body fat, it's if you could see it creates a lot of space eight pounds of muscle You'll be a tiny bit bigger. You're gonna feel harder I guarantee that the the bulky feeling has to do with calories carbs and sodium and water like those I guarantee those are the things that are making you feel that way Which I'll you know, I tell you what I couldn't break out of this so I can totally relate I totally understand because just like sal This is exact same thing except from the other side for us, right? And it wasn't until I actually decided to say, okay, I'm gonna get As shredded as I possibly can who cares if I lose a bunch of muscle. That's not the goal That was a very hard transition for me to make and it was a mental struggle And if it wasn't for the fact that I was gonna get on stage and compete I don't know if I would have ever done it So I can totally relate and understand the challenge that it is mentally Because you see yourself a certain way you get on the scale You see these little things go up and down, but it's amazing how much we can fluctuate day to day based off those things I'm talking about with calories carbs sodium water all that stuff will fluctuate your body day to day And it's not a true sign of muscle and fat just because your clothes are fitting a certain way And the only way you'll break this is you'll you'll have to just Give in and say, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna train this way. I'm gonna trust the process I'm gonna lift like I'm trying to be bulky. I'm gonna lift like I'm trying to build muscle for a while But I'm gonna eat like I'm trying to stay lean and be consistent with that long enough and watch what happens Watch what happens, but you can't do that for one week or two weeks. And then that's it Like this that's not so so I so this experience Similar to like my girlfriend. So my girlfriend she's I wouldn't say she's uh One of the people that I one of the women I've seen that builds muscle like a man But she's definitely up there. She definitely builds muscle Way better than most women I've ever met. She's got this ability just to put on muscle And she's built like she she can put on muscle really well But she was also afraid of being bulky and big and so You know, I've been with her now for a couple years and she's dealt with some metabolic damage And we've brought her calories up and her metabolism is faster, but she never really allowed herself to go above I'd say 1800 calories now that sounds like a decent amount But for a woman that lifts weights and works out almost every single day Who's got a decent amount of muscle? It's really not that many calories way more than what it was She used to gain weight on anything over 1100 calories But now she's consuming 1800. She was relatively lean working out whatever and so recently I've I've like convinced her like just fucking go in a bulk like let's bump your calories up and see what happens So she's been doing this for a little while and and not weighing herself She hasn't gone on the scale at all and the funny and so in her mind She's like she would say things like god my arms look like really good And I'm like well, you're you're built probably you're building a little bit of muscle I'd be telling her like you're putting on more muscle like this is really cool She's like, oh, you know, I know I've gained a lot of weight, but that's okay And she's kind of talking herself out of it. I've gained a lot of weight, but that's okay I've gained a lot of weight, but that's okay. So the other day I told her Tomorrow I said when you go to work because she trains at this gym. I said step on the scale Let me know how much you weigh She's like, okay, so she goes over there. She weighs herself She she weighs I think a pound heavier maybe two pounds heavier Mostly the result of the fact that she weighed herself later in the day and had clothes on So I said, well, there you go with problem. You know what happened? She lost a little body fat a little bit of body fat and gained some muscle But in her mind, she's like i'm consuming 2200 calories a day I'm getting bigger and I got to be okay with that and that hadn't happened and she's tripping out right now Katrina and I dated for three years before We we made this switch for her because I've I learned a long time ago that like, you know, who am I to impose You know me and what I think you should be doing training wise like and she was a Run three to five times a week for an hour at a time in tents hills and shit like that Every one of her training sessions She was fully geared up in hoodies and sweats and doing Plios for an entire hour and then the stair master for 30 minutes She and she treated her workouts the same way that she approached Her playing basketball. She was an athlete all the way through college Like so everything was balls to the wall and Was sometimes that she was in great shape because She was balls the wall and her diet was out then and then sometimes she wasn't so great because she was eating off All off the rails, but she but she was still always training So when she would when we first started dating like this is just kind of this cycle She went and she was always in good shape like Katrina's never been Like I never saw her fat like she never got above 14 15 body fat for a female which is really low But she just assumed that her shape of her body the way it looks would never change I said, well, you've never really changed. You've never really trained to sculpt your body And she's like, well, what do you mean? I don't I guess I do I do weights I go, no, you don't you do like cardio with weights Like that's all you're doing is like you're building endurance right now in stamina You're not building muscle like we're not sculpting your body and shaping you like you got it If you build some muscle you could change the way you look and she's like No, and she wouldn't she just was not having it and one day she finally came to me and she goes, okay What would you do? And the irony is now the woman does not run Okay, she doesn't do any cardio whatsoever. She doesn't eat cardio to walking on the treadmill Okay, or walking on a hot way to do hikes all the time. She eats 2400 to 2600 calories a fucking day And she's not a big woman and she's not a pessimist Isn't this a gross generalization? But like have you guys found like in your career that most of the time Women have the hardest time resting and going through like a strength phase, of course Yeah, because it's been tattooed it's been tattooed in everybody's head the hardest time to get it You gotta burn you gotta burn you gotta burn if you want to burn fat you gotta burn you gotta burn You gotta move you gotta move you gotta move And that and that is exactly the her mentality now It's great It's I love having her talk to women like this because She can relate so much and tell them like listen I thought the same thing too and now all she does is squat deadlift and good mornings overhead It changes everything. Yeah, I mean once once Courtney is the same thing with you guys And it's easier once they buy into it and and they see what it does to their body It's like wow it finally starts to resonate But it takes a long time to get that you know to to penetrate it's the exact Opposite but same thing that I went through I was so afraid of on the toll I was so afraid of missing a meal Or so afraid of not stuffing my I got to the point where if I didn't feel stuffed Like if I didn't feel like fuck I just ate a whole bunch of food You're gonna lose Yeah, I'm like, oh, I gotta eat real quick Like I had to feel like I'm stuffing myself all the time Well, that's how I'm feeling comfortable How many times did you make this decision? And this is exactly again the exact opposite the the women that are in her shoes. This is what they do You and it is the opposite of what we do I would At like I would weigh myself in the morning afternoon not like because I was wanting to gain so bad, right And if it was afternoon time and I knew at that time like where my weight needed to be So the next morning I woke up as heavy or heavier And so a lot of times, you know, I get busy with work I'd be working for like six hours straight. I fucking missed two meals in there. I get on the scale. Holy shit I'm I'm a pound and a pound and a half down behind And so I'm driving home and my decision of what I would eat. Oh god I would jack in the box. Yes. I would go to mcdonald's and I would get two big macs and 20 piece mcnugget and a mcflurry because You know what? I was so afraid that I would lose muscle I just got a diarrhea right now. Isn't that crazy, bro? So, you know, listen the same person Listen, no, listen. This is the same thing that she goes through but the opposite, right? So these women they get on the scale and they look and they go Oh, shit, like I'm I'm already put a pound on and all I had was a couple glasses of water and hardly anything So what do they do they get on a treadmill and run or they don't eat? They skip a meal or they just have a salad instead. It's like they don't feed their body what it needs The mind games you play with yourself are so Hilarious first off for the same person you tell these stories like it's just like I'm it's exactly what I did I used to I would weigh myself with my clothes on before I went before I took a shit. Why because I'd be heavier on the scale There's you know, women will not weigh themselves unless it's in the morning. No food naked fast Yeah, even though they know That if they gained a couple pounds because they have clothes on and they ate a meal It fucks with them so much that I'm not even gonna step on the scale I already I already ate a meal and I got my clothes on I would do the same but the opposite like oh no no no the end of the day Yeah, I got to eat first before I weigh myself because I want to make sure that scale says right, right So silly it is crazy. It is but it's a mind fucking a half Um, I I would be willing to bet everything that I have That you're probably I just looked at her profile is private But even just looking that I can tell she's I mean she'd have if you were one of these genetic freaks You'd have a fucking neck, you know, you'd have a neck and traps and you look crazy. You're not that chick at all Right, it's like a linebacker. Yeah, and and honestly if you're like Sal's girl or Katrina too can put on muscle pretty well But there's still not like serena williams Yeah, there's a woman right that I could see that builds muscle like crazy, right, right, but she's rare Right that is super and you can see those girls you can see those girls. I mean they're they don't have to lift weights Yeah, it's very obvious when when there's a girl that has this that's just a just like with guys I feel like the guys I mean men and women are the same here as far as the the spectrum of Genetic freaks versus average joes, you know Most of us are all average joes and then every once in a while you see the guy who doesn't follow a nutrition plan Has terrible programming. They stand out. Yeah, but he's got fucking perfectly round deluxe and chat It's it's Think of it this way if you are one of those women that Literally has the genetics to build ridiculous amounts of muscle work. It's just too much. Okay. Go do it. Well, hold on If you are one of those women, it's as rare. Okay, I'll make this and I'll stand by this It's as rare seeing somebody who's seven feet tall now Walk around outside. Tell me actually think to yourself how many times besides going to nba game Have you ever seen someone that's seven feet tall? It's extreme. It's so rare that if you saw one today, you'd remember it In fact, you probably remember that one time you saw someone that was seven feet tall That's how rare it is most you probably are not this most people Are average joes, but they identify with the extremes because that's the where the insecurities lie Right, like if you were to ask me as a kid growing up the entire all the way till I was 30 years old I would tell you that oh, I am for sure a hard gainer the hardest of hard. Yeah, hardest of hard Instagram normalized because I right and the same thing goes on the other end If you're somebody who feels like you touch weights Well, no, that's probably a lot of other factors that are that are coming into play and the biggest factor is your own mind And fucking with yourself. So, you know, all I all I would give as far as advice with a client like this is Trust the process, you know, throw the scale away for a little while Train like you're trying to build train like you're trying to be bulky. I dare you to but eat like you're not Don't eat like you're trying to bulk But also don't starve yourself feed the body It needs it needs nutrients to build muscle because if you're if you're starving yourself calorie-wise and you're lifting real heavy, too You're still going to slow that metabolism down again. It'll get adapted to the fat Right feed it eat but eat good whole nutrient nutrient dense foods And lift heavy and see what the fuck what happens. Yeah, trust the process All right. The next question is from fit nina 22 What are your thoughts on carb cycling for fat loss in comparison to intermittent fasting and maintaining consistent daily intake? Is one better than the other in terms of reaching both optimal fat loss and metabolism We have to address that the intermittent fasting in there is This is what I don't like about it. I f right. This is what I don't like is because it's been Sensationalized so much Now it's a diet. Yeah, and it's become a diet now Now and when it becomes a diet and that and you're doing it for the intentions of losing body fat Now it's now it's more closer to an eating disorder than actually a healthy thing that you should be doing And I know that's kind of hard to To just to swallow that when you if you're listening right now and you love intermittent fasting But really intermittent fasting when it comes to that level where you're using it's less of a lifestyle thing It's called intermittent for a reason You're supposed to intermittently inject it every now and then not it's not supposed to be something that you live by all the time Our body needs all these nutrients, especially if you're lifting weights and you're exercising So right out the gates if you if you look at it like that because carb cycling and intermittent fasting are totally different Yeah, before I before I address comparing them Um, I'll say this my thoughts on carb cycling are it's great. Uh, I think all Cycling is great. I think you should cycle all your macros. I think you should cycle your calories I think you should cycle the times of day you eat. I think you should cycle cycle protein fasting Yes, because think about it. You know, it's funny. So I'm glad you said that Justin about about protein because nobody ever wants to touch that one, right? If we so far up until now What we're finding for for health for optimal health and to some extent optimal performance What we're finding is if we feed our bodies in ways that our bodies evolved eating That we will have a good balance between performance and health now for sure 100 percent No way in hell for most of human civilization. Somebody didn't eat the same grams of protein every day I guarantee you I guarantee you somebody who's 200 pounds isn't like, you know For most of human civilization. I eat 180 grams of protein every single day. That's what I do every day That's so unnatural. It's ridiculous. There's no way we did that killed the same animal like over and over and over Yeah, no, there's no way we did that macros everything was cycled everything followed the seasons Uh, some if in here's it for most of human civilization We ate what we could so what was around us what grew and what we killed that means we cycled fats That means we cycled carbs. That means we cycled proteins That means sometimes our calories were high when we had food And there were long periods of time when we had no food. So we had very low calories This is why fasting prolonged fasting occasional prolonged fasting Has been demonstrated for unhealthy individuals to have Profound health benefits when I say profound. I mean It's probably one of the single most effective anti cancer things you could do For yourself to the point where the leading researchers on fasting Like dr. Volter Longo Consider the fasted state and an alternative operating system In other words when you fast you turn on a different operating system where cell autophagy Dramatically ramps up. That's the automatic program cell death of cells that are older Or mutated or whatever. So it's like this cleaning out process You activate stem cells and then when you refeed those stem cells turn into new healthier cells We've now we've observed and this is old science that when you go on a prolonged fast like three days four days five days long That the organs will shrink the liver will shrink in some cases the liver can shrink to half its size Then you when you refeed yourself it comes back. By the way, it doesn't reduce its function So you don't you don't have reduced liver function. It literally is like old cells die Boom replaced with new cells. It's one of the best things you could do occasionally Now the daily fasting that people are doing where they do every single day, they become dogmatic about it There there are some health benefits But I will also say that doing it all the time every day the returns the returns have to diminish Not just the adaptation machine with everything It makes total sense to me that the people that and I know this is going to roll Ruffle some feathers because I know some people love intermittent fasting so much they do it every single day But i'm sorry if you're doing it every single day Your body's probably pretty adapted to that and the major benefits that you were getting when you first started doing that Have diminished that doesn't mean you're not getting benefits. I'm not saying that and I'm not saying you can't do that All I'm saying is the real things the real stuff that we're benefiting from is by Intermittently injecting it and then stretching it out to these long periods and not only that but In the right context of let's say hpa axis dysfunction High cortisol levels cortisol resistance Consistent fasting makes all that worse. It's not going to benefit you in that situation. It actually makes it worse It makes it worse an added stress. It's it becomes an added stress on the body It becomes a you know increases your cortisol release and does all these other things So so that's on fasting now if we're comparing carb cycling with intermittent fasting To for health and all that stuff. They're both important I recommend utilizing both of them the reason why I like fasting for some of the benefits I talked about I also like fasting for some people for the mental benefits of breaking the chains Of food now for some people that actually can create a worse relationship with food So if you're somebody that avoids food because you're scared of being fat and you tend to go on that anorexic route Fasting is not what you need to do. But if you're one of these eat every two hours Can we just say right now that carb cycling intermittent fasting ketogenic diet vegetarian diet paleo diet? Zone diet fucking Mediterranean every fucking diet everything out there. I think everybody should experience it I think you should all the diet some of them are crazy. Well, no all the ones I named right now, right? Yeah, you don't need to do the cookie diet But you know what maybe maybe try that for a little bit and see how you fucking feel and connect the dots That's the point is that whatever you do It's not don't do not attach yourself to a single way of eating as better than something else Learn to go through these diets learn to go through these these structured ways of eating And learn to connect the dots to what it does for your body and how it makes you feel absolutely I think it's Along those lines you have to find what's homeostasis for you So whatever you have responded to the best Remember that you know remember that and and come back to it after you like You know go through another process and you're challenging yourself just like optimizing the body And we talk about this you know somewhat where you know I want to find What's working best, but now I want to stretch my my abilities and my capacity a little bit more right? Well, you know And I always go back to the example of when we went through the whole ketogenic process But that's exactly what it is we did that Through and it's not that the ketogenic diet was is so great or it's so bad because that's what you right now What do we see right now like our boy laying the other day posted talking shit about the high fats and everybody Again, everybody wants to be in a camp either your pro keto or you're not No, it's not that it's how about you go through it and pay attention to how your body feels and oh shit Maybe you were probably grossly under eating fat for a long time and now you feel fucking great It doesn't mean that the ketogenic diet is the diet for you It means that your body was lacking fucking fat and now you gave it or You were oversaturating it with too much fucking carbohydrate process foods and carbohydrates and now that you reduce it It's not the fucking diet. It's the macro profile that you changed currently and let it help or use those tools to help connect You know, use what are they getting closer to what your body needs? What's the quote let food be that medicine? Right. So like I I know when to change My macro uh profile know when to change my food intake based on at this point now based on how I feel My inflammation performance All these different things carb cycling the reason why people like carb cycling so much I like carbs increases Sensitivity to carbohydrates so your body responds better to them It gives you periods of maybe more fat intake when your carbohydrates lower People do notice increased fat loss with it. Uh, probably for the reasons that I just highlighted leptin and ghrelin benefits like that So all those things if you're too consistent all the time not a good idea with nutrition I think you should cycle in and out of all those different things identify what they do for you Know that your body will change and circumstances will change and along with those your diet should change Next question is from jazasaur thoughts now that the FCC has voted to kill net neutrality. Oh, yeah Here's the question I wanted to get to you wanted to get you want to go here I did want to go here because one there's a lot of confusion around this And um, I've read and watched a lot of fucking videos and shit on both sides of this So and I and I can I could argue it either way, but I know what I'm pro I mean any any time fucking government regulation gets involved in anything I I can't I can't think of something on the top of my head that it's been good No, and here's the so this is by the way for and this is a lot of a lot of people don't realize explain this first before we go And talk so the FCC regulates, uh, like phone lines and stuff like that And so the regulation of net neutrality was under that kind of under that guy So they're using these these outdated regulations and trying to figure out a way to apply them to the internet um the principle of Net neutrality is that all internet service providers Must treat all data on the internet the same and not discriminate or charge differently By user content website platform application Like they're not allowed to which that kills free market right there Okay, does not allow a company one other company to go in and say i'm gonna do this better We're gonna spend more money. We're gonna build more towers. We're gonna make it more efficient We're gonna give away more so fuck you. I want to charge. No, no, no So this is it's here's the thing people are like no this ensures fairness We need rules to make everything fair. That's never let me tell you something. Let me let me explain something to you This is not the first time this has happened. This has happened in all growing powerful industries that we've seen Since the industrial revolution We will have an industry come out explode growth quickly and then they will come out and usually It's promoted by the new industry leaders So if you have like taxicab companies taxicab companies Lobby to pass laws that say in order to become a taxicab driver You have to pay For this what they call a medallion in some places To be able to drive a taxi now the way they sell it is we want to ensure that everything is Safe that we're regulated. We want to make sure only the right people are driving taxis And uber is a perfect example why it works better to do it that way in reality What they're doing is they're just protecting themselves. So the the biggest supporters of Net neutrality are the big players in the market Netflix and google and these big companies of course they want net neutrality. It protects them from Potential innovation and competition. This is all industries work this way It's the alliance of government and big business now. Some people will argue and say Well, we need this because there's only in some places. There's only like one or two ISP providers. We already have a monopoly that is not because of the free market. I'm sorry. It's not It isn't because business decided we can only have one isp. It's your local government It's your local government allowing so many phone lines allowing so many companies to provide this data And that's why there's no competition. It's not the market now Net neutrality says we need to keep everything fair and make everything be treated the same Let's apply that philosophy to other things in the market. Let's imagine we said um, I don't know all All shipping needs to count the same cost the same We want to make sure all companies ship things to you and they have to be charged the same exact amount Would we have amazon prime? Would we have ups or fedex that came out and Forced our mail system to compete. Do you know how long it took by the way? You know overnight should all look like the post office bro overnight shipping Our post office said was impossible for decades. They said it'll never happen Then ups comes out fedex come out revolutionize the industry Create ways of shipping things to your house Overnight and you got to pay for it. You got to pay more for it Of course you do if you don't have to pay for it Who's going to invest the time and money right to innovate if there's not more money, right? Okay, that's where innovation comes from it comes from they see them. They see a market need They see people will pay for it. They come in and innovate now all of a sudden the post office can can deliver overnight amazon prime is an example of that any time you have government step in and say This is this is fair. We need to create fairness. You know what I tell you what? milk and eggs staple in nutrition staple for for for people Those are staple foods. We need to make sure everybody gets milk and eggs. We need to create fairness By the way, I'm going to sell this like a politician. Okay, you ready? We need to make sure milk and eggs Everybody get milk and eggs. They are nutritious People need them. They're staples in our diet I want to make sure that everybody has access to milk and eggs Therefore no gallon of milk can be sold for more than 75 cents And no dozen eggs can be sold more than more than 75 cents. We want to ensure fairness bottom line Sounds nice. Sounds great. Right if you're the average person, you're listening to that going wow They're going to pass a law and miraculously make milk and eggs cheaper and everything's going to stay the same We're going to have all this access. There's always a cause and effect What is the effect of that now what we have done now as I've sent a Artificial signal to the market saying that there is no more value in producing more milk There is no more value in producing more eggs or better quality eggs We're going to achieve shortages as a result less producers are going to go into the market to create these Products because there's no money involved and now milk only cost 75 cents if you could fucking find it Good luck or wait in line for three hours to try and get it. This is how This is the mentality around socialism. This is the mentality around a lot of these things So the when the FCC comes out and says we're going to make it even playing field what they're doing is they're killing innovation Now the fear is that netflix or companies like netflix like google whatever are going to say to you Hey, if you want our super pre premiere service, you got to pay more or we're going to charge you now $500 a month because now we're getting charged more because we're sending so much data because now the isp providers Can charge us more us more? Fucking do it. I dare you netflix. Yeah, we'll see how the market responds. What do you think's going to happen? Now let's say they do do that in f for a second Let's say for a second it does cost more for these things that opens up the market for competition Yeah, right for somebody else to come in and make it better And don't think for a second that the only way you get your internet is through the isp providers because I guarantee you At some point it's already starting to happen We have innovators figuring out different ways to deliver data to you facebook Facebook is investing money in fucking blimps that fly over areas that don't have access to give people free internet Why why would facebook? I'm still waiting on google wire. Why would facebook want to give people free internet? Why would they pay to deliver free internet? Think about that because it benefits them right it benefits them to provide These services so and the reason why the internet of all the things we can think of in modern times Nothing has grown faster or innovated faster or has produced more wealth in a short period of time like the internet It's been Incredible nothing compares if we looked at internet web pages just 10 years ago compared to now They're almost unrecognizable. Look at the products that we use in tech. Look at the price of tech Do you know in 1978? I think when the Walkman first came out in 1978 dollars? I'm not even adjusting it for inflation was over 300 dollars to buy a Walkman back then It was over 300 dollars if we adjusted for inflammation something like uh for inflation something like 500 something dollars right, you know and today you could get a Walkman. I guarantee you could get a cassette player for a dollar. Yeah Yeah for free. Yeah, they'll give it away. That's because technology and the internet have largely been Unregulated because it's well that's go back to your analogy imagine if they did that in that industry right there And they put they made it fair like you had to keep it at a certain we'd be we'd still be listening to Walkman's right Yeah, imagine if I don't know imagine if 50 years ago Like we're winding it with a pencil here imagine if 50 years ago The government came out and said hey clothes and shoes essential everybody needs clothes and shoes So we are going to regulate the fuck out of it and make we are going to give everybody We're going to provide shoes and clothes for everybody You're not going to buy them from these greedy capitalists who are trying to make money off you The government's going to provide you with clothes and shoes. Do you know what your clothes and shoes would look like? Do you know how shitty they would be has and does anybody familiar with the car the soviet union made? I forgot the name of it by the way There was an actual car made by the soviet union Biggest piece of shit of all time and you had to wait something like five or ten years To apply just to get it meanwhile in america We had a more free market not totally free but more free market with automobiles And we innovate and created these safe economic amazing vehicles in the same period of time It took the soviet union to create this piece of shit that they deliver After you apply for for ten in ten years Ridiculous with the trombone. There it is. Yeah, I was gonna say it wasn't that you go because that's you So, uh, no, you don't want you don't want and listen. Here's the other thing the government has been trying now for Ten years at least to figure out a way To get their hands on the internet because it scares the fuck out of them You didn't even talk about what I think the scariest part about this is they can also censor the information That's being provided on these things. So, you know, if all of a sudden, you know, uh, netflix becomes a huge supporter of donald trump Then they only provide stuff that supports him and then there's anti hillary or someone else Or you can flip that on its head if netflix all of a sudden gets into bed with hillary Then they can actually filter the information that you can get get through their services So there's a complete a complete bias that way too. You don't want that Well, look at what's already happening with youtube and how like they're trying to filter All of like the swearing and they're they're trying to filter like all the different messages people are putting out So it's like, you know, like who's the same now somebody could come in and we could do it on a different platform Versus now we're stuck like like they just killed business for a lot of people So so telecommunications your phones Were when phones were first created and invented the you know, it was kind of unregulated and then the government stepped in to protect Right. We're going to protect the people my fucking ass. How many places do you live where you have to provide earmuffs? Look at you know, how long it you know, how long it was were the only phone provider You had in an area was 18 t like if you didn't go to 18 t you had no phone There was no other I couldn't shop a bunch of different. That's because of regulations. We were limited to like one service provider in a different different areas 2014 it was I think it was obama Who urged the FCC to reclassify broadband internet as telecommunications? That's smart. What they were trying to do is trying to classify internet as telephone Because now they have all the controls already in place They're trying and that was just part of the whole plan of getting their hands In the internet and for in every single case when the government gets their hands on something They sell it with good intentions It's it's it's for the uninformed or for the average person It sounds like a good thing and those regulations only grow only grow They get their hands on it more and more and nothing scares the government more than the internet The internet is anarchy. It literally is anarchy. You can go on the internet You can search almost anything you can read almost anything people can share things. It could be shared. I love instantly It is anarchy and they've been trying there's there's been several bills that have gone through congress where they've tried to For our safety right and they always name it something like the patriot act for example It doesn't have anything to do with fucking patriots. Uh, you know, the the net neutrality has nothing to do with net neutrality It's all about right, you know, uh getting their hands. They try position like it's what we're trying to help you out against Is you're not a patriot and by the way the net neutrality laws passed two years ago So how was the internet before two years ago? It was fine. It's going to continue to be fine Companies are definitely going to try doing different things. I guarantee you're going to get this piecemeal Companies who say okay fine if you pay only this much we'll give you just these websites or just this Let them try it. They'll probably fail because people want everything Or maybe they won't maybe some people will like paying less for that type of stuff Maybe there'll be services with way better You know stuff or whatever let the competition continue and watch what happens. No, I sorry, uh, fcc did the right thing I think next question is from protein power ranger Do you think that when we were children we knew how to eat intuitively? But life and dietary pressures from others messes us up. That's interesting question Um, I don't you know fuck, you know why that's interesting is because animals have an animal instinct, right? so if you took Like a dog and you had and they actually do this right there's some people that actually go to this extent I know there's companies that do this where you can plant trees and different plants and stuff that are inside your backyard That if the dog's having stomach problems or the dog's lacking super certain nutrients It'll naturally go to the things that it needs When their stomachs upset they eat grass and make themselves throw up right and it's not you don't train your dog to do that It just knows to do that. So there I could see the argument of But the problem with this is that Babies are the and you just talked about this the other day Sal was like babies come out We're the only like species that requires the assistance from one of the only one right right that require like without Fetus we would die with if we if we just if someone just like had a baby then left us out in the middle of the desert We would die like this. Yeah, we wouldn't be able to do shit where if you do that with an animal There's a 50 50 chance that animal would survive right that that whatever baby animal it is It's interesting because it if you put shitty food out there. That's like It'll it'll hook them in like so it's some kind of like sugary cereal or cake or whatever like To a kid they're gonna consume the fuck out of it And and then they're gonna want that more and more and more and more Where you know, I'm sure at some point it'll be you know, they'll feel the ramifications of that and their body will get sick and You know, maybe that'll lead to better decisions but Yeah, that's an interesting thought because I don't I I think that it's I think instinct isn't they haven't learned The actual like, you know, the process of what feels good if you know, it's the exposure and in itself Definitely think that we can we can train that palette. We could train that in our kids early on like I think it's crazy Like okay, so right off the gates. I think probably I don't know what the percentage of people that use like gerber foods You're already like now we're already giving them something process and unnatural where if you I know some people take the extra step to Grinding up people don't want to hear that Right. No, no nobody wants to hear that because it's easy It's convenient for all of us But you're already starting to fuck them up on in the wrong direction as far as changing their palette for Processed foods and stuff like that and the ideal way would be to probably grind up some real fruits and vegetables And I know some I know some parents that have done that, right? Yeah, the kid doesn't know any different at that age You know I'm saying but they do once you give them that fucking ice cream Are you give them that candy and you see the response and their face right away their eyes light up and they get off This is trigger. Yeah, that's crazy. So I think so I think we underestimate our our natural instincts I think we're all born with a Strong level of intuitive eating. I think when you take an infant and you place them on The mother's bosom it seeks out the nipple and it drinks the milk. Nobody teaches it to do that. It's instinctual I think babies are instinctually attracted to sweet because sweet means Not poison usually means safe Babies and children are automatically repelled by bitter because in nature bitter means potentially poison or whatever I think uh, and this this is you know, most anthropologists will say this That uh, although we didn't have baby food What we probably did is we probably chewed up the food and spit it back in our baby's mouth One of the reasons why a lot of times you'll get that urge to Like bite down and grab and grit your teeth when you see a cute baby like you want to bite that Oh, I don't know bite that baby Some anthropologists think that's instinctual because it's we used to chew our food And then give it to the baby. So with this instinctual need to want to grit and squeeze our teeth. Yeah Um now the problem is that the environment is not the same The the same environment that we evolved in to trust our intuition So a baby or a child who grew up in a natural environment Will put things in their mouth, of course That's what kids do part of it's building up the gut floor and all that stuff But they'll probably want to eat and chew and swallow the sweet thing that they found because again It means safe and whatever and it was probably a piece of fruit or some piece of vegetable That was safe to eat or whatever or breast milk In the current environment That means most processed foods that didn't exist before so that intuition is still there It's just and it completely doesn't serve you as well. It's in a different environment. Yeah, you know, it's just in a different environment It's mixed signals because it's artificial like we've manufactured. Well, I don't know if it's different food items or it's it's heightened Right is what it is. It's just like we talked about this the other day like, you know, I have a heart I like Diet Coke and I know why my body's addicted to it. It's because of how sweet the artificial sweetener is I don't even like regular sugar regular sugar is not strong enough Right, it doesn't give me that same sweet taste because I've acquired that right now somebody else is going Oh god, I hate that taste. Well, that's because you haven't you you haven't become addicted to it Well, we do the same thing with the kids like that sweet like sal saying is right It's safe. It's same similar signals like the milk signal only it's Amplified by a thousand times and you're already starting to get them adapted to that that signal So now yeah, of course it's and the palette the palette actually they're showing lots of Lots of evidence now that shows that The infant's palette starts developing in the womb right from the mom which makes sense It makes sense because it makes sense that a child or that a baby would be born Enjoying the food that their mother ate because it's likely that that's what they'll be eating When they're born, it's likely that that's what they're going to be exposed to so it starts in the womb What you eat your child will probably enjoy in crave or was more likely to enjoy in crave Then what you feed the baby the palette starts to develop So we've talked about this before how like Asian families, you know Chinese children who grew up in china They're not repelled or repulsed by the smell of fish like fish doesn't Repel them when you go to a market and it's a fishy smell They grew up around it their palette developed around it doesn't repel them now You take the average american who doesn't eat a lot of fish you put them in a fish market like oh It smells like fish. I don't like that it kind of repels them and vice versa There's foods that the chinese child might find repulsive in america. Um, I can't I mean If you show a can if you open a can of chef boyardy And you show it to Italian Italian kids who eat like traditional food. Yeah, they'll they'll want to throw up It's so bad because they're not used to right pasta being that way or whatever Whereas, you know american kids might think the irony in all this when you get when you get into like the whole mom It wouldn't think which I think is a sensitive sensitive subject because it's all they feel like they're being judged Well, yeah, we it's which I think is funny to me because If we saw a pregnant a nine month pregnant pregnant woman shooting heroin doing cocaine or drinking alcohol We would freak out right judgment right a lot of judgment freak out. Oh my god. She's a horrible mother But no but no one would say anything to the mother who's slamming a big mac from mcdonald's every single night And pounding all opening these wrappers and eating candy and shoveling her face full of all these processed foods But they're all it's all getting in the bloodstream. It's all getting in the bloodstream And it's all getting over to the baby somehow passed on right and it's getting and it's getting passed on And you potentially could be setting your your kid up for all these all Already craving these bad foods or a different palette right out the gate It's tough because I feel I really really feel For mothers for a few different reasons one. It's challenging enough. I can't even begin to imagine what it must feel like to lose Partial control of your body have this thing grow inside you that you care about and it's like I mean for all intents and purposes like this little parasite growing inside you that is kind of controlling you Your hormones are changing Your emotions are changing your body's changing can't help it cravings. You're hungry like crazy Yeah, you may feel terrible about yourself because of the way, you know Your look or because the way you feel and you're tired and all these different things And then you want to go eat something think about that that's been that's been happening for thousands of years Totally. Yeah, totally. But I feel it's different now and it's only been different for the last 50 to 100 years We're in abundance is yes. We have an abundance of shit like a woman a thousand years ago Had that's the same hormonal shit same all those things happening on but she if she wanted a bunch of extra calories It's super easy. You just have to be selective now like you really have to just like understand different It's a different challenge. Right completely different challenge and that's a different challenge with children. I don't think back, you know, I don't think for most of human civilization we were Totally strict with what our kids ate besides don't eat that poison food Don't eat that thing that's going to kill you other than that It was more like you better eat because there ain't going to be food, you know, all of it Yeah, so now we have to manage it now we have to manage What our children eat because we're developing their palate. We're developing their brain and their bodies A big part of that is controlling what we eat when we're pregnant and what we eat in front of them And what we eat as a family together and all that different stuff. It's just a new challenge It's a new modern challenge that we have to face But it's an important one and it's definitely one that better to start earlier than later. I'll tell you what man It's uh, you are shaping how your children will want to eat In the future by the way you feed them as children that doesn't mean you turn it into a negative thing either I don't mean right sit there and create this You know crazy environment where you tell your kid they're gonna be fat all the time because you're just gonna be opposite But it just it's it's it's awareness. It's just being aware of it It's like be aware that and and I'm not shaming any pregnant woman that goes out and has an apple pie Like that's not my point of saying that and I'm sure somebody got offended that way But the point is just be a fucking aware of that like you are that is getting in you're digesting that That's getting into your blood and then that's getting served right up to your kids So think about that and if you want the best for them if you know If you know that you already struggle like myself from the way the patterns and the things that my Parents allowed me to eat and do as a kid now I struggle with it my entire life as an adult If you don't want those same things for your kids and think about that when you're when you're consuming food That's you know that you're sharing with them. Absolutely Uh, check this out go to youtube mind pump tv We post new videos all the time. 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