 no no you're not dreaming you saw the title correctly we are finally watching jammuume3 welcome back to our stupid drags we did some Corbin on red you can follow us on instagram of a little non requested film that we unknown film yeah a little unknown film a film that we saw the first one and we will like immediately we're going to get to the second one that was our thought right after that we watched bahubali too and everybody's like in telugu yes in telugu i actually rewatched the the review i don't know if you rewatch or no i watched the recap of bahubali no i watched our review of bahubali one and at first the first time you watched it you watched it hindi dubbed i know it was terrible couldn't stand it but i think we watched the first one in tamo we probably that wouldn't suffice me i know it was filmed in multiple languages but i believe this is a telugu production i know it was filmed in both right but this is one one of the reasons we took so long is because the telugu version was nowhere for us which makes no sense when you consider the fact that this was such a monstrous film yeah why it was so hard to find it in telugu on on netflix it has a tamo and hindi dubbed and like or it was like on youtube and it was a terrible quality and it was like i don't want to watch this film on a terrible quality yeah we didn't want we wanted the good quality and we definitely didn't want it dubbed no in any way no no no not at all but we did finally find it we finally got back on hot star for us in the united states because there's difference in india yeah all the platforms i've discovered sometimes that i'll mention a movie or injrani will say let's watch something and she'll say hey you can watch it it's on netflix and i go to netflix here and i'm like nope it's not sweetie no you guys haven't been in netflix india not here yeah um so anyways yes so we waited about the same time you guys did from the first one of the six but this does prove yet again we will get to it eventually eventually uh bahubali to the conclusion uh directed by ss say his last name for him please raja moody but we know from ego bahubali and he's the director of rr r and then it is uh written by him as well um and starring prowess and rana dago body and anushka sherry and saffi arch i think the i guess rania kisman yes um obviously a lot of people it's a absolute bohemath of a monstrous of a film it's going to be a spoiler review because you've all seen this film yeah like we're the last one it's it's yeah it's massive it's like if i was describing it to somebody in terms of its scope and its size it's like lord of the rings absolutely massive yeah yeah anyways once again under spin spoiler view if you haven't watched it go watch it i'm assuming some of you all have watched it it's like when we're in hindi if you watch like k3g or if you watch kuchkucho at the high you've all seen the film so and this is like the biggest film i believe still i think it still has the record for box office in india yeah last i read because i did check that until rr comes out or right kgf or something like that yes exactly um but rick your initial spoil it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter let's go ahead and do your initial thoughts please i will tell you about the things i like in a second but overall the very first thing i'm going to say is that i didn't like it um and i'm not going to elaborate on what i didn't like for two reasons i i don't feel like it's going to do anything good other than stir up the ire of a fan base who's made it really clear that they don't like me when i don't like what they like and that's a waste of time and that's a waste of energy and it's a waste of the stupid family to to talk about that i felt that the cinematography was literally spectacular i thought the uh visual effects for the most part were spectacular yeah i think it had some moments that made your head scratch in terms of why it was so bad but it wasn't like um i think that was one of our biggest complaints with the original was the consistency with which there were bad this i thought this was a lot better yeah in in in terms of its execution of its visual effects uh and but other than that there there was more about it that i just i just i just didn't like yeah gotcha um i definitely enjoyed this one more than the first one i can tell you that um because i remember coming out of the first one i was like i didn't i don't like it i don't like it at all uh and i didn't even like a lot of the action stuff i thought this one even though i don't think it's it's obviously not a perfect film and i went into this kind of just i want it to be entertained kind of similar to how i go into some of those hindi ones of like it it's not like kuch kuch hold high at all in terms of like that is a bunch of cheesy acting and so it's not like that film but in terms of i'm going into that film i just want to be entertained i went into the same way um so for the most part i did yeah i went in with very low expectations so that i wasn't in a position to yeah like be really really uh there was parts that we'll talk about that i do agree that are still lingered from the first one of same stuff that i kind of just i just wish weren't there yeah and then obviously some vfx stuff i thought this one was very very pretty in terms of the overall cinematography of it the best thing about this is the cinematography cinematography uh i do like kind of like because action is not really my genre i've explained that before um but when you can do it well and why i think sometimes it does do well is when you don't you don't focus on the actors and it's kind of just here's another action scene there's about five minutes of dialogue here's another action scene here's and so if you can keep me entertained in those i'll probably be like okay that's good uh it still wasn't it still wasn't amazing i still wasn't like um blown away um by this film but overall i can say i did enjoy the film uh but there were i i do agree there there were still uh quite a few issues but let's talk about some of the stuff we did like did you like any of the actors in um because i like the character a lot of uh what's her face his love interest the i like the way she was written the first and what was her name sorry the uh this one right davisana yeah anush sorry christian anushka anushka shetty shetty yeah i liked her i liked her character and i like her performance actually as well even though i do there's a lot of melodrama but i i enjoyed her character and how strong the character was i like that was my favorite part about her character was how she was written um and but i there wasn't it was what i it was what i was anticipating based on bahubali it was similar in the in the performances and the stylization it's definitely not my cup of tea yeah this style i think in the same way that you don't like the way sanjay lilamansali stylized devdas and and also the stylization in that bangali film we watched uh where it was uh somewhat i don't want to say hyper theater like one but it was the one the director i'm forgetting his name right now it's the one film of his that we've seen it was very dark banga bangali it was very dark um i don't like maddening i don't recall but anyway um that film but anyway that there's just stuff about this for me and hey what it really boils down to for me is not just in the acting because this this impacts the acting it impacts the overall storytelling the choice of action sequences is i i'm okay when certain films and a lot of them are south indian films when they do stunt work where we've talked about the laws of physics not being there right yeah i understand that and and i can i can strain credulity a lot of the time for that this went for me way beyond straining of credulity and credulity it it entered into the level of why am i even supposed to believe that in any way shape or form and that's one of the things that's difficult for me because all of the action heroes that happen in western cinema when i was growing up and even still to today like the marvel universe first of all all of the marvel universe what makes them so wonderful is everybody has a most of the dc and and marvel superheroes have failings and weaknesses and makes them more relatable and that's the thing about growing up was that the heroes that i grew up with and watched and film the heroes inspired me and made me believe i could be like that i don't feel like bahubali or the characters in this especially him i think it's so ridiculous that it's like you could not only could you never attain this nobody could ever attain this yeah well i i think it's because they're supposed to be godlike i think it has like hindu folk not i don't say folklore but yeah um religious story or it does but even then it's like okay if so for example and i'm not saying this this is this is from anything in the film i'm just giving this as an example or even someone has hindu mythology because we know so little about it but let's say for example you're telling a story about a guy who gets his head chopped off and he gets mad and puts his head back on and spits blood out and then kills you it may be a wonderful piece of literature and it may be a wonderful piece of history but i'm not going to believe a story where a guy got his head chopped off and he got mad and put his head back on and spit blood at you well it depends on the style of film if it's never be if it's fantasy it's no even if it's fantasy you'll never see something like that in unless i mean i can't even imagine anything remotely approximating that everything fantasy that's been popular here in american recent history gamoth ron's lord of the rings the wizarding world they strain credulity but they don't completely defy the laws of probability and physics everybody still is within the time well those are for the most part are still in in the the world where i'm talking like if you get in like gamo doutoro um style you're in a completely different universe um and stuff like that i mean harry potter has a headless person it's uh but it's it's still a ghost it's uh i'm i'm just trying to um tell you the different side of that because there are points to at in certain stories maybe if we knew the story i do agree there was many points of straining credulity in this it was transcendent beyond i'm not like like when obviously they did the the freaking tree thing and then landed like they just jumped five feet well even from i was i was it was cool for like entertainment value but yeah that's even for the completely uh the the the illogic aspects of it because i don't mind i love fantasy i love the fantastical but even at the very beginning of the film so when his when the mom is walking the fire on her head and she has to keep going and not be stopped and the elephant is going crazy right bahubali is in a shed with this statue he's going to pull out and knock the elephant over with and it's going to be an archway for her to walk through how did how did he know that that elephant was going to go on a rampage and he was going to need to do that who locked him in the shed and how was he in the dark knowing the right time for himself to come out and break out of the shed to do that for his mom i just there's so far beyond the capacity of logic that i can't become involved and it was like that throughout over and over and over again where i was like well i think it's mostly just because he's he's he's basically almost a demigod um and so there's a lot of that so it's basically like if um what's his face from moana was was a real life character essentially um the dwayne johnson the dwayne johnson because he was a he was a demigod um and so he was he was essentially bahubali is essentially a demigod um and that's right because that's an interesting whole story but that's a good example there's nothing even remotely close to that in moana um well moana's well he does turn into a shark yeah he does but i mean being a shapeshifter and turning into a shark that is straining credulity uh i i just and it has at least there's some semblance of logical format for for me it there just was way too much stuff where it was like beyond the transcendent understood i just couldn't be i can't when things defy definitively all probability and all laws of physics and all rationale it's extremely difficult for me to give it a tip of the hat and go i'm enjoying that that's that's me gotcha yeah but uh you did enjoy you said the cinematography was unbelievable as was the film editing and sound technical aspects like cinematography editing and sound were spectacular i i am i can imagine i did my best to give myself the full theatrical experience so i had i had my laptop like right here with my air pods full sound lights completely out yeah so it could be as immersed into it as i possibly could yeah and and i can't imagine how amazing it must have sounded like oh my goodness yeah and that's why i'm like i'm really excited about rr because one um same director so i'm i'm hoping because that was one of my favorite parts as well the cinematography was absolutely gorgeous i love the even though we've seen the song before i love it again oh yeah when they kind of went up in the ship and it was kind of like this fantastical song of their like a love song uh between the two i love that uh i thought it was great i do like i know why some of like the action scenes aren't as good as like marvel obviously i know they spend double the amount that even though this is a massive budget marvel spends a double the amount or triple or quadruple or whatever but still i wish i don't care what you spend i just want it to look good so real the fact that you didn't spend as much as marvel means nothing to me because just like i don't care what you make on a film no it's true and you and you don't have to go that route i mean that's one of the that's one of the beautiful things about the original star wars films is it was so real because they didn't have the money to go completely overboard so the majority of what they do is just intimate close believable real things like worse late late lightsaber the worst films were the one two and three where they where they overkill overkill the cgi and it was bad cgi right um and so like even though a lot of the cgi was actually i think really good much better than the first one because they had more money but still there was a lot of moments where it was clear that this was an animated person going right this way or like it's you could tell and obviously it took you out of the moment a lot when that happens and then so that's why i'm like i don't care that you spend half as much i want you to spend the amount it takes to look perfect uh um that's just if that's what your film is going to rely on i want you to spend the i don't care the amount of money just like all these films that have been waiting i'm like okay keep waiting keep working keep fine tuning your film and making it look absolutely perfect because there's films and rr coming out there's uh the parent boo there or not parent boo um the push push pop uh i believe it's another telugu film uh there's that that one with alia and ren bier that's that big epic that they've done like motion posters for yeah that i'm like okay spend all the time you need and literally get the cgi right if your film is focused on cgi the uh avatar films they're filming what the next even though nobody asked for them the next four films all at once and i think one of them's like 70 underwater correct and so they're gonna need to spend years literally just doing the cgi on these films right and you need if they if your film is going to rely on cgi you need to do that it's yeah because if they're watching something and it's flawless cgi and in the next moment you can tell this is just average cgi and you can tell it cgi it it pulls you away and it's just it's not there's no excuse for it i mean to say we didn't have the money it's like okay well then maybe you shouldn't have shot it that way yeah uh but i did like their well i don't know if it's their relationship i did like like how provis defended her she was probably my favorite character in the whole thing um that was cassetti thank you um i liked just the how how strong and independent she was she didn't take anybody's shit even the queen mother whose eyes were about to pop out of her head the entire film like they're like like they looked like they were about to pop outside of her head every single scene was just her pissed off and whenever i hear queen mother it just brings me back to give my throat every single time i was like queen the queen mother uh reminds me of sursey um but she was essentially playing one of those style of characters uh in it i thought the the villain i thought i liked him as a villain i wish they would have written it better um in terms of like dialogue a lot of times i think that's one of the biggest things with these two films bottle belly one bottle belly is a lot of the dialogue seems like cheesy dialogue in terms of like action but i liked him i think he could i think he did a good performance i think he could have been a great performance if it would have given actually a a better script in my opinion yeah i also um didn't feel like we learned anything revelatory knew about why um katapa kills bahubali you know because this was partly supposed to be this is kind you know this is like in flashback other things that were going on at the time that we didn't get to see in the first film kind of like rogue one i guess but with the same characters so for me i i felt like there wasn't anything really satisfyingly concluding in terms of understanding why certain things happen and actually certain things seemed odd in the context of the first one it's like okay i remember what happened in the first one so if this happened to simultaneous we actually have like it feels like two different stories but they can't be because it's supposed to have happened simultaneous and that's another thing oh no they're training no they're two different stories well but it's it's it's the story you're still with bahubali well that's his dad this story was basically the story of his dad you don't pick up on that yes but then we get back to the story yeah i'm killing him at the end yeah right but they are there are two different stories yes i mean it's his grandson it's three generations yeah but this is yeah it's not the same time this was 26 years this most of this film took part 20 i think it said 26 years i'm talking about i'm talking about that that portion of the watt because i maybe it wasn't supposed to be that way maybe they felt like they said everything they were supposed to say about why he did it in the first one yeah i i do agree it wasn't satisfying for me the the why he killed him just that he he wanted to do his duty to defend the king i mean to uh obey the king which seemed incongruent to me uh essentially um because he had committed himself to protect bahubali and he was like just threatened with well if you don't do it okay well i guess i'll do it because i don't want this woman who's wrong to carry the sin of it so i will i just it didn't again it was another one of deeply illogical yeah i do agree with especially that aspect i i don't think that was satisfying i thought we were gonna get some much better reveal of why he stabbed him at the end of the film because i was that the big cliffhanger of oh my god he killed bahubali what why did he kill bahubali and then i was i was i was looking for a better one um i thought the songs in this were good i think i like the first songs better though in terms of the i think i think this one's prettier but i think i remember the songs from the first one i think they were a little more epic i don't know if you remember the songs from the first one very very well i do i think the they said pretty songs but i think the first one i think had better songs in terms of yeah i felt like i don't know i felt like they were kind of comfortable comfortable i do remember being blown away by the visuals of that that song with the ship um yeah that was a fantastic song and the visuals the visuals on that i think they spend all their money incredibly yeah like all their vfx money on that song yeah yeah in general because that was one of the most gorgeous parts of the entire and i really did try like as much as you know i really just think of this as a comic book think of this as as cartoonish think of this as pure mythology that has no grounding in reality but even still it makes it unrelatable to me and when a film is unrelatable and i'm i'm not saying this is the takeaway everybody should have this maybe everybody's cup of tea in the same way that there's certain movies and things that i just i see them like i do not understand the popularity of boyhood uh so i in no way is my saying i don't like it uh uh chastising it and saying anybody who did like this i don't know what's wrong with them i don't know what i just cannot relate i just i just i just can't i can't relate to it so i feel everybody watching is going to be very understanding yeah i doubt that that's why i don't look at the comments hardly at all i've been telling you that from the beginning when i was wise words i'm i'm applying your wisdom the internet is a terrible terrible yeah so all of you writing stuff to me right now on this i can't don't be reading it um but anyways uh i know r is kind of it's supposed to come out in october and if that comes out obviously we will be watching that um hopefully in theaters we'll see yeah um same thing with uh kgf2 man i just want that in theaters push push pot which is the one with faha fasil who's going to be the villain now remember that's right um yeah the teaser which i'm running through the thing it looked really really good i will say this about uh probis and uh um rana dug a body he played the brother right yeah okay they both in the first one but even more so in like in this one as well just whoever their personal trainer is and their dietician man freaking i believed especially probis he carries himself with a way if there's one thing that was if the if i would say there's one thing that was like believable to me uh it was i agree with you it was her as as that as that princess yeah and it would be him which is saying a lot about him because when you're when you're being asked to portray a demigod for life in a better term you're you have to be pretty special to be able to carry that off and that is something i didn't disbelieve him as baghubali yeah in the film it was just everything else surrounding it that was beyond some of the things that he did but him portraying the character i can't imagine them putting anyone else really anyone else in the role yeah because i i think he's perfectly fit for it and very believable i thought everybody was like well cast nobody really stood out to me i wouldn't recast anybody in this i really couldn't envision anybody i just think it's the script and the story for me yeah that that didn't connect well i just feel everybody's going to be very understanding of it yeah well i hope oh yeah enjoy your talk amongst yourselves let us know what the next uh to lugu film we should watch is down below