 To order this is the 21st regular meeting of the 2010 2011 Common Council and as is customary our city clerk Sue Richards will read the quote of the evening Thank You mayor the ultimate measure of leaders is not where they stand in moments of comfort and convenience But where they stand in times of challenge and controversy Thank You sue roll call, please Warren excused bulk here Bowers here Decker here Hammond excused Hannah excused Heidemann here Kat here Kilsen here Montemayor here Rindfleisch here Racler here Samson here Vanderweel here Percy here and Wongamon here 13 present We have a quorum now if we can join alderman Racler in the pledge of allegiance, please I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank You Corey looking for approval of the minutes of the previous Common Council meeting president Kittleson Thank You mayor. I move to approve the minutes of the last council meeting second We have a motion in a second. Is there any discussion? There is no discussion all in favor of approving the minutes say aye opposed Motion carries We have no resignations or appointments or confirmation of appointments this evening if I can call forward a Young man named mr. Malik Muhammad This young man is his name is Malik Muhammad. I don't know if any of you are familiar with him Malik is a sixth grader at Horace man Middle School He is also on the high honor roll He plays in Sheboygan youth football plays on a traveling basketball team plays on a traveling soccer team He also is the NFL punt pass and kick national champion For the 10 and 11 year old categories So I'd like to read a proclamation. I like giving these things This is a from the office of the mayor of the city of Sheboygan. This is a proclamation Whereas Malik Muhammad entered a local NFL punt passing kick competition at Kiwanis Park And after winning two local competitions on December 5th Malik headed to Green Bay to compete for the Packers team championship at the Don Hudson Center And at the December 5th event where he competed against a field of 300 Malik finished first in his age bracket the 10 to 11 year old age bracket for the team competition And whereas Malik then advanced to the national finals Held at the Georgia Dome before the Green Bay Packers Atlanta Falcons Began the NFC divisional championship game This is how I came to notice Malik was when I saw him at halftime receiving this award and Malik Muhammad of Sheboygan won the national championship of the NFL's punt passing kick competition on Saturday January 15th at the Georgia Dome His scores were punt 66.4 pass 129.9 and kick 107 for a total of 303 which gave him first place nationally in his age bracket Now therefore I Bob Ryan by virtue of the authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Sheboygan to hear by proclaim Today February 8th 2011 as Malik Muhammad day in the city of Sheboygan Malik is a fine example of the youth of Sheboygan and their potential. I Was looking for anything that I could find wrong with this young man, and I couldn't find anything anywhere He's an exemplary student an exemplary athlete and a heck of a good guy, but the only thing I could find that may Infringe upon his future success is that he doesn't like to eat in front of girls for some reason Other than that, I think he's destined for greatness. Thank you very much Malik Thank you again and thank you okay moving on to public forum. Yes this evening we have just one person Milkstorm You'd like to come up to the mic My home address is 1736 Marvin court There are two issues that I would want to thank you first for allowing me to come here There are two issues that I would like to address this evening One is the vision and the mission of the wellness committee and if time permitting that my favorite topic is My property tax payments, especially for education Last week as I was at the city clerk's office I recognized a gentleman having a conversation with the assistant city attorney and From my knowledge of him. I know that this gentleman when he speaks he is not for lacking of words So I sat down in a comfortable chair in the hallway, and then I noticed that there was some white literature that was available I can find it Well, it was the mission committee or Or the wellness committee is what it was I'm on this place that where everyone well anyway There it is With my age, you know memory is kind of slow This is the vision statement and the mission statement of the wellness committee Now the vision of the wellness committee has five Agendas, but I'm only going to touch on two of them. The first one was the second one is to become a leader in a well-city initiative I always visioned that Cheboygan was the sin city or is that Phoenix, Arizona? And the other one is the last one is to Establish a wellness first decision in the process that is embedded in all city Decisions while I can just envision how the Older men on our council are going to really improve the vision and the wellness of this community I'm sorry. Apologize for my Sense of humor, but sometimes I get carried away Now the mission statement. That's a real one. In fact, it improves the frosting on your cake because because it There's some very good Now it's at least it's like to read it and I was kind of mused of it the mission of the wellness committee is to promote an effective and proactive wellness program that fosters long health and drives changes in the Lifestyles of our family of city workers and dependents Well, I find that quite interesting because I find that a lot of the lawyer politicians in Washington DC and also the lawyer politicians we in Heaven Madison they really know how to screw up a government initiative Now don't get me wrong here. I'm all for the wellness committee but I am also in Favor of improving the lifestyle of our citizens of our communities too now on to the tax issue Which is always seems to be a hot topic last week I paid my first half installment in my property tax and I've owned my home for 45 years and paid the property taxes sometimes when I Have this county treasurer mark my Tax bill paid in protest and haven't marked in yellow. I'm not protesting that my taxes are too high I'm I'm just Amused or irritated at the misuse of my public tax dollars Initiated by usually the school board and their administrators and some of the teachers union my 2009 property tax contribution to education increased twelve point two percent and my 2010 property taxes now increased to seven point four percent, which is almost the twenty percent Increased in two years, and I haven't had a raise in Social Security for two years So how am I supposed to pay for that? The market value of my home has now decreased twenty five thousand dollars from about a hundred fifty thousand down to a hundred and twenty one thousand Well, I thank you for listening to me and hope that I haven't been Too well informed, but I'm certainly trying to hopefully improve the wellness of my spirit and my soul before I do expire Thank You milk That is all for public forum this evening Mayor's announcements. We will have none this evening. So we will move right on to Public hearings we have two public hearings this evening Number one is a public hearing for the proposed assessment for repaving of South 18th Street from Washington Avenue to the South Line of Fox Hill Road and To run concurrently the second public hearing is for the proposed assessment for the resurfacing of North Avenue From North 10th Street to North 15th Street Is there anyone that would like to be heard in the first public hearing? Which is regarding South 18th Street if you if you would like to be heard, please raise your hand now Yes, sir Please step up your name and address, please Gary Messick. My address is 1825 North 5th Street My parents are Garrett and Gloria, Mexico. They live on the corner of 18th in Washington South 18th Street isn't the only thing that needs to be repaired The city's special assessment tax design is in dire need of repair. I Challenge this council to make the changes that are needed to reform this uneven tax Taxes should be grounded in fairness with a dose of the ability to pay The city's special assessment tax does neither Why isn't it fair? How many citizens have had special tax assessments? If it's a fair design it would rotate and would affect all citizens evenly, but that's not the case Some roads last a hundred years Some last 40 years and if you have a poorly constructed one like 18th Street, it only lasts 31 years But rather than having this large burden of added surtax to all the citizens over equally over time It's a haphazard system If by chance you live on a street that's in disrepair you have that added burden If you happen to live on a cul-de-sac or in a in a subdivision that has little traffic You'll never see a special assessment However, if you live on the corner of 18th in Washington like my parents, you've had three of them It's not and that's exactly the problem. It's not fair that some citizens don't have any special tax Some have one some have two and the unfortunate ones have three furthermore, there's no element of ability to pay in that system the tax isn't based on your income It's not based on your property value. In fact, I would assert that it is a negative an inverse ability to pay Factor after all who ends up living on the cul-de-sacs and the residential areas that do not get much traffic and compare that to who lives on the Well-traveled streets and the truck routes the monies that we're talking about are not inconsequential My folks are getting a bill for eighty six hundred plus dollars That's a heck of an extra tax burden on top of your own property taxes Especially when you consider this is the third time they've gotten it for the same property and when you And you also have to consider that many of the people that are doing this are like my parents Who are? Who have a social security is their primary source of income and now they have this extra surtax of another eighty six hundred dollars This is an inequitable system that needs an overhaul and I challenge this council to make changes So that it would be a fair system for all Thank You Gary is there anybody else with that would like to be heard sir And I have your name and home address, please Sure, my name is Jim Lampy and I live at 1807 Washington Avenue and Lampy Lampy Lampy This is more or less a follow-up of where Gary left off Matter of fact we live across the street from the mess ex We're We're in that same position Where our home faces are? Washington Avenue, so our main Taxes come from Washington Avenue, but being on the corner we get taxed twice so we are we are our Taxed our main tax comes from the main road then we have our side road and When when you look at the corner lots Our lot is narrow and We have no There is no use for us to have the road there in the beginning if we had our way When the road was proposed we were even fought for the road not to go through because it does us There there is there's nothing there to gain from us The water the piping the street all go To other places So as Gary Messick said it's it's not a fair Assessment of the different pieces of property as you go down the street Depending upon where where you live on the cul-de-sacs on the corners you get Assessed differently and And it should it should be a Fair assessment to look at what your property is and What you can put on the property or not put on the property and where it is And so I'm going to keep it brief but It's a shame that the road didn't last We have The main street in front of our house Washington Avenue The trucks pound that street every day the kids go to South High That road is holding up fairly well when it comes to 18th Street it failed and and so It's it's so unfair to the taxpayers in that area that for what is for for whatever reason that That concrete did not hold up We are being told that we're gonna have to Pay for that street all over again, and I I really think that's unfair Now the other thing that I was going to mention on the street, which I Don't know if the alderman knows know know this but I talked to the engineer in Charge of the design and He said we're gonna narrow that street And I see you're gonna narrow the street and he said yes, we're gonna narrow that street and I said 18th Street is one of the Highly traveled streets on the south side of Sheboygan and they said well we want to slow the traffic down So we're gonna narrow the street But then has anybody thought our two fire stations are on that street Now you look and go down that street and You will find out that With the snowstorm we have and there are a lot of cars that parked on that street and now we're narrowing that street We should take a real close look at that Through the fire department through other cities and find out is that what we want to do narrow that street I questioned that because I just see that use an awful lot and That's basically all I have to say. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Jim Is there anybody else that would like to be heard in this public hearing ma'am And can I get your name and home address? I'm Gloria Messick and my husband and I live on 17 Washington Avenue and I thought there'd be a lot more people here from the 18th Street. I'm very surprised that there aren't but I'd I'd like to I Would like for each of you here tonight to try to put yourself in my place I assume most of you live in Sheboygan and that streets that you live on are Perhaps 20 30 maybe 40 years old maybe even a hundred If you had your home built you paid for the street in front of it if you purchased already built home You paid for the street when you purchased your lot How would you feel if someone came and told you that your street was no longer adequate and had to be replaced And you would have to pay thousands of dollars for that not resurfaced Which would cost far less but replaced Never mind that the concrete near your home does not seem to be a problem or that you had no complaint You will get new curbs new concrete new everything the street will be designed to be narrower So you'll have a little more room between the sidewalk and the curb Of course, you'll have to do a little landscape add a little grass and so forth It isn't our problem if you want these changes You are told the city has police power under the Wisconsin statutes to levy special assessments upon your property Most people would say that if that's the law the city should exercise it Well, we feel the law does not apply in this instance South 18th Street is only 31 years old and it was guaranteed by city ordinance to last for at least 40 years um According to a shabuigan press article dated 11011 the shabuigan deputy public works director stated the pavement on 18th Street failed prematurely When people involved pointed out that we were guaranteed that the street would last for 40 years and many complaints were registered by the people in area our area We were given a warranty discount credit based on the nine years left of the guarantee Webster's dictionary says that a guarantee is an assurance of the quality of Or the length of use to be expected from a product since we were given a warranty discount on our assessments is Is that not an acknowledgement that the guarantee of quality of and length of use was not met And the street did not live up to what was promised to us The city officials signed the contract in 1979 Adjacent homeowners were assessed for their share of the cost and they merely paid. What was assessed them? It was the responsibility of the city officials at that time to oversee the project and to assure that things were done properly The people serving and working for the city were sure enough of the streets Construction that they gave the property owners a 40 year guarantee Why are we the property owners who were given that guarantee? Expected to share expenses for the mistakes or assumptions that were made by our city leaders in 1979 Please think about what I've said and ask yourself how you would feel if you were in my place It's my hope that you will realize the decisions that have been made should be reviewed And then I have another area of contention for this in the same Category we own the home located on the corner lot of Washington Avenue and 18th Street The fund front of our home and our driveway face Washington Avenue and all utilities come into our home from Washington Avenue South 18th Street is the abutting Street and In a for us is not necessary in any way It doesn't benefit us because our driveway goes out on Washington all our utilities come from Washington Avenue The city has recognized that the second side of a corner lot is a problem for all those who own corner lots and they routinely give a Up to a 120 foot exemption when one has already paid for all of the expenses for its frontage lot Well, we are told that since is the third paving for our home And we were given the customary 30 feet, which was customary in 1979 We will not be eligible for any discount on this third paving Again, this is a replacement paving It isn't it isn't the first time it's been done and for a street that we that did not live up to its guarantee We feel we should be given the deduction that is now standard and would you real would you just consider this inequity? I thank you Thank you, Mr. Messick Would anybody else like to be heard regarding this matter? Would anybody else like to be heard regarding this matter? And as is customary for the third time would anybody else like to be heard in this public hearing President Kittleson I've moved in mayor that the hearings be closed like it. We have a motion and a second to close the hearings Is there any discussion? There is none all in favor of clothing closing the hearings say aye opposed Motion carries The hearings are closed. Thank you everybody for speaking consent agenda 21-1 through 21-24 President Kittleson. Thank you mayor. I Move that all our C's be accepted and adopted all our O's be accepted and placed on file and all Ordinances and resolutions Second we have a motion and a second on the consent agenda 21 1 through 21 24 under discussion There is no discussion on the consent agenda roll call, please Bulk Bowers hi Decker Heidemann hi cut hi Kittleson hi Montemay or hi Rinflaish Racler hi Samson. Hi Vanderweel. I verse II and one 13 eyes motion carries communications and petitions 21-25 to be referred Reports of officers to 21-26 through 21-36 to be referred Resolutions introduced three 21 37 by Alderpersons Hannah Kittleson Racler and verse II lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire an environmental engineer in the Department of Public Works President Kittleson Thank You mayor. I'd make a motion to put the resolution 21-37 upon its passage second We have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion We have Alderman Bursi Thank you Just just a note to everyone else that this wasn't a budget that was one key item We talked about what these next three items all three of these that were lifting hiring for hiring freeze for were in the budget Thank You, Alderman Bursi We have any further discussion on 21 37 Alderman Bulk. Thank you, Mr. Question is this exempt or non-exempt or sorry represented or non-represented Non-represented position as we know Alderman Bulk they will be coming in paying 50% of their retirement Any further discussion? If there is none on 21 37 roll call, please Hi Decker Heidemann hi Kat Kittleson hi Montemay or I rinflash. Hi Racler. Hi Samson. Hi, Vander wheel. I first see hi and 13 eyes motion carries 2138 by Alder persons Hannah Kittleson Racler and versey lifting the hiring freeze in order to recall laid-off employees to budgeted positions as they become vacant during 2011 in the Department of Public Works President Kittleson. Thank You mayor I make the motion to put resolution 21-38 upon its passage second We have a motion and a second to put 21 38 upon its passage under discussion under discussion Just as it says we'll be recalling people who have previously worked in the Public Works Department to come back as for emergency Situations are when jobs become available Thank You president Kittleson Alderman Bulk Thank You miss marriage just want to make sure I understood what president Kittleson just said So are these for emergency purposes or as soon as there are vacancies due to retirements these members will be coming back Vacancies available okay vacancies available and that we didn't make I just want to make sure I didn't miss anything Then there were no conversations. We weren't successful in negotiating any of those people to come back contributing to their retirement or These are represented employees that and we okay right the the advantage to As we as we do have some retirements and we do have some coming up as we can recall For these budgeted positions. They are in the budget the laid-off employees when we exercise that list of laid-off employees then by contract we can hire Part-time summer help which we couldn't do last summer The idea is if we can get enough retirements and exercise that list of laid-off employees that we can again bring back part-time summer help Without the benefit package and the and the the higher salaries, okay? Thank you, miss Maria I'll be voting no on this just because of the intransigence of the represented groups when it came time to budget time a few months ago So I'm gonna urge my colleagues for no on this as well We'll not bring them back And then we'll have that conversation then about how we could bring them back more affordably the way the cola company has no way that Harley-Davidson has no way the Mercer marine has thank you. Thank you all to move out any further discussion If there is none on 21 38 roll call, please hours. Hi Decker. Hi Heidemann hi, hi Kittleson hi Montemay or I rin flesh. Hi racer hi Samson. Hi Vander wheel I verse II long a man and bulk no 12 eyes one no motion carries 2139 by Alderpersons Hannah Kittleson Raceler and versey lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire a part-time cemetery supervisor Slash administrative assistant in the Department of Public Works President Kittleson. Thank you, mayor I'd make a motion to put resolution 21-39 upon its passage second You have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion and under discussion I believe this is just a position again. That's in the budget It's it has been vacant for a while I believe the person that left the position and now they're just trying they want to hire somebody again in this very important Cemetery supervisor Administrative assistant position part-time. Thank you President Kittleson Alderman Boak Mayor just want to confirm is this a schedule X employee that can't go more than 600 hours and Will never be entitled to benefits. I know I don't believe it's schedule X Director of Public Works a little bit there will come up This is not a schedule X employee. This is a Regular non-represented a Supervisor position when we created a few years ago. We did something unique We started saying our regular employees don't necessarily have to be full-time people But it is it is a regular position with the city to get ahead. It's not represented. So it that will have the 50% Retirement The person that was in this job recently will this person have those same kind of responsibilities where they're kind of the marketing of it And yes the selling of it and so it's that same role. Yes, just only it's replacing that the position We created a couple years ago. Very good. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you all them about thank you bill Any further discussion on 2139 There is no further discussion roll call, please Decker. Hi Heidemann. Hi. Hi Kittleson. Hi, Montemay or I win flesh. Hi, Racler. Hi, Samson. Hi, Vander wheel. Hi, Versi. Hi, Longer than I Bulk I and Bowers. Hi 13 eyes Motion carries 2140 by Alder persons Hannah Kittleson Racler and Versi lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire a chemist Industrial wastewater supervisor in the Department of Public Works President Kittleson. Thank you, Mayor I'd ask to put Resolution 21-40 upon its passage Second we have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion under discussion It's as you said a chemist industrial wastewater supervisor in the Department of Public Works Thank you all to person Kittleson President Kittleson any further discussion If there is no further discussion roll call, please Heidemann. Hi Kittleson. Hi Montemay or I win flesh. Hi, Racler. Hi, Samson. Hi Vander wheel. Hi, Versi. Hi, Wongamon. Hi, Bowers and Decker. Hi, 13 eyes motion carries 2141 and 2421 42 lie over 2143 to be referred Report of committee 7 2144 by law and licensing recommending denying taxi cab drivers license number 893 to based upon his failure to include all relevant convictions on his application his record of violations and public safety Concerns vice president Rinflaich. Thank you, mr. Mayor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted Second you have a motion and a second to accept and adopt. Thank you is Clifford Aaron right here He's not here your honor. Please continue. Thank you Mr. Aaron right revealed 07 disorderly conduct in 09 speeding the Conduct actually happened in 08 and the speeding was also in 08 He did not list several items including another 08 disorderly conduct a Speeding in 08 bail jumping in 09 theft in 2010 speeding in 2010 and effective signal in 2010 is the committee's recommendation based on the history of Convictions He did cooperate by a tent by attending the meeting but generally he's been fined be uncooperative with the police When he does get in trouble and didn't really take responsibility for his own actions. It was blaming other people and so we felt strongly as a community that It was in our best interest in public safety to deny tax a cable hoppers license. Thank you. Thank you, Vice President Kittleson under discussion Yeah, I got the vice president right for a change, okay I was proud of myself. I remember vice president Rinflaich. Okay Under discussion anyway Okay, if there is no discussion roll call, please Cut I Kittleson I Excuse me. I Montemay or I Rinflaich. Hi racer. Hi Samson. Hi Vander wheel. Hi. Versi. Hi. Longamon Bowers I Decker hi and Heidemann. Hi 13 eyes Motion carries Ordnance is introduced 10 21 45 to be referred matters laid over 11 2041 resolution number 193-1011 by Alderman Hammond creating a Tiff Standing Joint Review Board President Kittleson Thank You mayor. I'd ask that resolution 20-41 Creating a Tiff standing joint review board be put upon its passage second You have a motion in a second president Kittleson. I know you got caught off guard Can you do a little Alderman Hammond is not here what this does because of What we what what the city has done in the past is Every time that work was done on a Tiff an amendment or a creation We had to establish another board what this does is have a continuous board because of the Development efforts that we have going on in the city right now that we don't have to go through a month or month and a half Delay every time to call another board. This continues the same board Thank You president Kittleson under discussion if there is no discussion roll call please Versi Resolution passes 2042 resolution number 194-1011 by Alder persons Boran Heidemann Hammond Decker and Versi authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into agreement with Visu sewer for the change order number three Western interceptor project for additional costs of equipment leasing during the permitting delay due to the Wisconsin Department of Transportation Alderman Heidemann I have make a motion that 2042 be put upon its passage second We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion I'd like to call Director Bittner Bill this has to do with the big black sewer pipe along Washington Bill this is a $78,000 change order which which sounds low is a lot of dollars. It's a change order to a major Rehabilitation of one of our interceptor sewers, which is really a sewer that runs all the way from the treatment plant actually down a Corridor not necessarily Washington Avenue But eventually crosses the freeway on Washington Avenue and serve as much of our city and many of our cities to the West The project was a 2.6 million dollar project and has been let actually before the first of the year in 2009 for completion in 2010 one of the issues was Getting the bypass piping many of you are familiar with all the piping on Washington Avenue and all the little Roadways people had to go over that was really to dry the sewer pump above ground in the piping So be able to completely rehab the sewer system when we looked at going through the Highway we were met with some resistance from the DOT and how and when we could do that And what would be the best way to do it and really wound up with many months of Negotiation before getting a permit one of the issues was where they thought we could actually put a small pipe through their storm drainage another issue was for several months before the PGA golf tournament They didn't want any work done on the roadway and all of a sudden we got several months of delay Which is now being finished now the change order is really for the cost incurred by the contractor Because we couldn't give them a permit to proceed with the work involves mostly Equipment rental there's huge pumping equipment. There's piping etc. That had to go there from fall till this spring The details are reviewed by our consulting engineer and made sure that it was all about additional cost cost the contractor Any questions I guess Thank You bill Alderman Bowers. Thank you Since the additional cost of seventy eight thousand is due to the delay by the state Why isn't the state paid for this? Well this the state Whether you consider them reasonable or not they were in their rights to deny us a permit And we'll we'll argue that they acted rationally. We would argue different But there we were getting a permit to cross their right of way we needed that permit for the contractor to proceed and It took us several months to get that permit, but I don't think you're gonna get any You're gonna get any dollars back from the state because they're gonna argue that they were in their own rights To do what they did and deny us the permit until we became to an agreement because I've received a number of phone calls on this project Even though it isn't in my district and they wonder what's been holding this up And I I know I talked with you and you said this will be done by the first of the year and some other problems came up Which is probably this one So now we have a two million six hundred thousand dollar project another seventy eight thousand due to the state of Wisconsin in neptus We have to bear it Of course the contractor has the additional cost and he's passing it on to us which it's understandable so I Don't see any other way out of this outside of you know appealing to the state which they'll Probably turn around but this thing should have been done a Good six months ago, and that that is about the timeline that we lost in Permit our goal was to always have it done By the end of the construction season in 2000. So we have two things that we're not really at fault The contractor is not at fault, but we have the state of Wisconsin, which essentially is at fault for this The delay and now we have the additional cost based on us I Think the DOT would would argue. Yeah, well, I'm sure they would completely differently. We are They are within their authority to put requirements on their permit and we live with that Okay Thank You Alderman Bowers Alderman Samson. Yeah, I'm sure you might want to hang out for a while. Thank you. Mr. Mayor I guess as part of the planning process of this part of the plan was Ahead of time that we were crossing over the interstate So there were we already there. I'm sure we were already aware that we had to obtain permits Why were permits never obtained prior to starting work or getting closer to that? first of all the project was done because the Sewer in question we were felt was was in danger of imminent failure So that project was was sped up in the process We obtained right-of-way permits from the power company We obtained right-of-way permits from the railroad and we needed right-of-way permits from the Department of Transportation the reasonable assumption Was that the transportation of the three of those would be considerably easier to work with because they work with utilities Routinely and regularly and we routinely and regularly have a process you get the permit with That process did not happen on the timely manner that we expected it to but yes, you're right those permits weren't in place Before the bid was left. That's that's pretty typical that you look for Processes that happen regularly and routinely to happen in that routine manner in this case. It didn't Is there any process to? budget in slight excesses because that's a seventy eight thousand dollar assumption the the project was budgeted at two point nine billion million excuse me the Bids came in at about two six and a half So we're still well within the budget amount or estimate of the cost of the project Okay, so the seven when you were so when you're explaining seventy eight thousand dollars more There's already an extra amount of budgeted money that was already there So we're still not going over budget technically is that right and this this comes out of the waste water fund correct? Yes, and this is also partially funded by the outlying communities that take advantage of this interceptor sewer I can recall I was on public works a couple years back And we had a really neat video of this interceptor sewer and it showed the interceptor sewer with Stuff running from the outside into the sewer literally waterfalls coming into the sewer Which is why this process was sped up because if this sewer would have collapsed being a main interceptor sewer You literally would have had entire towns and sections of the city without sewer So that's why this process was sped up on the funding this project is being built by contract between four of her Ourselves and three of our neighbors the city is bill that are paying about 45 percent of the cost Thank You bill any further discussion If there is no roll call, please come on to me or I Rin Flesch I racer I Samson I Vanderweel I verse II long a man Oh, hi powers. Hi, Decker. Hi Heidemann I And Kittleson I 13 eyes motion carries other matters authorized by law 2146 In our row by the purchasing agents submitting bids enlisting of other expenses for the remodeling of vacant space on the first floor of City Hall to accommodate the city clerk's office and finance department's payment center will be referred to finance 2147 will also be referred to finance other matters authorized by law attorney McLean 2149 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a communication from Larry Whiting requesting a two-year extension on the sump pump hookup to the storm sewer That will be referred to if you have just a moment, please public works 2150 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a claim from AFNI insurance services representing Roger and Sandra Ruppel For alleged damages to their windshield due to rocks coming out of a mulching machine will be referred to risk management 2151 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a communication from Jim young Stating that he is upset about the treatment they received from the supervisor applying during the snowstorm Referred to public works 152 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30, 2011 and June 30, 2012 Referred to vice president Rin Flesch in law and licensing 2153 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a claim from Michael Tico for the towing and storage of his vehicle Referred to risk management 2154 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a claim from Michael Tico for alleged damages to his vehicle when a snowplow Return in front of him also referred to risk management And that is all for other matters Keep going into closed session we will be Turning off the television cameras When we will not be back on the air this evening just so everybody knows President kiddleson, thank you mayor I'd like to make a motion to convene and close session under the exemption contained in section 19.851 e Wisconsin statutes for the purpose of deliberating the purchasing of public property We're competitive in bargaining reasons require us closed session and under the exemption contained in section 19.851 g Wisconsin statutes for the purpose of conferring with legal counsel for the city who is rendering oral advice Concerning strategy to be adopted by the city with respect to litigation in which it is involved Namely, Holloway versus Cib mc and city of Sheboygan case number 09 cv 1606 second we have a motion in a second to convene in To convene in closed session all in favor say aye opposed We need a roll call on closed session excuse me Bowers Decker Heidemann cut Kittleson hi Montemay or Rimsley hi Raceler Samson, I van der Wiel Versi I And one woman 13 eyes Okay, we are going into closed session now We will have a five-minute recess in order to have make sure the cameras are shut down