 Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. Here we go. Oh, so man, I'm gonna get into the music a little bit man Just when did you first find your love for like producing? We'll start there because that's kind of what that's why you started No, music first. Yeah What did you do for some music at the age of two, you know At the age of two growing up in the church in a church, right? So my dad once again playing the drums at the church when I was old enough You know I'm saying as a baby He would take me in the car seat while he played in service So when I was old enough to walk into church I would walk all the way to the drum set and just sit there the whole service Even through Sunday Bible school when they not singing I was asleep. No, I was just there just sitting there You know I'm saying so one thing led to another that's when I fell in love with the music aspect Once I got a little older around like eight or nine. I saw by while on TV. Okay, I don't swing me came I was like, okay, like dang like I ain't no a kid can do this Yeah, so I went home and wrote my first rap in the bathroom. It was something about Raymond noodles or something like that That's cool, right? So when I did that it was you know, it was dope, but I never stopped Wrapping I always wanted to chase what I saw so You know that was cool Then I got in the group called the Panjee kids and then we went on one on six and part we went Palo man you the second nigga that came on everyone on one on six and part Let me go there for a minute. So so the road told me it didn't look like it what it looked like on TV No, he said it's a little like a he says it's a little smaller set. Yeah, yeah Really and he said but but it looked different on TV because I used to watch it I seen Michelle fall when they sold you where you got it. I'm the hottest around came I and I seen a fall in and they sidestep But it was crazy but that that one on six and part movement man is gone But how was it just being on set with who was you with you had to be with the younger ones? You wasn't with AJ and you was with Yeah, how was that it was cool Tans Jay brought some shoes. Okay from me The shoes that I had on it was the animal animal pack 95s. I believe I'm a real big sneaker. Yeah Yeah, we done interviewed them to miss me. Yeah, so, you know, he did It was cool. It was the same show as Lady Gaga. Okay. She was yeah, she was on that show and wrote him He was on the same show. Yeah wrote to me was on that show and us and then Lady Gaga was like a guest host So it was dope. You know, you had to be young. I was young. Yeah, really young Like it was probably like right when I saw probably like 17 Yeah, that's young man like like like to be but to be able to see that that had to inspire you as well It's you because that that was the hard work that we was putting in because before I left Florida and went to Tennessee We had a little buzz in the city. You know, I'm saying and then it kind of just stopped But I was like now at the time we didn't know how to send vocals through the email Yeah, I ain't know about pro tools back then we was honestly off the The the what's the the big the the stereo, you know, I'm saying like off tapes You know I'm saying we would take the tapes to the spot and he'll put it on CD for us. That's dope It wasn't mixed it wasn't mass, but we had the song and it was doing we was doing some hustling flow type of That feels that builds structure and integrity and that makes you love your craft I think a lot of times the people who're doing it now is so easy and simple That they really don't really understand what's going on in the fact of respecting it the way that they should Because it's so fast. You can make man. You can make music. So it's so easy Different than what it used to be facts you the thing is back then you kind of like you said you appreciate the whole process now you can You can record a song on your phone, but it's hard for people who were there back then and used to that That form of doing business and then now Transform into this technology world. Some people can't transform and that's what they stay with it You got people like Snoop Dogg, right? Right, he don't know how to do it. No, you know, I didn't know how to evolve Yeah, it's either that or you're gonna stay right where you at Left behind well Jay-Z he evolved he got you know, he don't even mess with the Instagram and all that but he knows By and develop stuff, you know, he knows it needed He'd really in tune with what's happening And I think that's a lot of time the ones who excel because really that's the old geez to me The ones who really creating a paved way for people to walk down for instead of just sitting back talking about the youngsters I don't get on with that Yeah, if you ain't gonna show them how to come this way and show them how to jump then Shut up about it because at the end of the day, we created a lot of the mess that we talk about You know what I'm saying, but that's what being real and being older You're supposed to be able to understand where a person is that and then how to get them where they go And that's a real troubleshooting technician to be understood to help the youngster to make it through so a lot of time They just talk it and I don't get on with that So some of these people actually know how to do it or they don't hire people to do it for them No, no, it's a bunch of them to get technical I would think what you think you almost do I feel like a lot of times you have to have to know how You know I'm saying nowadays once you get to a certain level you can pay people to say, okay Look, I don't want to do that. You know I'm saying like let me go ahead and get like like Jay-Z I know for a fact he didn't make the Instagram page You know I'm saying it's his but he probably like now go ahead and get everything right I need to and blase block but man when you are really tapped in Like you really kind of got to be in them trenches and know exactly what's going