 It's so stupid it's positively Yep, shall I mean the guy Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots and Welcome to another week. We're back. I had a nice little two week. It's good to have you back, bro It's good to have you back Listen, man, I thugged it out. No I got on a plane with the family and we flew down to South Carolina And I'm I was home amongst corner for a little while and then I stayed on the Isle of Palms for a couple of weeks, man Hmm, and you know Once I got there They declared the state of South Carolina Coronavirus hotspot. Whoa, and it didn't take me long to realize why they are coronavirus hotspot. Why? Because all you see in South Carolina is people with no mask. Mm-hmm and no shoes on And I'm not stereotyping I'm not racial profiling. I'm just saying that at least 99.9% of those folks were Caucasian. Really? Oh, yes I didn't realize and maybe I did realize it, but I didn't think it was a thing thing I didn't realize not wearing a mask is a political statement. Hmm. I Didn't know that I Didn't realize that I didn't realize that if people are are making political statements by saying hey We're not going to wear a mask, right? This is my idea of rebelling against the system, you know, people can't tell me what to do, right? I'm like, oh, okay. I just don't want to get sick Yeah, that's it. That's it and if they're telling me that wearing a mask is what decreases your chances of Getting infected with coronavirus are spreading it. If you're asymptomatic, I'm just doing my part for the ecosystem, right? That's all and what do you think that they're pushing back against like government overreach? I Guess I have no idea, bro. I think it's a combination of two things. I think it's a combination of people, you know, not wanting to be told what to do by the government and also People were riding with the president, right? But even he wore a mask. He was at the hospital. He wore a mask finally Yeah, he wasn't wearing one before Finally, but you know, you've been beating it in people's heads for weeks that I Do have to wear a mask. You don't have to wear a mask Want to wear a mask wear a mask who cares? Like, you know, I think that we we really don't understand how easily Influenced people are and that's not a black thing. It's not a white thing, you know, that's just a thing in America People are easily influenced by those they look up to right That's just that's just what it is. That's why you have religious leaders. That's why you've had cult leaders That's why you have, you know Stands, you know, people follow the superstars the way that they do That's why you people who were who who worship teams like that's just We live in an idol culture here in America And if your idol ain't doing something you probably not doing something either your idol is doing something You're probably gonna fall in line and do that as well So we follow the things that the people who influence us do I But yes, 100% right and follow them whether they're good for us or bad for us I Think we're following them because we think they're good for us are are at some point They've done something that has been good for us. Are they've done something that has made us feel good I it's some type of benefit They have given us in some way and that's why we continue to follow them so I guess my question is how much responsibility do we have as Leaders over the people that follow us a lot and should we be held accountable for the behavior of our followers? And that's not just politicians, but like entertainers, you know Rock stars, you know if rock stars are out there living some crazy life with a fucking up hotel rooms And all that kind of stuff and they're marketing that should They be accountable if their fans start doing the same thing To a certain no to a certain extent though, right? Because if you have a song called tear the fucking hotel room up, right? Like yeah, you know and back in the day with three six mafia had a song called tear the club up When you play tear the club up motherfuckers start tearing the club up. Hey, that's a that's a call to action, baby It's the reason that that song was banned Hell yeah, that shit was banned what you mean The club up was banned like like I don't know if it was I don't know if it was CNN. I don't know if it was just clubs across the country That song was banned like you could at least in South Carolina. You couldn't play that you couldn't play tear the club up Really? I'll give you a better example CNN definitely back in the day ran a story on young jeezy and his Snowman t-shirts, okay, right because they knew jeezy at the time was rapping about selling massive amounts of cocaine He was the snowman so there was schools that had banned the snowman shirt That's why jeezy came out the mixtape can't ban the snowman, right now I don't know if that I don't know if he was influencing people to sell drugs But he was influencing people to embrace the lifestyle that we know is not constructive for them So I guess what I'm trying to say is like at what point do we or do we ever have to feel responsible? Like I said, I think it's when you're giving somebody a direct call to action So if you but if if if we Okay, so direct calls to action we're responsible for but just our every day every day today behavior We're not responsible if people follow that No, I definitely think we are because there's some people who um showing proof through actions and deeds More than words and lip service so you can watch the way somebody lives And be inspired you can watch the way somebody lives and be influenced. That's why I think early on You know people were like other Republicans were saying Trump put the goddamn mask on You know I'm saying not not because not just because it's good for the health of the country. It's good politically You know what I'm saying like like like be be a leader You know like like like show. Hey my leader is doing this too So the rest of the country will follow that's why it was so dangerous when he wouldn't put one on That's why everybody got so up and on like bro. You're the president if you don't put one on what you think Others are gonna do I guess I don't understand why it's become political because You would think that The best thing for the economy would be if we could go back outside and purchase things and consume And the only way that we can do that without spreading corona is if people are using proper masks So you'd think a a strong economy president, which is what trump runs on is gonna go Where the shit that lets the economy start humming again Well, you know, I think wearing a mask for somebody like donald trump is admitting that you're wrong Right. So now he's dug his heels into the no mask He's doing that hilltale. He got nothing Not just the no mask. The fact that corona virus isn't real Hey, you know what I mean? That was his first thing like corona virus is a democratic hoax It's not real right. It's gonna go away I mean just two days ago. He goes If you test half of the people you'll only have half of the cases I mean, he's right He's not right, bro We could do it all our whole life. The I don't have an std. I don't have an std test You know what I mean? You can't get the stds without the test It's better as a joke When it's a joke when it's a joke on stage it rips when it's coming from the president It sounds stupid as fuck. Okay. Yeah, but ignoring ignoring a problem does not make it go away, especially when it's herpes But it doesn't go away if you know, you have it That is hold on. Let me think yeah Yeah Hold on. You said it doesn't go away if you know, you have it. That is very true You might as well just call it braille But the thing is you know, you have it, right? So whether you're ignoring it or not, you can't ignore them You can't ignore them gentle watch down there, baby. Yeah, you're right and my outbreaks is dead. What's happening? I'm here What's popping brand new herpes just popped it Herpes rental car What did you what did you see this week? Uh, that was politically brilliant? Uh, absolutely fucking idiotic You know, it was absolutely idiotic. I'm gonna be selfish with this one But we did this great piece on uh, glenn maxwell, who was jeffrey eppstein's accomplice Yes, and she's still alive. She's still alive allegedly. Who knows? I lost my bed You had her out you had her out early. I had her out early I can play with her. They're getting her out first in him, baby. They're not even gonna play with her They already set the tone They already set the tone with eppstein. We know what they expect. They're gonna get her out early, right? So We did this piece We put it up on youtube instagram facebook and I put a little clip of it up on twitter It gets over a million views on facebook and then facebook takes it down Why bullying If the hell are you bullying if there's one group of people that you should be able to bully it's convict Pedophiles bruh What the fuck convict it you can't call someone who's a convicted pedophile pedophile No, I can't it couldn't be because of her it had to be you know, I mean and I love I didn't I haven't I didn't see that one Uh, but I love I love those videos that you do Bruh, you must you must have did a you must have did a quick little joke a jab at somebody else I mean, yeah, there's tons of jokes, but every one of them We do jokes and jabs and everybody so they should pull down every one if that's the case It's just real curious and I don't want to get all conspiratorial But like it is curious that these people are entrenched in the upper echelon of power And a video is going super viral on facebook That literally exposes only the factual things we know about them Right. I only went off back. I didn't go off conspirator conspiracy or anything I just showed the facts that we know about them and the people that enabled them and the facts We know about the people that enabled them and then she gets taken down from facebook Isn't that curious, bro? Well, you're fucking up there game think about it, right? I never even heard of this woman I never even heard of this woman until she got arrested, right? So Okay, okay, we got to do our due diligence and make it a media story. Boom So it goes out there becomes a thing now We got to wait for this story to die down before we kill it, right? And so then you do this video and put it out and it gets a million views They're trying to not they're trying to make people forget about her so they could kill her ass So whenever whatever they do with her happens, right? Everybody's just like Oh, yeah, and then they go back to what they regularly schedule programming, right? That's that's what I think you're bringing attention. You're making it hot. You're making the block hot shows I'm saying that's what I'm saying. It's fucked up Then it could potentially work like that and that's how these motherfuckers get off It pissed me off that if you take it down Off of a bullying technicality. Come on, bro Yeah, I am um I am sick of you could show murder videos on facebook you show shootings on facebook like how many horrible things have we seen on facebook They got white supremacist group. They got facebook pages and I can't make fun of pedophiles on facebook Yeah, and and that's that if there's one group of people that should be shamed. Shit It's pedophiles. Come on, bro Like I could are we really gonna be out here practicing tolerance for pedophiles? Come on. That's what you want to die on That's the hell you want to die on zuckerberg Like come on, man. Yes, it's it's yeah, I don't I don't understand it. I really don't um, I saw something that was positively, uh Brilliant this week. What'd you say? I thought the way jill scott handled, um, kyle quero Uh, who plays he used to play for the practice squad for the dallas cowboys But now he plays for the xx what is no xfl no more, but he played for the seattle dragons He got on twitter, right? And he did something that I don't understand why people do I really don't I really don't Everything doesn't need your opinion Okay, remember remember what we used to have this saying like, uh talking out loud Are thinking out loud thinking out loud. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking out loud So it would it would be things that you would think talking out loud is how you talk You're just Exactly talking out loud is exactly what you're supposed to do Are you supposed to talk out loud when you when you when you when you think out loud thinking out loud is dangerous But and I don't understand he got on twitter. Uh, and he asked this question. He said, uh I can't find it. What the hell is the tweet tailor? Basically he asked. He said do people find Jill scott sexy Like really do people find jill scott sexy, right? What is why Yeah, like I like I just want to know how do you think that's going to go your way Right, like when I see people do stuff like that. I think to myself. They want the attention They they they want the smoke They they they want to rile people up today. So when you see stuff like that, you even have to ask yourself Should I even give this any energy? No Because that's what they want. Yes. That's what they're feeding into. Yes And so he posted that oh, yeah, people he said people are attracted to jill scott and by no means is she ugly but y'all really sexually aroused by her And um jill after everybody came to her defense. She did she waited for like a day or two And she was trending everybody came to her defense. She tweeted wait I was trending again. Okay, then justice for brianna taylor justice for sandra bland justice for ola Watoin salu loving ourselves and each other is respectful and uplifting supportive eyes on the prize love village eyes on the prize The reason I love that right? It's because when you're a public servant and you're really here to serve the needs of the public And you don't have an ego and you're not leading with ego and you're not not trying to make things about you right even though she could have came out and said something about kyle and like You know really like I can't believe people come at me like this Whatever she could have really played that role and really got more sympathy. She made it about what was important, right? You know what i'm saying? Yeah, she didn't yeah, she didn't make about herself She wasn't thinking about herself. She realized that shit's not important that shit that he's talking about over there That shit wasn't important at all. No need to give that any energy. I'm not going to be a distraction Even though y'all have allowed This to be a distraction. I'm not I'm not going to be a distraction I'm gonna put y'all back focused on what y'all need to be focused on that's why she said eyes on the prize She said it twice eyes on the prize love village eyes on the prize Andrew we have a problem with keeping our fucking eyes on the prize in this era. Yeah, you're right That's actually a great point. We're so easily distracted. It's almost like the way the culture works You know by the culture i'm talking about culture not black culture specifically But like it's almost how we operate like what are we distracted with today? What are we distracted with tomorrow? What's the new news story? Who's the new person we're canceling? It's just this constant distraction matrix You know, you know, why why is that? Because majority of people don't even know what the fucking prize is Majority of people are wildly coyote chasing the goddamn road runner. What is the prize? That's my point. That's why I said most people don't right now What would your prize be? I mean for me as a black person, my prize would be the changing of legislation. My prize would be uh reparations, right? And when I say reparations, I mean some type of economic equity package for black people My my my my prize is America really, you know, having a sense of atonement and saying, you know what? We recognize that Slavery was wrong and a lot of things that are happening in the black community right now are because of the systemic You know a systemic oppression a systemic marginalization that we we caused this community So we want to make this right and this how we're going to make it right through this economic equity package You know, we're going to start making investments into the black community, you know, we're going to Change laws to change the way that we police. I don't think that they should they should change laws Change the way that they police they just need to hire new police. I don't I don't think you can reform I really don't I honestly truly don't think you can reform Police officers as they currently exist. I think it's like trying to reform a pitbull That's interesting. You know, I've changed my tune on reparations Talk to me I um I understand the argument for reparations And I think that there's a really good argument for reparations, but I don't think it's based on slavery Okay, talk to me. I think that while American slavery is different and every different country's slavery was obviously different There's no way to have like the same level of slavery in every different place, but while America's Uh slavery was absolutely horrendous and different Slavery is not unique if we go back in history every group of people Will have been enslaved by another group of people, right? So I don't think because you were enslaved during a time Where everybody else was also enslaved That it means that there should be reparations for that enslavement because then as a Scottish person Do I go back to England and do some English people go back to whoever enslaved them and do some Viking culture go back to another Viking culture and go we want our reparations It's just it's endless. It just keeps on going on and on and on I will say though that The treatment within Jim Crow redlining Not giving out loans for bank bank loans for Black people to build the equity that White people benefit from in the real estate market alone Specific legislation that didn't allow allegedly I need to look into this a little bit more But didn't allow white people to resell their house to black families like yeah all that The destruction of like black wall street and I again, I need to look into more of these things but like to me those Are the best arguments for Atonement via some sort of reparations because they show not Not specifically slavery, but they show a Direct force a systemic force from a government to hold down a group of people from the American dream Right You know i'm saying Yeah, but that's that's that's that's what that's what slavery was too. It's all systemic racism It was it all all the slaves were brought here. They weren't brought here was kept updated Right, exactly. They updated in different ways. I guess I guess what i'm trying to say is that like if if slavery is the Is the end all be all for why a group of people should use should get reparations I think the reason why it's used is because oh, it's not though. Oh, no, I know it's not I know it's not I guess I guess what i'm saying is like when i've looked back into other groups that have gotten reparations like I think Post-holocaust jews. I think japanese people and in the internment camps. They got reparations, right? There weren't internment camps going around the world Right, they got a specific unique treatment during a time where that wasn't happening when blacks were slaves in america They were also slaves in africa. They were slaves in brazil There were slaves in all these different parts of the world Yeah, but I think somebody I think people would say, um, you know, the blacks here in america Are the reason that america is america Because the fact that you had all of those years of free labor america was able to build an industry It was able to build a capitalist society that everybody benefited from except for the people Who actually were out there doing the work? Definitely a massive part of it. It's definitely a massive massive part of it Um undeniable I think there are a lot of different things that ended up building america and a lot of like, um You know global events that are happening to turn america into a superpower, you know Do you know how much money you would save if alex worked for you for free? Hold on. Do you know how much money you would save shows if alex worked for you? You're not you're not fast. Would you say alex? He said don't give no idea Hold on. Did alex just yell let me free Did he say let me free? Yo, but so here's here's the thing here's the thing, right? Let's say let's say uh This is this is interesting. So al works for me. Obviously he gets paid. Everything's great Let's say one day al goes yo, I want to go out on my own, right? And let's say after going out on his own. I do certain things. I I spoil his name in the industry I'm telling people they're about to hire him. Don't hire him. I'm doing all these things to hold him down If al wants to sue me for money Because of that treatment. He should sue my ass for money and he should be paid for that shit Not only can he sue you for what he's old He can sue you for his future Uh compensation because you shit it on his name Yeah, you tell you telling everybody he ain't shit whatever whatever you might have trust me I've been in that position people have cost me uh future monies. Yeah, you know, I'm saying By by by by shitting on my name and painting painting a picture of me slander Or I think they call it a liable or something like that. Yeah liable liable all of that You know me so yes, but do you understand you understand what I'm saying? Like I think that I think that a lot of times like if I think if white people really understood Because I think a lot of white people are just super ignorant to the black experience in america post slavery I don't think there's any white people that are gonna go well slavery wasn't that bad All white people know is that bad and then they they think that once slavery ended It was like clean slate black people you got the same ability as white people They think that because so it in my opinion if the conversation shifted from reparations For slavery to reparations for the treatment of jim crow redlining all these things and we started educating white people on the systemic oppression Specifically financial systemic oppression of black people have went through I really wonder if their eyes would start to open and go. Oh, shit. They were literally stopped from building wealth They were stopped You just said first of all, does that make sense? Am I making sense? It makes all the sense in the world. All right, and um That that conversation is a conversation that that everybody who Black people have this conversation and white people are listening to black people have this But I wonder if the average white person even knows No, I don't think they know but uh everything you're saying that is the conversation when it comes to reparations It's not just slavery. It is jim crow segregation It is the legislation that was put in place to systemically oppress people. It is redlining. It's all of those different things It's the war on drugs It's all of those different things that go into why black people should have you know some compensation It's really just simple. It's a simple concept America systemically did something to black people to put us in the position Specifically financially, right? Yes. Yes. Yes financially. Yes, and if you financially oppress you should atone for the financial It's just that simple, right? And I make me systemically do something to get us out I truly really believe and I know that their black people listen to this right now They're like, how could they not be aware of this? I truly believe that there are a lot of white people that have no Clue what redlining is That they have no clue what just like not giving black people bank loans are Right. There was this interesting video that's going around. I have to check the legitimacy of it But it seemed pretty good where uh in order to basically build out the suburbs and build 5 000 unit homes and stuff like that Uh or communities You needed government back loans and the only way to get those government back loans Was if the developers agreed not to sell the house to black families And then the people who bought it agreed not to resell it to black families So now you have this situation where you could buy a house for cheap I think it was the equivalent of a hundred thousand dollars now is maybe ten thousand dollars back in the day and That middle class family which black people were middle class back then would have been able to purchase property And now that house is worth four hundred thousand dollars. That's three hundred thousand dollars in equity You get to pass down to your kids. You know what I mean? That changes shits Over generations You should read a book called the color of law. I ain't reading that shit It explains all of that stuff In a very good way But also, I mean how many people I mean, I guess maybe they do because they might have saw the 13th documentary on netflix But you think about the 13th amendment 13th. I haven't seen the 13th yet, but you're familiar with the 13th amendment Right, which is it is the uh, you don't have to pay people for No, no, no it ban slavery and involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime Right, right, right, right. So you can provide it provided a legal basis for slavery to continue in the country because think about it Andrew. Yes If I let you go, I let you free But I don't give you anything. Yo, I don't give you any means to make any money. Yeah, what do you think you're going to do? What do you think a human is going to go do? So so here's the thing I've been thinking about that because I haven't seen the documentary but someone explains me the point in it, right I've been thinking about how you make the argument to Like uh, let's say like uh, uh, real america people like constitutionalist america people, right Because there might be constitutionalist america people go well white people go to jail too And they end up doing free work as well. You know, so this affects both people Obviously, there's more black people per capita in jail. It's we don't even have to get into the argument But this is what I would say It's unfair business practices if you're a constitutional american, right And you believe in a country and you believe in fair business practices How are you going to let this prison that has free labor Compete with this regular construction company that got to pay minimum wage. That's unfair to the mom and pop construction company, isn't it Go ahead show see let me hear some more. I like this I'm just say if I'm a like this if I'm a mom and pop construction company this white owned black owned Mexican owned doesn't matter what it is. I got to compete with slave wages. It's impossible for me to compete So now you are punishing me as a business owner. We got to cut that out So you're saying these corporations, uh, even these mom and pop stores should be absolutely against The prison system as is currently because it protects your own business If these prisoners are out there making license plates and you're a license plate maker and you got to pay your people $15 now They got to pay them zero dollars an hour. Who do you think they get the contract from the state? I agree wholeheartedly I agree wholeheartedly. What do you think of um, what do you think of abolitionist? I want to I want to talk to I haven't I haven't spoken to an abolitionist But I would love to talk to an abolitionist. What do you what do you think of of abolitionist? Are you familiar with that abolitionist movement? Yeah, like the Mark Twain's of the world and the harry beecher stows and these people who Like I guess maybe saw the evils of slavery prior to You know a lot of uh white people at the time. Is that what you're talking about? No, I think I mean No, you're yeah, you're right. But I think now it's about um Oh like abolish the police Yeah, they don't believe in jails Oh abolish jail prison prison abolition. That's what it is. Oh, I thought you were talking about like back in the day like Yeah, no, no, I it's a prison abolition movement and they're a network of groups and activists that Want to uh reduce or eliminate prisons and the prison system and replace them with systems of rehabilitation That that don't place the focus on punishment and government institutionalization I think uh in theory. It's great. I think that there are certain people I think need to be on world star island. Yeah, yeah, bro Like or or certain people just kill like if you're like a Pedophile, just you know what I mean? Like you just kill them if you're a rapist Just kill them like all that kind of shit. You could just kill. I'm okay. We'll see the problem with that is Uh, what about false convictions for it? Yeah. Yeah, 100% you know what I'm saying? What about um, no, you're right. It creates a Yes, treat your situation and and I don't want nobody to take this the wrong way even though I know y'all will Can the pedophile be rehabilitated? I don't know. I don't think they can that's the thing so even yeah, and uh Yeah, that's the thing that's that's why I don't have that much But again, you're right. There could be false convictions And you know, you could have some one of there's always these stories where like a a kid is in high school Has a girlfriend high school. She's 17. He's 18. He turns 19 now. He's looking up with a girl that's under Under 18, you know what I mean? So they're like, oh blah blah blah you have to register the sex vendor There's that the other it gets it's look it's tricky. I don't understand I was just like killing people isn't the right situation But I do feel like jails are important. I feel like we can improve our jails But I love you know, I love the yeah, I love the idea of and I've said I've been saying this for years I love the idea of jails being more of a rehabilitation center, you know, I mean when we talk about you know, uh Correct they call it correctional facilities, right? But it's like, what are you really correcting? Like if you're going to take this person and you know, put them away for 10 years 15 years when they go back in society, right? Wouldn't you want them to be an upstanding citizen? You know what I'm saying? Like that's that's one of the beauties of the nation of Islam, right? The nation of Islam can take these convicted felons the worst of our society and transform them into These these these upstanding honorable human beings, right? Like wouldn't you want that for everybody who goes to prison? Wouldn't you want to give them some form of education? Wouldn't you want to give them some form of job training? So, you know when they go out into the world when they get back into the world They're a totally different person and they have acquired a skill set that where they can actually go get a job And make some make some make some legal money and not go back to the streets Like I I love the idea of it being a correctional facility or a real rehabilitation center really reforms people Yeah, I like the idea of reform. I can't speak to the nation of Islam because I don't know anything about it And how they reform I'm just speaking of You know the story of Malcolm Little to Malcolm X. Yes, of course, absolutely amazing story Yeah, you know the story of Cassius Clay to Muhammad Ali like you, you know You saw the evolution in these men. You saw the change in these men the growth in these men That's just the NOIs them. Oh, that's what that's one of the that's why I love You know what the nation of Islam, you know has stood for so much historically over the years because the teachings of the honorable Elijah Muhammad I've seen them Change In a weird way, that's that's how I view America Like I know there's times that where like, you know, July 4th has happened and people weren't celebrating America they didn't feel comfortable celebrating America, but like I look at America as the transition of You know Malcolm Little to Malcolm X You know, I mean it's Built on these things that were fucked up and treatment that was horrible and deplorable And things that you don't stand for but my hope and from what I see is continual progress And continual progress based On these ideals that we're trying to live up to or at least a lot of us are trying to live up to and a lot of us Believe in and these ideas of equality and these ideas of Freedom freedom and liberty liberty for all, you know freedom of speech and the freedom of Expression and these types of things. So like when I look at it And I see where we're going and obviously it's easier for me because I'm not the one that's Being oppressed by a lot of this shit. But like when I see it, I'm like, okay We're moving in the right direction. So I'm here to celebrate that I'm here to wave the flag and I'm here to go Yeah, see we're gonna get there. Maybe not my generation. Maybe my kids But we're gonna get to the place where we want to fucking be and that's something I could celebrate as long as we're Progressing does that make sense? That makes perfect sensing. I mean you said something earlier that I think um That I think will help us get there But but we have to all be willing To be open-minded enough and keep our ears open enough to sit down listen and learn you said that you are not aware You don't think it's a lot of white people that are aware of certain things I feel like that I feel like that with every culture Because we're all in our own little individual bubbles whether we want to admit it or not Like, you know, I have my experience as a black man in america You have your experience as a white man in america I'm from I'm from the south southeastern line and you have your experience as a white man in america from new york city Yeah, but then there's there's literally an asian-american living in manhattan Which you that's having a total different experience than you are right and I mean literally y'all might live in the same building Y'all might live a block away from you. I might go to the same school everything But your experience With that with that person is your experience in this country is totally different than that person's experience in this country Right, and it's just and I think that we don't always Do a good enough job of sitting down and and explaining What's going on in our You know respected communities. I think that we all just assume This person doesn't know and they're playing dumb Low-key, you know I'm saying or this person this person knows But he'll never admit it because of the privilege and the power That they have and they benefit from so they'll play clueless. You know what I'm saying don't underestimate someone's ignorance Exactly It's shocking how little we really know about each other man two things about ignorant shows What was that two things um what you don't know, right? Could be considered ignorant until you learn. Yeah, what you what you think you know is also ignorant about somebody is what's really ignorant, right? so That's let's let's go into the deep But now do real quick before we get in there and I think this will set us up as well. Okay. It's like in a way I think that We are less Understanding than we used to be Because back in the day, right? Let's say i'm a white guy, right? But my favorite show Is martin And they got some like white jokes and martin I got to put up with the white jokes because I love the show and I love the characters and martin so fun So I just put up with some white jokes because of this thing and there's only five shows on tv back in the day Anyway, so this is my favorite one So I put up with it and there's a gay guy that got to put up with some gay jokes And there's a black dude that's got to put up with some black jokes and some other show We had to put up with ideas or feelings or beliefs There were a little different than ours because we were forced to fit into this thing, right? Especially the entertainment now We got a different tv channel. There's so much representation that we don't got to put up with nothing That's not exactly how we feel so there's a there's a different tv channel for every different group and then outside tv channels There's a different facebook feed. There's a different instagram feed. There's different youtube channel If you want to be only black trans muslims You could be that and your community can be based on that and that's it And if you want to be asian women They like hello kitty and that's it that can be your community and that's it and you don't have to tolerate Nothing outside of that community if you don't want to so in a way I feel like we're less tolerant because we have the ability to not Does that make sense? I like what you're saying. Um, I do think that uh back in the day the tv and the movies and The magazines it did kind of fuck us up too And the reason they fucked us up is because it's one thing to Get a image of a person, right? The stereotypes of a person are the caricature of a person whether it's a white person black person gay person You know trans person a jewish person whatever italian person. We all saw these Characters yep of these people on tv. So that makes us assume. Yep. We know Who in what these people are you're right and and look Since back in the day you're trying to appeal to everyone When when you try to appeal to everybody, what do you do? You appeal to no one Almost right. So it's like if i'm trying to appeal to black asian white I'm gonna water down everything to the most common denominator So none of them are going to be like truly unique and nuanced characters It probably wasn't to like shows started popping up on I mean, maybe you saw different versions of it But like i'm trying to think of like, you know shows started popping up on hbo, right? Like the wire where it was like this really nuanced look into like a specific group You know and then you saw like sopranos and these different things even like sex in the city was like a nuanced look into like Aging single white ladies You know so like and then all of a sudden those jokes reflected that specific community You know and I think you saw a lot of this starts to pop up afterwards But I think prior to that everybody was a stereotype like if you everybody was just stereotype weren't they like back in the day like I think but to be honest with you. I think we're just getting out of that You say back in the day. I think we're just getting out of that Like now you're seeing nuanced black characters on tv or now you're seeing nuanced gay characters or something like that You know what that's that no, that's so interesting because think about it when I grew up in the 80s all I saw was What what I would call now positive black characters But back then I didn't look at them as positive black characters They were just black people when I watch good times. I know though I know them when I watch the jefferson's I know them when I watch martin I know them when I watch fresh prince. I know them when I watch living single I know them like all of these different black people were represented I know black people from the ghetto in the hood. I know educated black people I know black people who are well off like I might that was a That showed me that my people weren't monolithic and I knew all of these different variations Of black people. I didn't have that experience with everybody else though You know why because majority of my life you were watching round my own people Yeah, so everything else I saw but whether it was how when you're white you you do the white voice You know white people having small penises and black guys having big penises regular penises regular penises not small It was regular. It's regular No, it's regular It was a thing when a white guy had a big penis like that was like. Oh, that's a new character I've never seen that. I've never seen I've never seen that in a movie before or a tv show You know, but and and not only not only uh The people The experiences. Yeah. Yeah, right and and now that I'm older when I think back on a lot of those shows Whether it was the Cosby show different world Girlfriends whatever it was I have lived At least all of those experiences in the team in in a tv show because they were real life experiences Right. I don't I don't know if that was the same for you What the stuff you was watching I'm trying to think like I'm really trying to Trying to think like to be honest. I can't I can't tell you what it's like to be Martin I can't tell you what to be like a middle-aged black dude, you know with a career and whatever he was doing radio or some shit, right like What's up? WCUP baby I can't tell you what that's like, you know what I'm saying Like I don't know so for me it seemed like the most normal thing I know this sounds really weird, but when I was a kid watching martin It wasn't a black show to me. I I get exact. I know exactly Bro, isn't that saying weird, but I never watched married with children and said this is a white show I never did Al Bundy was just a loser. Yeah, I understood I understood the Al Bundy's of the world because even at whatever age I was There was always that washed up dude who was a star football player in high school Who somebody was pointing out my daddy would point him like oh, he look at him He used to be a star while receiving now. He just watched it like we all knew these people So I knew the character of Al Bundy. I knew that curmudgeon So so then I'm curious like when did I see my first black show or when did I see my first like black? Movie when did I see something that I was like? Oh, this is specifically black not a show that has black people in it Well, let me think about that on my end. What was the first show I saw that So Al Al just said empire, but I think it was before that I think it was movies like I think I I think I know that was Fuck out. No, but like I'm saying like okay I remember there were movies where I kept seeing the same black actors in them like Morris chestnut with being them And I think then I started realizing. Oh, shit. There's like specifically black Films that are targeted to a black audience that are reusing the same black Hollywood actors Yeah, I hate how you say and then I and then I went will smith is not part of that Denzel's not part of I was like Oh, there's a different It's because will And Denzel Took roles that were just big broad bold stories And and and by the way, there's nothing wrong with are you frozen? No, I'm here. I'm just I'm just I'm like By the way, the stuff you're talking about yeah, a lot of that stuff was was was niche niche. Yeah. Nice. Fuck. Am I trying to say? Yeah, yeah, I'm not don't you say it because it might come out wrong. Yeah talking about What's it what what what you're talking about is niche stuff like stuff that is specifically black Yes, and and for us by us. Yes. Guess what that's fine I think everybody should have that I really do. I think that one of the problems that we're having now Is what you said earlier everybody's trying to cater to everybody so you're technically not catering to nobody We're all missing each other. Yeah all missing each other Like I don't think it's anything wrong with having a country music television station There shouldn't be if people like country music watch it And if that station is 95 white because that's what country is fine But when country starts to reflect the hoodie and the blowfishes and the little Nas X Give them they love same thing with hip-hop if hip-hop is a black genre And you know, we're over here with it fine But when other people start embracing it and they decide hey, I want to rap to uh, I want to dress like this Let them rock out. Yeah, you know, I mean it's fine, but it has nothing wrong with saying Okay, that's country. There's nothing wrong with saying. Oh, that's that's hip-hop. There's nothing wrong with saying Oh, that's white. Even though I don't even know what White is right. What would be white? Culturally what's white? Yeah I don't know. I this is I don't even know anymore I don't have an audience Is it safe? Is it safe to say larry bird is a white basketball player? Yeah. Yeah larry bird put basketball. I would Yeah, but basketball isn't exactly the whitest thing But yeah, I hear you. Yeah. No. Yeah, basketball don't count either because basketball is all about skillset We don't chalk shit up to like white, but there are some white things like whitewater rafting is pretty white Canoing is white golf is white tennis is pretty white It's canoeing white First people I saw in a canoe in Native American bro, it might be Native American That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. My first images of a canoe was definitely uh Indigenous people. Yeah Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right But you know, I do want to talk about um I want to talk about nick cannon because I think this all goes into the conversation I don't think we we don't have to rehash exactly what happened this week, right? Like I think people know what's going on I think I mean, but I mean very quickly we could just say that uh, You know, he was fired from uh, mtv is cbs for making cbs viecom Sorry, sorry cbs viecom for making uh anti-semitic statements. Um, not for the racist statements Just the anti-semitic ones Well, you know, it's really funny Here's the thing about the here's the thing about the the racist statements, right? Yeah, I will I will never chalk up um First of all, I don't think people are inherently evil Black people white people. I don't think nobody is born inherently even you can't believe in god I didn't believe people are born evil. No, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I don't believe somebody's lack of melanin Makes them less any more evil any more savage now if you want to have a conversation about You know the massive racial violence That that white people have have have done in america That's a that's that's definitely a conversation So here's where nick fucked up and it's it's really because nick is regurgitating talking points and not synthesizing his own ideas Right off to me. I agree with you and and so he so he's regurgitating talking points I forget the the name of the woman who wrote the book francis clearly west or something like that. I think Uh, the icis papers. I think is the name of the book but like She makes a lot of crazy statements in it Using like pseudoscience one being that like white people invented the homosexuality in the black community to keep the numbers down And like a lot of just other like nonsense shit, right a bunch of stuff. You can't prove a bunch of and One of the things nick said is that because Uh, white people are deficient of melanin It forced them to leave africa and live in these harsh environments And the harsh environments and the fact that they weren't built because they they were as he says less than They created them or made them be savages may white people become savages and then they did all this savage shit, right? So it's pseudoscience used to justify something and here's why it's fucked up And I got to credit my boy Robbie for saying this he put a something really interesting on here. He goes If he was to just say if nick came was just to say hey listen for years white people Have called black people savages But that's weird because White people have a history of mass racial violence in this country or not even this country or colonization in the world Colonization in the world. So whether you want to call it savagery murder, whatever you want to call it It's accurate to say that said that that they have a history of that exactly. So if he said who you calling savage Right, like if if if if he said why would you call us savages? When the most savage action is colonizing and you know, after these people I don't think he'd get any pushback From anyone, you know why think about it. Me and you are agreeing right now, right? We can agree that White people have had a history of mass racial violence on this planet, right? But if I say and it's because y'all lack melanin Exactly, if you try are we arguing about some stupid if you try to add science that is not supported by anything Then you get into this eugenics discussion where Certain people are actually built better than or made better than based on the dna that they have and that is The definition of racism That's the definition of like hitler ideology like that's where shit gets bad and the reason black people Were labeled three-fifths of a human being in the constitution because of this skin And because that's not accurate the southern southern people need some votes Exactly, but I'm just I'm just simply saying you can't look at me just because of the color of my skin and say They I'm less than a person just like I can't look at you and just assume. Okay. They're a savage All right, right. So that's that's that's where that conversation got messed up at but I think um But that's what happens when you're not thinking for yourself And that's what happens when you're just spewing the shit that you read And that's really on nick he got to be accountable for that if you're gonna if you're gonna read some wild shit like that You have to be aware of what you're reading and aware of what you're regurgitating and this is a problem when you exist in your echo chamber Like if you're not talking to anybody that doesn't push back I mean people might be annoyed when we argue on this show, but it's good. It's healthy I'll learn some shit. You'll learn some shit. We'll have our ideas bounce off each other and they just get sharper Yep, you know what I mean? What do they say like iron sharpens iron or something like that? Yep, but he's still sharp and still they're still sharp So he's out there with a dull blade because he got nobody pushing back And then the finally for the time you get pushed back It's when you say it to the fucking world you lose your show And that's why I said if you're going to engage in those conversations and not even just with jewish people if you're going to engage in conversations Uh about the lgbt community the black community You know the asian community How about talk to somebody from that community? Like if you're going to have that conversation about Jewish people talk to a Jewish scholar Talk to somebody from that community who can correct you when you say something That's anti-Semitic who can correct you when you say something that that could be offensive, you know what I'm saying and and and and like once again I can't win that argument. I can't tell you that you're savage just because You lack melanin, right? Okay, but we can't have a conversation about the fact that racial violence has been a distinct part of this country since 60 16 60 The fact and nobody would deny that though. You can't you can't deny it You can you can name a million different things that have happened not even just the black people Even the most racist white person would agree and they'd probably be like, yeah, we did that But they agree Oh, let's go back to something you said shows go If they know Ah, yes. Yes. Yes. They might not know. Well, you think I'm not even joking They might not even know girls with a good old days. They they'd probably be celebrating those days The ones that know I like, you know When they're back You said you said you said you sitting there talking about 3446 black people getting lynched in America from 1882 to 1968 and they they dick hard They celebrate june 18th It's wild though, right because like I talked to um I talked to like eight of my jewish homies yesterday, right? But oh oh real quick just to clarify They didn't that's not why nick got fired. Nick didn't get fired for the savage comment He got fired for the for the the anti-semitic comment and and A lot of people I think Are just so unaware of like jewish culture jewish history that they don't even know Why the comment he said was anti-semitic. I listen. I had no idea I just I just know that I can't tell a jewish person What is anti-semitic just like nobody can tell me What racism is just like nobody can tell a woman what sexism is just like nobody can tell a gay person What homophobia is when I heard it and all I saw the jewish community in the outrage I said well, he he must have said something, right, you know I'm saying even if I'm not a even if I don't know exactly what he said Because I honestly truly did not know what the hell he was talking about Even if I didn't know what they said, I knew it had to be something. So you know what you do in those situations You listen. Yeah We have a jewish person who's a producer this show Right chris morrow. We let him talk last time and uh didn't go so well. So we shut him up I think he's a little I think he's a little sharper chris Yeah, yeah, can you hear me? I'm here to help Tell us tell us why what nikah and it said was with anti-semitic as a jewish Chris Can you just clarify what he said first and then then do the uh, tell us why? Well, I think you're referring to his comments about the ross childs and a shadow Secret jewish banking system. I'm assuming that's the part we're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, and the fake dollar and those things Yeah, I actually didn't understand the fake dollar Comment to be honest, but it all ties into a larger conspiracy theory that uh, you know, basically claims that for hundreds and hundreds of the years jews have secretly been controlling financial institutions around the world and Pulling strings making wars happen and basically responsible. It's it's a scapegoating theory It's scapegoats a lot of the economic issues that plague countries specifically in europe and blames that on the jews and The reason it's so dangerous is You know in recent history. I'm talking 60 years ago. It's gone beyond just rhetoric and talk. It's actually been used to fuel the holocaust to fuel genocide, you know the the idea that the jews were behind the destruction of the german economy Post world world one is really what fueled the nazis rise to power the belief that jewish banking families Like the roth childs and other You know similar institutions Were the cause of germany's collapse, uh, you know the term that was used at the time was they had stabbed the germans in the back But the germans would have come out victorious after world war one and are in much better shape But the jews somehow From behind the scenes prevented that That was really what gave The nazis their initial momentum and brought them into power and we know how that played out So when jews today hear you talking about secret banking systems and the roth childs That's what it brings up that history. That's it. It's a trigger. It's a it opens up a room that hasn't that That probably will never truly heal and it's and and it's important to know and i'm not and i'm curious to see if You were raised like this chris, but like a lot of my jewish friends were raised from a very young age To never forget what happened at the uh, you know in the holocaust, but also the events that led up to it So anytime there is an event that is even close A sentiment that exists that's even close to what led to the holocaust like Saying the jews control the banks or that kind of stuff This is this dog whistle that goes off and a lot of jews brains where they're like, uh, oh, this is how it starts We got an interest in a bud now. That's what that's what you should do, right? That's how you prevent history from repeating this though. I think it's written. Yeah, i mean was that you agree every uh pass over you read a book called a hagata which tells the uh story of the jews exodus in egypt and getting out of slavery in egypt right and you know I read that every year from a kid up until this year And you know every hagata is a little bit different But mine always ended kind of with the refrain never again Those are the two words that you hear over and over again as a jew never again Never again. So when you hear Talk about Secret jewish banking systems. Yeah, I don't even think it's a dog whistle. I mean, I think it's pretty upfront We're gonna shut that down right now because unfortunately We know where that can go and it can escalate very quickly and a thing to clarify which is very important Nobody or no system is above criticism For example, like the Rothschilds and the role that they they specifically that family specifically have played in like global banking They're not above criticism and simply criticizing the family is in no way anti-semitic But oftentimes the people that are anti-semitic are using Their role in global banking as a justification for their anti-semitism In the same way it gets it gets inflated right in the same way that like People who do not care about black people at all use black on black crime as a retort to black lives matter Black lives matter, right? Like like all those white people talking about black on black crime They were never doing anything for black on black crime before black lives matter and they won't do anything after black lives matter They're simply doing it as another way of going shut up right and the fact is There are plenty of powerful banking families historically in present day across the world. I mean, I don't think chase bank I could be wrong. I don't believe that's run by jews. There are plenty of banks that wield tremendous power and that you know, they should be scrutinized and probably in a lot of situations criticized But those aren't the ones you hear about you hear about the Rothschilds the Rothschilds the Rothschilds So when you hear about the Rothschilds in this setting, yeah, it it is a trigger essentially So I can talk so I totally understand and you know, um, I talked to like Eight of my jewish jewish peoples yesterday. Chris was one of them and every single one of them explained to me Why what nick said was anti-semitic, you know and in different variations of the same way And it basically was you know, it took to the root of it is those were just like the two Talking points that were used that have been used to persecute jewish people for years. So, you know, yeah The other thing was the the semi Uh, uh, they said like black people the original semitic people I'ma tell you something. Yeah, can I admit something right there? Yeah, go I have no idea what semitic means Bro, I'm talking about zero. I matter of fact. I'm gonna look it up right now. I have you I had to learn last night I called my boy dove you met dove and uh And I was like explain what was going on in here and he's like it's a semantic argument, right So semi or the semitic people refers to the people that speak semitic languages. I believe that's hebrew aramaic These are any like the old biblical languages. Is that that right, chris? Right, it would basically refer To the peoples of like, I think you call it the leaven, you know, it would be modern day lebanon jordan Israel Palestine That area right so, but here's the thing um And so here's the thing so the people from that region are the semitic people now I think that he was saying that the I believe that he was He was saying ashkenazi jews were not the semitic people because they're not originally Allegedly from that region Right, I think nick was alluding to that. Oh, okay. Okay, right So he was like they're trying to be semitic like us But I think that they would give pushback and say hey The original semitic people were not black or white They were arab looking because that's where It started so and in the dictionary says semitic relating to our denoting a family of languages that include hebrew arabic aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and akkadian Constituting the main subgroup of the afro asiatic family, right? Right. I don't I'm so just the regions that spoke that I don't know any of that language I don't know and to be fair those languages were spoken all the way down to ethiopia because I believe one of the Guys from the 12 tribes went down to ethiopia and that's why they're ethiopian jews Right, you know, so it's not to say that there aren't but to say that the original semitic people were black people I would say the original Semitic people were arab looking Man, I don't know about any of this right all I know is you can't tell someone what should and shouldn't offend them Okay, right so so nick cannon has apologized And this and and this apology was it seemed let me let me read some of it. I mean he went in you're talking about the twitter one Yeah, the one on twitter. Did you send me that tell him? I know I had it in here Where is Did you put uh, oh yeah, I got it. Okay. He says first and foremost I extend my deepest and most sincere apologies to my jewish sisters and brothers With a hurtful and divisive words that came out of my mouth during my interview with richard griffin Didn't even call him professor. He said richard griffin. All right. Is he an actual professor? Does anybody know Uh, they they reinforce the worst stereotypes of a proud and magnificent people and I feel ashamed of the uninformed and naive Place that these words came from Video of this interview has since been removed By the jewish experience and Encompasses more than five thousand years and there is so much I have yet to learn I have had at least a minor history lesson over the past few days And to say that it is eye opening would be a vast understatement I want to express my gratitude to the rabbis community leaders and institutions who reached out to me to help enlighten me Instead of chastising me. I want to assure my jewish friends new and old that this is only the beginning of my education I am committed to deeper connections more profound learning and strengthening the bond between our two coaches today And every day going forward. I'ma tell you why I don't have Any problems with nick cannon apologizing because I see people giving them backlash for that If nick learned what I learned yesterday Or if you listen to what chris just said who's jewish and chris is telling you Why what he said was anti-semitic and and if nick learned You know that what he said was offensive if his intent was to not offend Apologize there we go. What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong with that? And and i'm gonna tell you something else that I read what I read fox's statement To the apology because you know, they're keeping the cannon on the mass singer I love what they say as long as he apologized fox said He is clear and remorseful that his words were wrong And lacked both understanding and context and inadvertently Key word in the sentence inadvertently promoted hate This was important for us to observe Nick has sincerely apologized and quickly taken steps to educate himself and make amends I I I really think to be honest with you and I think this is where mtv or viacom cbs Whatever really fucked up is that they could have taken this as a learning moment, dude You could like right now the what not too late say what not too late. 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Let's get back to it Like every time we cancel someone for blackface, you know, we don't explain why blackface is wrong We just cancel and then there's all these little kids who know no Fuck who have no clue about why blackface is wrong. They don't know what the samba character is They don't know what black, you know exploitation in the movies is they don't know any of these things They just go I guess blackface is wrong and then they just keep it moving. I agree with you shows Let's be honest. Nobody gets cancelled for blackface It's a pause Some social media outrage. Yeah, I haven't seen anybody get get fired for blackface shit. Um But I do want to say no, what's that girl's name? Megan Kelly she got fired for her opinions on blackface Megan Kelly. Yeah, remember when she had the mbc show something like It was like, uh, she said something like well, what's wrong with blackface is making Kelly the singer That's she's a singer. Megan Kelly. Yeah I don't know but she was that blonde lady that like uh, trump asked if she was on her period I think she had blood coming out of here good blood coming out of there No, I'm thinking a fucking Megan trainer my god Oh Megan Kelly, um, listen, you got the word trainer in your name I don't quite remember that situation. But if you ask the question you should receive an answer Yeah, I'm saying if if somebody says well, what's wrong with blackface Let me tell you what's wrong with blackface. Now after I tell you what's wrong with blackface If you say to me again, well, what's wrong with that? Yeah Now We got a problem Now it should be a problem because you're not willing to learn. What did we say earlier two types of ignorance? It's what you don't know And it's what you think you know So when you think you know something and you're convinced you know something and you're spewing that information When somebody gives you the correct information If you continue to spew your wrong information now you're just being a problem Yo, I wonder if in the future people Everybody who's gonna be okay with blackface like black black people will be okay with blackface As long as it's not done in a hateful way as long as it's just like imitating a character Nah, I think people should leave it alone No, I know do you say that but I wonder if if in the future will be so detached From the films and tv shows that used it Right like no because I'll be honest with you. I can't name a single film or tv show that used it Can you name a like what was your what was the blackface movie you hated the most? I didn't hate it, but bam booze was all about blackface That's what that's what the movie was about but it was a movie about blackface It wasn't like an actual movie to use blackface Yeah, so I think in that context it'll be fine because the only way A white person could put blackface on right in the future is if they're playing a black role or if they're playing A role of somebody from that time period who used to do blackface for whatever reason So there's really why is there there's no reason for a white person to be playing a black role And this decade I'm talking about like some kid who like really admires a basketball player or fucking president obama Don't do it. There's way to jersey. I know you got that jordan jersey hanging behind you. You can put it on I know who you're rapping. Yeah I don't know it I just wonder in the future of like if people just lose touch with the where it came from man I'm really the only black the only the only colored faces That you can get away with is the incredible hulk and an avatar Okay, everything else Nope, you just can't do it Um, that's not true I think you should be able to do the other races because there's no history of uh Of uh, like other races face. Don't listen to andrew. We just talked about influence and inspiration Well, what? Don't listen to andrew. I will say this though. I will say this there is like asian For sure right because I think it's what is it breakfast at tiffany's Wasn't the good earth all these all these movies where they cast white actors and literally pulled their eyes back Yeah in the long history of that. Wasn't there pink panther or some shit like that too? Wasn't that mom over there? I think that was at least an asian actor The good earth and breakfast at tiffany's are kind of seen as the two most egregious examples of it So I guess you could say if there was somebody doing that then It's so there has been asian face. Oh, shit Don't there's a white face in asian thing. What about indian face? I think you don't do it, bro No, you can't face. I think it's good. No, you can't you sure it's pointless. It's pointless You can't do indian face, bro. Let me ask you a question. Why would you want to? I don't know man. Maybe you got to play a role. You know what I mean? Go cast the native american. There's plenty of indigenous people. I am those indians I mean the other indians like akash indians Go get akash Oh, you mean like, okay. Yeah, go get akash. Go. It's plenty of them out here like no But what about for a halloween costume? Can you go? Can you be a lad in for halloween and bronze your face up? Can you be a lad in? Bronze your face up. No, I've seen people. I've seen people actually get uh I've seen people get backlash for that for doing for that exact costume question. Can you get A spray tan women do that all the time. Can you get a spray tan? What color is it? It's tan. That's brown technically. You're doing brown body It depends if you if you if you brown face Whitefoot if you do if you put on spray tan and then dress like cardi b And then run around and tell everybody You know what I mean, then they're gonna be like wait a minute You're appropriating culture But if you just okay got a spray tan because you want a spray tan, that's not a problem Can you go tanning get really tan and then dress like cardi b and run around and go Is that Doing blackface. Yes, and I'll tell you why but you get tan. That's natural from the summer from the sun That's that melanin Nick was talking about but but but you said she's running around acting like cardi b We had a conversation earlier in this podcast about stereotypes And about how a lot of the images that we saw on television were stereotypes of these people So you're you're pretending to be what you think a Dominican woman like cardi b acts like are you're pretending to be What you think a black person acts like that's that would be true if you were just being a generic Dominican girl or generic black person But if you're specifically Trying to be cardi b. You're just walking around going corona virus corona virus That's not good I don't I just don't see the point of it like and by the way you can get it You probably can get away with it without the tan like just don't do the tan If you want to put on a fashion noble onesie, you know, I mean a fashion over catch suit and pretend to be cardi b are Are a mimic the spirit of cardi b rock out. That's the thing, bro Don't do the spray tan, but that not spray tan But that's the thing if if white people if you want to do blackface Bad enough you got to earn it get that fucking skin cancer Go out there and tan the fuck out of yourself. How bad do you want it? Because that's a natural bro That's a natural Hold on back to the back to the conversation. Okay, because because I need to I need to address a few go go. Yeah hit it hit it um Because I I I I made a I talked about this, you know on breakfast club earlier this week And um, they started lumping me in You know with with with nick cannon and you know and and diddy and d wade and all types of other stuff, right? Uh, and I saw candis Owens candis Owens. How are you? That's my uh third cousin on my father's side. Um, she tweeted out yesterday I respect c to god His comment that nick cannon's firing proves jews have the power Is off base. Uh, then she goes then she goes on to say Did the hundreds of white people who have been fired over these past few months For disagreeing with the radical goals of black lives matter prove that we have the power now Chris, I asked you last night Why is me saying? uh jewish Nick cannon being fired proved that jewish people have the power. I mean Why why why why why why was that why is that offending some people? I think it's a similar triggering mechanism in that When jews hear the word power, especially in the context of media or finance There's always been an implication That again, there are these behind the thing scenes things that they control that they control the entire entertainment industry that they control um The entire finance industry and I think that's when you start getting into the same problems you get when you talk about the Rothschild So I don't think that's what you intended. So what I would say is What it's really about is jews do a good job at holding people accountable, right for anti-semitic Opinions, not that they are controlling everything behind the scenes, but when somebody says something publicly They hold that person accountable and we've seen it in the situation I mean that's literally why you have an organization like the adl the anti-deformation league That's literally what they're there to do to stand up and fight back push back against defamation But I think some sorry. Sorry chris. I would also say It makes it easier when you're in a position of power To execute that and I think Andrew a good a good example. That is when rosanne Said that that lady looked like, uh, what does she say she looked like plant of the apes and Isis or something like that remember? Yes, remember. I think it was uh, uh, it was uh Valerie Jarrett. I think Valerie Jarrett, right when she said that She got fired from her own show and I believe the head of abc was a black woman I'm pretty sure that and I think that and think that that goes to show that like when there are people in positions of power They can protect their communities and the world From racism and that is the importance of representation. Is that not wrong and that is exactly What I was talking about is that but is that wrong to say? No, and and and and I just want to go back to you know, kandace You know, I would ask kandace. First of all, what hundreds of white people have been fired But disagreeing with the radical goals of blm. Who who who are these hundreds of white people who have been fired for disagreeing with blm I I haven't seen them. Okay, but but to answer her question Black people don't have Deep power, you know, it's not enough of us as we just said in positions of power to have deep power But I think we built a little bit of power via social media Enough power that we can raise awareness to racism and bigotry You know, but not the power we could have if we own something, you know, and if we were the boss I don't have to ask anybody to fire somebody or demand somebody be fired. I could just do it Right if I don't agree with what they did and I feel like we we all would want that Kind of power right and and as christian said Just like jewish people demand accountability for attacks against their culture. That's something we all should want to emulate Yeah, I don't think it should be a criticism. I think it should be something you aspire to To get to and and so when I was you know, looking on You know, social media yesterday and people were sending me articles because I was really kind of out of the loop. I saw a Washington examiner said that I implied Jewish people control the media And like they posted what nick cannon said and then said I doubled down on what nick said I would simply ask those two journalists. Why are y'all twisting my words? Don't put no stereotypes in my mouth Okay, they both they they both said I implied jewish people control the media Why would you do that? I didn't imply anything. I made a statement and if the word power makes you feel uncomfortable I'll simply repeat what I just said Jewish people demand accountability for attacks against their culture. That's something we should all Want to emulate and I think you qualified it with your statement about bryanna taylor, right? Didn't you say didn't you say like? Nick cannon got nick. Nick. Nick cannon You know, no, you said something about like, yeah, I would like to have the ability We can't even get the cops fire black people can't even get the cops fired who killed killing us for killing us Yeah, and I was like, I think that was the most important as part of that statement that they just kind of skirted over Is that you were using this as an example of something that you would like to have We would love to be in these positions of power where they can't and on social media. It does exist People are afraid of black twitter coming from them They're afraid of pissing off black twitter. Let's let's let's be real. Absolutely. It's been used as a, uh, Sometimes it's been used as a a weapon of a miscalculated weapon, but sometimes been used a weapon of justice You know i'm saying real talk like there's a lot of people I don't think I don't think you have close to the amount of attention is brought in these cases if it wasn't for black twitter Oh a hundred percent, but that's that's the little bit of power That black twitter has and listen that power is going to grow, you know, it's growing It's going to grow from something that's on social media to actually creating some systemic change You're seeing it now you're seeing these organizations Hiring more black people hiring more brown people hiring more indigenous people putting black people in positions of power So organizations and companies don't make these kind of mistakes. Listen. We all have cultural blind spots We all do to act like we don't it's crazy and and to avoid having those cultural blind spots You have people around you that are from that culture and I think yeah go go go No, when I see people when I saw people pushing back on me yesterday, I didn't get mad and say Y'all tripping. This is true. I'm like chris. Why are they upset about this? I thought that was a compliment. Yeah You know, I mean, yeah, I I want I want That type of ability to demand accountability for attacks against my culture Yeah, like that's the whole reason we get crazy on karen's That's the whole reason we get crazy on people who say the n word All willy nilly if you do a random act of racism on your job or in the street It's the reason people are recording you and sending it on social media so people can raise hell So hopefully some accountability can take Place. Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, I'm just like I'm just annoyed at kandace because kandace knows She got some questionable shit in her her past some very questionable anti-asymmetric shit in her past So if I heard a pop off in the mouth is very curious Very curious. She's had some interesting things to say. Has she not are you talking about when um That germany thing where she's literally Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to misquote it. All right Let me let me let me pull it up. So we're accurate. I don't want to believe I don't want to do it other people do to me I can't believe she opened her mouth about this specific topic. That's that is crazy to me With what she said in that what was it? It was like a senate committee hearing or something like that And the republicans sent kandace owns there and then I think ted lu Read something or no played audio of something that she said We should just tell people to google it google kandace owing. I got it right here if you need it And ted lu. I mean listen to be honest with you I don't even want it and the reason I don't want it is because I don't even know what the hell she was talking about You know what I'm saying? Okay. So I don't know. I don't know what she was talking about I just know that she she made a statement last year and she received backlash and people were calling her anti-symmetric um, so I No, I just thought it was strange that you know, she would try to gaslight this situation You know what I mean as a fire and I don't understand why people like mike brecith the washington examiner and emma nullanet news we try to gaslight this this situation like all i'm simply saying is don't put stereotypes in my mouth Because I that wasn't trying to imply anything. I wasn't trying to imply anything. I said What I said, I made I made I made a statement and I will say it over and over I love Let me say this. Let me say this. I love The way jewish people demand accountability For tax against their culture and that's something that we all should want to emulate That's something that we all should want. I don't care if you're a woman I don't care if you're lgbt. I don't care if you're asian american If you are part of any marginalized oppressed community and you feel like people need to be held accountable for anti-symmetric remarks homophobic remarks transphobic remarks racial remarks I am happy that you know You have the ability to to raise awareness to it and get something done about it. I really do And listen and I love I love I love that uh, Nick cannon apologized and I also love that fox is keeping him on the mass singer, you know, um, I just think that You know, I'm just happy. I'm just happy. Nick didn't lose the massing and I also hope cbs via com comes back around Because as you said earlier shows, this is an opportunity to learn man to educate each other, man Bro, I do I I think most black people probably do not have a jewish friend I really believe that I really believe it. I think I have I have several you happen to be an entertainment But I don't even you know, you know what? I don't know if that is a fact because I feel like that I feel like that could be taken out of context But when you were growing up, did you have a jewish friend? I'm gonna be totally honest with you. I I don't know if I did or not exactly I never thought about anybody. I didn't ask I didn't I don't know if I had an italian friend I don't know. I don't know what thomas is. Thomas is my first right white friend. Yeah thomas evans Thomas not do it live right next. I clearly not do it. Yeah Chris chris christ Why do y'all say it so how do y'all know because we know white guy with the name thomas evan in south carolina I'm not comfortable. So I don't like the way y'all are stereotyping chris Is it fair to say that most people not just black people white people most people probably don't have jews in their community I think that's very fair and actually I gotta jump off in a second But I think it gets back to what you're you were saying earlier about redlining, which is You know, I grew up in a jewish world, you know, i'm on the east coast my family is jewish I assume most people know jewish history because it's what I grew up being told and reading and learning about Jews represent probably I don't know the exact figure under two percent of the country Bro, let me tell you some crazy shit when I was growing up and I was in elementary school I thought everybody was jewish and I was The only one that was it was me kwam in a pamphlet and alexis pares But you grew up in new york Exactly, that's how different the world was and then I got into like high school and I started as oh shit There's people who aren't jewish As well and most people aren't jewish. I didn't realize that when I went to college It was the first time I heard anybody say anything that was anti-semitic My boy said something like oh, yeah, they really try to jew you down on the price And I go what and they're like, yeah, they try to jew you down and I asked him about it and no bullshit He didn't even know was wrong to say He just went you know why because that was the image that was this that's the stereotype They used to enforce on movies and tv shows and everything else. Exactly. So it's like so when he said it He didn't even know was wrong because he didn't have any jewish people in his community He didn't everybody be like, oh, that's been a stereotype that's used against us, right? So it's like I truly believe that moments like this Should be more educational than punitive, right? Because if you just cut nick out of here and get him the fuck out of here and He's just gonna he's gonna roll deeper into that type of like no not even nick somebody else is gonna make that same mistake Sure, because there was no there was no education done Yeah, right and that and that's what should happen in any of these situations That should happen when you know you say something anti-semitic that should happen when you say something that offends lgbt That's what should happen when you say something that offends black people women whatever And and that's that's the biggest takeaway right and chris. I don't want you to jump off just yet because I want to say this um I just simply think nick needs to be educated on the jewish community And in turn he can help to educate jewish folks on the black community There you go And we all have cultural blind spots and sometimes those cultural blind spots make us perpetuate negative stereotypes that lead to people's persecution That's why I love the statement that fox said Oh, let me read let me let me let me say this one line from fox where they said This was important for us to observe nick has sincerely apologized Oh, no, yes, uh, what he said was wrong and lacked both understanding and context and inadvertently Promoted hate right right and I think that's what happens when you have cultural blind spots You inadvertently promote hate. Are you inadvertently perpetuate negative stereotypes that leads the people's Persecution that's right. And that's that's what happened in this situation. But I don't care what nobody says Black and jewish people need each other. This is something me and chris was talking about last night Our struggles are too similar. It's too oppressed marginalized groups We need to come together in this moment and fight against the real enemy Which is Andrew, all right I'm with you. I'm with you every step of the way on that But but seriously the real enemy which is white supremacist. That's it, right, right? That's all Guys, I think that was a I think we got it. I think that was a great talk Yeah, all right, as always if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. Yeah, absolutely, right If you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit You're right, too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace