 Defining youths and leadership. Youth is best described as best understood as a period of transition from dependence of childhood to adult's goods independence. Youth is often referred to as a person between the ages of living compulsory education and finding their first job. The United Nations for statistical purposes defined these persons, those persons between the ages of 15 and 24 as youths without prejudice to older definition by member states. Leadership is all about strategy, development, impact, positive influence and being environmentally aware. There are so many issues associated with being a youth both from a global view with respect to a country system enhanced by its policy and in the Nigerian situation. Generally, youths are associated with being energetic and innovative due to their young minds and perhaps young bodies. According to population projections by the United Nations for 2020, about 43% of Nigerian population comprised of children between 0 to 14 years and 19% aged 15 to 24 years and about 62% are below 25 years. By contrast, less than 5% is aged 60 and above. Despite Nigerians increasing young population, there are some issues posing as barriers to youth development. Some of these issues are ageism and exclusion, inadequately funded educational institutions or lack of proper education, youth delinquency, insecurity, lack of adequate engagement under employment and unemployment. Developing youth opportunities and benefits includes inclusive policy, both in public and private sectors, jet tours, national sustainability, intergenerational skill transfer and mentorship, building trust and collaboration beyond the stereotypes of ageism towards effective leadership, harnessing youthful effervescence and inspired innovation for fast socioeconomic growth of Nigeria, reorientation of the society towards service driven system for our collective achievement as a nation. Can I say here that I'm a youth from this country? Sure, sure. You are. Absolutely. My energy and my that place, I'm a youth. Absolutely. Please take over that side. Absolutely. Thank you. Absolutely. And 5%? No. Absolutely. I'm forever younger than a youth. I was going to ask a question to you anytime. What do you think about this issue of ageism? When we talk about ageism, some people have this, in some quarters, you tell you this stereotype. Oh, at this certain age, you cannot achieve these same things. Like during the Sorosoki Sega, police will tell you, oh, you're a young boy. How are you driving this kind of car? You know, this question is a very interesting question for me. And not just because you're bringing up. And I probably, your example of Sorosoki, which is a young boy, but the first part of it that really hits me. And a few years ago, like five years ago or so, I actually did a post on Facebook and I said to myself that why do a lot of opportunities that come up? Especially when you're looking at international global opportunities. It's about 1835. I mean, I raised it. I said to myself, so it raised people coming up and sending questions to me. And I just called a few platforms out of Nigeria that actually have programs that really launch people back into life. So I'm spending it for women. So ageism is a real problem. But then taking it to the younger people. I think one of the things that's happened in Nigeria, especially as a country, is that we sort of like mollycoddle our young people. We so pampered them. Everything is a matter of you finish school before you actually go and get a job. So the expectation for income or for independence is at a certain age. Well, ideally your school is not supposed to be just a means to an end. It's a learning process. And you should be able to start to do some level of independence. So you triggered me by asking about that ageism question. Because a lot of things, I mean, I push for a lot of those things around that. But then on both sides of the divide, no one is too young to be successful. And no one is too old to start a dream afresh. No matter what your weight is that your career or your mates have been. I like that. I like that. Actually, during the 2019 election, the period I ran the 2019 election, when they came to not too young to root campaign, I had this thought in me. Yes, I like the fact that they want young people to be involved in policies. But I also feel that I don't like being around young people that think old people have aspired. They should go though. I think everybody should be allowed to do whatever they need to do in as much as they have the right skills and knowledge to contribute to society. What do you think about the issue of systematic inclusion and policies, especially for gender issues relating to men. We're talking about youth. Youth is not gender focused. A youth can be either a woman or a man. So most times people have this idea of saying, oh, young boys should do this. What do you think about developing young ladies too and having young men is contributing to leadership and national development, Juliet? Thank you for that question. There's a lot of questions really. And if you come to the gender side, I think in terms of development, everybody should have an opportunity irrespective of your gender, your race, your nationality or anything. If you are interested in something, you should be given the opportunity to express yourself and be developed like you have said. I don't believe we should do a gradual integration of young people into leadership. Leadership is influence. Leadership is a lot of things. Anybody can be a leader. Once you have the interest, you have the skill, and every skill is learnable. Sure. I don't think there's a particular age where you should cut off people and say, oh, you can't be this, you can't be that. Anybody can be anything. If the person has an interest, all the country needs is that structure to make it effective. So I can be 20 and be a leader. I can be 80 and be an ineffective leader. It's not age-based. So open the system. Let there be a criteria to bring people in irrespective of their age. And let there also be a selection process to kick people out. That's it. But at the end of the day, if you look at this, age is among its own. Since we are also talking about that. Let me not be the only one that is looking at that. Age is among its own. And for me, it's both a reality and a problem. Why do I say that? Yes, we use age to kick a lot of people out of what they deserve. But at the same time, age is a reality in the sense that when we look at the states and maybe the West, and that's why I told you that from a teenager, you are taught to go work in a supermarket, to raise funds for yourself. Go and do this. Go and do that. So from a tender age, maybe 15, 16, you're working so you can make money to buy your phone. But from our own tender age, you are giving all these things. So if somebody tells you in Nigeria that at the age of 20, how did you get this? He hasn't done anything wrong. Technically. In a context as Nigerians. But at the age of 20, let's tell ourselves the truth. How many youths are working at that age? And in a lot. And in a lot. Exactly. To live a certain lifestyle. But however, in the states, for example, you're talking about Max Zuckerbergs and their likes. When they start their company, they've been working for so long. How many people at the age of 22 in Nigeria have bank accounts? So if you open bank accounts when they're going to the university, in some other climes, I mean the Western stuff, you're working, you're saving, you're doing this. Even when we are giving money as kids. And parents don't give it to us. They spend it. They collect the money. So if at that age, you're told that this, for a context. I agree with your thought. But how, hang on the second. There is, hold your thoughts and then let's link it to this idea of intergenerational skill, transform mentorship. You were saying something about too much focus earlier on entertainment and neglecting other aspects. We have youths that are talented in different areas. Every Nigerian youth must not be involved in entertainment. Some are talented in technology, in the art and other aspects. So what do you think the government or the society, both from the private sector or the public sector, can do to enhance this skill? Because I remember some time ago, I went to a telecommunication industry. Then why our company, I will not disclose the name. While I was doing my IT so many years ago. Not so long ago. You don't want to fall out of a youth bracket. I see. It's alright. They said they are not going to accept any young Nigerian undergraduates to work in their fame and internship because they have high high build system. So I kept wondering, if they don't transfer this skill to us, and it's a foreign company, by the way, how do we have people that can stand up? Listen, the truth is, the truth is. A lot of times when we talk youth, we talk youth like they are handicapped, like they are underprivileged. Youth are underprivileged. Listen, I believe in this, that when we say nothing is working in Nigeria, almost every aspect of Nigeria that is working today, that is working, you have a lot of youth influence in it. True. If we are winning awards globally in the music and entertainment, it's run by the youth. Sports. Yeah, sure. Sports is the youth. So that's why I tell people that when it comes to politics and all these things, we did not wait for it to be handed over to us. The youth, well, I'm a bit above the youth age, but... Really? Yeah, I'm a bit above it. Yeah. We did not wait. People fought for it and kept spending their own time and money, but that we don't practice when it comes to politics. Because the system is paying for the system. No, but you see, and politics itself, we have a wrong idea understanding of politics. We look at politics at the presidency. No. Politics is your area. Look how, yeah. You get your area right. People can even tell you that if you don't go for chairmanship, it will support you. How many people have a nest that kind of influence in their area to end the trust of people to the extent that you are told to go and listen to all these people we talk about, they actually are used and called. They all started as youths in their 30s. Sorry, I wanted to ask you a question that he asked you about intergenerational transfer of skills and mentorship. I have a... Because this question came up, I saw on somebody's status and she spoke about how, you know, you're already a young person. You go for a job and they ask you for experience. And then he said he went to for an internship and he said he didn't want young undergrannies. But I have a question. I said, one understand that issue and we used to all kid about it. The reality of life is that knowledge is accessible to almost everyone. I explain it today. If you're a young person, if you've been a young person or in that age bracket for the last 5 to 10 years, you cannot actually hide under the guise of they did not give answers. You know what I'm saying? That is a different topic on its own. We need to move on. Same. All right. Before we round up, I'm so sorry. It's what he said about people, I mean, sectors behaving like they are handicapped. It hits. You know, that hits. It hits. I know the economy does not enable. It doesn't make it easy. But nobody is disabled. Exactly. You can do something. Sure. You can make a difference. I know you can be the president. Like he said, you can start from your streets and make a difference in your school, in your place of work. Just try and don't behave like you are disabled or you are handicapped. Thank you very much. Thank you for your contribution. We would actually try our best. We encourage youth out there to try their best. Do something. Don't rest on them. Speaking of which, after the break, we're going to call on Juliet to come and sit down.