 When I brought up with that we were going through a midwife like people got in my face and it was like man This isn't your decision, man. When you see natural childbirth totally totally different experience man, and it's It's amazing. I have never been so impressed by women by Maria who is you know my partner in like It's insane. I mean, it's freakin nuts, right? It is one of the craziest things that That I've seen and I can go I mean we can talk about this lot Yeah, the impression it leaves on you is sort of like you know You know you have so much more respect for your wife your partner your girlfriend wherever you're at in your Relationship or based on your beliefs because you know, whatever that's gonna end up looking like is is all on you But you walk away with man This is one tough lady Yeah, you know top of that the backtracking just a little bit because I remember I think it was Doug my good friend Doug McGuff at The 21 convention in Orlando like four years ago I want to say where he was talking about he has this great line talking about you know And some granola head decides they're gonna have their baby on their living room floor and They comes out with the cord wrapped around their neck and gets dropped in my lap That's a good it is a concern and it's important to know like your midwives have like graduate training in midwifery like it's It's not if you now I don't know how it was where you were but if you were looking around like first of all looks like hotel suites like giant bat Tubs and like gorgeous wonderful beds But if you look along the wall they had these little hooks and places where if they needed to hang a sailing drip or or like hang a device for like administering oxygen They could do that and they could do up to a certain number of medical procedures or give a certain number of shots based on the circumstances and then My where we had the baby was like a mile It's like a mile and a half from the north austin medical center, which is one of the st Dave it's there up on on moped nobody else will know what we're talking about but kind of north of the domain Well pretty much any good midwifery will have a hospital very close, you know any birthing Exactly and so you're seeing a lot of uh now the A lot of hospitals as well will have a birthing center within the hospital where they do all that and if something goes wrong It's like across the hall or down the hall, but it's the domain Up until that point and it's it's kind of a it's a so what scenario it's saying like well What if something goes wrong and it's beyond the scope of what they're trained to do? Well go to someone who then is he has the training it's sort of like saying It's sort of like saying well What if you need brain surgery and you're meeting with your family practice doctor? Well, then they refer you to a brain surgeon like I mean It's not a thing it's outside the scope of their practice And then they just refer you to the person who's that is the scope of their practice Um, but as clearly we both had good experiences and it wasn't it was much more medically Sound than I think people think them I think midwives and this idea of you know the grass hut and a field and the congo And nothing like that at all. It's just really comfortable safe and competent and the best to my wife's mind and you know, we were insured. It's not like we're Yeah, I mean I'm gainfully employed. So it's not like we we have problems, but she to her mind It's the best medical care she's ever had. Yeah emphasis on care just being in touch with what's going on and taking time to listen and the scope of