 Hey everybody, we are back with another edition of the Falcons audible presented by AT&T. Yes, that's right We are back. That means it is football season time. It is training camp has officially opened up We are call it 50 to 100 yards away from all the guys Filing into the complex here and they are ready to strap on the pads or actually don't strap on the pads much anymore Not as much as we used to anyway, we'll get into all that. Thanks so much for joining us again We had to take a little bit of a break because there wasn't really much football going on But now there is so here is the quick agenda for today what we're gonna be covering and then I will open it up to my fellas What we are most excited to see about this training camp sometimes training camp is just kind of another one of those things But this year is a lot more important for Atlanta because there are so many different position battles for this team To take the next step the quarterbacks speaking of position battles big one here Matt Ryan has been the the fixture at this position for this organization for so long He's obviously moved on so we've got to have a new face of the franchise if you will How about the importance of veterans as I talked about Matt Ryan is gone So who is gonna fill the void which veterans are gonna step up and help lead this team of primarily younger players And then finally I'll have the guys talk about some of their favorite training camp memories because training camp has changed a Whole lot in the last what do we call it 25 30 years Dave? So we're gonna talk about some of our All right in case you forgot I'm Derek Rackley This is Dave Archer and DJ Shockley three former Falcons here, and we're gonna talk about all things Falcons So Dave, I'm gonna start with you just quick reactions as we open up training camp What are some of the things doesn't have to be a position battle? Just what are you most excited to see this training camp out of the Atlanta Falcons? Well, first of all, it's just footballs back, right? That's the number one thing I guess that's the number one excitement level but number two for me very very close number two What I'll be all the influx of a bunch of young guys that I haven't think to have a chance to make a difference both on the Offensive and defensive side So I think the excitement of the new flux of guys in and maybe some were older Maybe some of them are young, but those new guys coming and changing the face of the team Yeah, definitely a lot of new talent in in the building and competing out on the field and looking to earn a position And help this team take the next step DJ What about you? What are you most excited to see this training camp? You know, I'll be remiss to say the same thing that Arch mentioned about just football being back I mean, it's the number one sport everybody loves to watch it. Everybody looks forward to turning on your TV and watching It's gonna be so many fans out here camp. I mean just When you walk out you smell it, you know, you know, I can't be your first walk out You smell that grass that do the fans get to see them to come out here So I'm glad football back. But for me, I think a close second would be our year two guys I want to see how big of a jump the year two guys You saw pitch last year, you know, make a jump. How big of a jump can he be, you know I mean, you know guys like Richie Grant may feel I mean Darby, you know, we didn't see much of me last year Can some of those guys have a huge impact on this team going into, you know This new season and how much of an impact they'll make that's a great point because generally first-year players We were all there at one time. There's so many things going on Yeah, you think you got it figured out when you're in college when you're at the University of Georgia And you're the BMOC the big man on campus But then you come to the NFL and they start throwing all this playbook at you Especially you two guys as quarterbacks and then not only the playbook But then you got to go do it out on the field and these guys are flying around the fastest guys You've ever seen in your athletic career. So things start to slow down a little bit or at least you hope so in year two So it's a great point. You know what? I talked a little bit about Matt Ryan And we're gonna talk about the veterans later on in this podcast But if you go around the NFL guys, you can generally take a pick and find one guy That's the face of your franchise, right? And that Matt Ryan has been that guy Basically ever since he put on this jersey through he's no longer here. So who is the face of the franchise? That's kind of what I'm excited to see who is ready to step up and say maybe it's not a quarterback Maybe it is a quarterback, but say I'm gonna be the leader of this team I'm gonna put guys on my back and I'm gonna show them the way that it needs to be done on the football field And I'm gonna help turn this this organization around and get us back into the playoffs Get us competing for Super Bowls, but it's gonna take that's that's one unique personality as you guys know To come into an NFL locker room and say guys get all my shoulders. You know what I'm saying? I like so I'm interested to see who that guy is gonna be maybe it's not one Maybe it's two or three guys, but Matt Ryan was that guy and he's no longer here So let's kind of dive into it. Obviously we talked about the roster has turned over. It's a new season. There's a lot of new faces What should we expect? I'm a DJ must start to you. What should we expect to learn in this training camp during? Specific position groups, right? Which position battles are you excited to see here in this training camp? You know, you're bringing up the first thing that comes to mind is we talked about Both guys you guys mentioned the different faces. That's gonna be a part of this team And when I think about the different faces, I said, okay, what is their role gonna be? Who are the guys you're gonna be the depend on? I think you'll learn that throughout training camp who are those guys gonna be and what their roles are You think about a guy like Lorenzo Carter coming to here. What kind of role is he gonna have you think about Casey? Hey, we're in that backside How's he gonna help that young secretary that you just talked about are just so many guys I think you're gonna wonder who's gonna be the guy on the outside who's gonna get to the quarterback We saw out a last year kind of emerge late in the year and be a guy that can really get to the quarterback Who gonna be those guys in those certain roles in those certain positions that you can know you can depend on week in and week out And I think you'll have a better idea once training camp goes on and we see what happens We have all these inter-square practices and all this kind of stuff Which one of those guys are gonna merge and how those guys help those certain position groups become better Dave The last time that we did a podcast It was basically a summary about the draft and we talked a lot about the needs for Atlanta going into it and things That popped up were edge rusher obviously wide receiver We talked a little bit about offensive line But now that we've seen all these players added to the roster in various ways shapes or forms Which position group are you the most interested in seeing? Well, we've got to make a dramatic improvement along the offensive line Now does that mean just we get into year two for a guy like Mayfield where he steps into year two And he becomes a better player or does he get pushed to Schaefer come in and take his job? What's happening at center to guys young guys in Dalman and Hennessy going head-to-head and then that right tackle position is McGarry entrenched there or is is Muhammad will step in is it Jermaine of Fetty gonna be able to step in so a tremendous amount of I think upgraded Competition along the offensive line has a chance to make some plays like news that came down where Dion Jones was gonna start the season on the pop list Does that usher in a guy? I think it's gonna be a baller in Anderson the linebacker from Montana State people saying oh, I played a little school Dude can do it all he's six foot three 245 pounds runs four four. He's a tackling machine Does that usher him in quicker and have him next to Evans his linebacker inside and does that give the Atlanta? Ability to maybe do something with Dion Jones that's still kind of up in the air as well But he starts on the pop list those are a couple areas Offensive line and then that second level of defensive line I know a lot of people talk about the D line and rushers rightly so But what's going on in that second level because we've had a guy in Dion Jones and a guy named for you A luke and who are tackling machines back there. They're gone. Yeah, who's playing there? Yeah, great point Great point. You you talked about a line and guys when we were kind of getting ready for some of the draft stuff I know you guys like to edge rusher a lot more defensive back Even I was the one that was kind of pine pounded the pavement on offensive line Yeah, and Dave, I'm gonna kind of piggyback on what you said It was interesting that you pointed out center because I literally just thought about this think about kind of the last I don't want 15 years or so You basically had Todd McClure who held that position down for so many years, right? And then you essentially went from McClure to Alex Mack, right? So you had two guys that knew how to coordinate the offensive line and they did it without a hitch, right? And so now you don't have either those guys you have young players and sometimes it takes a long time for Kind of what I was talking about those guys to feel comfortable saying I got this. I'm gonna make the rip Liz call I'm gonna make the wringo lucky call whatever it is I'm gonna make sure that my right guard and right tackle know who their combo blocking up to the next level That's a huge position that needs to be figured out and one of those guys has to take the reins and say I'm gonna do this I'm gonna be the leader of the offensive line because you start looking at the numbers rushing was not good last year I think they were like 26th in the league in rushing last year gave up 40 sacks Essentially, that's two and a half sacks a game and I would also add that having a savvy veteran quarterback in Matt Ryan Probably alluded some more of sacks that could have added on to that total He threw a lot of balls away that probably could have turned out to being sacks So let's use that as a segue to the next conversation because we didn't really dive into quarterbacks yet And I got two of them here guys and it's arguably Nationally one of the biggest position battles for this franchise. So Dave I want you to break it down what you're looking for out of Marcus Marriota and Desmond Ritter And what you think might end up playing out over the next call it four or five weeks How quickly can they do what you've talked about? I'm not talking about being the face of the team But certainly a lightning rod that becomes that leadership quality that's innate with quarterbacks You have to have some of that in you not saying you have to be the exclusive leader Matt Ryan was not a guy. There was a raw raw guy on the field now He would chew your rear end during a game. We saw it. So how can I both saw it? You saw it play out in games But he wasn't necessarily that guy that was pounding people in the back So leading by example, I think those are the first two things that are first thing I need to see from both those guys. They're gonna play Ritter and Marriota The second part of it is I think the part that I think a lot of fans are excited about is the fact that these guys Can extend plays yeah, buddy You're talking about tremendous athletes at the college level and in Marriota at the professional level to be able to extend And maybe that's not a throw away anymore And now you're second and ten maybe it's he scrambles out and gets five now It's second and five on a broken play. I think that's what I'm looking for from them as well Obviously absorb the offense be that leader But then make those off-key plays those off those impromptu type plays that maybe extend to drive Do something for you. That's gonna be positive on offense. I'll add one thing to What Archie's talking about today was the official first day where players arrived couple players got a chance to talk to the media and one guy talked today was Chris Lindstrom and I asked that kind of specific question about those two guys and the first thing he said was the leadership part of it But he said the command that both those guys had when they both walked into the huddle the command They had at the line of scrimmage. He said it took a couple days for us to kind of Understand the cadence of both guys and all that kind of stuff, but he said both guys Commanded the line of scrimmage commanded the huddle so we knew we were good Yeah And for me when you hear that from an offensive lineman that gives the confidence that okay We got guys back there that can handle the big show that can handle running his team And the first thing I already mentioned was the leadership part of being able to come in here and galvanize guys To come together and both those guys can't do that We know Ritter did it in college proven winner We know what 46 47 wins some crazy like that and Mary others looking to do the same thing I mean, he's a you know a top picks or the guy did big things at Oregon I mean, you know both these guys are made the right way But here and Chris Lindstrom say through OTA through mini camp. We saw the command We saw the leadership so we know going into this training camp. We know we got in those two guys You guys know it like you got to own it You got to own the huddle you got to own the line of scrimmage and and everybody around you will know it Not only the players but the coaches during practice that are standing nine to ten yards away with their scripts in their hand They're also gonna know whether or not like oh, okay Yeah, this kid looks like he's ready and I hate I don't want to discount Mariota because it seems like everything you read Says that Mariota should have the upper hand because of his experience in the league He's got the experience upper hand, right? I can't help but think about a comparison with Desmond Ritter to Russell Wilson Yes, that might be a little the high praise, right? But Russell Wilson was doubted when he was in college, right? Hey, he's too small. I don't know if he's gonna translate into a baseball. Yeah baseball players He really locked in right and what did he do? He came into league and he commanded the huddle and commanded the line of scrimmage And there was no question that he was gonna be the starter when he came into the league now I'm not saying that's gonna happen with Desmond Ritter, but Probably a lot of the same things I didn't play at a big-time power five school Always had to be a workhorse guy. Well, he was and guess what all they did was win Yeah, all they did was win so he's used to having like the odds stacked against him, right? so maybe that plays into his favor as he comes into the Falcons organization and like you said DJ he owns the Huddle he owns the line of scrimmage, but it's gonna be fascinating to see how this one plays out comparison though a rack I think it's a good one too Who would we talk about is some of the better deep ball passers in the national football league Russell Wilson's in the top five Yeah, he may be the best deep ball passer in the game on the money on the move Whatever he's Ritter comes in with that ability to throw the ball down the field One of the things they're talking about is Ritter's ability to stretch the field and throw the ball down the field with accuracy Interesting comparison. Yeah, I mean just guys that were doubted guys that can get outside the pocket I know that's what Arthur Smith wants to do this year use the running game and then get some bootlegs out on the edge These guys can do it. So the only time we'll tell we'll see what happens on the field This episode in part brought to you by the Home Depot everything you need for your next home improvement project is just a tap away on The Home Depot app the Home Depot app digital toolbox gives you access to how-to guides Project calculators and image search so you'll know exactly what you need to pick up with the tap of the finger You can rent and reserve the right tools for the job Also browse through millions of items from top brands that you can have delivered right to your door Whatever your project find exactly what you need with the Home Depot app download the Home Depot app today So we're gonna switch gears a little bit We talked about some of the younger players the Desmond Ritters of the world How about veterans because we did talk a lot about a guy like a Matt Ryan or some of the others in the organization? Dave tell me how important it is this training camp specifically for some of the older players on the team to step up and not Necessarily be that guy that I was talking about earlier But being that leader to show guys what it takes to be a pro What they have to do outside of their time in the building watching tape amongst each other What they need to do when they go home at night all those little things How can the veterans help advance this team? Yeah the poster child for that We all know what his name is his name is Grady Jarrett, you know a way Grady comes to work How much he works during on a Tuesday or a Wednesday or a Thursday? He's trying to get himself in that position to where when he plays on Thursday. It's getting ready for Sunday Certainly transmitting some of those ideas. I've characterized some of these guys You talked about Carter come Lorenzo Carter coming in Casey Hayward coming in some of these veteran players that are coming in Marcus Marriota with a Kind of a reboot on their career. Okay, and not the older guys were shot Evans It's a guy that was drafted just a few years ago at number one draft pick a Carter number one Draft pick and for whatever reason it didn't work out for those guys Yep, so they come in with that chip on the shoulder and I think a little bit of an edge At least I'm hoping that that's something they come in with does that edge perpetuate itself into a want to that The younger players are watching saying look at this dude preparing. Yeah, that's the level. We have to get to That's what they're gonna need to do Rack, I think I think you can't hope that that happens that has to happen Grady can carry some of the load and Dion's gonna be on the sideline. So how much can you get from there? I think Cordero Patterson loves being Atlanta. We here saw it all offseason. They got him re-signed Jake Matthews is a guy that's gonna have to command respect along the offensive line and demand That those five guys that step on the field with him and Chris Lindstrom are the three guys that they play at a high level But yeah, I think I don't think that you hope these guys can do it They have to do it and I'm hoping the chip on the shoulder thing helps some of the new guys Yeah, because it may not be a guy that's been in the league nine or ten years It might be the guy that's been three or four hasn't quite lived up to his expectations And yes, the change of scenery is what allows him to kind of break out a little bit Dave mentioned three or four names any of those ones the guys on your list or do you have somebody else? You know what those are all guys that that come to mind for sure I mean, I think when you think about the pillars or how we even started out talking about we need guys who can be the face of this Organization and those are guys that you feel like can't be specially nine seven is the one of those guys that you see out in front I mean, I see Grady on on social media all the time and it's and it's a regular day He just finished maybe leaving a facility. I know it, but he's working out He's showing the video of him doing it the accountability part of the action like a lot of guys can talk it like I play with a guy named Matt Shaw who played, you know tons of years in the league wasn't a raw rock guy Wasn't a guy who you know, you know shabby. I mean wasn't very outspoken both you guys know him very well But the guy did it every single day. So that's how I knew how to prepare I saw the things that he did on a daily basis and you got to have guys inside the locker room who can do that and I think Nine seven is one of those guys whether you're an offense or defense that you see him work You say this is kind of guy that I want to follow and be like and he I think is number one When you think about a guy on this football team that when training camp starts They're gonna be eyes watching him on how he goes every single day and that's gonna dictate where this team goes I'll tell you one other guy rack that I think that we probably should mention is Eric Harris I think Eric Harris is one of those guys that when he walks in the room just kind of commands the respect He's played at a high level in the league He played well here at times a year ago as he came in as a first-year safety here And I think that the the guy's Richie Grant and Jalen Hawkins have a tremendous respect for him At some point you expect those two guys to be on the field of maybe he's not but from a leadership standpoint I think Eric Harris needs to be mentioned as well Yeah, and I think a lot of people that are listening to this podcast They want to hear the names on the roster right now They want to hear the guys that we think have a chance to step up But I also think it's a good idea sometimes that us three step back and talk about who was that for us When we played because DJ you and I got to share a little bit of time together and I'll just start this one I'll tell you that when I came into the league in 2000. I understand that was a long time ago for many of you guys The guys that were on the roster when I came in were guys like Jesse Tuggle Sure, right and you think about him bring of honor, right? And I came in I didn't know a ton about him But I knew that I used him in Tecmo Bowl because he was legit in Tecmo Bowl and again So many people are like what is Tecmo Bowl anyway old-school video game, okay? But I came in with guys like him like Terrence Mathis guys like Bob Whitfield Chris Chandler, Bob Christian, those were the veterans that I came in with Jesse Tuggle was a rookie my third year in the league We're gonna get to you Dave, hold on. We're gonna get to you Those are the guys that helped me learn what it took to be a pro because those were guys that I saw on TV Those were guys that I saw in uniform Succeeding doing great things and I said those are the guys that I need to model my early career after what are they doing to get Ahead what are they doing to be successful of as pros? You mentioned Matt Schaub. Who else was it for you? DJ man, I remember work done when he was here I mean there's some of the things that he did in practice some of the things he did to get himself ready You looked at him and you said there's no way this guy's been in the field this long Yeah, you're like this is like a regular guy, but work is one of the toughest guys to be around another guy who I remember what when I'll say his name first and I'll tell a quick story my man lawyer my lawyer Yeah, I'm talking about when he came here. Oh man. Longdog was all business Yeah, and he was coming with a chip on his shoulder like a lot of guys Well, you know coming from different places and I remember I came in what I think Mike went down or Shobby Somebody went down and I was next in line. I'm literally sitting on the bench like, you know talking to one of the quarter base coach and Longdog comes walking by and I'm talking about the look on his face It was like you better be ready your dope name is called you better be ready cuz you next in line And I was sitting there like This man act like I gotta feed his family right now But it was so it was that important Yeah The way he was in practicing games He is one guy that you looked at all man This is a true leader for the guy who you know, you better come with it every single day Oh, he gonna let you know he gonna keep you accountable. Yeah, that's who long time was no question about it Dave, I know you've been waiting. Well, I mean I'm gonna mention names that people meant remember from long ago. Jesse Tuggle came in I think my third year in the league. He was a rookie. Yeah out of Val das the state Nobody knew who anything don't think about the guy and the next thing You know, he becomes the all-time leading tackler in Falcon history and was a Dominating player at the linebacker spot undersized as well On the defensive side, buddy Curry was a big-time player leading tackler for seven straight seasons Bobby Butler an outstanding corner that we had at a Florida State. It was a former number one draft pick But I'd have to look to the offensive side and I'm talking about ring of honor guys now I'm talking about Mike kin Left tackle. I'm talking about the center Jeff van note I mean, those are guys that ring are in the ring among Billy white shoes Johnson Yeah, our part returner and leading receiver a couple of seasons while I was here So those are name names because they're on pillars. They're at the stadium exactly and but I remember Jeff van note I walked up to coach or act like I said coach I walked up to Van note and I said mr. Van note when I was a rookie. I said mr. Van note What do we wear on road trips? He said casual class kid casual class No, those guys were big-time players and obviously they've been enshrined in our ring of honor in the stadium Yeah, and who knows maybe some of these guys that are on his current roster will end up You know kind of holding that position and getting into the ringer up the ring of honor themselves one day All right, so we kind of took a little trip back down memory lane Let's get refocused not to get refocused because that's a blast. Yeah guys are starting training camp Okay, let's do one more little story here before we go and I'm gonna come right back to you Dave training camp So give us one or two of your favorite training camp memories It could be something that happened on the field could be something that happened in the dorms It could be something that happened outside of it Maybe you decided to tell coaches you were sick at practice and you went play golf. I don't know. Maybe yeah, what kind of memories? No, there's there's so many so many memories that that flood back for me I think the thing that I remembered the most that sticks out of my mind I've told the story a lot when I arrived here in my rookie year. We did 17 straight two-a-days in What 17 days and put two of my two days of full pet my roommate was Scott case who was a former Oklahoma sooner Intercepted 10 passes in one season as a Falcon they get still the all-time record Yeah, you could knock your jock in the dirt and he would get up and laugh about it and talk to you and all that kind of stuff He comes into training camp the following year. He's about 185 fit We worked out all year long together. We were ready to go. He comes in ready to roll Three days into camp. He's packed in ice with IVs in both arms and weighs 169 I Mean weird you guys know you drink water you drink water you drink water you can't you can't eat You're still sweating it when you're at lunch. Yeah, it's wet still pouring up You lose like two pounds at lunch. Yeah lose eight at practice to it lunch come back out lose ten more in the afternoon Oh, good practices at two o'clock. Yeah Thankfully for these guys, I guess they're much smarter now than they used to be I think they even smartened up when you guys ride in the league as well, but I totally I'll never forget that I mean, there's somebody else who will visit throughout the year here on Falcons audible Tell a few stories and stuff about all of us that we have because there's a ton of them We all have but that's one that stuck. I forgot what day it was. Yeah I was writing and this is no cell phones now writing to my girlfriend write a letter to her back and I was Yeah Right So writing her a letter and I couldn't remember what day it was 17 straight days into a pad to it today in full pads. I thought wow, I really want to do this. Yeah, turn that okay Yeah, DJ. How about you man? Oh, man? So I had a couple roommates my man. Jerry's no what you guys know Adam Jennings who was a call angry man Yeah, and for people who don't know each and every day. There's a different install There's a different something you got to you know, get ready for the next day. Yeah So we've had one day of practice now you go back to your room and now we're like, okay Let's get ready to you know, get ready for the next day is look at tomorrow's install Let's start looking at it. So I'm in my room looking at it. All I know is here comes Jay Rock Everybody knows if you know Jerry, he's from Mississippi. He come a man a man if we get in Double and we got this to jet where I go Okay, we talked about we go through it. He go back to his room come back again. Hey, man I'm like, bro. I'm trying to learn it too, but he looked at me like you the QB you already know There's no thanks. So this went on for like 15 20 minutes of the entire install It was every other minute like okay So what if you know we get in this set we get in this formation and I run this I say Jay Rock come on You gotta you gotta give me some time But it was like every other minute he was coming up a different Hey, man, look look man. Look look I'm telling y'all. I need to know I need to know I can't get in there and not know We're going Jay Rock. I got you. I got you. So I remember days like that Well, it was every day of so I actually learned had to learn the playbook twice because taught it to myself Then I had to teach it to my man Jay Rock Gosh, you know, it's you think back at so many things guys and it's like I think when I when I saw this topic I was like, man, what about the rookie shows that we used to I mean, I'm never watching shock through the rookie shows when When I was a veteran at the time. I got up to say now usher. Yeah So rookie shows just so you know is where The rookies put on a show for the veterans and they can either Imitate somebody on the team or coaches to get laughs or if you have a talent like a true talent You can perform that talent and right? This is the most that was the most nervous I've ever been a problem in my life talent you better be good, right because you got what 70 guys in there That will clown you up and down and then if you don't do it good Guess what you got to come back and do it again because you've got to get it back You got to get it right. So I think about the rookie shows I think about all the things but you know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna leave it with this when I walked in the building today here There are two large ice makers in like six or seven like horse troughs sitting out front and I own a gym, right? And so everybody will come up to me as the former football player What do you do when you're really sore like so I was telling this is what I used to do Not necessarily recommending it for you, but you need to find the biggest trash can that you can find Fill it up with ice in water and sit in it and they're like, oh my gosh, that sounds Like is that not painful I'm like it's called survival. It's like the best thing Tell them this after one of those two-a-day practices Dave does it not just feel divine It was when you got out now when you got in the tub and we remember we were chep trying to find the little footies But when you get in it's gonna be about a minute and a half to But when you go to nirvana When you get out you're feeling good you get out It's like they cut off your lower half and sewed a new one on you walk out and go wow I got a lot of spring in my step. So anyway, again, I'm not giving medical advice. I'm not recommending anything I'm just telling you what used to work for us. I got I got one more last training cap story And I want Dave to kind of to back me up on this one and people may not want to hear But it's a part of training camp between quarterbacks and centers As you know centers in office a lot more pretty big guys, right? And you get through halfway through a practice and these guys are leaking. Oh my god. Yeah, that's a good word Leak it's not just sweating All right, how bad did the top of your hand smell from I'm just saying people would have a real training camp So we go keep it one We don't keep it one That is a real memory through training camp me and the child was scrubbing the top of my hand Come out and it's still still ain't right still ain't right. That's that's no lie I'll take it one step further here. We go. Let's go Our young center was on the wedge in the first preseason game. Yep guy comes down They have this huge collision. Yep kids. His name is a good player, right? Gets blasted it in the huge collision. He gets back in the huddle come out of the pruddle break the huddle and you think damn What is that? My man had You got to take a step. We're not in the shotgun. Yeah slide up underneath Playing the game But they got him over the silence, you know, there's no running back to the locker. Yeah Pants down there trying to clean this guy. Oh No, just one of the clean parts of the league. What happens in training camp people that's all very good happens Just when you think you've heard everything So let's leave it there because there might be some people that are getting a little queasy, but yes It's not always all glitz and glamour in the NFL ladies and gentlemen, you know what that's gonna do it for today I don't want to open these guys up too much because we might need to change the rating Thanks so much for joining us as our producer here Sam mentioned football season is back upon we back means we're gonna be back We're gonna do this a whole lot more moving forward. Appreciate you guys joining us here on the Falcons audible presented by AT&T Hope you enjoyed the stories. Hope you enjoyed the information and the knowledge and you know where to come back To get more from us right here on the Falcons audible. Take care everyone