 Hey guys, I hope you guys are doing well. It is a right miserable looking day outside and I'm not supposed to go outside anyway. So let's talk about your guys's comments for Supernatural Season 15 Episode 13. You guys were, this isn't like the first one all over again. There's some brutal comments in here. Obviously some comments about how the episode completely de-legitimizes lore and established con, like retcon stuff again, stuff I didn't even fucking notice because of just how ridiculous this retcon was. But admittedly when Ruby and what's her name teamed up I was like, wait a minute, how did these two ever meet each other? It's a giant giant retcon and I think Eugene is Robert Singer's wife. She was one of the writers of this episode and she's just notorious, notorious for retconning stuff. So let's, yeah, nothing else better to do. So let's take a look and see how many comments you guys said. Oh, 51, geez. Starting off with the first comment here, this is actually a positive one so apparently there might not be many more of this one. Tonight's episode was actually interesting. I found the Eden scene intriguing in the sense of it brought back the mystique of the divine and the supernatural goodness feel to it versus the corporate feel of the angels and the heavens they present. That scene felt like they were expecting from heaven, what we expect from heaven and angels. I wonder who the little girl on the snake is, Eden's where humans can get their souls back? I thought the garden was, we saw on the dark side of the moon was Eden or was that something else or is this another retcon? Will be yet an Adam and Eve. Why does the empty want to stop God? I get Billy. Also does a Mara Noe above the empty and widened Mara Noe's death. Will they actually kill Chuck? Finding it hard to believe and feel like it goes against the original point message of whatever the show is. Also Chuck in season five said we needed a toilet paper to do the sea virus, croton and COVID, LOL. Finding out supernatural been on so long that they can connect aspects of it to real life events and stuff that happened to the actors. The plane issue they had on Jared's plane they mentioned that Vegas con connected to an earlier episode with a phantom in the plane to this stopping production is Chuck destroying your world of virus. Damn it was hoping for a meteor crash. I wouldn't want a meteor crash bro. Meteor crash would be far far worse than this COVID business. Quite funny how the whole Chuck hoarding the toilet paper has started to become a pretty big meme and I'm noticing this amongst people who don't even watch supernatural so as long as people watch the first five seasons that's cool. Now we're starting to get onto the critical ones here. Plot holes galore this episode. Ruby and sister Jo being buddies makes no sense because when Dean was raised from hell in season four Ruby didn't know about the angels and even if she did she was still scared shitless after seeing what they could do. Yes I remember that. Why would she be having girl time with one of them and didn't Jo fall in season nine like the rest of the angels so why was she on earth during season four when apparently she ended a sign job in heaven during the time. Also alternate reality Sam and Dean tell our Dean at the end of episode that they saw the Impala and drove it while they were looking for the occultum. How could they have seen and driven the car of Sam and Dean took it to the church where the occultum what yeah actually wait a minute what the hell but the thing that frustrated me the most about this episode was how misleading the promo was every single person I have seen talk about it on Twitter as well as myself thought this episode was going to be figuring out what to do with the other Sam and Dean TV guy even did a whole interview with Jared and Jensen oh I see what this is going to talk about and then in the episode they barely show up for more than five minutes you could have cut them out entirely and nothing would have been missed there are only two things that kept this episode for being a steaming pile of garbage for me one being Jack's moment at the end after he gets his soul back Alexander Carvette really pulled me into his performance there I like the line that where he said he should have understood their pain because his own mother died in reference to Mary's death yeah if they bring back Mary I will actually riot please no yeah please do not bring her back and other saving grace was seeing Rachel minor again it sucked that it wasn't actual Meg yes actually seeing her again was great she's a character who actually actually has stayed dead because Crowley killed her she actually turned into one of my favorite characters especially with Rachel minor the best Meg like I like the first Meg she was really good at being villainous but the second Meg she made it fun it sucked that it wasn't Meg but I'm just glad something actually managed to make me smile in this episode and I really liked how they worked around her disability by giving her a throne to set on because that's such a Meg thing oh yeah I forgot she has a mess that's why she isn't acting right now I think it's that mess but no that's actually that's a good point that's unfortunate but I'm so happy to have seen her again so we have to write a story about Jack getting a soul back let's make it utter mess let's have fun and make a self parody of our usual writing I like that thanks to the actors though it's pointless that their wives are on the show they ended Ruby's character so perfectly and it was so unnecessary to bring her back and Danielle's character what the fuck this is supposed to be the best season instead they're wasting their time giving their wives pointless screen time I'm not going to disagree because it's not wrong because I don't understand what the point of those like their cameos in this episode just I didn't get it it was fan service to the end's degree also as God said or not even batting in high at what her brother's been up to she must sense it or something damn must be an amazing vacation season kind of wonder yeah where is Amara I'm very curious because they are going to run into some issues with getting her if they haven't already filmed her yet because she's on the Mandalorian right well she wasn't the first season I'm kind of curious to see if she's going to be in the second season she's the forge master right so I'm kind of curious to see how they're going to work around because I imagine her money went this was par for the course for season 15 bring back old characters in a way that absolutely makes no sense through retcon it's not even worth picking apart anymore for places that used to be near impossible to get out of they sure are making a hell make getting out of hell and and the empty of breeze they're like revolving doors like hell it was the it was the same set even like when they went in and they're like yeah this was a trap like I said in my review this episode had like the mentality of an adhd simpson's modern day episode just next thing next thing next thing next thing it was so irritating nothing in the story mattered it just kept moving on to the next thing you're right even was already established in season five and the scene with joshua was glorious but hey let's let let's retcon it anyways also joe saying that she likes patalecki's vessel more than the blonde referring kathen and kassidy felt unnecessary mean spirit I kind of thought that was interesting too I don't know why they were so mean to kassidy like ruby has two totally different characters she has season 3 ruby which is this really kind of cool anti-hero like she really nailed the kassidy girl she really nailed this line of can you trust her you never really could but she was reliable but the knife remember the knife being like holy shit you can kill a demon with a knife that was huge being a witch and all this other stuff season 4 was a totally different ruby totally different character but I didn't complain because she realized she had to get on sam's side the scene where dean was playing with a rubber band made me laugh even the characters were losing interest in the plot I'm actually kind of don't know what that is I imagine it's when they were sitting around the table all discussing stuff going on and I imagine dean's just there with I can't remember this part but I imagine that would have been funny it takes alcohol to get through this episode geez I haven't gotten to there yet because I'm holding off on this covid thing he's going wasn't terrible but now I feel like supernatural is the jack show he's the only one getting character development this thing and the whole plot depends on what he is going to do or not and it's a bad sign aren't the winchers are supposed to be the heroes here why everything on why everything on the plot depends on jack's decisions because he is not a good character jack should have never existed they should have brought jesse the antichrist to fill the role just saying I've seen this comment actually a couple of times you guys know that he is essentially the antichrist character brought back because that was an episode that dab wrote co-wrote jack is essentially that character they didn't want to bring the jesse kid back because it's such a huge random bring back that would have been kind of more so a fan service he bring back this is a legitimate way of doing it they actually did establish how they brought jack about and yeah of course he's got character development he's only been in the show for like two seasons sam and dean have been there for 15 now and their character development stopped like season eight and then season 11 too actually they were just kind of witnesses to what was going on in season 11 and I actually didn't mind that again because I thought the season and I thought the show was going to end season 11 seeing in here I'm not complaining that jack is like a key part of the show he has to be something has to be going on and I also wouldn't call the jack show either because he's been gone since well he was gone for almost 10 episodes and then he got resurrected again for the third time in less than three seasons I disagree I thought the entire scene of alternate sam and dean talking to real sam dean was absolutely hilarious the same with the busy busty asian beauties part I really enjoyed this episode I thought it was the second best behind the pool house episode oh buddy I respect your opinion but no in my opinion this was not better as good as the pool house episode there's been a few episodes much better than this one this was not a good episode this is bad writing this is very bad writing oh this is this is a harsh one here can we just rename this episode couples were union there are so many reasons for joe and ruby storyline that makes no sense the only thing that they have in common is being married to the brothers in real life I guess that the pair up was a success if their goal was to entertain me with adorable irony anyways watching this episode felt like a sitcom without the laugh track couldn't tell if the humor was self-aware or really just flat like the characters were giving a beat of silence hoping they chuckle which is unfortunate because I feel like Jensen and Jared have proven their ability to be really funny and emotional and the script just restricts them but 80% of this episode with just slow moving storyline and fan service cameos regrettably will admit I kind of enjoyed but I didn't think it helped the story I still don't get death always being so vague especially since he consistently reminds everyone that they are under time constraints that actually that's a good point if you wanted to be getting done you need to be clear a bit of a jerk move to withhold info unless she doesn't know what the occultum is either nearly thought of they pull a pulp fiction and never actually revealed to the audience what the super weapon being a McGuffin would have been completely unlikely at this point it turns out it was just Dean Eden though so how is there not a single bit of lore on that last scene had me a little more move jack getting his soul back takes away his new character but crying over mary was personally the most attention grasping scene and leads jacks and deans relationship to a predictable but resolved ending yeah yeah almost man I was so tuned out by the end no one is talking about half no one is talking about that there is now two sands and deans in the main universe well no because they went back didn't know it oh god I really really enjoyed this episode yes it was slow but in a good way it wasn't slow though that's the thing it was just kept on going it barely stayed on anything for any amount of time that it was so boring this is the first time I've watched one of your reviews I will also be my last supernatural happens to be my favorite show for the last 15 years and I don't appreciate it someone like you putting it down well you well he is a very critical reviewer and quite objective I love it when people do that because they think they're gonna wreck me oh buddy you have no idea how much shit I went through through season 12 and 13 I figured out a way to just turn that toxicity and like turn it on its head like yes give me your comments give me your hate because I will break you I will prove my point well I guess this is how the Winchester go out getting sick by coronavirus I mean the characters not the actors I won't hold my breath for the rest of this shit show so accurate it was an okay episode and certainly better than last week snooze fest but it somehow still managed to ring hollow I kept picturing how funny alternate sam and dean would have been under kripke's watch edlin anyone yep edlin these writers want to be able to turn out soulless drivel disguised as an instant classic the ingredients are there but the measurements were wrong that's actually a really good point good way to describe it completely agree it feels more like a filler episode not sure how it's possible to have episodes that give us nothing for a whole 40 minutes and episodes that feel rushed through I did at least like the feeding part even though I thought the snake was supposed to be lucifer and maybe Joshua was a little girl anyways we can't expect the writers to actually remember facts of their own show Jeremy do you feel like season 15 has gotten better or worse since the first few episodes honestly no it's been a middle of the dam row the only good episodes that have been have been when they brought I lean back as well as the Michael one and the pool house episode but honestly that's it it's been very mediocre throughout essentially and it has it has been very mediocre throughout this season I really enjoyed this the episode seeing ruby back was cool yeah I was fan-servicing but pretty cool my issue and I've seen other people mention how was ruby met an L since an L came into the picture when the angels fell I'm excited to see what comes next just hoping they come back soon I've got a lot of comments across the board saying the salmon Dean went to Eden it wasn't Eden it was Sam and Deans wanted to see some people saw the Garden of Eden others see God's throne room for you I believe this is a bit botanical gardens where you went on a field trip with your kids thank you for clearing that up to the episode it was okay it felt like we kind of rushed and you could cut 90% of it out and still get a story at least Billy didn't have her plastic Halloween prop with her the site that music when they enter hell though I was half expecting fans of the opera to appear in front of them anyway yeah it was pretty much the jack show now Sam and Dean are just side characters I was hoping it wasn't going to be but because the show started with Sam and Dean that's how it should end but nope they've got the golden boy jack again you guys they do need something to actually end this like I it's not the jack show sure he's getting character development that's because there's nothing left for the brothers they don't have any character development left so they have to do this wow oh shit I talked for 20 minutes hopefully I can edit this down but anyways guys thank you again for your comments obviously we won't be seeing any for a while um I might try and review a supernatural season 2 episode today but I'll have to check my schedule because I'm just so busy anyways thank you guys again stay safe wash your hands and let's get all through this together especially for you guys in the states I know you definitely are going through a rougher time than us Canadians now with all the numbers so practice social distancing guys it's hurting right now I've lost all of my weddings up until June like I've got one left in June that so far hasn't canceled but aside from that I've lost a lot of my business for this year but I'm still sticking to this whole staying inside thing so make sure you do too so for me if you like this video leave a like and if you're interested in more subscribe and also if you feel like you don't like my comments make sure to leave a comment about it so you won't come back sorry that was always cracking up anyways see you guys next time