 It's just pretty crazy that like a doctor can like assault sexually assault women and be like protected by the white coat, you know he had me put on a gown and Came back in the room and reached up the gown and did a breast exam. I mean it wasn't like flat foam. It was like graphing and Then he proceeded to do a vaginal exam about any warning But then I was even more shocked when he proceeded to do a rectal exam without any warning it was super painful and just like a really aggressive and Then you know as he was finishing up. He said well your husband's a lucky man like it definitely felt violated in the moment and it felt wrong, but At the same time I didn't have a lot of experience with OBGYNs or getting exams obviously and so And I also like viewed him as being a man in authority. You know, he's a doctor. He's a male He's a lot older than me And so I think I automatically it was just like I must be I must have misinterpreted or like I should have known that He was gonna do a rectal exam. That was my fault that I didn't know You know every once in a while I would like think back to that experience and I looked up his name and read started reading reviews and discovered that like there were Other women who had had similar experiences with him Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon stories podcast. I'm your host Dr John DeLynn. I thought like well, I'm like I should have known that it would include a rectal exam That was my fault that I didn't know that and then like I probably just misunderstood his intentions Like he was probably just trying to be nice You know, I was talking to my therapist about it and she said you did exactly what the patriarchy conditioned you to do You just you know Sit down and shut up There were just so many women that started common both commenting and also sending me private messages and saying Like hey, this happened to me too. And like in the process it helped me to not feel like I was alone Initially the loss who started with just I think four of us Even though there were a lot more women than that who had experienced it. It was like, let's get let's get the ball rolling The judge right from the outset said like I want to let you guys know like a meeting toward calling this medical malpractice It's stressful talking about it. It's stressful like reliving it It does help me to have a little faith in the justice system that you know now the Supreme Court of Utah is taking on the case and they're interested in looking at it and hopefully that will like Set a better precedent for for this because we can't be calling sexual assault healthcare