 Boss Boss Boss Yeah, we on boss talk one on one Yeah, we gon' talk, we gon' have fun We be on fire, we be live lit It's a unique hust, big shit Big shit, big shit It's a unique hust, a nigga big shit Big shit, big shit Name another podcast like this Who gon' bring it to the table? Boss talk, who your girlfriend favorite? Boss talk, we gon' do it how you want it Boss talk, yeah, everybody on it Boss talk, it's a unique hustle Boss talk Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle It's your boy E-C-E-O And I'm here with the lovely official Mr. Mako, what's going on? What's going on, what's going on? You done know? Ay man, so, man, here we go again, man You know, if some people you know They don't even need no introduction When I say that, I found this cat Right here, man, I ran up on him, man One of my partners told me about it He said, man, go check him out I said, man, this nigga right here is talented, man And I see what they trying to do with this boy I mean, this boy here can go pop He can go rap, he can do whatever And that's why I was like, man, I love what he got, man And how he bring it to the table, man Flex and fab, baby, what's going on? What's up, my boy? Ay, man, save, man You're welcome to be here, man Cause I feel like I'm sitting in the presence of greatness, man Cause I know already, ay, no, man I know, I know it's gonna happen It's gonna work, nigga, that's what I'm talking about It's gonna work And at the end of the day, I see what it's doing And I know the numbers and I'm looking at the algorithm And I say it's gonna work And that's when you know Like, I got an ear for music And I see what you're doing Yeah, I don't judge like everybody else And my top three, when I do the top three It's always different from everybody else's Cause I look at things from a different perspective But when I see you I just know that you can break culture barriers Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah And that's the part of you that everybody should be scared of If they're competing Cause really, you should be competing Anytime you get on the mic You're gonna look at the other cat that's in your realm And be like, okay, he got something You know what I'm saying? And so I see it And I know these niggas gonna hate And I'm glad because that's the way you grow You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Flex and Fab, baby, what's up? Hey, what's up, my boy? What's up? So tell me a little bit about yourself, man How you came up with that name? Oh, oh, shit, okay All right, look, damn, that was a good intro Thank you You're welcome, brother Thank you, brother, thank you Thank you, make me feel good Make me feel like my fucking store Hey, I've been watching, you didn't know, huh? I didn't know You're like, this nigga's something different I had motherfucking... That's what I was telling you I'm gonna tell you about the name right now, right? I'm gonna tell you about the story I was just saying, though, like Gio had, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy Gio, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gio, bad boy, man Love that cat So he had motherfucking had told me That we was gonna do an interview Okay You know what I'm saying? We shot the video, my hood did just drop Go watch that shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gon' get into that No, it'll be true We gon' get into that shit I gotta do that, yo, there I'm proud of placement, I'll do it All that shit So good But he had told me he was like Yo, we finna do an interview I'm like, okay You know what I'm saying? He was like He ain't tell me no specifics He ain't tell me your names He ain't tell me where What, nothing, nothing, nothing He was just like, bro We doing an interview This shit gon' be like, you know what I'm saying? Legit, I'm gonna send you a link later He never sent me the link Wow, he sent me the link like two days ago You know what I'm saying? I got damn click on the shit And I'm like, damn, like You know what I'm saying? This shit, this shit, like I was telling you Like this shit hard Thank you, man Thank you so much You know what I'm saying? And kind of like you said Like I had followed you the other day Yeah, yeah, yeah, I followed you back Yesterday, you know what I'm saying? And you DM me, boom, off the bat I'm like, oh, okay, that was sure Like you know what I'm saying? You a real one, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I had went and did my research You know what I'm saying? I ain't know, you know what I'm saying? I gotta go do my research I'm gonna see if you gon' be a Are you a Charlemagne? Yeah, yeah, yeah You know what I'm saying? When you looked at it, what did you think? Bro, you done did George Yeah, yeah, for sure You done did Cruz You done did my boys Yeah, yeah, yeah, I rock with him Shout out to George and J. Cruz Shout out to Cruz, bro Bro, I love Cruz Yeah, yeah, yeah Them good guys, man Them good guys Crew probably the one of the I'm gonna say One of or if not the first person I met in this shit Wow The first person I met in this shit I didn't know Real talk, bro I was telling my producer this shit The other day, right? Maybe like Tuesday or something I was like, fam, I'm doing an interview on Friday I'm like, bro, like I ain't a little boy no mo You know what I'm saying? Like I got something to say Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Like I was telling my girl that shit I'm like, I'm like, dawg, like Cruz Like literally, like I said First person I met in this shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, man Shout out to J. Cruz, man But regardless, that's how I came across this shit I like it, yeah, yeah He told me about, you know, Paco Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure Paco been here years ago I didn't know that Yeah, he's like a long time ago On my way here On my sister, on my way here I talked to Paco Okay I'm like, yo, I'm on my way to the interview He's like, I bet who is he I'm like, bro, I like I don't know if I'm gonna meet him right now Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I followed him on the grab and shit I didn't know that he telling me He brought some famous stars Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Some expensive tastes I wanna say He may work with Triple D With Triple D I'm trying to see whether It's either Triple D or expensive tastes I've been here for 15 years going on So it was like They was trying to get their product placement in And I'm a real one That's why Prophecy the only one I'm the only one ever did an interview with Prophecy Yeah, yeah, yeah Because I helped people So I met him on something else Where I helped him So at the end of the day And the list goes on and on and on So that's how a real one does As you said Prophecy my boy though Yeah Like it's crazy Actually, we probably Don't have to have a conversation after No, it's all good You know what I'm saying? But Prophecy is crazy Like I said My motherfucking roots like Brighten bro You been around I done put some work in That's what's up I done put some work in And I ain't even bro I can tell man Like through the music That you season I can tell that you blessed That's what matter man The most important thing Is that you have a foundation You know what I mean I've met a lot of celebrities And it's the it factor That they gotta have You know what I'm saying I just was with Sergeant Jay last night He has that Sergeant Jay produced Busset Oh He was here Ericka He's a producer for them And it was 15 Set out to Yeah 1501 Yeah So the thing is You can tell the ones That got that it factor You know what I mean And you guys got it man And the only thing You gotta do is Just stay humble You know what I mean And keep pushing That's something that I try to do though Like Yeah I know that But I'm happy I feel like I've been in this shit forever already But it's like I'm looking at the wall Like I see you like Bro Literally I don't know I got the same hat Powers got on right Oh yeah yeah yeah And shout out to Paw That's my boy I got some fun records With Paw Yeah you do Man Paw my dog That's my dog How long you been doing it Man bro look at this I'm Like you said you used For the blow my mind I'm for the blow your mind I ain't even know You been in it that long Man on my sister On my sister When I looked at your Instagram He a kid. He a kid. Look at this, look at this, bro. I'ma show you, I'ma just give you the phone. Look at the picture, look at the caption and look at the comment. Wow. Tell the people what that shit's like. It says, happy birthday, mom. Thank you for choosing me, I love you. And who comment on that shit? Tell my prayer hands and birthday kisses. Oh yeah, that's DJ Paul, man. That's what's up, man. Happy birthday, man. That's what, I mean, that's love, man. When I met him, man, I told him, I say, man, you guys, that was right after the movie that won with Terrence Howard. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. It's hard out here for a pimp and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was after that movie, man. What's that shit called? The Hustlin' Flow. The Hustlin' Flow, yeah. And I had seen him in Vegas. We was in Vegas, man, and I just loved everything that they represent. They were, at that time, one of the first ones to get a Grammy, and I was really excited about that because of the hip-hop culture. You know what I'm saying? See that go back to what I'm telling you, the first thing I said as soon as I sat in the chair I was like, bro, you a real one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, G.O. real, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a relationship like that with somebody like Paul, like, that's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's coming on my mama birthday picture. Oh, that means you out there bad, you know what I'm saying? That's just one thing, you know? You got so many different things going on with you, and it's such a blessing to see that energy. I love the fact that you rap, and then you can change it up, and you sing. Oh, yeah. You know, it's a whole different, you're a whole package. Like even going back to, like you mentioned prophecy. Yeah, yeah. We had went down there with prophecy down to Houston. We shot a whole video with Paul. Wow. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Paul Wall. You know what I'm saying? Paul Wall, good one there. Him and Krystal, shout out to Krystal Wall and Paul. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good people. I had did a record with Paul Wall. See this crap, bro, bad, bro. We had did a record. Me and Paul did a record on one of Zaitoan Beats. Wow. In Atlanta at Zaitoan's engineer's house in Zone 6. Wow, in Zone 6? In East Atlanta. Wow. I'm not lying. That's crazy. He buss up in the, bro, Paul Wall, he probably gonna be embarrassed when I say this shit. Shout out to my boy Paul Wall. Shout out to Paul Wall. Bro, he record this shit in the closet. We record this shit in the closet. It happens. It happens. That's a good thing, man. Sometimes the good ones are recorded like that. Yeah, bro. Shout out to my boy Zaitoan too. We'll talk about that. Oh, yeah. I wanna talk about that flex and fab with Steel Ball. But hold on, he still ain't told me how to name him. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, look. Okay, so that's my name. Fab, that's my name. Your real government name. Yeah, I'm not finna say my whole name, but look, I'll show you my ID. Yeah, that's his name. And then I'm finna get into a little story. And then flexing? I was just, you know, last time. He thought that was the name. We got the small hermene. Oh, really, man? Just a little something, something? Look at my, it say right here, given name. Okay. So that's how it go down? Yeah, that's my real name. That's how it go down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. And flexing was just like, it's alliteration, it's catchy, it's a fab. I like it, man, like I said, and when you put it in YouTube, you gotta put it all together. Don't be spreading it out. Put it together because it's flexing fab, baby. But now y'all read my full name, right? Yeah. You saw, that wasn't an ID. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It means ID, but it's the deferred action car. Okay. So I like the DACA car. Yeah. That shit is, like, I'm not from here, you know what I'm saying? I was born in Costa Rica. Okay. I'm Costa Rican, 100%, my mama, my daddy, my grandparents, like, like literally, bro, literally my sister, my little sister, and one of my cousins that she's here, she stay with my mama and shit. They're the only two people in my whole, whole, whole bloodline that was born here. Wow. But how old were you when you were moved here? I was one. You was one? So I'm here. I'm from Dallas. Oh, really? I'm from Dallas, but I ain't, you seen this shit? I ain't, I'm an immigrant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? My mama an immigrant, you know what I'm saying? That's something to talk about. I heard what Cruz was on here. He said, he said the same thing. He said he's an immigrant kid. Kid, that's right. I'm a mother mother. You're an immigrant. You know what I'm saying? Like, I would try to get jobs and shit when I was a young- But y'all be the hungriest, my nigga. Y'all be the hungriest, bro. Man, come on. I know that. Dad, what I'm trying to tell you- Gary V, shout out to Gary Vaynerchuk. Y'all be the hungriest. Yeah, nah, for real, that's what I'm trying to say. You don't even know what that is, dude. Nah, I don't. You gotta look him up. He a beast. Oh, that's buddy, that's buddy who be on Instagram. He got that money, no, he got that money. He has a company, he's a hustler. He hustles hard. Gary V, love to have him on the show. He got a company, man, where he help a lot of people too. You know, and he just, you got to just look him up. He motivates you to do better in life. Like he tells the story about coming to this country as an immigrant. He ain't the Indian, the Indian, no. You gotta look him up. You'll love it. And if you follow him, he gonna be like, he's gonna come in. I'm sorry, I'm not too educated. I didn't mean to- No, no, no, no, no, no. Gary V gonna love it. I mean, he might look at this and see you. He the type of dude that he love hip hop too. And that's the thing I like about it. He used to rock with Nipsey Hussle when he was living. No, he ain't from Dallas. He from out of state. I think he's in New York, but I'm just telling you, he's a mogul when it comes down to promotions and hustling and dealing with things. He can foresee things before they happen. Like with technology, with platforms like Instagram, he buys in, he had opportunity to buy into Uber and he didn't do it. It's a couple of things. He's big money. There's ain't no game. No, there ain't no little bullshit. He planning on buying the Jets. That's one of his big slogans that's his why. You gotta have a why. You gotta have something you're reaching for that you feel like is the greatest thing that you could ever do. And that's what he does. He said, I'm gonna own the Jets one day. And that's what he always slogan. And I always looked at him. He's a motivational guy who pushes you and then he gives you a algorithm to where you can reach or attain what you're looking for. You can do it too. That's what I love though. That's what I love. So you gotta check him out Gary Vee. He's not doing it himself. He's trying to help everybody to do it. To do it with him. With him. Yeah. Like I said, I did my research, right? Yeah. I, uh, Jamaica? Oh yeah, a fisherman's Jamaica. You said, correct me if I'm wrong, right? I'm a little, you know, drinking some. It's all good. But you said you was here when you was 21 when you came here? There you go. You know what I'm saying, right? You know what it is. You know what I'm saying? I hear the accent and all that shit. Yeah, definitely. You know what I'm talking about. So you love the show. You're like, this is where I need to be. Man, bro, I did my research. I even got some shit that's gonna fuck your mind up. I was one day, look. Look, I'm gonna change the topic completely. Okay. That's what's up. Let's put a pin in this. Immigrant status and all that shit. We'll get back to that, all right? This for you now. Okay. I bet you didn't think I was gonna know that it was the 21 and all that. I bet you didn't think I was gonna know that. But a 300 ain't no Bentley. Correct. And a Parmin ain't a house. Okay. And a Geneva ain't no Rolex. Oh, okay. Y'all know what that is. Uh-uh, what are we talking about? Man. That's something I would say though. My boy, you said, I think you told George that you love Pimp. Oh yeah, definitely. Man. I didn't hear that. Yeah, Pimp said that. I can tell you some things Pimp said before you was even born. Maybe like, how old are you? Bro, I ain't even hit 25. That's right. So you know, when I first started listening to Pimp, man, this is telling me something good for you. This whole, I was hustling. And at the end of the day, they were just coming out with the music and the music kind of went with my hustle. Cause you gotta realize, man, I've been through a lot. You know what I'm saying? I done faced a lot of different situations that pretty much made me stronger. As I say, you gotta grow. You gotta stretch. You gotta have a Y. My mom died and six months later, I faced some things that at the end of, oh yeah, that was in 96. And the thing I can say is that a ride in dirty and all that, you know, that was therapeutic for me. You know what I'm saying? People don't realize how deep it gets. When you really listen to the sound of music, you know what I mean? Not go by what the masses tell you to do, but you go by what you know and your heart feel. And that's where I come from with it. But even in life, people don't realize that you're not the only one who's going through a certain situation at that time. So even whenever you write a song about something that you're going through and you put it out there and so many other people who are going through the same exact thing and they realize, see, not to cut you off, I'm sorry. But see what crazy is that? That's how kinda like the Y, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Y coming back to the little immigration status and stuff like that. It's always been like, you know, money. You know what I'm saying? Helping my mom. Helping your mom, trying to get them out of those circles. Don't want them to go through nothing that they don't have to face. Of course, of course, because bro, I'm telling you, bro, like, a niggas was motherfucking, you can imagine. Went through it. And motherfuckers was fucked up, bro. Yeah, no, no, no, I get it. And I'm saying like, like. But that's what bring the dog out of you, though. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what I'm trying to tell you, nah, nah. Like, like, bro, I don't see my mom up, bro. My pops left when I was little. You know what I'm saying? It's probably about 10, 11. I don't know, right? Yeah, he bail. You know what I'm saying? He went back to Costa Rica. Me, I'm saying, who knows why? I don't know why. Shout out to my pops, right? So you don't have a relationship with him? I mean, he's not dead or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying? He bailed. But he left, he left. But have you spoken to him? I talked to him, yeah. I talked to my daddy, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, I'm grown now, bro. But you still remember that? Yeah, bro, like, it touched you a certain way. It's a young nigga, bro. It's a young nigga, like, see, look. I got a whole bunch of partners that they don't know they daddy at all. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That's one thing. You never had your daddy, you don't have no picture in your mind at all. Yeah, yeah. Me as a young nigga, one day, my daddy here, next day, boom, my pop's gone. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, yo, I don't, it's, you know, how, why? Was it me or something like that? Yeah, you start trying to figure it out as a kid. Yeah, I'm looking at this shit like, yo, like, mom, like, you know what I'm saying? I went through the same vein where my dad kind of pipped bail the same way. So you never axed him? No. Well, he didn't really bail, they kind of broke up, but it's still where we was floating and floating. And when you floating different places in your father and in your life, it does something to you to like, why he ain't coming around or why he didn't make it or why he don't even try to reach out. Because you got a dang phone or you can get on WhatsApp and reach out. WhatsApp or real, you know, you tripping. So I get where you coming from. You know what I'm saying? Like it's like, and then it's a matter of like, he used to call my mama. You know what I'm saying? Just on some like, oh, like, you know what I'm saying? Like say hi to fab, shit like that. I'm like, I'm like fam, like, you know what I'm saying? Like hoffing. I'm right here, nigga. Yeah, like hoffing. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I think a lot of times you got to realize what kind of upbringing they had. I think it stems in what they went through. So he didn't know I'm gonna tell you, I'll tell you something. My dad went through some conditioning because of what he had went through. And my granddaddy, you know, he had nine boys and five girls, but one of the kids died on back of the truck and he stopped drinking because one of the kids, you know, died. They wrecked and the kid died, you know? So, and then you look at how they came up, you know, and during those times and then you try to look at him trying to raise a family and not really understanding the way things were supposed to go with you. It's just, he couldn't, he couldn't get it, you know? And at the end of the day, I think we can't, we can't look at them and not forgive them. Exactly. You got to feel sorry for them because at the same time, you know that they didn't understand what was going on. Exactly. And it is a vulnerability. We want to look at them as our God and we want to put them up way up there. But they just mirror me and just like you and I. And so we have to break that curse by forgiving them so we don't take it to the next stage. Also making the same mistakes. That's right. You're going to bring that with you if you bring hatred. Hatred is only going to pretty much interject that into the next stage of life. I'll tell you the truth. Earlier today, not even, maybe what time is it? It's eight o'clock, maybe four hours ago. You know what I'm saying? I had my brother at the house, you know what I'm saying? He had a, he- How old is he? I mean, it's not my real brother. Okay, okay. But it's my brother, it's actually my artist. You know what I'm saying? We'll get into that in a little bit. I just asked Jim Bunny about an artist. We got to have an artist or somebody or somebody. These are my artists. These are my artists. That's what's up. I got two artists that is in the, you know what I'm doing. You working with them? Yeah, yeah, you working with them. But a nigga, he got a little boy. Okay. He just turned three. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Just turned three. And my other partner, he used to live with me. He named Tommy D. He used to make all my beats. Shout out to my boy, Tommy D. Shout out, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to all of them, right? Tommy D used to live with me. Live with me. Like I said, at my mom's house, we used to sleep on the floor. Flo, yeah. On the floor. That's what's up. Roaches and shit. Yeah, I've been there. All that shit. You know what Tommy D is. I've been through that. So, he had a little boy. Okay. Nowadays, my sister literally watches him. He just turned four. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Baby sits every single day. That's what's up, that's what's up. I went over there today to see him, right? I had picked up my boy, brought his little boy over there. They having fun. They doing they little thing or whatever. You know what I'm saying? But I look at him and I'm like, damn, I remember when, not Tommy D, but you know what I'm saying? I remember when Stain got his girlfriend pregnant. Okay. Not when the baby was born, when he told me she was pregnant. It's a nigga I grew up with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Both of them niggas. You know what I'm saying? And I'm looking at him. I'm like, dawg, like, you're gonna be a good dad. Yeah, you give him inspiration. You know what I'm saying? We had the baby shower. Wow. Drunk. You know what I'm saying? Tears and shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, dawg, you're gonna be a good dad, fool. Because me and you was like this. That's a good friend. You know what I'm saying? Me and you was like this, right? You got to be like that for him. Yeah, for him, for him. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to be like that. And I swear to God now a day where he don't go nowhere without his son. That's good. That's good. Because you're not gonna take the whole, whole baggage into different relationships. All that shit. So you have a son too. I don't got no son. No, he don't have no kids. I don't have no kids. Listen, man, you don't know what's going on here. Look at him. That's flexing, man. I don't need no kids. I ain't got no kids. He got some big about to do so. He ain't got time for that right now. We should do some crazy shit. I'm gonna be putting some merch on him when I get my clothing right. But what I'm saying, the reason I say my little boy is cause they my little boy. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Like, look, I'll tell you how deep this shit go. Stain, he got one baby. Tommy D got one baby. My other partner, Bean, he got three little girls. You know what I'm saying? My partner, my nigga, Salios. See, he met Salios the other day. He all in the video. You seen that shit? He's had two Mexican's, all them niggas. He got four kids. Wow. One of my niggas I grew up with, he got three babies, bro. His baby's all around me. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Tommy D just had his second son actually. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't need no kids. Yeah, but the thing I say about you, you're a good friend because you acknowledge all the kids. They just show how much love he got in his heart. I want to get to the music a little bit. Oh yeah, let's go. Yeah, fuck all that. Let's go. I want to talk about, I want to talk about steel ball. That's the one with your boys, they told me. How did that, how did that? Shout out, I want you to let that, let that cat know I need his help on something too when you talk to him. Cause I know y'all talk. I want to try to, I'm trying to. We going to Atlanta? Yeah, yeah, y'all going down there next week? We going, we going late April or May. Okay. Why don't you do it? I want to try to get, I want to try to get producers on this show. Cause I want to have like little listening sessions on air. I don't think nobody's doing that. Don't take my idea niggas. But at any rate, I want to, I want to, I want to try to put different people on the platform, you know, to where that really know the music and the sounds. I want to get into that deep. I got some guys coming this week. And like I always say, what's the name was here last night? Sergeant Jay that did that. He was here last night. He was here last night. Yeah. So the thing I can say is I want to do something where I can vibe with these beach man and do something with the producers. Cause artists get a lot of shine, but the producers usually don't get much. So I want to talk to him about helping me to do something like that or be in a party coming on the show. Oh yeah. You know, so that just hollat him for me when you talk to him. But let's get into that banger. How did you get this dude to town? How did this guy get the relationship with you? I want to know all about it. Man looks. I, You ready to talk to that nigga? Zaytov and I love you. I owe you a lot. I ain't reach out to him. He ready to talk to you? Wow. Him and him and asshole in gold. Eric Abadu, rich out the ass hole in gold. Shout out to him too. Oh, you know him? I know him. You know BC. That's my guy. You know, you know, I don't know. What's his name? We just got a phone earlier. The fucking the Southern fried marketing, BC. I don't know him, but what about it? I'm gonna tap you in with him. Okay. Shout out my boy BC. What do you do? It was his birthday the other day. He do all the label stuff. He do all the listening parts. Okay. He do all the fucking, you name it. He been in this, he been in this biz just like y'all. For a long time. He been in this month, but he go whore. He go whore. I didn't talk to him. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I met him because BC did one of his listening parties. He was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? LeBron like put it up. I'm like fucking they can put it up. And Zay Tobin was there. No, no, no, no. Oh, this, this was asshole. Yeah. Oh, this was asshole, okay. But Zay shit, the Zay shit. I had did like a, like a, like a, it was like a like, like a, it wasn't an interview. It was like a motherfucking, bro, I don't even know what's it called. It was like a live performance thing. You know how genius do the live performance. It was one of those, right? And I did that shit. And one of my managers, I got, I got, you know, Paco. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Paco. I got Elusive. Shout out Elusive. And I got my boy Rod. Rod is from Atlanta. Okay. I'm saying shout out Rod. He did a lot for us. He didn't did a lot for us. So I did that little show. Boom. Rod calls me and he's like, yo, we got to get together soon. I think Zay Tobin might want to work with you. Wow. Zay Tobin, we in some lives. They ain't even fit away with me. Yeah, right. I'm like, man. You still camping, nigga. Big camp, man. I ain't gonna lie. I didn't even like, I didn't even respond to that message. I probably still got it in my DMs. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even respond to that shit. Paco called me maybe a couple of days later. He was like, yo, bro, we're going to Atlanta. I'm like, for what? He told my bros, Zay Tobin just called me. I'm like, bro, shut the fuck up, nigga. What the fuck? Yeah, that's hot right there. They were like, they were like, nigga, yo, we fit a go fuck with Zay Tobin. That's hot. And bro, this is coming from a nigga like, bro, I grew up on motherfucking Gucci. Gucci. Yeah, let's get it, let's get it. Nigga, all that shit. Nigga, I mean, this whole listening to motherfucking lemonade and M listening to Future. So why did that make you feel though? What did you do? You like smiling like, yeah, nigga. Bro, I mean, this whole like, whoa. You're like, whoa. I wasn't even excited. I was like, fuck. Like, this here is real rush. This is real rush. I was like, bro, my life, my life just, just it. I'm done. No more rapping. I made it. Zay Tobin. I'm like, fuck. I'm done. I'm throwing in a towel. Yeah, yeah, nigga. It's on. But we get to Atlanta, bro. I swear to God, I'll never forget the first time I met Zay Tobin, bro. What you say to that nigga, man? Man, shout out to Zay Tobin. What you say to? You just smile. What you say? I didn't say nothing. Nothing. I'm sitting in the studio. And he probably don't even remember this. He walked in with a McDonald's bag. You're like, damn, he got a good looking McDonald's bag. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Because that's the first time I ain't gonna lie to you. You a star stutter. That was my first time I ever been a starstruck. Yeah. And that was my first time ever being around real, real money. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, these niggas, these niggas got it. Like, like, niggas be trapping and niggas still. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know all that type of shit. But like. These niggas had their organization going. And you know how deep they go. So what was the first thing you said to you? Bro, he told me he was like, he was like, bro, you got it. He was like, bro, you're a star. Bam, nigga. I ain't lying. Same way I did when I seen it. Yeah, nigga, it's on. I showed him my videos full. He was a play me music, play me a video, da, da, da, right? Played videos and shit. I ain't gonna lie to you. He was just sitting there like this. That's the way you do it. Processing. I was like, fuck you. He don't even like this shit. I was like, fuck you don't like this shit. I don't want to hear this. Boy, that nigga must have turned around. And he was like, let's go. You ready? I'm ready for what? Make a song right now. Nigga, I ain't lying. Fast forward to the story, right? I ain't lying. We went to the next room. That motherfucker probably made a beat five minutes. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. He was like, are you ready? I'm like, yeah. He was like, for real? I'm like, yeah, I'm, if you're ready, I'm ready. If this beat is done, I'll record right now. You know what I'm saying? He was like, oh, he's back. Go ahead. You were nervous as ever, weren't you? Bro. Nah, yeah, but he gotta go. He gotta go in. It's time to go. It's time to go. You know what I'm saying? He gotta, he gotta go. He made the beat in front of me. I'm in that whole Instagram. I'm not even writing music. I'm all like, this is great. He in that whole like, hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? He talking this shit, right? This is the story that everybody hit up though. He made a beat. I'm like, bro, is it done? Yeah, it's done. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. All right, babe, boom. Put me in the next room with the engineer. And then he was like, I bet, shit, I'm gonna step outside, you know, just do your thing, just come out and get me when you're done. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Did my song. I must have had, came outside to like, to smoke a cigarette. I didn't come outside to go get him, tell him I'm done. Yeah. I came outside, he talking to my manager. He talking to his friends. He just chilling, right? I'm outside. I just woke up on him. I sparked my cigarette. He like, bro, you done? I'm like, yeah. He was like, bro, you been in there 15 minutes? I'm like, I know, go listen to it. Like he walked in there and he was like, oh, bro. He looked at me in my eyes, bro. Bro, I still get, I still get weird when I, he looked at me in my eyes, bro. He looked at me in my eyes. He was like, oh yeah, we gonna work. He was like, you work just like Gucci in future. Damn. That's good stuff right there. That nigga say you work just like Gucci in future. Stop playing, man. Fake, hey man, listen, man, play. Hey man, how did you feel, man? That nigga saying that. Bro, I'm gonna stew up. Gucci in future. Wait a minute, Gucci in future and flexing foul. Stop playing. That nigga said you work just like Gucci in future used to. That's what's up. I was like, yo, don't compare me to them, bro. That's not allowed, bro. I'm not allowed to feel like this. Wow, man. That's what you told me. And it's coming from Zay, man. I'm like, bro, don't say that. Shout out to Zay, man. He was like, bro, he just laugh. He just laugh. He just laugh. He be like, bro, you got something coming. You don't even know what it is. You know what I'm saying? Let's pop in, bro. But that was the first day I met and say, first day. I never forget. How long ago was that? This was probably two years ago. That's hot, man. What, 2019, 18? What, three years? That's hot, man. You all built a really hardcore relationship between them and that. Over the time, yeah. And that's hot, man. And what's crazy, though, is 2018, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then the next day, we was in Atlanta three days, right? The next day, he motherfucking was like, yo, come to the studio. I was like, oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Studio set up or whatever, right? I'm at the mall. I'm at Linux. Yeah, yeah, I know what you said. I'm at Linux, mom. You know what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah. It's popping over there. I'm at Linux. I'm at Pure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You kidding me? I've been there. I know. So I'm at that hoe, and I must have had motherfucking called him on FaceTime, fool. That nigga must have had been like, yo, just go ahead and go to the hoe without me. I'll pull up later. He was like, I'm doing this little, what's the shit called? The sound check or pre-rehearsal or something? He was like, I'm doing sound check with Future right now. I'm like, what? He go like this. And show me Future on the FaceTime. I was like, bro, get off my phone. Wow, man. I was like, bro, I'm going back to that. Hollywood. Nigga, I ain't got me some shades at the Gucci store. I gotta hit this hoe. No, no, no. I'm gonna get me some shades or something. That's the conversation where you go to the Gucci store and go and get the shades and just go and just rock out right there. I'm here now. You know what I'm saying? I as well like, forget it. Yeah, I'm up there. I'm here. I made it. You're doing things that people- I'm changing my number. Other people wanna do it and may not ever get to do it in their life. And you know what's crazy, bro? I went to the studio, well, let me finish that story. Right, I went to the studio that night. I ain't lying to you, bro. We'll cause A-Tuff. And after we get off this interview, Nigga, I ain't lying to you, bro. I must have motherfucking had, bro, I made like 10 songs that night. Wow. That night. Wow. That's hot, man. Watch this. And that came straight from your dome. You didn't write it down. I ain't writing. I'm ripping. How many songs this is? A lot of songs. I ain't lying, bro. You be working. Working. Man, that's why I knew I seen it. I knew it. I knew it. When I seen it- To touch back on what you just said, though, not to cut you off. Go ahead. To touch back on what you just said, it's like something that a lot of people would wanna do and probably would never be able to do. You never be able to do it, right? I got back to Dallas. And have you seen The Devil Wears Prada? The movie? Yeah. You know what Aunt Hathaway was doing, right? Yeah. She wanted to work at journalism. They sent her to fucking Vogue or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like, yo, what the fuck? I don't like this shit. That bitch must have said, bro, you'll be, man, there'll be bitches in here. She reinvented herself. It'll be motherfuckers killing people to come work for me. To get that position. Exactly. And when she do it at the end, she was like, fuck it, I'm here. I'm gonna go hard. She reinvented herself. I was like, that's what I did. That's what I'm, that's what I'm, shout out Aunt Hathaway, I guess. You know what I mean? One thing I can say, man, the thing you have to do is value what you face in life. You know, I was at the Palms Hotel. I keep telling the story and talking to Nipsey. Me and Nipsey Hustle were just sitting there and talking. We wasn't sitting, we were standing at the counter. At the bars? Yeah. Or me and Bobby Brown standing outside talking. I value those times. You don't, and me and Machine Gun Kelly talking at the same place me and Nipsey talked at. The trip to our part about it is like, I'm not comparing it to what you're doing, but you have to value the time that you spend with these people. Not saying you put them on a pedestal, but it's an opportunity to step up on the stage the same way when you was like with Lisa Ray. And they was loving you or whatever. You know, like, man, she's beautiful and all that. Some people never get to deal with that in their life. Ever. But then to me, looking back on people that we've met and you know, you're younger when you meet people. So sometimes you're star struck, you're just soaking it all up in. But now looking back, I'm like, they've reached a point and they've learned so much. I would meet somebody. Now I'd be like, okay, so tell me something. I wanna learn. Right. So that's my stage that I'm at in my life now. What's crazy is though? Before you just, you know, chit chat. Talk a little bit. What's crazy is I didn't even realize that I was asking Zay, oh, I didn't ask. You know what I'm saying? No, no, you just conversate. I ain't even realized, like looking back on it now, you know what I'm saying? Looking back on it now, you know what I'm saying? I motherfucking, Zay taught me a lot. Yeah. That motherfucking taught me a lot. It was more about what you seen, knowing what you asked. More about what I seen. Yeah, I see that. Remember I mentioned that it was the first time I ever been around like industry money, real, real money. You know what I'm saying? I've been making billions, years into making, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Stuff like that. I remember, bro, I remember the first time I went to Miami was with him. Wow. You know what I'm saying? First time I've been to Miami was with him for his album release party. We was on the yacht boat party. See, when we went, we didn't, we're on the yacht. You know what I'm saying? We just go to Miami, my nigga. You go to Miami for real. Yeah, bro. You know what I'm talking about? Like, it's a way to go. Like, now don't get me wrong, we live good. Oh, you know what I'm talking about. So we looking at the water, we on the waterfront, are we in Jamaica? Now don't get me started. I can big cap because I'm an older nigga. Go ahead. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, to be in the presence of those guys and doing it on a yacht and doing it, you know, just money is something else. It brings power, nigga. It was to one point, bro, it was so mind blowing that I thought this nigga was your flexing on me at one point. I ain't lying, I ain't lying. Wait a minute. I did the same thing. I called him, I'm like, yo, we finna go eat or what the fuck we doing or what? Like we on South Beach in an ocean drive and all that shit was his birthday too. Like I got him a little gift of Charles Barkley Jersey. Y'all ready, nigga? I see you in your Charles Barkley Jersey nigga. But I must have had called him on a phone, I don't face him, I called him. He's like, yo, he talking like this. Like, hey, we'll be over there. Just, you know what I'm saying? Where you want to go eat? Just figure that shit out and let me know. I'm like, what the fuck you doing? He's on my O.E. up here with Gucci. I'm like, Gucci, hey, it's on my Gucci. What the fuck? We must have got off the phone, bro. I look at his Instagram here and that hell up top fucking 30, 50th floor with Gucci. That's what Gucci just got his TV made. Yeah, he just got his TV made. I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Damn, that's on another level. Bro, we go to the boat and I'm so excited. I'm like, Gucci finna be here. Gucci finna be on this whole. Gucci wanted there. Oh, damn, I met Gucci a couple of times. But Adrian Boner was there. That's good. Shout out Adrian Boner. Shout out AD. You know what I'm saying? They nigga like to turn up. Oh, you know he like to turn up. It's where a renowned that he like to turn up. I done found him in the street club a couple of times back at a lure in Atlanta. I done caught him in the street club a couple of times. We was in the whole, I ain't gonna lie, bro. I'm telling you, bro, I got some real like, if you in the industry. So you feel me? I guess, you know, I've had conversations with me and Camillionaire and the VIP in Vegas at a tip show. I'm that dude, I flexed on him one night. I come out. You feel me what I'm saying in your story. If I talk to a regular person, they gonna think I'm making this shit up. I can go down. I'm gonna tell you the story. We was in the gas station one day, right? And me and my road manager in it, shout out my nigga in it. We just talking about what we did last night. You know what I'm saying? And these people looking at us fucking crazy. I'm in the whole, like, I'm telling him like, damn, bro, that shit was wild, bro. And this is a true story. This is a true story, right? I'll elaborate in a second. I'm like, yo, we in the strip club with fucking, it was the Reds of Sean's birthday. So we with him, Adrian Bronner in the next section, Bowel in the next section. And if you know Bowel's there, you know Jermaine. You know Jermaine there. Oh yeah, it's going down. Jermaine Dupri. I never met Jermaine, man. Shout out Jermaine Dupri. I met Jermaine Dupri that night. He was in, we were in his section. Kicking it. How was he? Is he pretty cool? I was so damn drunk. I just said, what's up to him? That's all I could do. That's all I could do. It's crazy. All I could do? Hollywood was there, all that, bro, man. All I could do was, hey, my name's Flex. Yeah, Flex, what's up, baby? And then I went back to my nigga, hey man, I'm like, yo, what the fuck? I didn't even hear a dog. I'm like, whoa, we in this bitch. It's funny. Me and you, and now with Yo Gotti and Joel Santana, I remember back in the days being in that party, like we kicked it. These stories, they sound unreal to regular people, yeah. When I say regular, because they hadn't seen that stuff. People that's not in the industry. They don't know. That sounds like if I could've been talking about Michael Jackson. Yeah. I'm in the club with Michael Jordan and I'm in the club with Prince and they would've, you know what I'm saying? That's what it sound like to them. Yeah, to them. You know what I'm saying? I'm in that whole talking about Zaytoven and Jermaine Dupri and Bow Wow. Let me tell you something. They're like, who the fuck is this nigga with these? You big captain, that's what they think. I mean, my wife, I tell the story all the time about Idris Alba or whatever, trying to holler at her. And we was at a party. And I'm like, that's still competition. And we got pictures to prove it. It ain't, I go to Jamaica to a mama house. The damn picture is on the damn mirror. Don't tell me that. Yeah, and he looking now at my wife's boob and she's like, oh, I just love him. I'm like, why is this picture on the damn wall? Get it off the wall. Yo, that's what you know is fucking crazy. I'm like, this nigga try to holler at my wife. Like I did. It was crazy. I ain't gonna lie. And you probably hear it or you probably don't. She like, Rihanna? My God. I'm lost for words, right? Let me, let me put myself together. You look like Rihanna. You look like Idris Alba. Ah, that's messed up. No, I get that a lot. I ain't gonna lie. I get it from old girl, the one that, that Lil Fawcett's and stuff. She's like, she came, she stopped. She's like, I'm like, what? I just thought you shoulda. I promise you said that. I came on this bitch with a British accent. That motherfucker woulda been, man. But on the real, man, when it happened, I didn't even know what happened that night. Actually, not that night, did I? Till I seen the picture. I mean, what is this now doing? But I didn't even know it happened, because when I go to somebody and say, hey, can I get a picture with you? Because they was in the VIP. I'm posing and looking at the person. You doing your thing? Yeah. I'm not looking at him to see where he's looking. It's absolutely. You oughta see this picture, man. It'll never be in these walls. I wanna see this, man. You need to see this. Oh, she got it in her Facebook somewhere. It's cause I know how it feels. I was like, what is this guy doing, man? I know how it feels, though. Like I told you, I got a, you know what I'm saying? I know how it feels. That ain't the only time. It's been a couple of times. I won't talk on the other one. We can do that shit off the air. But the thing I can say is, man, that's a compliment to me. You know, to be honest with you, man, you see my kids there with TI, man. And you know, it's just stuff. Oh, those are your kids. Yeah, yeah, that's us. That's her right there. Yeah, when they were little. I was wondering, like, who the fuck is that with TI? My kids, right? That's crazy. How old are you? 15. You about eight on that picture of seven, right? Yeah. But you remember. That's crazy. 15 is 21. She's seen it. She was born, what, 2005? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's not crazy to you? Yeah, it's real crazy. Time flies. 2005. The thing I can say about that is, like, you see it right there with Benzino. Again, you know, like, this is stuff that we, you know, we raised our kids in our understanding business. And that's really what that's all about. And I remember, I always tell this story, me and Bumbi was together at a function where it was all business owners there. And I was like, man, my oldest daughter, she's like, I want to take a picture with Bumbi. I'm like, that's cool. So I go over there with him and we talking. And all my kids were with me and my wife because I got four kids. I was like, man, appreciate you for taking a picture with my kids. I had already met him a few times. And he was like, man, no. I said, man, you wanted the real ones. He said, no, brother, you the one real. You the only one I see in here with the whole family. So the nigga peeped it. Like, this nigga ain't just up here trying to do this and do business. He teaching his children the business. And that's what that's all about. He installing that shit when it like, you know what I'm saying? When they little growing up in it. And that's one thing they don't fear. He installing that shit early. Correct. They don't fear anything. Or just like you. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. They don't, she don't fear anything. She see it. She know it. And at the end of the day, she don't even acknowledge it. Like, like I'm not even, I mean, I'm big dog. Right, right, right. She don't look like a big dog. Five, six hundred dollar bitch. She don't even care. Yeah. Man, this is my kind of guy. That's my kind of guy. Cause I ain't even get to talk about this shit. Yeah, they say a big CDG. Say, man. But it's something that you get used to after a while, right? But like, it's something that you get used to. And, but, but what I, when I was seeing the video, that video where you were sitting, who orchestrated the sitting on the porch part? They, they sitting on the porch and you. I did that. You told him this is what you wanted to do. Bro, I do all my videos. That's jail. Wow. I do all my videos. So he sit there. It was that in Dallas or was that in Atlanta? That was in Atlanta. That was in a bluff. Wow, that was in the bluff. Zone three. I ain't no. I ain't no. I like it. I'm gonna tell you why I like it. I even had, I called one of my boys, shout out my nigga, Vino. You know what I'm saying? He's a back and forth Dallas Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? He was in Atlanta at that time. I'm like, yo bro, come, come here. You're going to be all right, brother. I dropped him my pen. He must have pulled up. He said, bro, why the fuck are y'all in a bluff right now? I'm like, fam, that's just what the Airbnb is. He was like, fam, are you okay? Like, are you good? I was like, I was like, shit, I don't know. My partner want to walk down to the hoods though. You know what I'm saying? It's crack heads. And then you know what it is out there. I know, but I've been out and her brother lives there. But the thing I can say. I told Zay. Bro, it's crazy because what y'all did and what you're doing, I'm gonna let you get back to the Zay story. I've tried to talk niggas, these local artists into doing what you're doing. And it's the hardest thing to get them to step out of their comfort zone of being in Dallas. I'm not playing. No, I look. Bro, I'm telling you, I be trying to talk niggas into it. And it's the hardest thing to say, man, won't you work with this person? Won't you? No, man, no, you can't do that. See, what's crazy is I ain't gonna lie. I'm real like, I'm real like, yo, if I'm gonna do this shit, I'm gonna do this shit myself. You know what I'm saying? If I do this shit, I ain't gonna have nobody tell me. Fab, I put Fab on. I did this for Fab. You know what I'm saying? No, no, Fab did this for you. You know what I'm saying? I did this so you could come here and whatever, right? But it's like brought them being everywhere twice. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I like it. The only place I haven't been is out of the country. I can't live in the country. That's all right, that's all right. I know that. But I done brought them being in Miami, Chicago. Me too, I love it. I done went to South Side Chicago. Don't you love it? We done went to Southwest, Northwest. I made it happen, didn't I? And we drove fast. We like, we ain't stopping over here cause we looking to, we just look out of place. We were looking good though. Staying at the Tide Hotel at the top floor, the W, wasn't it? I know it. Oh yeah, we on our own play with my wife and doing the best, like gotta be the best. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. That's good, I love that. I love, I love, love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We working on it. I got a tattoo right here that how I say love loves you. It says love loves you. That's heavy though. That mean it's like. That's heavy. You know what I'm saying? I like that. But hold on, you say he sings. I sing, yeah. I mean, I rap, I sing, whatever. You rap and you sing. He need a beat, you wanna put him on the spot. I wanna hear something. The reason, the reason why I say I sing is because. It's the way he, it's a cadence. It's not really, to me, it's- It's not really like R&B singing. Oh no, no, I don't do singing. No, this- Trace songs and shit, no. They're singers, they're singers. No, I know what he does. No, no, but what you doing is what's relevant to today. Yeah, exactly, exactly. What he does. I got what you saying. So the steel ballin' shit, the steel ballin' is an example, right? Exactly. We did that shit with Zay. I had that nigga come out. I love that steel ballin'. Brain to make it back. His manager got a stingray. He brought out the stingray. That was jumpin'. We parked that shit on the fucking lawn. You know what I'm saying? I have my barber out there. I'm like, yo, cut Zay's hair. What's crazy though, this is a little fun fact. I like the beat to that. Thank you. Thank you. What's crazy? Yo, I'm not gonna lie. We did that shit at the studio, right? And I had probably pumped out maybe like two songs before that, and I'm like, yo, I'm tired. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. Zay started playing. Ding, ding, ding, ding. He started doing his Zay tovin' thing, right? Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yo, I gotta use the bathroom, nigga. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I'm in that house needing to use the bathroom, you know what I'm saying? So I went to the bathroom and I just started singing to myself, just sitting on the toilet, right? Just singing on myself. You know, TMI. But I'm in that house just. I'm in that house. I'm in that house. Seven, seven, five. Y'all ready to go? It go hard, man. And I must the motherfucking head came out to the studio. I said, Zay, I got it. He said, how the hell go? I said, I heard the money calling. Hell gone he is. Y'all know what I'm saying? My money talking. Every job and I love the sound the way this dude sounds. And then nigga said, hold on. He must have switched everything around on his piano. He said, do it again. I started singing. While I'm singing, I'm like, oh shit, this is motherfucking right here. That's great. That's how we did it. I love that, man. I'm gonna tell you something. Let me say this before I forget, man. That money machine is so different than that song. That's what I was finna say. You know what I said? It's a totally different vibe. You know how we did money machine? How? I ain't lying. It's gangster. It flips the whole thing. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I love music, babe. I did, I did, I did. I did money machine in about five minutes. But you flipped that all hard, though. That whole you jamming out on that. I ain't lying. I was talking that good as shit. How you going in on that? You know what I'm saying? That was the first, the name of my first album was Good or Boy. Listen, man. When I listen to the other song, cause you get to Zay Tobin on there, I'm gonna go to that video. Then I go to Monika. I said, this nigga is awesome. This is the one right here. Like this guy right here is going places. That's what I told him. I said, this nigga flipped the script. We need fab on the show. Yeah, yeah. He called me. He was like, we need fab on the show. I was like, get that nigga to me. Once I seen him, he's told me he's a go check this out. I said, ah, man, I got to have this dude. This is the one right here. He got money machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It got to happen. That shit was fun, though. Like it was crazy, though. Zay wasn't there when I made it. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't there or not. He was just like, here, just record. You know what I'm saying? So are you actually signed today? No. No, that's my boy. Y'all just rock it. So you're independent? We didn't do a show. Are you independent? I'm not independent. Okay, cool. You see the thing is, though, it's like, just like everybody is. I'm in a fucked up situation. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I'm just trying not to talk too much, right? But I'm just trying to resolve my situation now. Yeah. You know, fix that shit, and then go ahead and keep moving on with my, you know what I'm saying? Doing my thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like everybody else, though. Like if you really think about it, the pandemic came, you know what I'm saying? Like I had everything set up, tours was set up, all this other crazy shit, whatever, right? Yeah. Fuck it, pandemic came. We couldn't do shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If it's anything I could do to help, or when you come out of your situation or whatever you're doing, let me know. I believe in you, bro. We working. I believe in you. We can do something now. Yeah, I believe in you, man. You know what I'm saying? Just like the Mahood one, you know what I'm saying? Geo called me, or he tagged me on, like he said, he had a list. Yeah, the Mahood one, how would I like that? He tagged us on the shit. I don't know if I was the first, second, the third person to hit him up, but I was like, yo, I'm ready now. Let's go. Wow. He was like, send me some music. I'm like, no nigga, fuck music. We're doing this song. You know what I'm saying? And you wrote Hood, Mahood. I just be rapping. I just be freestyle. He just go in. I just rap. But see, what's crazy about the Mahood shit, what's crazy? What's wrong? You want him to work? You want to get him on the spot, boy. I see what you to do something before. You want me to rap. I'll rap in a second. I'll rap in a second. Nah, I gotta be, I gotta have a beat for you. Oh, you don't gotta beat. No, let me see. In a minute though, in a minute. Go ahead, go ahead. See, the money machine shit, Zay wasn't there. He was like, yo, I sent you this beat. Or do whatever you want. Like, if you don't like it, whatever. I'm like, no, I ain't gonna pass up those eight beats. He was like, I got in the hell. I'm just hearing this shit. Man, the machine, my favorite sound. Whatever. And I'm just rapping. And I'm like, no more, no more. I'm not rapping no more. I rap the, I rap the hook. I rap the verse. Like, one take fully, you know what I'm saying? And I tell my producer, I'm like, burn no more. Shout out my nigga, Dustin. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, no more. How long does it take to come to you? Like, once you're hearing the beat. You good. How long does it take to come to you? Don't worry. I do this. That quit. That quit. It don't take shit. As Gio, we, Gio obviously had his creative touch on the video. Have you always been like that ever since you were a kid? No. When did it come to you? When Zay Tobin told him he was the one. That didn't make any niggas go hard. Yeah, once Zay said it, he's like, nigga, I gotta be it. I'm just coming to you right now. That's motivation. I'm gonna tell you the whole timeline, ready? So like, okay. Like I said, wasn't born here, you know what I'm saying? Grew up here, boom. Pops left, I bet. Then you got a backstreet. Had to do, you know what I'm saying? Walking to school, had to do, you know, working these weird ass odd jobs and stuff like that. So you weren't even rapping at that time? No, I wasn't rapping. I was a young nigga. I was young when I was 14, 15. You have a lot of people that we've interviewed that starts at 12. No, not me. Okay, keep going. So, there we go, boom. I mean, they how just thugging and shit, right? Pops left. I'm thought to porch, whatever, right? Did my little thing, boom, high school, I'm cool. I'm popping in high school, right? Motherfuckers maybe thought I was weird. Motherfuckers maybe thought I was cool. Girls maybe liked me. Girls probably thought I was hideous. Who knows, but they knew who I was, right? So I'm in that bitch like, I bet. I'm wearing whatever I want to come to school, wearing, I'm getting in trouble. I'm in suspension. I don't got all that type of shit, you know what I'm saying? That's the ones that are gonna make it right there. You know what I'm saying? Look real crazy. Finally fucking senior year. You know what I'm saying? Shout out my name is Toby. Toby, I don't, bro, I done grew up with, he in Nigeria, you know what I'm saying? I grew up with Africans, Mexicans. I grew up with black folks, white folks, like going to school with these white people and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? All that type of shit. But my boy Toby, we used to just get high, right? Motherfucking get drunk. Motherfucking get freestyle, right? One day Toby called me. He said, bro, we going to the studio. I said, studio, you talking about studio? Boy, I ain't fit to go to the fucking studio. Fuck this, you talking about. That nigga said, no, bitch, I'm taking you. If you don't got to rap, I'm going. I said, bitch, let's go, right? We motherfucking had must have made a song, you know what I'm saying? And it was good. And at that time did he ever hear you? It was good, the first time. First time. Did he ever hear you rap at that time? Yeah, they used to mess around, play with it. We used to be drunk and high and shit, just freestyling and shit. He was like, bro, you rap good. You rap good, I'm finna take you to the studio, bro. That nigga talented, he seen it in you. Where is he at right now? That's my boy. He's still rock with you. My boy got money, we do shit outside of rapping shit, you know what I'm saying? Already, that's what you got, everybody do it. Like you seen the videos, we come out, that's real. That's real money, that's not prop money. That thing is, though. That's not prop money, that's real money. You know what I'm saying? He was like, we in Texas, nigga. Y'all better stop playing with us. That's real. We got it down here, I told y'all boys, man, we coming for your juggler pay. See the thing is though, the thing is though, it's like, all the videos you see, you guys, yo bro come outside, that's all we did. That's all we did, yo bro come outside. These are our cars. Yo cars, yo money. I'm surprised, nigga, it's Texas, baby. We do this shit. We getting to it, baby. So I'm like, all right, well, like we went to the fucking studio or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, we count money every day, we go outside every day, whatever. You hear that, nigga, they count money every day. All that shit, all that shit. So he's like, he's like, bro, you rap good. And I'm like, I'm like 17 at this time, right? 17, senior year, right? And he's like, yo, like, you know, rap. I'm like, all right. I just made up some little booze, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it went. And he niggas is like, yo, that shit hard. I'm like, what the fuck? I ain't bad, save that shit, niggas. Like, you know what I'm saying? Them niggas having a good time. Bruh, bruh, I'm talking about, we so just young and just so fucking retarded, we're in this house. You hear what I just said? Free, free. Exactly, exactly. We all living still at our mama's house. We young, bro. Like we still kids, you know what I'm saying? Let's say, imagine this, right? We in the booth and I rap. One of my niggas is right here. I'm rapping and he doing my ad lib. And the other thing, I'll get playing with it. And then we go outside and then niggas like, bro, the engineer, right? He's like, bro, that's not how you do it. I'm like, nigga, I don't care, niggas. Like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, you know, I get it. I get it.