 Thank you for staying with us. You're still watching the breakfast on plus TV Africa right now It's time to take stories making headlines in our national dailies and joining us to have a conversation about this is professor Chris Mustafa. What could be a junior? He's a convener country first her movement. Good morning, sir. Thank you for joining us Yes, lovely to have you here to review the papers today We're going to be starting with the punch and the major headline here says 24 states can't pay salaries without federal government allocation budgets the riders here are 21 states to pay one point for a trillion narrow salaries in 2024 but generate nine nine hundred and fourteen billion IGRs government advice to boost IGR and Undo you'll be shokuto plateau Niger Nassarawa Adamawa cross river Delta Abia others affected My question is why can't we you know generate money? Why can't the states be able to generate money? You see other countries whereby the states are generating money for the federal government But in Nigeria the reverse is the case whereby each state has to go to the federal government to get some allocation Before they are able to do anything So why why are we seeing this? Does it mean that we cannot stand or each state cannot stand on their own? I think that the first thing to note is that your question is very opposite for My emotions and sentiments on this issue I've said repeatedly I've said repeatedly that Every state in Nigeria is blessed by God With amazing resources and which is ineffable. I have said repeatedly that This the federal Republic of Nigeria is a goldmine. I've said repeatedly that Every state should be able to pay a living wage, but unfortunately like you noted in your question We run a federalism that is pseudo we run a federalism that is false We run a rent seeking and a rent taking Republic Such that the states have lost their sense of industry and hard work. I'm speaking deeply It's a shame that the budget office would say that about 24 states cannot pay salaries when there is no state that has less than three million people that's point number one and states like Singapore states like Japan and a few of the very Well-doing countries today tribe on human resources That's the greatest world in the world If you were to look at the list of the richest man in the world, you don't have minehouse. You don't have people who own gold Gold mines or iron ore you don't have those who Have petroleum License or my now fields on that list. You have people whose business tribes on The world of the human mind the human capacity and so when we talk about the need to restructure This dysfunctional enterprise. We're talking about how to grow out how to make Nigeria successful such that The states that you have noted such that even states like a bohemian states like you'll be Are able to pay salaries and develop and we we had something that was essentially very successful Efficient and effectual in the first Republic when each of the regions had control of their resources They generated wealth like you noted and paid money to the federal government The regions were responsible for the survival and the growth of the federal government So when we talk about the need to restructure this country We're talking about the need to remove from failure The need to remove from poverty from despondency from joblessness and from the frustrations that we have today So I think that this is a wake-up call to the federal government is a wake-up call to mr. President who along with us in the beginning of this What Republic along with us talked about the need for restructuring Why so was the governor of Lagos did even when I had to test the will of a federal government by creating more development centers the two local governments and from 20 and they goes have 57 development centers and local government. So I think that What is important is for him to come back to that true South of his and say to Nigeria and say to the operators of this enterprise say to every political stakeholder that it's time to return to The intentions and the will of the 1963 federal republican constitution is now We need to have states if you like regions that are oysterers that are healthy that are that are growing world and Paying if you like 20% to the federal government for upkeep 30% to consolidated account for for national emergency and they are keeping 50% of their resources imagine If that were the case you will still have the Gold the cocosilos you will still have the pyramids of granite You will still have the wealth from palm oil. You will have the wealth from coal and and what have you Every state in this country has a competency to pay salaries and to develop its collective world Okay, well Another headline here is still the blame game that we have been seeing It's small headline top right corner. There is on the point in this paper It's saying cbn printing of 22 trillion naira under buhari fueled inflation. That's according to walaid The minister of finance Um, I'm just asking to be fair to the previous administration This money that was printed supposedly printed was supposed to be the one that was in the in the market So so to speak and the old currency was supposed to be mopped up and removed from circulation But the same people who are in government now most of them are the ones that's fought against it because they felt that it was It was against them and so this money that was printed is now side by side with the old currency That was not supposed to be in circulation anymore. I don't know how you see that Do you also believe that that is what fueled inflation and the previous administration should be blamed for it? 100 percent When this issue of the printing of currencies came on board a certain governor And you know him the governor of a dusted cried out And predicted that the naira was going to come on an under attack Predicted that inflation was going and you know, he's an economist several other economists like bis macriwane talked about the dangers of printing currencies without production talked about the dangers of Having too much money in circulation and as a school boy when we studied elementary economics, we were told that inflation is simply Too much money chasing fewer goods. And so that's where we are, you know The witch cried last night the child dies this morning and that's the conjectures that are becoming arrive and consistent Those conjectures are the reason why we have an inflation that has Is it gone to double digits and it's still rising? Those are the reasons why there's hunger disease or despondency and then what I do not like is the blame games because um Nobody can tell me Sincerely the Nigerians will look the other way whereas it is known and lucidly so that The past government was an APC government and the present government is an APC government It's also known that uh, mr. President told Nigerians that he was going to continue with the policies of the past government For whatever reason he said that I still do not know So I think that they lack the moral nexus They lack the moral competency to blame the past government because they continue, you know, and Having failed to effectively Do a forensic on what has become of our economy And making policy programmatic that we are researched. That's why we're in the matter That's where we are where we are today. And I think that the time has come for government to stop the blame games Put his sleeves up High up his boots and get to work. Um, that's what someone is doing in Argentina That's what someone is doing in even with the allegations of corruption in Zimbabwe That's what someone is doing in zambia. That's what people do You don't consistently continue to blame the past government Even in Nigeria has someone is doing profound and not talking so much about the past government in abia state You can see what alexo tea is doing and it's like, you know that abia state was looted for about 24 years But in one year the people are singing hundle. They're singing a good song. That's what responsible leadership and responsible leaders do They get to work and they stop mountain If if if they they are so sincere in lampooning the administration of muhammad way Why was shatima? Visiting him over the weekend. What did he go to do to thank him or to Criticizing, you know, I think that this we push to stop playing Elementary and being our politics with Nigeria and Nigeria's the time to get to work and stop the bling game is now Because that's what we're talking about with this whole bling game thing The there's a small headline at the bottom. It says minimum wage labor slashes demand to 500 000 naira Do you think this can reflect the current economic realities of Nigerians? Do you think 500 000 naira is enough? Especially with inflation rates that is, you know about double digits right now You know, there's so much populism rather than reality in this whole gamut of politics and politics and I'm speaking deeply So many states have not been able to pay 30 000 minimum wage and you're talking about 500 000. Where they going to get you from? Are you trying to take Nigeria the way of Venezuela? Are you trying to take Nigeria the way of Argentina? Are you trying to take Nigeria the way of Modera's inflation? Where are they going to get the money from? I think that Yes, I can understand the pain of labor Let me even tell you my own personal pain so that you understand how it affects so many people I live in an estate in Abuja and Every night for the past 10 days or so I run fuel so I can sleep I have a lounge and people are there between Where I stay and the lounge I spend I've spent over 500 000 on fuel in less than a month Where do I get the money from? Am I a thief? And then you're considering oh, perhaps I should just close down the business until things improve That's how bad it is. That's why businesses are closing down And then where are you going to get the monies to pay 500 000 to a worker? When as it were the government there's so many states that say only workers because they cannot pay 30 000 So I think that there's a major need for holistic forensic Of this this function. It takes me back to my opening. We must restructure this country There was one great statement by my mentor Madeline Dupkin Jr I said a long time ago that true compassion Is not in tossing a coin at a beggar But in ensuring that the ed device The edifies the chance of beggars that produces beggars is restructured You know and this word that so many politicians tried to redefine and give a bad name Was established and etched into the dictionary in 1946 Restructuring What we must do is a silver bullet that will help us cure so many of those problems. I want to say clearly and with Without any sense of publication that no state can pay 500 000 today. No state Even if you were to restructure immediately it will take The states going back to the drawing board and growing world Those that have other cultural work and tango to the blessed mess that it's endowed this country with you have The best arable soil in the world so you can plant and harvest three four times a year you can Grow palms and and and have them mature in four years You can get your cocoa fields back You can get your silos of grains and granite pyramid of granite rice and sessing back And that will only happen and can only happen when you return resources control of resources to The the regions and the states until that is done and I expect nlc To join those in the civil society who are calling for an overhaul of our dysfunctional structure gives Two acts government to pay 500 000 is like Playing the role of a comic act Yeah, but prof um just just to understand Do you really think it's not part of the headline? But do you really think that if states had the will They couldn't pay this 30 000 naira minimum wage Because I I don't see I don't see Really any state that shouldn't be Able to pay 30 000 naira minimum wage. I I don't know if you have information I don't but it's always been on my mind that if the states had the will they could pay at least the 30 000 naira 500 000 may not be Practicable, but 30 000 naira in Nigeria I'm good in your question is the answer They lack the requisite political will In your question the solution If they have the political will They can and will Pay the 30 000 naira. I think about how much you take for And I think interestingly in one of your headlines how much you take for Uh a security votes And they do not account for those votes So if they were prudent, you know some a friend of mine asked me and and by the way, Alex Ote is my very senior Brother and very close friend Alex Ote where they asked me where is he getting the money from? And I said that's prudence. That's the political will. That's been a good man with a good heart Governance should be about the people and so if he's doing what he's doing, it's about the politically good the the the political will and uh in those of humanism But you see most of us governors who have refused to even pay the 30 000 You know, that's why I said that action for 500 000 is like a labor playing the role of a comic act You know Those who have refused to pay the 30 000 Are not paying enough because they cannot pay But they are not paying it because they would rather take this money in the name of security votes And and put put it away in their personal accounts and and the likes They would rather Engage in what white telephone projects and not think about the people But you know what when you restructure What it does is return ownership to the people If you're the governor of a state and you're not doing what they expect with their resources They know where you've got the world from You do not have the alibi of saying that I put you hasn't paid you Or you're waiting for federal allocation. What they call fact No, you won't have that alibi because the people will know that the world Comes from their locality and it goes to the state and from the state a certain percentage Goes to the center. So people who they are leaders responsible and this Present spate of everybody calling the federal government and calling out the federal government Will change people will begin to call out the state governments You will begin to insist or responsible and responsibly the ship from the local government To the presidency because the resources Reside with the states that's exactly what we must do and then we'll get leaders who Understand that they must pay salaries as and when do So what can the common man do right now because inflation is at an all-time high If we cannot pay 30 000 and then we cannot even pay 500 000 since you've said in your words is a comical act by the label How does this now affect the common man because Regardless of whether the minimum wage is increased or not The prices and the markets are still going to increase Transportation is still going to increase house rent food every single thing So how am I supposed to survive in Nigeria pending when the restructuring is going to happen? No, let me say that in so many ways the process of restructuring will begin now and I'm talking deeply You know government knows what it must do and should do, you know The the politics and politics of playing games will not solve any problem And then also inflation will not come down except there is a requisite effort To improve on production and the short cut to it is declare Some sort of emergency in the agriculture sector, you know, Nigeria like I said has the best soil in the world You can plant and harvest four times a year some grains some products and if we go back to the farm But what is also necessary is the fact that you must improve on security of lives and properties You must protect the farms. It is not what we have to do where people have to pay tax Or bandits to allow them go to farm, you know We must ensure that government takes over the security of our of our farmlands and our society and the things are better And the farmers Have the requisite confidence and necessary for them to go to the farm then number two we must have A predictable and reliable economic policy. I'll give you a practical instance, you know this check push and check Economic policies that we see. I hear that finance has been Suspended and I hear that government is paying forex directly to a few broad change And I you know, you ask yourself what is the present economic policy of Fiscal policy of government. You don't have the one you can place your fingers on so I think that what you need to do to grow an economist to have a predictable reliable and Trust toward the economic policy A fiscal policy that people can trust for the next one week two weeks or so It's not where you have money and you're thinking of what to do and you say, okay Let me wait for two days to know what it's at least happening Now you should have a predictable economic policy and then number three Which is very fundamental government should learn to be truthful To the people it should learn to tell the people the truth. I'll give you a practical instance And this will break your heart we hear Most times news from unreliable social media sources And you remember just two days ago yesterday Somebody threw up in the space and it was it was going viral until the one of the spokespersons to mr President came to debunk it about UAE giving visas to Nigerians We have had so many of such things because people are desperate to show Drowning and dwindling the image of the presidency But I think that the time has gone for mr President and his team to tell their image makers that falsehood and lies is not A craft of state that falsehood and lies not a policy of state And then we also must understand that when the people can trust what comes from The government has spokesmen and women then it helps sharp confidence in the economy Then very very importantly for Those who think that restructuring will take 10 years or four years all he needs is the political will I have said repeatedly that if you cannot expressly Convain a sovereign national conference you can Convoke a meeting of ethnic nationalities And together with the members of the national assembly A 1,000 man conference for three months can Essentially Existentially and realistically Overhaul this constitution and return us back to what we need The Ibo's are saying they want out because Nigeria is not working The Odua Sunday, but who's back are saying that they want out because Nigeria is not working The middle middle belt is saying that they are dissatisfied and they want out because Nigeria is not working How can you make Nigeria work if we sit down like I said But I think it was part of the policy those who think have with the idea Of restructuring as a solution to our problems Between the year of our lord 1999 and 2007. So what is he waiting for? The confab of 2014 But Jonathan set up talked about the need to overhaul and restructure This thing won't take two years. It won't take three years It is just about the need for the repressive political will to get things working because if nothing is done sooner Rather than later This poverty and I pray I do not want to sound like a doomsday prophet But everyone has come out to say that this situation will get worse Yes, the mother mother the female presidential candidate said that much Alfred Rouhani has said that much several economists have said that there is no predictable policy programmatic That will fix this economy that longer Will continue until government Truly truly Fools his sleeves and gets down to drawing but to to get this country and this economy working But what you need first is the sense of ownership and that's why for me This president must convene a conference where Ethnic nationalities and the national assembly people will meet Decide on how best to go on this country decide on what is the best structure And then put it to the national assembly who are members of this Of this conference To to pass it into law and then you have a brand new constitution That's the short cut to the solution that will devolve power to the constituent units That will give the state control of their resources that will give us what you call fiscal federalism and then you find out that there are people who go back To explore their worlds and all these challenges all these problems will disappear Interestingly, I am happy that that is chiefly what uh impliedly Punch has said in its Front page, you know, if states are saying they can't pay salaries You must find out why they can't pay salaries and how to make them going on enough such that they so that they can pay salaries and that's exactly Um What we must think of it Enacts mr. President on his team To begin with Allocity to address the problems with Nigeria and overhaul our dysfunctional Arese keen on meadow sump federalism Okay, let's rush over some maybe one two other papers. Yeah papers and questions Um, do you believe in state police? That's the question The headline here on the guardian is saying deaths on accountable security boots may hobble state police plan Uh, you talked about it uh earlier on when we're talking about something else But this is the headline on the guardian newspaper. Do you think this state police thing is a practical thing that can happen in Nigeria? Why not that's one of the Who gets way out of the nada, you know, if you don't have state police, how do you protect the states? You know, I I did talk about just a few minutes ago about the meadow sump federalism double parties There's no federalism in the world that has a unitary police Where the idea of police in appuja controls policing of over 950,000 square kilometers Like us it's not possible. You can't do it efficiently and then in some times you have community police you have regional police you have uh police at state police and police at different sectors and You know, the sheer that people exude and express doesn't make sense to me They tell me that the the state governors will abuse the police process has the federal government Abused it if the federal government has not abused it then you critically has of control at the state level That will ensure that the state governors do not abuse it and then who says that you cannot have Like what you have in the united states the fair uproar of investigation You can have the fair uproar of investigation that oversees Investigation ensures that the state police officers are responsible and responsive to the constitution You know, I think that the fear of state governors controlling after all if you have a constitution that And spells out the details and how it must happen and then you critically as of control and leave us of control Then the fear won't be there. But you see now they're removing from the fundamentals and telling us that Okay, but that's and And how governors have been taking out our resources in the name of security votes would affect What you need first is the political will set it up constitutionally devolve control and Because you know, oftentimes when I hear yamoo that a state governor is the chief security officer of his state I smile, you know, sometimes it becomes very comedic and I tell you why You know, the state commissioner of police can choose not to pick the governor's call It's answerable to the idea of police not to the governor Remember what happened a few months ago in Lagos state where a certain assistant inspector of police I told the governor of Lagos state that he wants to be a clearance from his Superiors before he would take certain actions. And I think that was around Makoto in Lagos, you know, why am I saying this, you know in actuality In according to the provisions of the constitution the state governor is not the security officer is not the chief security officer of the state And you cannot have a chief executive officer that cannot protect his state So there is need for state police and then for those who are scared of abuse There must be levers and structures of control, you know, there must be layers of control and that's all you need And if you Were to and if mr. President and his team Strong word enough to pursue the process of restructuring You find out that some of these fears are not tenable You know, Nigeria is not the nation of cowards Nigeria is just a badly governed nation where unfortunately Ethnicity region and religion has made it such that One of the cliches that is possible today in Nigeria and the reason we're not working as a nation Is that your teeth is better than my teeth and vice versa, you know, uh the Penchant and the predilection for true petroleum patriotism does not exist because Our structure does not compare responsible and responsive governance when you have ownership When you devolve power to the constituent parts When you have true fiscal federalism When the Nigerian boy in Karuna muda Knows that his wealth belongs to him and that he pays the federal government Then he will have a sense of patriotism because he knows that the federal government depends on him and not the other way You know when the man who owns an oil well in a cat Whose ancestral land produces oil But cannot pay his children's cute fees because of his cute federalism and a terrible constitution Has access control of his resources and the state government takes care of him The local government takes care of him because the wealth sits on his ancestral land And the the component parts were to pay Uh 20 percent of what world comes from that land to the federal government and 30 percent to a dedicated account Why is keeping 50 percent? It will have a true sense of patriotism and love for his country You don't decree love for country Nigerians must have made to love your country and only a working Constitution only a constitution that you talk to us and belongs to the Nigerian people can't compare such love patriotism and dedication to nation other than that all these efforts are Getting a rickety engine to run at water and 20 miles per hour Is like a wait for Godot. Okay We have because we're a little bit out of time So we need to rush with some of the headlines. So let's move over to some political matters There's a smaller headline at the bottom that says ado assembly begins impeachment again impeachment process against shahibu And on the nation so that's on the guardian on the nation It also says 21 out of 24 lawmakers signed shahibu's impeachment notice So there's been this saga With the adult states assembly. What's your take on all of this that's happening? I'm not making any difference for the assembly. I I am Lampooning all that happens with respect the biggest business in Nigeria's politics. So those who are around shahibu have failed to advise him that in Nigeria on the things that don't rightly is a win at x all Scenario so shahibu shot himself in the feet when he became obvious that he wasn't going to get a ticket of a party All he needed to do was perhaps suspend his His battles with the governor until the the out of office Which is very soon, you know to decide to fight the party and then organize the primaries in your own residence You know, I I don't know where that obtains, you know, but that's the politics of a do state You know, I do have been over the over the years and at some point So many members of the house of assembly couldn't sit with the others because they were loyal to Damsu shomole. It's been it was been some tear tear of the absence And I hope to get it right with the forthcoming elections My sympathy my heart goes out to shahibu, but he should Expect that that will happen When he decided to organize the prior primaries and then get himself as a candidate of the party different from The tendencies and the pre-direction of the leadership of the party. So My heart goes out to him. I think that I've told people that I rather Continue to push for the restructuring of our country Then discussing the very many dance and the and the market square dance macabre that exists in our country We'll get it right someday. I'm a great believer in the Nigerian project and I believe that when philosophers rise up When great thinkers who truly care about country not about their pockets Rise up and learn to speak true to power Journey out of the nada to promise would have begun Let's take a final one from the guardian here, which is saying that Nigeria's survival Depends on food health housing agenda across states That's according to a decision of the former minister for agriculture. Do you Believe what he believes No, I I think that even the the man in the Let me say this clearly that the most illiterate Nigerian knows that Our survival is Dependent on what would do it over 500,000 No, I think it's about 50 million hectares of arable land, you know, america tribes basically on agriculture Most people do not know and that is why america subsidizes agriculture to the tune of over 40 billion dollars yearly, you know Our problem now is basically a food shortage. You see people lutein warehouses and lutein Food vehicles across the nation. It's happened twice in Abuja. It's happening everywhere. You see Respondency, you see hunger and human faces and and then you ask yourself how do you get out of it? You don't pump money into the streets. It wasn't the inflation. So every stage you go to the farm turn its arable land to Uh, a boisterous farmland and when we effectively efficiently and effectually or should I agree with the minutes? I agree with those who who have said consistently And recently if you like that we must go back to the farms or must grow out We must grow what we eat And we must ensure that But the first question like I said somebody asked me recently said, okay If we all decide to go to the farms and we're killed on our farm lands What happened? So at the core is a call for the security of lives and properties And like I said, yambo my fate in the nanyam project is on a trip My fate the things will get better is unshakable My fate and the fact that all of us if we continue to do what we're doing and that's why I salute your media For this incisive effort at bringing the news to the people if we continue to do all that We're all stakeholders in the nanyam project. It's not just about politics and politics It's about patriotism and commitment to great values I believe the sooner rather than later the new republic the new day And the new tendency that we're expecting leadership will come All right, um, so I want to move over to Um another paper. So I want to move over to the daily independent um We're talking about high energy costs and the major headline says telcos spend over 60 billion Naira monthly on diesel Converse for tariff review Another one here says Nigeria's economy not in distress Progressing says tinubu. So we're talking about the economy. We're talking about the high rate of diesel We're talking about everything just going up. So on one hand, you know, There's a sector that is saying they're spending so much. They want a review for The tariffs and on the other hand, the president is telling you that, you know Nigeria is progressing the economy is not in distress. What do you think? Yeah, I just add to the fray there a little bit the headline also which says that outages minister threatens discos with license revocation This same Discos that is on and that is on the nation. Yeah, so They are also complaining telcos are complaining. Everybody's complaining but the economy is working just fine says the president You know, let me say that I said this last Tuesday and I'm saying this again Foresued gas light in deceit and chickenery should not be an act of state. You know, uh, everybody knows Even last year in his october 1st Release he did lampoon the economy. He did cry that the economy is not working even in kata. He admitted that one So I don't know why mr. President likes to gas light Nigerians and take us for a ride He knows how bad it is. That's why kadozo cannot sleep. That's why the minister of finance Cannot sleep. That's why They're begging the private sector to help You know, if you can't sleep because there's problem in the economy you can't On the on the one hand tell me that the economy is improving now Um, how can an economy be said to be improving when you don't have light? There's light outs everywhere In a budget if nations capital you don't have light for 10 hours in a day The darkness everywhere and you are telling me about the economy improving I just told you about my personal constraints and cost You know, if this video is very clear, you can see that I'm sweating I ran Feel throughout the night when they break came we put out the fire to generate up Nobody does, you know, all the whole estate, you know, I don't want to tell you why it's this So you say, oh, there are big people there, but there's nothing using electricity after 6 a.m You know And nobody, you know, that's how bad it is So I don't understand where he gets the statistics of it And then if the discos or the jankos were are thinking of increasing the cost of energy because Uh, the cost of production and the likes have gone up Who will pay where they're going to get the money from? The the whole thing is um Permit me use the word. It's all Topsit of it. It's it's the tragedy of sorts So I think that the time has come for our dear president to learn to be true to what he says to us Nigerians are not deaf dumb and blind economy is improving and people Lutin food People are stopping vehicles that are conveying products and what other people paid for And they're taking the foods and they're saying oh what they need first is life And let me say this that uh, those who does like Nigerians must understand also That the holy book the holy Quran for instance stays and I quote But if you're hungry The first thing to do is to go to look for food before you pray Because you expect it to be strong enough Settled enough mentally to pray The food is out of car and food is a problem now The bible says they do not Uh, muzzle the organs and laser that you do you should not keep the the worker without his pay In so many places across the country Asus lecturers workers are yet unpaid months in areas and you ask yourself Where are we then rather than try to build confidence by telling Nigerians that consistently We're doing our best and we're we're put on Tinking camps and we're folded our sleeves and we've laced up our boots and we're we're working with you And doing everything to get out of this problem. You're telling me that the economy is improving What are the aesthetics? What are the statistics is the dollar? At par with the naira has it really has the naira really come up? You know, the naira is still floating. It's still on the higgledy piggledy Uh swing with the the dollar it's Back and forth, you know The economy it's Companies are folding up I just told you about what I told my friend yesterday that if he continues like this, they only need to have the lounge open These are fundamental issues that uh people are Every morning you wake up and go you have tears in your eyes because you have 10 to 15 text messages When Nigerians are asking you for 2000 3000 5000 Some will tell you openly that their kids the kids are not eating since last night so they can't go to school And then if you have a dint of humanism in you, you have tears welling up in your eyes because how many of this can you attend to immediately? Sometimes I lumped a nuclear chair. I'll say, okay I'll do whatever I can when it's possible because you're not going to kill yourself You know and then somebody's telling you that they can't I don't know how to do this to ourselves But I think that the time has come for us to ask leadership To stop Using falsehood as an act of state And learn to win confidence of the people There's no power in Nigeria Small businesses are folded up big businesses are threatening to go away and You must build confidence in the Economy you must make you you know, let me tell you and And this is where I want to close myself at my disposition If you'd like send 10 000 marketers to Qatar to Saudi Arabia If you cannot guarantee your security, they won't come If you cannot show them a definite economic policy And show them that your currency Matters to you they will not come. That's why somebody said yesterday on tv and one of your sister stations That visits Mr. President visited so many countries. How many have come here? They will not come until they can predict The direction of your economy Until they can understand your economic policy You don't ask me to come to your house when I know that they are rodents. They are tigers and they're lions everywhere I can only come when I'm sure that other people who you've visited and asked to come first have come So I do sincerely believe that it's time to build confidence in the economy and the people to win the trust and the faith of the people To address homegrown issues is now seven except that it's done all these Platitudes and dust lighting will count for nothing All right Thank you. That should be a good place to drop it. That's a good way to drop it to land I want to say thank you for joining us to review the papers this morning. Thank you very much. And let me say Amen to that. All right, thank you very much Okay, we'll be speaking with Professor Chris muster far one called be a junior He's a convener country first movement and we've just been reviewing the papers We're going to short break and when we return we'll be looking at a hot topic. Please stay with us