 Okay, good evening everyone as usual before we start the meeting we ask our city clerk to read the quote for the week Thank you The willingness to accept responsibility for one's own life and actions is the source from which self-respect springs Thank you very much and one announcement to the Public is that after tonight the next council meeting and thereafter every single council meeting will be shown in channel 990 Not channel a net because of the changes that have occurred Charter so it pleased convey that to your constituents also channel 990 from here on All the 12th regular meeting of the Common Council order, please call the roll Bowk Decker, Gisha, Hanna, Heidemann, Kittelsen, Cleonis, Meijer, Montemayor, Rindfleisch, Ryan, Sirich, Vanderwheel, Verhaselt and Wangeman 16 present forms present Pledge of allegiance that has all the Montemayor to lead us I Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all in Montemayor For all the minutes present now Thank You, Mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to approve the minutes second motion and second to approve minutes under discussion There is none All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries minutes stand to prove mayor mayor's appointments Attorney Chappell submitting the following appointments for your confirmation the water safety task force William Bittner director of public works David Kerr chief of police Alderman Corey Balk Marcus Evans Donna Wendland Karen Davis Thomas Butts Voo Yang and Lawrence Freitag Thank you, and those appointments will lie over Next item on the agenda is public forum There's no one tonight. No one to speak to the council tonight We will move on election of the Board of Water Commissioners President Hanna Thank You, Mr. Mayor. I move that the nominations be received from the floor voting be done by open ballot They have more than Two candidates are nominated the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and balloting continue Until one candidate receives a majority of the votes Second motion and second all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. I'll entertain nominations Thank You, Mr. Mayor. I would nominate Ray Hain as the Board of Water Works commissioner Second motion and second. Are there any other nominations? Or are there any other nominations President Hanna? I move that the nominations That we close the nomination to pass the unanimous ballot for Ray Hain as our New and continuing Board of Water Works Commission second motion second all in favor say aye Any opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations Ray. You're in the back. I and the council appreciate the hard work you're doing. Thank you Ray Okay, moving on we have two hearings tonight The first one for the proposed Assessments for water lateral replacements in Huron Avenue from North 11th Street to North 15th Street The second one for the vacation and discontinuance of an unpaved alley between Illinois Avenue and Indiana Avenue in South 13th and South 14th Street Is there anyone that would like to address the council with respect to any of those two hearings? Is there anyone that would like to address the council? Is there anyone? There being none President Hanna Thank You, Mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to close the hearings second motion the second to close hearings any discussion There is not all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries hearings are closed Consent agenda once again President Hanna Thank You, Mr. Mayor. I move that all RO's be accepted and placed on file and all RC's be accepted and adopted Motion and second under discussion consent agenda There is none please call the roll Corrin bowdecker Yesha Hanna. Hi Heidemann Kittlesen Clioness Meyer Montemayor Rinflaich Ryan Suric van der wheel for hassled and wongamon 16 eyes motion carries report of officers to 1124 lies over to October 6th 1125 lies over to October 20th 1225 pardon me to be referred 1226 through 1236 Resolutions introduced three 1237 by element Montemayor Suric Meyer and Decker Adjusted the pay range midpoint for all non-represented Classifications by 3.25% for the year 2009 Allman Montemayor Thank You your honor. I move the resolution be put upon its passage Is there a second motion and second under discussion? President now Thank You mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to file the document second There's a motion and second to file 1237 under discussion on filing it There is none all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Oh Bulk To file yes Decker Gisha Hanna Heidemann Kittleson Clowness Meyer Montemayor Rinflaich Excuse me. Thank you Ryan Suric van der wheel for hassle wongamon and Boren 13 eyes three nose motion carries 1238 by Alderman Gisha clay Eunice Bulk Boren Montemayor Approving security improvements to City Hall in the amount of not to exceed 38,745 dollars I'm in Gisha Thank You your honor. I put I moved at the report of committee. Pardon me that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion For a Consumption of fellow Alder people and public this is due to the police department moving out of the lower level and This is a plan to offer some security and replace some doors Frankly the back door doesn't have a lock on it. So this is to secure the premise. Thank you The the issue has not been before Committee so sorry your honor that is correct I'm asking in addition for a suspension of the rules for the specific reasons that I mentioned The timeliness of getting this done. We received several of the bids and so forth in finance And they've been thoroughly researched at least based on the timeline that we're able to and asked that rules be suspended You're making a motion. Is there a second motion to suspend? Is there any objection to that suspension? There is none that will proceed with the motion to put the resolution upon its passes It's under discussion and we have first Alderman Verhassel. Thank you your honor I guess would this be customary a customary to send this to a bid process I had heard some reference to a bit has there been an official bid process it It certainly could go to a bidding process I believe what's been what's happened is a they've done already they've called several people and I think the the matter is to Try to secure that door as quickly as possible. It'll take some time And then we'll have yes, please If we've done an informal bid process where does the 38,745 sit within the bid process high-end low-end middle I don't have that answer for you, but we could get a somebody Okay I'm going to take them in the order. We'll come back to your question. Okay about the bid Okay, next we have all one rain flesh in order. Thank you My question actually is a very similar vein Looking at the attached sheet VHF UHF radio would be installation included by whom I have tough time believing that there isn't Multiple vendors that would do a radio unlike some of the things that we deal with in the city where there's really only one vendor that can do that Two other items I do like to see that the city hall employees will run the cabling and the Well cabling in two different projects but if the Emergency situation would be to secure the door. I have a tough time believing we need to set aside 40,000 right now Proximately to secure the door right now I Would like to see the rest of this go to a bid process as well if we need to lock the door We'll lock the door now and then you know add the rest of the security later on as as possible If it's the wishes of the council to have it go to the bid process Perhaps best thing to do is to vote down the suspension because you need to turn vote that way You don't kill the resolution still stays alive and it lies over for next time So would anybody like to re make a motion to reconsider the suspension if not? Yes Your honor see you as my motion. I can Address a couple of points one being well your hero now. Thank you addressing a couple points one being Several these vendors are in the Wisconsin Purchasing system which already vets the bids for us So those were the easy one second the cabling is going to be done by City Hall employees for all these projects This is a this is not a massive undertaking Based on the timeline staff felt it was necessary to to suspend There is some timelines in ordering these things. I wish we would have had this Six months ago We just don't if there are any other members of the committee that have a different opinion on that than I would gladly pull back They asked for suspension of the rules Well, the suspension of rules has already been acted on Oh, this is why you need to reconsider that suspension if that's what you want to do Otherwise if you vote it down you vote it down. Okay. Next we have Alderman Thank You mr. Mayor, and I would just Piggy back on what the chairman of the finance committee said we actually considered Options that were about three or four times this amount of money and the finance committee paired it back to just the elements that We thought we needed now in today's world Who wants to come to work on the third floor of a building that only has one staircase out of it? when you work in the controversial controversial kind of things that People in the upstairs offices do who wants to work in a place like that when the doors don't lock and when there aren't panic buttons When the police are no longer downstairs, so I think what the finance committee is recommending I won't speak for the committee. I'll just speak for myself. What I think I heard us talk about was we paired it down to the bare Minimum we're behind on time And so we approved what we thought the bare minimum was to create a safe work environment for the upper floors in City Hall after the Police Department leaves. Thank You mr. Mayor Next we have my present born Thank you, your honor if I remember correctly from the finance committee meeting we've already approved the back door Because it was our discretion because the back door was going to be less than $15,000 and the rest of this I thought was for the rest of the the cameras And the rest of it, but I refresh maybe all of them get sure missed if the Finance directors here mr. Hansen. I thought we approved the back door I think that was the most urgent thing was the back door because of the condition that it's in and the rest of it Because there's maybe not quite as much of an urgency maybe could go out to bid But we wanted to get the back door taken care of right away Thank you all McLean is Thank you, your honor just a point of question. What is the police station supposed to be ready and What are they moving? Do you know that? Yes, the dates are Varian the last I heard was the first week in October and I would look and first or second week in October There's been a slight delay due to the communications room So we're looking at the first or second week of November now Okay You need other discussion Homeover hassle. Thank you It seems to be customary to waive the bidding process and that's that's why I guess I'm commenting here tonight It's not that this is a massive amount We're not dealing with six figures But it's the principle of the matter that we continually seem to waive the bidding process I trust that the finance committee has done their homework and has looked into this But I think it would be wise to stay the course go through the formal bidding process put all the numbers out in front of all 16 of us And work at the way the system was meant to work As you just indicated appears we have plenty of time to go through the normal process I'd suggest that we do that. I'm also concerned. Is there another bill coming this sounds like it's a partial Renovation or a partial retrofitting of the process. I understood alderman box comments correct Let me get you unless people came here. Okay. Okay. There were there were many options put before the finance committee The finance committee paired it back to I think the big elements are the panic button system with the radio that would go out and say hey Come help us It's the keyless entry the digital entry or biometric entry So I'll see the employees that are supposed to be in their access would be controlled by electronic access And then the cameras to record anything that might go on in the halls and things of that nature So this isn't the first of a larger Program we paired it back to what we thought Was was prudent and then if I might ask mr. Mayor if somebody from police the police department or perhaps from it Could weigh in on how much time do we have time we have six weeks? Apparently now if we wait till the 1st of November is six weeks enough to go through the bidding process and get the stuff Installed by the time we'd need it. I'd like to know that answer sir Mr. Tuja Lee, would you please come up sir? I Believe you you had a part in working with this plant that Mike There's a there's a sheet that I think it's in your packet that kind of breaks it down to all the components as All the move on could said the first two piece here is for the panic button Currently right now there are pen panic buttons within city hall But because the police department is right down there when you press it obviously it goes downstairs So when they move out those particular functions will no longer be working So you'll need to have some way to communicate either the fire or the police department for them to show up here So they can't assist assist Obviously the electronic access system This part here obviously is the keyless entry into the city hall here as well as controlling when the doors will be locked They will be Computerized so that anybody that's coming to the city hall here through the back doors or through the front door at off Our will be long so that we can see who's coming to city hall and at what time Obviously the cameras pretty pretty straightforward the cameras will be placed at all the counters where there is cash Transaction so the finance counter the city clerk building inspection and then obviously that and The assessor's office too as well For the electronic system that will take about four weeks for them to order the equipment put on their schedule and come into city hall to install The first two option we can have that order and it'll be here in about a week and a half You'll probably take about another week and a half for the IT staff to go through and wire up city hall So that we can put the equipment in there So all total if you put all that together will probably take about maybe a month to get all the equipment to wire City hall and to have all that installed and tested Okay, thank you very much So we have a motion 1238 to put the resolution upon this passage, please call the roll Decker Gisha Hanna Heidemann Kittleson Clowness Meyer Montemay or Rin Flesch Ryan Excuse me Thank you Siric Vanderwheel for Hassel Longamon Boran and bulk 14 eyes to nose motion carries 1239 through 1241 lies over 1242 through 1245 to be referred Report of committee six 1246 by law and licensing Recommending deny and beverage operators license number 25 78 Based on the applicants failure to include all relevant Convictions on the application the record of violations related to the licensed activity The record as a repeat law of violator and the applicants failure to cooperate with the committee and the criminal record Which makes him ineligible to hold a license my friend born Thank you, your honor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted Motion second under discussion under discussion your honor is Anthony Dune here tonight It's not here your honor. Very well, please proceed Mr.. Dune had two opportunities The second by certified mail to appear before the law and licensing committee. He did not appear and then also the committee was Very concerned about his lengthy criminal record that made him ineligible to hold the license So we moved unanimously to deny Okay On 1246, please call roll Gisha Hannah Heidemann Kittleson Clowness Meyer Montemayor Rinflaich Ryan Zurich Vanderveel for Hassel Wongamon Boran Bauch and Decker 16 eyes motion carries 1247 to be referred Report of committee seven twelve forty eight and forty nine to be referred Report of committee eight 1250 by salaries and grievances Recommended budget in a four point four point zero percent across the board pay increase for 2009 based on the midpoint of the app applicable class grade for all in For all eligible non-representing employees we have alderman Bulk you hit it first, and I wasn't quite fast enough for you. Mr. Mayor. Thank you I was actually talking about 1249 I just wanted to mention that there will be a committee of the whole meeting that's been scheduled for 922 at 530 p.m. To discuss that piece that's been referred to us. We're gonna have people speaking from out of town We're gonna have people from Probably from the Department of Corrections coming in and weighing in on the statistics This will be a chance for citizens and the older persons to get as much information about that That piece of ordinance as they can. Thank you. Thank you And all women to mail you next Thank you your honor and move to accept and file the RC and the resolution be put upon its passage Is there a second? Motion and second under discussion Vice president Thank You, mr. Mayor. I'd make a motion to file Second motion and second to file under discussion. There is none. Please call roll Hannah Heidemann Kittleson Clay Unis Meyer Montemay or Rin Flesch Ryan I'm sorry. Thank you Sirk Vanderwheel for Hassel Wongamon Boran Boke Decker and Gisha Thirteen eyes three nose motion carries Orders is introduced 10 1251 lies over 1252 by all of them won't know I'm sorry vice president Boran That's not 1252 your honor. Yes. Do you want me to go ahead? Yes, please Thank you, your honor. I'll make a motion to file document number 1252 Motion and second to file 1252 under discussion under discussion your honor. I Think it was two meetings ago For the people that are watching that this is Has to do with the residency requirement for department heads this document. That's proposed 1252 would Allow department heads not to complete their residency requirement until after their probationary period I believe it was two meetings ago. We passed a You might say a hardship amendment To this ordinance saying that if there was a department head for some reason could not move into the city within six months that we would grant a 90-day extension which we did a couple of meetings ago for one of the department heads So I I think this meet this ordinance from 1975 has been working very well There have been many department heads hired since 1975 And all of them All of them that to my knowledge Have been able to fulfill the residency requirement within six months, and we just passed a hardship a hardship remedy If that's the case that they can't move in so that's why I'm asking to file this Any other discussion? There is none. Please call the roll. Oh, I'm sorry open with the mail Thank You your honor This particular change in the ordinance has nothing to do with hardship it has to do with fairness A new hire has six months probation and then he is either hired or not hired So it seems fair to me that six months after he is actually hired for sure Would be enough time then the six months residency should be after that Because it would seem unfair to require a person to sell their house before they know for sure they have the job Thank you Next we have Alderman Boak. I See the shot at fairness in this document I see that that is probably a Good motivation behind it. I just wonder at that level when we hire department head in this city I hope that they they don't need that cushion. I hope that we've interviewed them I hope that the civil service board has vetted them and I hope that during the interview process we we feel pretty darn good about their chance to succeed and When we hire people from out of town at the director level at my company they don't get a probationary period and Things of that nature, so I'm gonna vote no just because I think that when we hire people at that level We expect them to be successful. We want them to be successful and and So I'm gonna vote no. Thank you your honor. Thank you I'm in place Thank you, sir. I agree with with some of the statements that have been made regarding fairness that It's probably not necessary for department heads, but I would say even for other levels of government It may not be necessary I sell beer for living. It's not a surprise if Miller beer Milwaukee offer me a job Not necessarily a supervisory position, but any position I'd probably have to move there and set will there's no guarantee that that's gonna work out for me But if I want that position, I'm gonna have to to look seriously at what kidding second point is the fair in terms of fairness I'm making someone sell the house. We have established already that the many points that we can look at Creating residency. It does not mean you have to sell the previous house off It means you have to live here have an address here and So we keep talking about the process of the real estate agency selling a property That's only one of many things that we can look at for residency So again, especially department head and the money that they're making and hopefully they'll be able to Something here to establish residency in the meantime while things if the down mark it happened But I'll also be voting against this. I think six months to relocate should be sufficient for anybody at that level To establish some kind of residency. Thank you Thank you Alderman of rehearsal. Thank you, your honor I'd love to see this come back to committee salary and grievance for some discussion because I think something needs to be done Because essentially the way it's set up right now We're asking this person to sell their house Before they're technically approved for their job. So there's a bit of an issue there that I could see Hesitation I would see with employees. I think we should consider taking the probationary period back from six months Maybe to 60 or 90 days and then allowing a certain period of time where there'd be 90 120 180 days after that Shorten probationary period. So I'd like to have this discussion back in committee. Thanks That's present born Thank you, your honor Thank you for your for your comments Alderman rehearsal and and the other comments But when a department head decides to take seek employment with the city of Sheboygan They know upfront that they have to move into the city within six months of their hire and They know that up front. That's that's a condition of an employment And if they don't want to live up to that condition of employment Then they shouldn't they shouldn't take the job with the city So it's laid out in front It has not been a problem that I know of since 1975 and I've been following city government long before I become an Alderman There's been many many department heads hired under this ordinance since 1975 and as far as I know There's only been one incidence where there's been a an extension asked for and the and the council provided that because because of the hardship that was demonstrated So I think of what we did a Couple of meetings ago more than suffices and gives the person an opportunity if there is a hardship to extend the amount of time Before they become residents. Thank you Okay, there's a motion to file 1252 there's no more discussion. Please call roll Heidemann Kittleson Clayunas Meyer Montemay or Rindflash Ryan Siric Vanderwheel for Hasselt Wongamon Boran Bulk Decker Gisha and Hannah 14 eyes to nose ocean carries 12 53 will be referred Matters laid over 11 10 25 are old number 1690809 by the city plan commission Recommendant vacating the unpaved alley between Illinois Avenue and Indiana Avenue and South 13th Street and South 14th Street Alderman Montemayor Thank You your honor. I move to accept and file the RO and the ordinance to be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There is none please call roll Kittleson Clayunas Meyer Montemayor Rindflash Ryan Siric Vanderwheel for Hasselt Wongamon Boran Bulk Decker Gisha Hannah and Heidemann 16 eyes Motion carries 1136 resolution number 101 0809 by Alderman Gisha Clayunas born in Montemayor Authorized a transfer of appropriations in the 2008 budget Establishing revenue and appropriations for funds received from drug enforcement activities Appropriation for fire department reimbursement to the Milwaukee fire department While providing a fire boat for mutual aid to assist in search for a drowning victim Meet library big read program funding through grant from a national foundation for the arts and friends of meet library Alderman Gisha Thank You your honor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion your honor To follow up one of the items is a $550 and 58 cent bill not a bill of sorts, but yeah, I guess it's a bill from the Milwaukee fire department during our our tragedy on the lake They took the time I believe with a staff of three to move their new fire boat which had side scans sonar capabilities all the way up to Sheboygan spent the entire day here and then went all the way back to Sheboygan I have a boat that wouldn't even cover the gas forward and back to Milwaukee not not even including the time of these officers and spent up here Just as a thanks to the Milwaukee fire department We're sending us a fraction of what it would cost had we had to maintain such a piece of equipment ourselves and And also pointing out how mutual aid works between departments. Thank you Although just to correct not to correct but to point out that mutual aid is not based on reimbursement So this is just a kind gesture on our part the city's part to take care of Some costs that probably wouldn't have been wouldn't have been incurred had they not been here so I too agree It's a it's an appropriate thing to do Any further discussion? Please call the roll Units, Meyer, Montemayor, Rinfleshe, Ryan, Suric, Vanderweel, Verhastel, Wangabin, Boran, Bauch, Decker, Gisha, Hanna, Heidemann, and Kittelsen 16 ayes Motion carries before we go to 1151 I'd like to repeat again to the public that From this the next council meeting two weeks from now or whenever that day is The council meetings would no longer be shown live on Channel 8 They will be shown live on Channel 990 and this has to do with the changes that have occurred at charter communications 1151 resolution number 102809 by Alderman Boran Order an adhering on the vacation of a portion of the paved north south alley between south 7th Street and south 8th Street And bordered on the south by Clara Avenue Vice President Boran Thank you, Your Honor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion Call in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 1154 resolution number 103809 by Alderman Montemayor and Meyer Establishing a water safety task force for the city of Sheboygan Alderman Montemayor Thank you, Your Honor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There is not all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 1143 general ordinance number 50809 by Alderman Hanna Greenflies Ryan Heidelman and Kittleson relating to prohibited and time zones so as to delete the no parking 8 a.m. To 8 p.m. Zone along the north side of St. Clair Avenue from the west curb line of North 6th Street North 6th Street West to 225 feet Alderman Hanna Thank You, Mr. Mayor. I move to put the general ordinance upon its passage Motion and second under discussion There is none please call roll. Meyer Montemayor Renflesh Ryan Cirque Vanderwheel for Hasselt Longman Boren Bulk Decker Gisha Hanna Heidemann Kittleson and Kleyunas 16 ayes Motion carries Other matters Attorney Chuck Adams 1254 submitting a communication from Alderperson Boren along with an article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on 9 11 await entitled more state employers freezing wages That will be referred to salary and grievances 1255 submitting a communication from Brooke Wendorf Sheridan elementary school requesting that a deaf child sign be placed at 1322 a Jefferson Avenue as there are two deaf children living there That will be referred a public protection and safety 1256 submitting an application from 2100 North LLC to resume property located at 2019 2021 North Avenue from class UI urban industrial to class UC urban commercial That will go to city plan commission 1257 a resolution directing a public hearing to be held in connection with change of the city's official zoning map for property located at 2019 2021 North Avenue That will lie over 1258 an ordinance amending the city of Sheboygan official zoning map of the Sheboygan zoning ordinance to change the use district classification of property located at 2019 2021 North Avenue from class UI urban industrial to class urban commercial classification That will be referred to city plan commission 1259 submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2009 and June 30 2010 That will be referred to law and licensing Motion to adjourn Thank you, Mr. Mary make a motion to adjourn Motion second to adjourn all in favor say aye Wow