 I had a chef's salad I had a sausage dog which looks like a hot dog, but it's not a hot dog Thing it's like an actual sausage. Well, it's hot It was cold because it's yesterday. Oh, did you heat it up? Yeah? I added I added spicy ketchup to it He did it up in a different kind of heat. Yes Scott, what'd you have? I had a Mushroom and Swiss from the habit Yeah, we're talking like a sandwich or a burger burger and it was great And I should have probably gotten a chef's salad now that Tom mentions it, but What do you have Sarah? I had a A Breakfast taco that is you know for lunch also perfectly fine Yeah, yeah to corn tortillas eggs avocado tomato arugula that Very good. So yeah, sort of a California twist on the breakfast taco It was delicious. I Had a mandarin orange for dessert Yeah, maybe you can have a Cantonese melon or dinner It's a very bureaucratic orange an English loaf Are there any are any are there any dishes that have like Like either linguistic I don't know under that while we do Daily Tech news show and we'll get back french fries. Oh, yes Yes Belgian waffles. All right. Here we go. You guys are ready. Yep in three two Dave Broadbeck has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Dave become a DTMS member at patreon.com DTNS This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday May 15th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from Salt Lake City Dave Broadbeck fan Scott Johnson And I'm the show's producer Roger Yes, indeed folks. We have a load of tech news including the translatotron a ban on facial recognition in a high Profile Western City rhymes with Bam Benzisco Let's start with a few tech things you should know Google announced new ad types coming to its mobile services search We'll have gallery ads that let advertisers display multiple images that users can swipe through ads will show Up in the Google Discover feed in the Google app on Android homepages and on YouTube But not on Google.com for mobile interesting well DJI Launched its Osmo action rugged eyes rugged eyes. That's correct Compact camera a competitor with the GoPro hero You may be familiar with that model the Osmo action can capture 12 megapixel photos 4k and 4k HDR video has electronic image stabilization and is dust proof shock proof an up to five feet Or excuse me shock proof up to five feet and waterproof down to 36 Freakin feet. That's pretty good It has a 2.25 inch touchscreen on the back and a 1.4 inch on the front with the Osmo action costs $349 and is available right this second fans of specter and meltdown. Please welcome Zombie load. That's right security researchers discovered four bugs in speculative execution on Intel chips Which they call zombie load one of the researchers Daniel Gruss told TechCrunch It was easier to exploit than specter but more difficult than meltdown Almost every computer running on Intel chips dating back to 2011 is affected including virtual machines It does not seem to affect AMD though or arm Intel has released microcode to patch the bugs Apple Microsoft and Google have Also released patches. It has not been found in the wild yet But while most users are at extremely low risk from it as always we advise you to promptly update your software Facebook announced that users who violate its most serious content policy against dangerous individuals and organizations Will be suspended from using Facebook live video for set periods of time Starting with 30 day suspensions for the first offense. Yes one and done other restrictions against things like purchasing ads will also apply Oh, let's talk about another vulnerability Scott Well, Microsoft has had their share of them over the years But also has issued a software update to patch a crucial and critical remote code execution vulnerability in remote desktop services aka rds in windows xp windows 7 windows server 2003 Yes, people are still running that windows server 2008 r2 and windows server 2008 Manual downloads of patches are available for xp and server 2003 despite the fact that both operating systems are no longer being supported In fact, seven was just added to that list and will soon be not supported Anyway, the vulnerability is a pre authentication and requires no user interaction similar to the want to cry malware Windows 8 and windows 10 are not vulnerable in this case Yeah, this is interesting for multiple reasons one good on Microsoft for patching something even though They don't officially support it There are a few contracts to provide security patches for windows xp users out there like specific contracts Which means it probably wasn't costly to create the patch since they would have to create it for those clients Anyway, but they are making this available as a manual download to anybody who has windows xp or windows 7 despite the fact That they don't want you to continue to use them Which implies to me that they think this is a very serious vulnerability the way want to cry was You know the the thing about these these kinds of malware is they're wormable So you don't have to do anything for them to infect you and then move on and start infecting other machines on the network Which is unfortunate because a lot of folks who use windows xp I'm not just talking about personal users out there small businesses and and places like that May not Bother to go download the manual update and patch their xp in which case they'll probably get infected Yeah, you knew you you say tom good on microsoft and indeed that's the case But it does point to you know microsoft could easily say well Just don't use this like crazy outdated version of windows You know we've been telling you this for years But the fact that they're like male enough people just don't listen and still are using that or for whatever reason just You know can't upgrade This is serious enough that it needed to be addressed Well, that's the part that grabbed me is that they there aren't obviously there are enough xp machines in the wild and server 2003 and whatever else That they have to they had to go back and sort of Work outside their normal, you know support system for operating systems. They no longer act 4% of the market, uh, still have still runs on xp. That's just crazy to me But I guess it's I mean that's a big enough deal where i'm glad i'm both glad that they're doing it But also It reminded me that we still have a whole lot of old operating systems out there that are they're vulnerable So good on that. Yeah, you know, there there are companies that have mindfully not upgraded from xp They'll they have internal software. They don't want to recode those people will probably go and download this update They may even have a client contract with microsoft because of it But it's the you know odd xp user out there who's just dusting off his old dell or maybe a small business That just doesn't want to pay to upgrade. That's the ones you gotta worry about Google has released an app called rivet developed by its experimental workshop area 120 Rivet contains more than 2000 free books for kids along with an assistant that uses speech tech to help kids They can get stuck on a word who are you know trying to learn to read and and maybe need a little bit more help The app can read a word out when it's tapped Or listen to the child's own read and then tell the child which words they said write as well as proactively jump in When it can tell that a child might be having a hard time sounding something out It also uses includes definitions and translations in more than 25 languages So this is going to apply to a lot of kids rivet is also available on the app store and google play store for free in 11 countries When I first read this this morning, I was like, huh, okay Yeah, I mean I remember when I was learning to read, you know, we had those sort of like it was like little record player You know like 45 records and books and it would ding when you're supposed to turn the page So you kind of felt like you were reading before you were actually ready to read and there was probably some Reading retention that happened. But this is next level Oh, yeah, like I I mean My kids are all fine readers now and have been through the rigors of Of their junior high high school and even in a couple of cases college course Uh reading material and they're just fine But had this been available when they were little and they were just starting to get Uh, you know reading skills even as young as I don't know My daughter was reading it two and a half or three In a really rudimentary way my oldest she would have benefited hugely from this and so I hope it's uh Something parents get a hold of and I hope teachers don't see it as like, you know Robots are taking my job because every time I see a story like this I think well if we get really good at this like really good at it Then who needs an english teacher, but we're not there yet Everybody calm down about this fake emergency. I just announced You created the emergency you now need to calm people down It's sort of like how I feel about google translate I use google translate somewhat often. It's not the same as a french tutor But it's definitely a supplemental thing that helps me I can learn as I'm as I'm you know as I'm studying on my own Yeah, I don't mean to suggest that this would replace reading with your child But this is trying to emulate some of the best parts of reading with your child when you read with your child You help them out when they get stuck you can tell like oh, you're having trouble You know look let me tell you what that word is or they may point at a word and go What is that word and you say it and this gene learning can do some of those things which Doesn't mean you shouldn't still read with your child But there are times when you don't you just let your child read on their own and when they make mistakes They get no reinforcement on that So this is supplemental to you reading with your child when when they're reading on their own They can get some feedback and and you know help speed them along Unlike walt disney's lady and the tramp bozo approved record reader I had that one I really had that one as the little book inside and the 45 that goes ding Well, and there's also you know There are lots of reasons that a child might be tripped up by reading dyslexia You know it's something that can can be overcome But you have to identify that beforehand, you know, it's it's different than a kid Just being like I'm just getting used to this whole reading thing and and you know kind of memorization of What words are like so? If if the app can help identify things that need to be addressed sooner than later, that's really cool Yeah, my sister who's a she has a master's degree in Psychology and she's super smart. She always has been and I always noticed something she was young She would read out loud no matter what it was and you could hear her up the hall All night just reading out loud and annunciating everything And I used to think that was crazy I now think it was really smart and now we have an app or a service or a technology that perhaps Would even aid somebody like her who swears that she the reason she got anywhere was because she read out loud So now kids can do it along with an app and it can tell you when you're wrong or you're right speed you along the way I was thinking of google translate. There's a research project at a google called translatotron That not only translate what you speak But delivers the translation as spoken word as an audiophile in your voice and cadence It works by not doing the normal three-step process Of uh, you know, we're recognizing what you said turning that into text Then translating the words in the text and trying to put it back together in syntax and the translation And then doing text to speech to read it back. No, no, no This just converts the spectrogram of your speech Using a machine learning algorithm to be able to identify like oh that speech pattern usually means this phrase So that it is turning your own speech into another language The accuracy is not yet as good as the slower three-step process that I just talked about But it's pretty good. In fact, uh, they put a couple of examples up on their blog post about this So here is an example of an input in spanish Larry me pregunto como me sentía y creo que es cuando empecé a llorar And here's what translatotron spits back out. Larry asked you how I felt And I think it's when I started to cry Now when we were listening to this in the pre show scott pointed out like a second guy sounds like maybe uh, he could use disober Up a little bit So the annunciation isn't exactly the same but you can tell like, oh no, that's that's that original guy's voice And you can understand what he's saying Yeah, it's really cool. I I uh, I would assume well Unusual google fashion the name's terrible change the name translatotron. You don't think translatotron is a cool name That's something I don't know some of that it rubs me wrong, but maybe it'll sound like something in like 1962 You'd like. Yeah, I think Lady in the trap By the way, we've buried the lead this whole show how tom has that record handy is yet another magic trick by the Anyway, this is a really uh neat thing. We've gotten pretty good at And also by the way the text of that translation I don't know if that was accurate or not, but the english translation sounded kind of nonsensical So I don't know if that's okay. Here's here's the actual translation here. Here's the spanish again. Okay, larry me Pregunto como me sentía y creo que es cuando empecé a llorar. Here's the reference translation This is the actual translation larry asked me how I felt and I think that is when I started to cry larry asked you how I felt and I think it's when I started to cry Interesting, okay, I mean neither of them really sound like the original to me But I get what they're going for and I think I think that yeah, sure This is a first iteration of something where um, and I have had conversations with somebody You know, we're both like using google translate and then like robot voice, you know Tell him what sarah meant to say in the beginning like you know, like that that it's clunky. It kind of works But it's definitely clunky. Um, this is you know, once this becomes more seamless. This is absolutely cool And we shouldn't lose sight of the fact this is a research project, right? They're showing like look what we did not Here's a product ready for you to consume yet. So I'm pretty impressed at the ability for it to just look at a spectrogram And come up with something that translates that well, even if it does sound a little bit like it needs a cup of coffee Well, I'll tell you who else needs coffee. United States FCC chairman a jeep pie. Not really He's probably fine He is proposing a clarification to FCC rules to make it clear that carriers Can implement blocking of robo calls? Oh, everyone loves a good robo call by default. All right as long as they Sorry, as long as they as long as a way is offered for our consumers and customers to opt out of the blocking The rules would not prevent carriers from charging for blocking services A 2015 FCC order was unclear whether opt-in was required or not Or not so most carriers and uh aired on the side of caution pie's proposal And a proposed clarification would be up for vote on june 6 so real soon pie hopes it would lead to further innovations Like and this is a quote blocking based on contact lists Which the new rules also make clear would be allowed the rules go into effect if they pass on a vote Which will happen again on june 6th I just got one during the recording by the way A robo call so it seems appropriate that it happened just now You know when I first read this this morning because I get a lot of robo calls I'm used to no longer answering my phone if any phone number comes in that looks remotely like my own because I know that That's what it is But they still get me every once in a while and it has become a real epidemic And I know i'm not alone in this like robo call Volume that I've gotten in the last two years is like You know 4x what I used to get but And I my carrier happens to be of ryzen if i'm going to be charged for blocking robo calls That's pretty annoying Yeah, I mean It seems to be a cross-purpose is a little although aji pie does go out of his way to say We would hope that carriers would provide this for free because it would reduce costs on their network to block robo calls Because I'm sure you would hope yes, you know Well, but he makes a good point, uh, whatever you think of him He makes a good point here, which is it actually is cheaper to just block robo calls Then deal with the fallout from robo calls increased use of your network for one thing And all of the support calls you might get from people complaining about robo calls, right? That doesn't mean the carriers will do it though. You're absolutely right They may try to charge in which case it's opt-in If if you if they're charging you because you have to agree to the payment If you don't pay they're not going to block your calls for you anymore So hopefully they they implement it for free Although john brodkin and ars tecnica was less hopeful about it than I am because he says they currently charge you For robo call blocking on carriers right now. Why would they stop? Why yeah, it's like, hey, do you want a better version of this carrier service? Then pay us and we'll give you a better version of this carrier service I also am jealous of anybody who's like, you know what I got 20 people on my contact list Where I don't know how whatever the number is. I don't need anybody else I'm just going to go ahead and block everybody that's not in my contacts I wish I could do that if I could do that my life would be so much more simple But you do get random calls from numbers that sometimes are legitimate and I I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that person By default, I'll go ahead. Go ahead. Well, and there's also third party software that can do that for you right now You don't have to wait for the carriers to sure and by default ios lets me make a contact list or My favorites list rather and so the favorites column They'll always supersede the sleep function where I'm saying do not disturb the little moon Um, so they'll come through whether I got the moon on or not That's maybe a way to do it But all the names you want on there that you want to get and then just put your phone on moon for the rest of the Time and nobody else can get in that might work. Yeah, I like it better at the operating system level myself Oh, I would too. Yeah Well, maybe you'll like this gentleman the city of san francisco's board of supervisors voted 8 to 1 to prohibit city personnel From purchasing and using facial recognition technology The ordinance additionally requires city departments to submit surveillance technology policies for public vetting The ordinance will need to pass a second vote by the same board next week to become final But it appears to be On its way. Yeah, I mean, there's no reason if it was 8 to 1 it's it's not going to suddenly Like five five board supervisors are not going to flip by next week. So it's just you know, the way san francisco runs It's stuff. It's not actually an inactive or it's not actually an active ordinance today, but it will be sounds like and Yeah, mixed feelings about it. There's there's two things going on here one san francisco is a famously liberal city And so it is very concerned about the rights Of its citizens, especially minorities and there's a lot of legitimate concern about facial recognition providing false positives And when it provides false positives, it ends up harassing minority residents out of proportion Which is not good. So so there's that concern. There's also the tech backlash in san francisco There's there's a lot of anger with the tech companies and the people who work at the tech companies things like, you know Protests and blocking buses and that probably fed this a little bit too Like let's slap down these tech companies like amazon and even microsoft who's called for regulation of this But they still provide it Who provide this facial recognition technology? So there's a couple of motivations behind this I don't know that banning it outright gets us to the place we need with facial recognition Which is to make it free of bias or as free of bias as possible And to see if it can be accurate enough to be helpful to law enforcement banning it outright Won't allow us to experiment there But the fact of the matter is city of san francisco is banning it That doesn't mean all the cities in the world will ban it. Uh, the uk has been trialing it So we'll get plenty of research on that eventually. Yeah, I mean we have a lot of examples of cities that are doing exactly the opposite Who are like, hey, you know, we got it. We got to make this technology better Um, and we're on our way, but we're committed to doing that san francisco is just like nope doesn't work Yeah, they they like tom says there's so much backlash right now I mean I hear it from people who live there in the tech sector Who are kind of annoyed at being the guinea pig every time some new tech comes along And this is certainly not the first time anyone's being asked to one's being asked to try this technology But to sort of blanket ban it in this way Seems a little rushed like I I think you maybe should just leave your options open for later when the tech improves or when there's reasons It may Sure, there's always a chance they could none of this is in stone, but Um, I guess I'm just not surprised they're being, you know, they're wearing gloves on this one and I think I get it Well, uh folks from netflix are going to host a panel at the e3 conference You know that e3 conference got the video about the video games Yeah, netflix panel is called bringing your favorite shows to life Developing netflix originals into video games and on twitter netflix did that thing where it very cutely asked e3 if it was busy in june and could have stopped by and talk and hang out and Promoting this panel and in the course of that conversation mentioned the upcoming stranger things game Which looks like kind of an 8-bit take which would be in character with stranger things now netflix has said in the past It's not getting into gaming So it's a lot of people are like, oh, you're not getting into gaming where you're doing a panel at e3 There's lots of ways for companies to not get it into gaming and still be involved in gaming One is to contract people to make a stranger things game for you And I imagine that will be the discussion on the panel is what are the best ways for us To turn netflix properties into video games without becoming a video game company Yeah, and they've already done like there's a stranger things game on android and ios that was pretty successful I believe came between seasons one and two Did okay, um, they're talking about more of that obviously a lot of people are going to jump to the conclusion I think it's a fair conclusion when they when they get up there will be both about their properties And what could come from games based on them? But I think they may also talk a bit about what they did with black mirror With the recent experiment of sort of choose your own adventure style gaming They did this with the the the minecraft game or excuse me the minecraft game that's built in there Now a lot of these are very um At least right now they're like dragonslayer for those listening who know what i'm talking about where It's kind of predetermined in a lot of ways But you may have points at which you can make a choice And so if you make a choice a lot of times it's very binary. You get one or the other Yeah That that maybe is the most advanced version of what this is but Otherwise they've sort of dabbled in small ways To do the city three, I feel like they got to say more than just hey We're hoping to license our cool shows out. I think they're going to get up there and say that but also We're now going to go This much further in interactive storytelling And it means multiple endings because we're going to come up with technologies that generate the results on the fly and give you You know, maybe CGI that looks like it's a real production, but really you determined where it went or or whatever It also also this whole thing kind of Points to the idea that e3 is changing Sony is not presenting this year Um ea is not there a whole bunch of uh big studios and publishers are not there And as a result you're seeing kind of odd stuff crop up this I would say is one of those So i'm interested in that fact alone just to kind of see what e3 is from years from now Because it may be a very different kind of show and less about poor gaming and more about integrated entertainment Um and netflix is you know Who who better position right now than them? Well, and it kind of you know, I think like okay Let's just say this whole thing becomes something more than a novelty like how will A television show or a movie That maybe you know that people involved in production say like this could be a great game like how does that? Um dictate the plot line and the story overall Right. Well, that's the that's the question like if they're just talking strict licensing Then they do it like everybody else does if you're making a game I was just recently replaying 2015's game based on mad max called mad max um about the time fury road came out and They when they do those sort of deals Wb makes the deal and the publisher and the developers get together and they sit down with the creators of the content IP holders and they say All right. Well, we think this is overall the kind of game we want it to be and here's mechanically What I think the players will be doing and then you build the game out that way and you make changes as you go And then you go for your release That's very possible We could see things like bird box and I don't know what all but i'm Unbreakable kimmy schmidt is going to be an interactive storytelling like They did with black mirror and they also did a man versus wild type one recently as well So they've been trying different genres in this interactive storytelling and the one thing netflix has been saying Is we want to do interactive storytelling? We don't want to get in video games We want to do interactive storytelling So i'll be very curious how this panel walks that line to say well our interactive storytelling will take you this far And then maybe we'll hand you off to a game that a partner has developed that you can play on such and such platform Yeah, and it could be both. There's no reason two things can't happen here um I think the bigger issue is well viewers traditional viewers like all this like will they do they want to have all this programmatic Kind of algorithmic choice making in in movies. Do they want to have their movies and their video games in the same place? I'm not so sure. I don't know actually. I'm not really compelled by it because again, they're very binary choices There's only so many endings you can pre-film For how things end up in black mirror so It's it's not the most dynamic kind of quote-unquote gaming scenario But there's probably ground to do more and certainly they could do more programmatically. You could do more with data flying back and forth between a user player viewer and and netflix So i mean clearly they think they've got more here to show so it's going to be super interesting in june To hear what they actually have to say on stage Well, folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Don't forget you can subscribe to at daily tech headlines.com Also, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You're the best submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com If you hang out on facebook join our group if you haven't already facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show What's in the mailbag? Oh tom i'm glad you asked uh, so on gdi yesterday We uh, we we mentioned that my my next live with it segment Which is me living with new technology for three months is going to be Smart bulbs and they came today in the mail in fact Oh, yeah, that was bad. I know we got we got four phillips hues The whites the whites and then we got and tom remind me how I say lithics life acts life acts We got two life axes So we're we're gonna we're gonna test a couple models out And i'm really excited about this because I don't have any smart bulbs never have And now I will uh, and we got some really good feedback I just want to read a couple the first one comes from Todd Todd says I recommend getting the hue colored lights instead of the just white lights a little too late for that Todd but Todd says having the ability to set colors really expands the ability of smart lights I have some 16 in my house so I can speak with some authority I use some of them as wake-up routines to simulate a sunrise Where they start as red and they're dim and they gradually change to bright And then slightly bluish white light That's kind of cool whites can you can dim and do different color temperatures? I think with they just can't turn red It's yeah, they're yeah red life x ones. I believe can So you've got a couple options. All right, cool That charlie dude also weighed in and said I have three or four different brands of wi-fi bulbs in my house My fave is the kree bulb. They're cheap. They don't randomly disconnect I've found that the g bulbs do that They have a good range and work with our wink to hub I heard they work directly with echo as well, but I haven't tried that yet Yeah, we got we got a good little experiment going on here So I'm just not involved in nova cork kree bulbs. Probably are fine All Avengers joke nice We also got mike the police officer writing in with a full description of his thoughts on security systems as a police officer We'll have the full thing in the show notes if you want to read it. It's really good But here's a summary He says he's responded to thousands of residential alarms in his 10 plus years as a cop and can only remember one in all of those 10 years Where the alarm indicated an actual break in he's like they're almost always false alarms He says even if they're real most burglars are gone before police response can happen Anyway, especially since most burglars come in the late morning when people are at work and nobody sees them around He does say that alarms that provide video and audio are more helpful Writing this newer wave of connected cameras essentially lets you be your own monitor and act more quickly when contacting law enforcement No monitoring service as a middleman and provide descriptions to responding officers I own both a ring doorbell and three blink xt cameras He also doesn't put much stock in ring's social networking features And he adds peace of mind is worth whatever you're willing to pay for it And I would never tell someone to not purchase whatever makes them feel safest But I want to know the best burglary deterrent get a dog I can't remember ever working a single residential burglary where the victim owned a dog plus. They're cute. Love you and junk Oh You're speaking my language, sir. Thank you. I feel like Otis would be like hi. Let's make dinner But yeah, uh, don't tell the burglars that Thank you, mike, uh for sharing your insights as a police officer really appreciate that Absolutely. I I I always sort of wondered, you know, I I've never had a alarm system Um, I actually have but I've never like paid for it to be engaged I always wonder like, okay. Well, I would know after the fact that this happened But I mean, are you gonna catch somebody, you know a perp in the middle of their crime? Unlikely because you they're not gonna like sit down and watch some tv while they're at your house Or they will end up making news on reddit or that Well, thanks everybody who writes in every day. You're the best and also thanks to scott johnson for being so wonderful scott What's been going on the last week? Well, that's very nice for you to say. Well, there's a lot going on Including we talked about games coming up and we talked about e3 Well, if you want to get a great preview of what's coming at e3 Make sure you check out the mvgb feed from patrick beijon myself. That's the monthly video game briefing at frogpants.com Slash mvgb. It's part of the dts network and really worth your time Especially if you're just a a casual tech minded gamer who likes to follow the industry We cover the big stuff On that show and we got that big preview coming up But of course patrick and I are planning all kinds of e3 coverage as we do every year So keep an eye on that. You can also find me on twitter over there at scott johnson Folks if you are like wait live with it gdi. What's all that? 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Why do you have this for real? I know you kind of went and found it before the show because there's no way it was when they reached I know I went and found it during the show because I forgot to go get it before the show Where what where do you like how is this all like in the same room? I'm like, I think it might be right here But no but the wizard of awes like that's a that's a long audio. It's obviously a bridged for the version. Oh, okay. All right I remember having great lines of kansas a little girl named dorthy lived with her aunt m one day He was walking home with a little drug soda. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's yeah No, I I I do remember back in the day. It was like you'd have little 45s You know and it would ding and then it would tell you when to flip The 45 over, you know, because they couldn't fit the whole thing on one side And there was one that I had I don't know why my parents got it for me, but you know that story the fox and the hound Well, well, it doesn't end well It's a real tragedy of a kid's story And I remember like it was like something where at the end of it, you know, I'd be beside myself sobbing And finally my parents were like, okay, we're not gonna we're not we're not gonna We're not gonna play the fox and the hound anymore It was a snow white or whatever it is. You're you know, the other stuff you're listening to it was as harsh as bambi in the end that Oh Just brutal My old yeller, uh 45 record. There you go. Same idea Where the red fern grows you should get the where where the red fern grows Walking dead Yeah You know the shiny and for kids it's a bridged Little Jackie was all working dope. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh, we got titles, uh, google's riveting reading app Uh, still matching when xp in 2019 Also good riveting and writing Uh, just to the translatotron I like all of these. Yeah auto blocking robo calls robo blocking robo calls Uh, put your phone on the moon Bamsam, frisco Bamsam, frisco. No, bam. Well, I remember when I was like it's a Bamsam risco Uh, netflix plays games with expectations. Uh, yeah, I don't To the translatotron sticks out to me, but I could go with any of these I like that one. Yeah Yeah, I like that. I like the old time radio sound of it That'll work And then for good day internet we have one submission on here I'm so fancy Wait, it was Who said who said they were fancy? I think that it was submitted when we were having the uh fancy uh fancy department store Oh, okay. No Montgomery ward right Very fancy. Hmm We could have um chef salad. I don't know You know, it always bothered me like A chef salad. I know what's in a chef salad. Why is it called that? Depends on the chef. Can we talk about this recently? I feel like we we kicked this idea I don't think we came here. I don't think I did maybe it was while you're out We were talking about it. It's possible. Yeah, okay I just feel like, you know, that's been a little presumptuous I feel like the idea is whatever the chef had laying around he would chop up and put in a salad Oh, this actually does sound kind of familiar. Maybe we did talk about this. Are you hungry? Well, I can whip you It should be called the everything but the kitchen sink salad then Not the chef's everything and the kitchen sink. So right because sometimes you get a little porcelain in your salads Right. It's good for your teeth. Why does this say moan on this? That of crouton Little gritty today my chef salad I don't know. I just I know a few chefs and it's like It really depends on what like, I mean being a good chef does not mean like, oh, this is the sort of thing that I do it like It's so It's like saying you're a good podcaster. What's like, well, what's the content? What's the content of the salad? Chef salad best podcast Right. Yeah, the one that you'll listen to from start to finish Hey, so you know how um a while ago I we were talking about me using my old sonos speakers to connect to my tv to maybe be a You know, kind of like stereo input and it was somewhat confusing as to how that would work I've tried many options None of them work. However Even though the sonos one unfortunately can not be used directly into my tv the sonos beam can And then my two play threes which are the speakers in question Can be connected to the beam as rare speakers So I actually have I mean it would only be 3.1 surround But it would actually be more surround than I had before because I used to have all three just pointed at me So I think that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, I like that 3.1's not bad Yeah, no not at all and I mean and my living room is not a big room, you know, it's like I don't I don't even need to you know have anything on particularly loud But I love the idea of having stuff behind me I do have issues with calling 3.1 surround because you don't have any rear speakers So it's not really surround. Well, but they would be it would be the beam Oh, you'd be my front speaker and my two plays would be It would be quadrophonic because your beam is a stereo triangular Surround you just need to put it in the van with shag carpeting and cruise cruise the boulevard And I'm Well, because I just feel bad because I'm like these are nice speakers, but they're not smart speakers, you know Like it's like like why doesn't sonos let me use these just passively But I think the beam is that I think that's I think that's the call Yeah, it sounds like Figured if anybody has better idea, let me know, but I think that's what we're going to do I just feedback at daily tech news show dot com I can't get anything fancy until my kids are older and I'm pretty sure they won't drag a speaker on top of them It's my only concern Well, that's a downer I'm sorry. Oh no, I mean just it's one of those things where you just like I want tower speakers instead of like instead of the soundbar I have for my tv, but The tower speakers are relatively heavy things right 40 50 pounds a billion which I mean I got I got rid of my nice Bowers and Wilkins speakers Well, I gave them to a friend who had had just gotten a new house And so I knew that he and his wife could use them, but but yeah, I mean they were they were huge they were beautiful but they were Almost more than I needed and they actually like didn't I mean you would have to have a pretty large wall You know to have like a tv mounted and the speakers Enough on the side of them to make sense and it not look weird, but yeah, I mean they were Extremely heavy Without fail like the hardest thing anytime I moved the movers would be like I just I don't prioritize speaker tech enough. I just don't bother with it And I probably I just feel like I feel like for what I want Everything is just small now like I don't need the big thing even though it looks cool. I don't need it It's just hard to find a very musical base that you can get that you can buy that's like under 1200 bucks Yeah, that's that's but that's like a subwoofer because that's always been my issues like I can get away with like my my debt these speakers I have on my desktop are like These wolf wharfdale 8.1s from 12 years ago. They work pretty well, but they bought them out at 55 Hertz, but I mean are you like going like deep bass like well, that's the thing Typically your bass bass Might kind of get you feel it. He's rumbling it right now No, but I had I had a subwoofer too and like half the time I'd be like too loud Yeah, you know if you want to subwoofer you want it to least go at least to 35 Hertz or lower because Certain instruments tend to bottom out much lower like a like a like a bass or feel this in a bass bass But the thing is you want a larger subwoofer because Volume isn't the same thing as how low it goes or how how well you can hear it If you have a large physically large like a 10 inch subwoofer or larger You can get away with a lower volume on it and you could still hear it Yeah, because he can propagate the way I agree. It's having a sub, you know, if if it works with your setup is always better But um, it can also like Shake your house. Oh, yeah, you know, which is some people want that. I don't really want that I just want a house is a rock and you better bring something to eat because I'm watching Just come on in said We're binging some Netflix show I'm binging the Marvel Cinematic Universe. How many how many of those punches by captain america kick you out of the seat I could do this all day. Yeah, you could do this all day and he says I know You're so awesome captain america Captain america norm, uh, norman All right, norman. Yes, it's got an email from someone named norman. I meant to say roger Wait a minute. Is it because I look like norman from what's his name? No, it's because no You're welcome at all times like norm from cheers. Yeah, not norm not norman jam, but so the heavy set guy that Formed a divot in the bar because I literally got an email from someone named norman and I was looking at it while I was trying to say That's fine. I'm just teasing you. But anyway, uh Uh, how forgot I was gonna ask you What was it about? Oh, did you have time to go see it yet? Have you seen that game yet? Yes. Oh good What's your verdict because I know sometimes it's a fun movie I will I will say it's a fun movie All right If you this is the problem if you think about the movie real hard you start the plot holes Really kind of Get annoying like why don't they do this That's the entire marvel of but that's the thing like if you treat if you treat the marvel cinematic universe as a theme park ride Yeah, go on it to have fun. I mean I treat marvel comics that way too. Well, yeah, well, that's you know, it's It's it's escapism. It's fun. You know, it's not a great movie It's a very fun movie and if you want to like have fun for a weekend like, you know Like for two two and a half hours. It's it's a great way to spend you like enjoying yourself over quality Roger says see this movie. Yeah, exactly Listen, you know, I was miserable, but it was great. It's not really the On the rare occasion when I go to a 7-eleven, I'll get an icy Now I know it's bad for you and generally the sugar wears off too quickly and you get into that Slump when your blood sugar level goes down after being spiked. But while you drink it, it's some it's great Well, Lucy wants to say she's more of a dc gal Oh, really? That girl There's a cinematic universe that took a left turn and just fell into a ravine Do you hear that Lucy? She says I reject I reject your opinion people like that shazam quite a bit Lucy, you know for those on audio And you know, and what's weird is from what I understand shazam is like the exception that proves the rule Yeah, maybe. I mean Wonder Woman was cool. That had some moments Wonder Woman was really good. Yeah I think what my biggest problem with with the the dc cinematic universe is ever since like nolans batman They've all tried to be like this very gritty You know sepia toned universe And it's just like it doesn't feel it doesn't have that fun whimsical aspect Like Like one of the gritty undercurrent for you Well, one of the great things about Iron Man when it's first done is they show the whole process of him building the suit and learning And you laugh along with him as he's like just doing all these like things that you would Possibly do as well. Yeah And folks if you want to laugh along with us as we talk about how we build the show Stick around audio folks. There's more of that to come video folks. Thanks for watching