 Well, I mean happening hang on hang on right out of the gate. Yeah, but to be fair We were like we're right. We're right on time like things aren't too late You know, I mean, we mean right on time. Oh, did we start on time? Yeah, so, you know, if you're I well I mean, we still have one minute to go, but if you're five seconds, what's that? Thanks. Thanks, Ryan. That's fantastic. Thank you Ryan. We love love the hair's being split Dude, so Ryan you liked my my thumbnail for this one Yeah, I thought it was very very funny. Yeah, very amusing Yeah, what would I say again? SLS Well, cuz I was trying to figure actually I sat there for a hot minute trying to figure out because last week I was like SLS is gonna go through a damp dress. Right cuz last week The it was yeah, I don't like the sound of that It's like a moist moist. Do you think a moist dress? You think a moist dress sounds better than damp dress? No, not at all. That's why I said it No, so Okay, so I I think yeah, so that's the joke, right? But like things have changed since last week a little bit Still trying to figure out your microphone. No, I got it. I believe in you. I'm an adult So what so anyone help me understand what happened here? Why why were we willing to do a damp dress last week? But now we're like no, no, we're gonna get undressed That's the joke I was gonna say oh, it's a dry dress, but that's a different thing. That's a different thing and that's not what they're doing Maybe we're dressing down Dressing down. They're getting it. Well. Yeah, they are getting dressing down. Aren't they that's true So what what what happened like why why are we no longer willing to do a damp dress? S I would just stay healthy. You need to go on walks and SLS it's been in the pad for a while like that's it's been standing there for a very long time It's they just need to take it on a little walk back to the VAB and back again. It's just is it like a healthy Do you do you have a leash on the on the on the vehicle? It's kind of like It's just instead of instead of pulling it it like Sit on it and then it and then it walks back to the VAB, you know But really like why what did I miss because I was you'll forgive me. I was a little heads down this week I keep I cannot figure out why yeah, I mean something must have changed There's there's they wouldn't just Yeah No, no, everyone's like no, no the way I understand it is they've just got so many Problems internal and external like problems on SLS problems with GSE problems with a Nitrogen supplier. It's just better if they can just roll it back to the VAB Sort out all the problems there roll it back out and do it flawlessly It's probably just the most straightforward way to do it Hold on you just glossed over something there and do it flawlessly Do you do you think this is this is a brand-new rocket? That's true. I don't feel like that is Yeah, exactly like I don't feel like Any new rocket going to the pad is gonna be like, oh, well, we'll just roll it back and then we'll fix all of the issues Yeah, it's no big deal. It's a huge issue so far All right, what so with this What do we think yeah, I asked last you know last week what we thought on launch times How about now? What are we thinking for launch time? So we still think we still think before August of this year Jared I You're not Jared This is called this is called zoom today's so I said that you didn't actually say that yet, so Or go ahead Ryan. So since he's still thinking so what do you think before August? I think Being realistic August probably it's the earliest we could see it I'd say oh, yeah So well, you've got a so they've got to bring SLS back first then they've got to go through all their issues then they've got to put it back and That that at that point it depends Whether they're willing to leave whatever What whether they're willing to leave SLS on the pad for the launch or whether they need to roll it back to the VAB and back out to the pad if it's back to the VAB and then back out to the pad I think August September and I think that's the most likely route But if they're willing to risk it and leave SLS on the pad probably like I'd say late July is the earliest So do you think they will I'll come to you in a moment. Do you think? With where they're at right now. Do you think they're still going to wet dress or do you think they're going to be like no? No, no big Let's just go straight into launch cadence like we got the data we needed Like if we're going to think They haven't completed a full wet dress. I think they're going to go through complete a full wet dress. It's just at that point I'm unsure of whether they'll go straight for launch or come back for repairs I think it's most likely they'll come back for like minor repairs and then go back out But there is still the possibility it could launch straight away, but I do think they'll still wet dress Well, there's nothing holding it down. So no if they The engines that things going All right, how about you Jared before honor before August? Oh, I think it's gonna be a Little bit after August. So I'm kind of in the the September area. I know in our show last week I said I don't think it's gonna fly this year But actually I think it is I think I was just being very pessimistic last week about things captain grumpy. Yeah I was a little grumpy pants last week, but I I think it'll fly by the end of the year With that I feel like they're gonna go out. They're gonna do Another wet dress a full wet dress I hope I hope this time and I feel like they're gonna find some more problems with it But I mean that's also what testing is for to find problems. So here's a here's a dumb question We're going back to the VAB and we're gonna fix a bunch of valve issues and whatnot, right? Like we got we have valve issues on the second stage or the interim Crush it it's just a state. It's a whether or whatever. Yeah, so we have valve issues there We have some valve issues on the ground support equipment, right? Leaks. Yeah, we're leaking, right? It's a bit leaky bit leaky. You don't like leaky rockets So we're gonna send it back to the VAB and fix all of that But we still need to activate the flight termination system the FTS, right? Yes, so yeah, would they at this point be like, okay? Let's activate let's roll it back activate FTS get it ready to go Roll it back to the launch pad wet dress and then like a week later launch Or are we looking at a scenario where it's roll it back to the VAB fix all this stuff? Roll it back to the pad wet dress roll it back to the VAB FTS and roll it back to the pad again Well, I remember right there is only a certain number of times they can roll it back to the VAB, right? Why would there be a certain number? I want to say there is no I thought I heard that somewhere Okay, so that is shaking his head very fast So in other words, I just made myself look a fool in front of done why the world Like that would be like, you know what you can only drive in this road 14 times before you can no longer drive in this road Like what I mean? Sometimes there's like a road that you can like take your car down once You know, you know what I mean? That's a limitation of your car not the road or you You why why in the world like that doesn't make any technical sense to me whatsoever. I mean we could start a rumor Sure, why not? There are only six Back before I can no longer do it and they have to scrap the rocket before they can roll out again on the same track I don't know to read it. So as soon as they're as soon as we're off air remind me to tell you a story Okay. Oh the internet loves that you just did that to them by the way. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Cool Cool guy Okay, yeah, I mean all right, so this is a fair point air veils is well I mean eventually they're going to need to order new rocks. That's true Right. Yeah, but that doesn't prevent you from rolling out the erosion. The erosion is real Yeah, so yeah Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah James they just need to replenish the rocks on the crawler way. Yeah So I mean that makes sense the number of times you can roll over the rocks before you need to replace them But you can replace the rocks there. I was gonna say I don't even think that's like a major I don't want to even say that's like a major issue. They just roll down with one of those truck things and then and they Just rolled died one of those truck things. Yeah, you roll down the track with one of the truck things They got the kind of bed like angled and they just kind of slow forward and all the rocks dump out on the piece of cake Yeah, piece of cake. And then you just build your launch pad right next to where the rocket's at and the oh I love this the rocket road Zamboni Is that hold on for it hold up that is a copy in that from the name of the show rocket road Zamboni Yep, well that's that's in the right spell Zamboni, but it's smoking You know all about the you know all about the effort Do we leave it misspelled for the title of the show because that's how it it yeah There are billion dollars per rock Okay, anyhow, so we We derailed on something that is clearly not true. Yes, I'm sorry here. I come Yeah, there are only so many times you can roll it back. Why so many times you can derail a show That's not true. Not true either. Yeah, exactly challenge accepted So also welcome data for those who don't know you didn't see that I see or hear data for a hot minute Mostly because he we started the show without him. He's like, I'm gonna be late I'm like cool and I started the show. I am actually here now or or or am I? You're a hologram based on the same technology. I used to make the flat earth look round and Something something dome. I'm gonna bounce off the dome in a minute. Mm-hmm. Exactly careful. Okay, so So, what are we thinking? Are we are we gonna roll back twice at this point for FTS? Yeah, I'm bringing it back to the real conversation. Okay. I don't think so I think that they're gonna so they're gonna roll back do all the stuff that they need to do right activate FTS look at the Launch escape system and say we don't have one on here. We're idiots and then I'm just kidding y'all are great And then wheel it back out and I think they're gonna do the full wet dress And then I think that hopefully they'll be able to fix any issues on the pad out there Right, and then we'll see where we go from there Well, is there a concern that if you've got active FTS out there that like pad safety is it's harder I would say a little just a little bit I'm just saying that so so that but you think they will activate FTS or install and activate FTS at some point It will obviously at some point my question is on this next rollback or they're gonna roll it back Fix the issues roll to the pad wet dress roll it back install FTS roll it back to the pad again Can they activate FTS at the pad or do they have to go back to the VAB to do that? I feel like there's a six-digit code. You need to send it through your cell phone or something like that to activate FTS You have to do one of those in order to activate FTS and you need to if it TFA Oh, this is something I did not know Greg says This changes everything. Oh goodness FTS is only good for 20 days So that you know, I can answer my own question if that data is true is that no way I'm skeptical of The risk of not rolling back What do you mean? If they so if they if they come back this time go back out in I don't know however long they need Wet dress successfully How much time will they have to turn around for launch within a 20-day window? That's a big risk Yeah, absolutely. Like I had I didn't realize that we only had a 20-day window So if that's the case then yeah, they're gonna roll back twice at this point So with the understanding that they're gonna roll back twice What are we thinking for timeframe? New data new data new pole. There you go. So I I missed the part of the conversation where we said what what FTS is Oh, right. Yeah, if you had shown up on time, I know Maybe I was in important meetings. Okay. I don't believe you. All right Training flight termination system, which I did back say on the show. Yes, you did actually miss that I did Yes, you did once again if you show up on time in the mean They can't just go out there with jumper cables and like start up the car Add a little juice to the battery. Wait. So you're telling me the SRB's that are installed on SLS don't have shape charges on Wait, what's up? Actually, that's a good point. Why do you need FTS? Why can't you just use the SRB's? Wait, what are you talking about? The SRB's are a flight termination system That's the the seam that's on the outside of the SRB's That's that's a that's a shape charge to blow them wide open so that they so you're telling me those are not installed on maybe it's the Well, it's the batteries, right? They turn the battery or they turn the electrical on I'm assuming it's an electrical on for the FTS Which would then arm it so I Guess so you know what? They just need a giant Tesla battery on the rocket clearly the Tesla power wall They can't change batteries. I Mean, but that might be a rollback maneuver and how many times do you want to roll back? Apparently you can only do it three times All right, all right, we're going around it. We're going around us. We're gonna live that one down We're showing our complete and total ignorance of how SLS works Dear Google The chat rooms just hanging their head in shame like why don't you know this there was a day no, they're screaming Fools Why don't you know this infosills? All right, so really I give you money to know things. Why don't you know so what you're telling me is that? This is rocket science and it's more complicated than me armchair engineering this I'm just you know and frankly I'm not even armchair engineer I'm just curious is what's gonna happen with this rocket because is yeah like I there are things about SLS that I don't like They're just are there are things about every rocket that I like and don't like yeah, but it's big and cool It's not the most beautiful rocket Mmm-hmm It's not the most beautiful rocket out there But it is still a really cool cool rocket and I'm excited to see it launch So, you know, I'm gonna speculate on when I think it's gonna launch When do you think it's gonna launch data before you think now that we have a now that they have to undress the rocket or we're doing it undress rehearsal The role is the rollback here in after referred to as an undress. I feel like that's what it is So now that we're undressing it. When do you think do you think it's going before August? The white dress do you think what dress is going before August? No, no launch. I'm sorry launch launch. Yeah, I was still I was still sticking with the end of the year I don't know about before August, but I think they can might be able to do it before the end of the year and the year So we're all into the year still But like barely I'm I'm August second You're why you know what you're just speaking that into existence. Yeah, that is awfully specific Hey, you know why I'm gonna it's gonna be amazing when it actually does launch on August 2nd And I'm gonna be thinking of you Super jealous because you know, I'm in control. Yeah, I'll be stuck in a control room sitting there You know one unable to watch the space launch system at all All right, and you know what type of robots on command to go wherever you want them to look at oh So you can't really do that at the space for on a space for space. I can't point my optics at another pad Yeah, yeah, that's that's a big no-no and that's also why back in the day. There was that a must six anomaly and There was beautiful footage of it and the first question I asked is how did they get that? Mm-hmm. Yeah, you should be able to do that. Mm-hmm. Yep. Exactly. Yeah, you can't do that That was a little bit of a all right. We've spent enough time on SLS and I've hammered home my My joke and the thumbnail so I feel like Jared you you were excited about something. Yeah, we got the big Decadal survey finally Gazooontime Yeah, thank you. Oh But in planetary science and other things like that once a decade they do a survey and they figure out what we what planet? What planets we have in the solar system? Yeah, we figure out you got the sun mercurus Water planet plateau And that one's too far away. They don't have a name for it And copyright strike. Yeah Like this one got to make sure they're still there. Yeah, that's true We can't we don't know where Pluto is it's not a planet anymore, so yeah, I don't know I don't know what happened. I just somebody lost it. So it's just it's all over the place And basically we figure out what do we want to do for in science and planetary science and other things like that Over the next decade like what are the big goals that everybody should be aiming for? With that so number one right out of the gate was Mars sample return So that's the that's the big one. We want to get a sample from Mars a nice clean sample before people land on Mars and contaminate everything. Okay, so and that's actually perseverance with its system to Catch samples and other things like that doing that for us right now and actually JPL and several other groups are working on That mission right now. I think that's actually a really good idea because I think I do think we should send humans to Mars But yes, you're right. We're totally gonna the moment we step off of that. We're bringing all the bacteria and everything with us We're gonna contaminate it and so having like a although. Well, they do decontamination process at process I For all of these yes, there is always a possibility. They miss something true There is but they they build them in very good places. So the spacecraft assembly facility at JPL Is a class 10,000 clean room and you can imagine keeping that just sounds made up So and it is it's not it's not it's not it's a real thing It may be there are less than 10,000 particles of a certain size per cubic meter something like that So every time I look in every time I go there and I see something being built in there I always think to myself like those are the happiest computers on this planet because it's probably like minimal dust inside those computers and the Where was I at with that? We were somewhere with that Also, they could you have to cook your vehicle that you're sending to Mars as well 150 degrees until gooey in the middle. Uh, it's usually it's about 400 degrees for several days. I've been walking me Julia child Thing on yeah on HBO and so when you said, you know cook the spacecraft I was like I am now I'm picturing Julia child cooking a spacecraft like on her show. Just You know what I just realized this one's good to be going tomorrow dolphin. Do you know who Julia child is? Please tell us Do you hold up? Are you messing with us or do you actually not know who Julia child is? No, I genuinely don't know. Oh my god Just internet. All right internet all of you who know who Julia child is you along with me We got old Yeah, end of the story. I'm sorry, so we're cooking the spacecraft. Yep, okay Also everything is being wiped down with alcohol wipes like crazy throughout the entire Fabrication of at every step of fabricate fab big Every step. Thank you at every step of building the damn thing They're having on the alcohol wipes and sterilizing it and then of course you've also got the fact that you know It's gonna be transported in a Is it block sealed back? Actually, it is sort of a sealed bag. It's not a ziplock though But it is sort of and there is a Container that they put it in that they pump nitrogen into so that'll kill stuff that takes a couple days If it and then also the fact that it's going from earth to Mars and it's being hit by radiation directly That should handle stuff too. So we try to do everything we can for planetary protection To make sure that everything is clean as possible. Obviously you can't get rid of everything Well, it's kind of my point is like you can do everything you can but there's always a chance that you miss something Absolutely, and that's why in that sample cache on perseverance a couple of the tubes are not going to have anything in them So they're going to be the controls that's going to tell us What they were like upon arrival so that way if there is anything that contaminates it We can know immediately just by looking at what is inside of those empty tubes But this does seem like a really good idea Actually like actually having this data before because it's kind of this like the next clear step for humanity is Absolutely to go to Mars. Yeah, right? And so we want to make sure that we have All of the data necessary. So once humans are on Mars We can still do science based on what we had kind of in the before times Yeah, exactly We're in the before times. That's kind of it's kind of cool to think about that Like we're in the before times right now. Yeah, and we're going to be going to Mars in our lifetime like soon Humans will be going and that will be the aftertimes. It's pretty cool Yeah, that's actually a friend of mine is an astrobiologist basically put it to me that the moment you open an airlock on Mars That's it planets contaminated. So like any sample you take from that point on the zombies It's gonna be the moment you open that lock. That is how we get zombies zombies So the another recommendation From from them that they made the what will be the butt of many jokes for many decades to come is that a mission to Uranus Should be up and going as soon as we can So So it was ranked it was ranked third during the Survey back at the 2010s now. It's the top flagship that they want to do. How much I love no, it's fine It's it's with it. So they're gonna go out there and study it study Uranus And as that fans that fan says they're going to probe Uranus and in fact they are which They are going to actually want to have a component of it. That is an atmospheric probe So they're gonna have an athprobe at Uranus. Yes, it basically First up Uranus. Yep. So there you go after Uranus So which it's it's a Uranus by the way in case anybody wants to know Uranus is fine, but if you're I'm so sorry if you're a person of culture you call it My third grade teacher was clearly pedantic. So Good one Tata and then The next flagship that they want to do is they actually want to go on a mission to Enceladus So they're actually saying The mission you missed a tee in your butt But that that mission would be the butt of every joke for every good meme. There's a typo Am I gonna work on the Uranus probe? I don't know We'll we'll have to see how that Children all of us all of us you all are being so cheeky today I am here now change the calling out James Gomez. So yeah, definitely. Yeah, all right everybody. Let's wipe the puns Away from that mission. Don't because the next one that they want to do is a flagship mission to Enceladus One of the moons of Saturn. They actually want to pick that over a lander on Europa One of the moons of Jupiter So we've always talked about Europa having a big ocean and we want to go there The problem is that there's a layer of ice a couple kilometers thick and you got to get through that to get to the ocean Meanwhile at Enceladus, there's geysers right at the surface. So you could literally just Chuck something into the geyser and have it go down and you're there So that's one of the ideas of what they want to do literally hunt for life Just by chucking a probe down into a geyser one one hang on one pain only Yeah, also want to do moon's geology as well. So now that people are going back to the moon We also want to enhance our understanding of the moon The facts had room was screaming at us earlier basically saying about Disagree so moon and O'Neill cylinders. Yeah, I think I think that was because we're going back a hot minute So I think he was disagreeing and correct me if I'm wrong backs But I think he's just agreeing with the idea that Mars it'll be before and after with Mars But like you're also not wrong like Moon is coming up here, too. Yeah. Yeah, I know we there's a whole moon first or Mars first no I don't think I don't feel like you can I don't feel like that's a thing you have to debate No, not anymore. I think a decade ago. We were having that debate on this show Yeah, and I think it's I think it's changed now because I think it's there are so many players in the field It used to be like you had NASA And NASA right and but now you've got all of these different players where Someone's gonna go to the moon someone's gonna go to Mars is all gonna happen concurrently So I don't think it's moon first Mars first anymore And I think now it's just get the architecture. Yes, like we need yeah, we need we need more space space We need more than just rockets at this point. Yeah, the rocket gets you there, but then what yeah That's why I've always said when people are like moon first or Mars first with me I always just say space because it's just just go get it get it going So exactly that too why not so Vax was just To be fair is something that I expect nay demand from the community I see we got some Venus love in the Lisa Lisa's it should be moon or Mars first, but it should actually be Venus So being on a Venus atmospheric boot Right like it because you would you get on a boat in Venus, right? And you just fly in the atmosphere at that point Basically a big blimp. Yeah. Yeah, you just so yeah, yeah need a submarine for a ground operation Yeah, you need a submarine for a ground operation. Yeah, actually you're not wrong How long did the Russian probe last it was like 12 minutes. Oh, no, it was it was like I think it was like 75 minutes to an hour and a half something. Okay. Well, I was yeah And that's just a launch a new probe every hour from solved. Yeah, he's cake. It can't be that it can't be too hard Difficult can it just time and money. Yeah, exactly And actually, you know talking about Venus and everything one of the reasons why Venus wasn't included in this Decadal surveys because we have several Venus missions Coming up that are going to attempt to answer some of those big questions that we have about Venus What are the questions we have about Venus? What why why is Venus actually that is how is Venus that is one of those are some of the big questions Who why is the Venus so radically different from the earth like what was Venus an earth like planet and something just went Catastrophically wrong is that one in its environment. Is that yeah? What earth is gonna look like luckily with what they expect the amount if we were to Get all the co2 and dump it into our atmosphere here on earth I don't it wouldn't come anywhere close to what Venus's got there. So, you know what humanity says to that challenge accepted Great that's good to hear happy Earth Day happy Earth Day everyone wearing red. So yeah Continue You know this show is supposed to be a bunch of space nerds just hanging out geeking out over space I feel like we're doing pretty good at that today They also want to try to bring a sample back from a comet as well So Lisa wasn't joking now that she does not work for the laboratory. She's working on getting humans to Venus Yeah, there's no reason. I thought you were working on lasers in space pew pew Yeah, cool stuff. I mean that'd be cool to send humans to Venus We thought about doing that as a part of the Apollo applications program, you know, just flying some dudes pass me You know bringing them back. Yeah, but then we decided to get stuck in lower earth orbit for a really long time All right, what's that? What else is happening in the decadal survey? They also want to do like a comet sample return as well. So you're not kidding. It's like a lot of sample I'm telling you Decade of going out and grabbing things it's like Determined as a society you shouldn't be doing that anymore Not without permission not without permission man. Let me rephrase that We are setting up this next decade to be a buffet of options We're gonna go up to that's not even better not any better We're gonna go out into the solar system and get a bunch of stuff and bring it back So and that's what we want to do space pirates. So exactly space pirates So we're gonna steal a whole bunch of stuff from everywhere. I will say at company X So I work in the Vader team at company X and my area isn't really decked out just yet I got to come up with a bunch of really cool Empire stuff But if you go down to like cube areas where with groups that area is decked out Had to like floor-to-ceiling wall-to-wall pirates Not joking. It's the most amazing thing ever. Just like there's a skeleton in a chair It's it's awesome. Sweet. Mm-hmm. That's pretty cool space pirates is the point space pirates. Yeah, space pirates Juggling's license says congratulations on getting the Vader name for your team So technically speaking I just kind of wheeled it into existence and I didn't I did I totally did I just kind of started doing it and then I'm just waiting for someone to tell me I can't have it anymore But so far no one's done that and so like now the Jira projects are all like Vader Yeah, it's it's like baked in at this point Yeah, obviously the survey the decadal survey they say that you know get some more funding Oh, yeah, this happen with things like that and also I saw somebody in the chat room saying that we have reusable rockets So it's cheap now so we could spend that money on the mission and stuff like that I still want to remind everybody that like science Scientific spacecraft and things like that are bespoke. They're not like modular at the moment So if you were to really want to revolutionize how we gather science and things like that You should figure out a way to do science missions on a modular spacecraft platform. Just make them out of Legos that would That would work in it, but the problem is I feel like the laboratory is kind of working towards that. Oh, yes, right? Like they're going yeah definitely the problem is you know JPL tried to do this back in the 80s with a program called Mariner Mark, too, which is actually where we got the Cassini mission out of it was supposed to do another mission called Croft Comet rendezvous the asteroid with that which ended up being done by Rosetta by the European Space Agency and Having cheap spacecraft is just as important as having a cheap rocket and I think people forget that That we're not at the cheap spacecraft part yet We're not on the cusp of it, and I mean I feel like you're about to say we're not even at the cheap rocket No, I was gonna say where we're we're you know We're taking bite-sized chunks out of the aerospace industry and like figuring out what we need to do to drop costs down to a reasonable level Yes, you know when it when you talk about doing these amazing return missions or sending humans to Mars Venus I think feel like okay the moon wherever You it's so much more than the rocket right the rocket is this itty-bitty teeny weeny little thing over here And you have the everything else that's behemoth and very expensive and complicated. We still have to solve for the The everything else yeah another problem, too They just thought about while we were talking while you were talking there a second is also the instruments that we put on Board of these these science missions as well They're also the spoke because they have to be designed for the target And then also what science do you want to do when you get to that target as well? So there's a lot of stuff we got it We got to do modular work with if we want to make these kinds of things cheap So that's why right now it's so expensive to do these things It's why you don't really see private companies at the moment like wanting to build rovers to send them Mars or I Like drill systems to take to Europa. It's simply because it's really expensive No point to it commercially for now Don't forget to that the the hardware is only a small portion of the the cost Mm-hmm the mission to say Pluto for example you need to have ten years worth of mission and You know all the planning and everything that goes it goes behind that and the resources to people to monitor everything Like it's not just the hardware and do not just the rocket. Yeah, I think a lot of people forget about the fact Yeah, if you're gonna pay scientists on to work on a mission Good job. If you're gonna pay science scientists to work on a mission You've got to pay him for the length of the mission. So and something like the the Uranus mission where they want to launch in the 2030s and arrive in the 2040s like a 13 year cruise To get out to Uranus and I'm talking like using gravity assists in the inner solar system And going by Jupiter with solar electric propulsion as well Like a ion engine on it to accelerate it to get out there faster, too It's still gonna take 13 years to get out there So these are projects that are not things that like happen rapidly and overnight So it's it's it's a it's a not that still needs to be cracked at some point and It'd be really nice to see that happen One of the things that did happen rapidly and overnight it was Jill Sebe coming a member. Yes I thank you very much for thank you so much. Thank you very much. Welcome to see Yeah, we have a lot we have I think the the short version of this is we have a lot of work to do Yes, if we're going to have humanity Living and working in space right because it's got to be so much more than just going up to low earth orbit and coming back It's got to be a permanent presence at the moon at Mars. Yeah and beyond Yeah, even with robotics as well like we're trying to do with the the decadal survey It doesn't really concentrate on human exploration of the solar system But there's absolutely nothing that says that you can't have robotics robots and humans in their Versions of exploration working hand-in-hand in certain ways. I mean in fact in many ways they complement each other So oh, yeah, so there's some people that are like purely like humans only there's some people that are purely like robots only but I'm very much in a The team that says both can work together very very well to fly both at the same time To the same places. Do you see if you can you saying you swing both ways? Yeah, okay? Absolutely. It's been well known for a long time Oh actually Vax this is a really great comment. Oh, yeah, this is a really great way to look at it Which is robots are a force multiplier for humans Absolutely and vice versa in a in a way right when you think about how much science a human could do on Mars is compared to The robots that we've got there now. It's it's a crazy big difference Yeah, but we need them both we do joke about the idea of like if a human on Mars a human Geologist on Mars could do in in half an hour what rovers have done in the past 30 years Yeah on the surface of Mars and it's true But also at the same time we you know haven't had the capability to do that quite yet I'm just excited for when we land on Mars Yes, and humanity will just kind of go out and find some of the old dead rovers You know dust them off and bring them back and like put a return to sender label on it Said it back. Won't that be amazing? Like I said for perseverance They've got the bomb they found the parachute for perseverance. It's got the label where you precisely were to take it back, so It's got the latitude and longitude on it Go get it send or maybe finders keepers. I don't know so anything else from the decadal survey No, that was it. It was just a really like very positive survey, and it was just really great to see that Not you know the the one ten years ago It was very much talking about budget constraints and things like that and right now it just seems like With the past couple of years the way funding has gone for NASA It seems that things are starting to open up a little bit, which is nice to see so I mean costs are coming down People are getting excited about this stuff. So yeah, yeah And that's the nice thing too with the cost coming down now You can instead of spending it on like your launch services or stuff You can turn that 80 to 100 million dollars on to your vehicle or the or your instrumentation or the people that are working on it So opens up new avenues, and that's what they're really trying to do Like they do mention in there that they think that the Uranus flagship should be launched by a Falcon Heavy So they keep the cost down. So yeah, or whatever is next. Yeah, possibly. Yeah, whatever Dr. Pod Dolphin Oh What are you excited about this week? It's called Dr. Pod Dolphin. So Dr. Pod Dolphin. Dr. Pod Dolphin MD What are you first off, what are you drinking is that soda or coffee? Is indeed an unbranded soda, okay sugar water cola. So you're awake. So Mr. Doctor sir, what are you excited about? Most people expect me to say something SpaceX related. It's not it's rocket lab related. We talked about the money with photo Electron finally very soon. They're gonna catch it with a helicopter. Yeah Which is very exciting because it will officially be another Well, they'll need to launch it again, but it will be another reusable capable Rocket capable of orbit and that's just exciting to see Wait, hold up. So we're going back. Sorry live update burger is reporting NASA has ruled out not going back between wet dress and launch So they are going back between wet dress and launch that was Okay, that was a story. So thank you Philip to you, mr. Doctor sir with regards to Rocket lab I had kind of assumed maybe incorrectly that with proton is electron and proton, right? What's the other photon photon photon? Photon so neutron photon photon. I know they're all there with a new rocket with their new rock brotherford Archimedes Yeah, with their new rocket. I just kind of assumed Neutron, thank you So I just kind of assumed that electron reusability was gonna kind of like they would do some tests to figure out What they needed to know and then just move all of the reusability efforts into neutron to kind of like be like Okay, yeah, like we didn't build electron with the reusability in mind We're building this next one with reusability in mind. So use electron as a testing platform to gather that data I know they talked about doing these things. I'm actually a little surprised that they're continuing to be like, oh, yeah Well, let's do a helicopter actually. I think is this the helicopter. Yes, although it does helicopter helicopter Yeah, so yeah pretty cool I Anything's possible Lisa says two separate rockets meeting two different market needs. I mean they can be but they don't have to be yeah, like you Because also the recovery the way the proto. Oh my god the way electron and neutron recovering themselves are completely different Yeah, you can still gather data on reentry. You can still gather data through reentry But the actual process of returning the booster is completely different So you can't it's not comparable catching something with a helicopter and propulsively landing it I mean, that's that is fair. That is fair. This was the so this is some of their propulsive Helicopter well, there is some propulsion going on there Thanks for the same Jared. I appreciate that This is there. This is one of the tests that they just dropped it, right? This is one of the drop They dropped it and then they tried to catch it get it Somebody catch it. Yeah, and J. Hayeson says Peter Beck is looking into Electron electron reuse due to launch cadence needs, which is basically we don't know how to build it fast enough So let's just reuse them. Yeah No, really, that's a legitimate issue like yeah people people Estimate how hard it the rocket's not the hard bit the rocket's actually the easy bit It's of of the entire chain of getting this thing into orbit rocket bit easy piece of cake piece of cake Everybody can do it So you do in your garage right now, so rock rock when you can't so rocket lab, huh? Are you gonna go out and watch a rocket lab launch? Are you any closer to the laboratory than you than you are to America? Are you about a distance? No Jamie doesn't geography. I don't geography. I can't picture it. It's a fantastic nine hour. It's it's like a nine-ish hour flight to Orlando. I know it's like a An eternity I think it I think you have to get on two flights at least to get to new Zeeland you can I think British Airways are launching a direct flight to Perth soon from Heathrow But it's still like I wouldn't want to be on a plane for that long. It's like 12 plus hours or something six months Six to get there 32 hours, oh my god, oh my god, I could not do that Thanks, I'm enjoying everyone Oh my god, oh, this is great This is what I've come for Well to be fairly used to do that from the United States not from London Beautiful from London according to Google the average flight time from London Heathrow to Auckland, New Zealand is 24 hours Johnny makes a good point there That's what in flight drinks are for okay, sorry Look, I don't know. I don't live over there, and I could like I can't picture it on the globe, right? So I know it's somewhere Do you know which hemisphere it's in which one Oceana or New Zealand? It's you know what I believe it's when it's on the map. It's next to Australia. Yes, mm-hmm when it's there Yeah, but often it's not So anything else about You really think they're gonna keep I guess I'm just stuck on the idea that I'm not convinced They're gonna keep trying to actually recover electron I feel like once it's viable to recover electron And if it's required for their launch cadence with their customers which give them the money to launch the rocket Then what's the point of throwing them away throwing them away if rocket lab need rockets need more rockets Recovering them makes sense. So there's no reason for them to not recover them. I mean, that's fair That's a fair statement what they're investing in recovery is is that cheaper than replacing building anyone? I Don't think it's a argument about price though. It's quicker. Yeah, right quicker. It's just about speed sometimes schedule is more expensive But maybe that's okay. Maybe they just want to get the customers out the door, right? Take a margin hit Just that you can continue, you know a 10% if it might cost more to recover the rocket But they'll be getting more revenue in through more customers because they'll be able to launch more customers quickly. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yeah Yep, that makes sense I'm down with that. It's pretty cool. I like that. It's neat Also, it's got a new paint scheme, which I'm excited about and I think it has some time It has some technical usage, but it's instead of being black It's completely silver and it's got like a red bottom and a red tip But the rocket or the rocket helicopter Can you can you find a picture of that? Yeah, mr. Dada sir. Where is it? Show me. Oh Look at it. I think there's a picture of the booster on every day astronauts website. Got it plus shiny So we're just gonna awkwardly. Yeah Oh, that is kind of pretty I don't know that I like there I feel like a blue or a purple would look cooler. I know that red is their color, but like I think the electron text should have been changed to black, but whatever. Yeah, although, you know, yeah, it would have made it pop But like probably part of the reason they're trying not to use the black tank at you thermal thermals Yeah, but who cares about physics. Is that still composite tank? How do they make it silver? paint so, you know, I Don't know I know you're being facetious, but that's a legit question Actually, I don't know that that's true. It could be like a car wrap, right? Like maybe not the same tech, but like No, really, do they make tribo electrification vinyl stickers? Would they they may a car wrap? Yeah, it might be like a wrap for a car. I'm just gonna take it out to the paint shop here real quick We're gonna jack it up guys. Jack it up to like it Wow You guys think you could make my rocket silver and red you make the red a little mat, you know on there By the way, I just need to make sure you're all you as citizens, right? Right I need the blackout package as well. I don't want to see any of the handles or the the logos Yeah, what can we get a little? Get a model delete on that. I don't want anybody to really know what It is so I don't need anybody to see that it's a it's a non-block upgrade. It's gonna make sure you know fool him a little bit Oh my god Guys down at the country club Wait, what voice of what accent have we got into? I don't know. This sounds like a Shady person a shady person that that's Jared's shady person. I guess so So yeah, somebody wants go fast racing stripes on it I'm for it. All right for it. I endorse So there's that one, but this one's a good one too, which is it's electric So it needs a high op high occupancy vehicle sticker on it. Yep. It could take the car pool lane Yeah, wow, it's a rocket pool lane. Oh, excuse us Anything else exciting you did anything SpaceX side that like I know that the laboratory and that actually is pretty cool But was there anything at SpaceX where you're like yay, or it doesn't have to be space that anything else Well at SpaceX is you've got the I'm just gonna refer to it. So you've got your standard star base stuff happening Like you've all seen it before they're building stuff. It's just next generation rocket technology. Whatever, you know, whatever It's fine. It's a whatever. Yeah, check it out. They've turned a bolt Yeah, they've also announced a partnership with an Aircraft Not an airline. It's like a charter company. I think they're putting star and complaints Jet sweet X because I've looked at flying on them before so them yeah them people it is like a little it's like a mix between a Charter airline and a actual Hairline, I never heard of them until like today. Yeah, so yeah, they fly on like little little private jets, but they have Necran people in them. I guess as I would describe it. So I don't know. So it's probably I've never flown on them before so So yeah, I just I mean I just looked at it because it looked cool So because I was like how cool is that walking out to your own jet? And then I was like, oh, yeah And there's gonna be 25 other people Maybe not so I'm just better than a hundred of your closest friends That's true. So although I usually try to sit up front because I don't fit So got too much leg With that there. So yeah a little too much Yeah, can I throw another one like throw another log on the fire here, you can I was okay I was trying to see if I couldn't say something, but I apparently I can't so okay I'm glad that I went to look up to see if that was public yet. Mm-hmm. Okay. Cool. Mm-hmm They're stacking the Atlas five for the Starliner launch. So they finally started working on that So here we go, baby less than a month. Let's do it. Let's Let's open those valves. I think it's actually gonna be August 3rd. So I'm starting a sense of theme Ryan Yeah, hmm can't imagine what that theme might be could you tell us why? Because I'm gonna be there Yeah, and can people help? Why are you going? I'm going cuz I'm going to go and cover psyche launching because the launch window is really Small and it can't really move that much which makes it really good to go and see it when you live very far away and If you want to help you can Once I'm done speaking I will get the link and send it in the chat And we'll see it and we'll also throw it in our description as well. So good stuff for that. So good stuff What's it gonna launch on? Falcon heavy And hopefully the boosters will come back and we're going to see them and as well To at the same time very nice Double so well actually it'll be double triple sonic wills Yeah Double triple sonic booms. What's the six six triple hex sonic booms hex? That's it. That's it. I like that. I'm gonna steal that hexa boom is that we'll add that hexa booms hexa boom Hex boom hex. Uh, so we need to make a rap song. It sounds like an anime So Yeah, if you want to help you can I would be very appreciative if you could drop it in the chat drop the link in the chat That was a really I just want to say that was a really good palpatine. Hey, thanks. Yeah, wow Dada, can you just like call me every once in a while and just say that excellent my young friend That's really good. What is going on? I'm gonna have to hire you on the Vader team. You'll just walk around doing that all right and Copyright hit I What are you most excited about Ryan with regards to coming over for the psyche lunch like I know you want to see Rocket punch. Yeah, okay. I got that but like what next to that Yeah, but like what what part of the rocket just the fact that you're gonna see it or The fact that it's Falcon Heavy like what what part of this is like. Yes This is the one as opposed to a Delta IV heavy. Do we have any more of those? Two more. I think a Delta IV heavy and one from the Cape or even a star Starship launch from That place star star base Shut up. Yeah, the only problem with them is that while Delta for heavy doesn't come back. It's just like you see it's gone. Yeah, whatever done Starship it's very variable. So it could move and what if the FAA take longer? I don't know and then you're already there and then it doesn't launch and it's like well the It's the launch window for this and the fact is a Falcon Heavy just like puts the cherry on on a big cake Vax the chat was saying that It's better sounding than div So I have to agree with that. Yes, you know, I've actually never heard of the launch I haven't for her Falcon Heavy, but I've seen a Delta IV and is it too smooth. Yeah. Yeah So the burn is too clean. It's it's it's all in the low range and it's really difficult to hear it. Really? Yeah Yeah So having seen doesn't cracker cracker cracker cracker. Yeah, so having seen many space shuttle launches myself personally in person Mess with that if you mute your mic, that's how that works. Oh Actually, this is a good question because I actually haven't seen either. Do you feel it more if it's in the lower register then? Like do you feel it rumbling in your core or is it just train? Yeah, yeah, like like the train that's going by right now where I can feel it shaking the entire space station somehow. Yeah So there's there's a visceral feeling to being present at a rocket launch that you can't replicate by watching it on YouTube or TV or anything like that and The same is true for Like live music I used to work in the sound industry and And even like recorded CDs, they have there's a range of frequency that they can hit and You go to listen to like a church organ and there's Resonances and things like that that you can't capture on any kind of media You just have to be there and that's the same for a rocket launch. There's so much going on Outside of the range of the capability of all the media capturing devices that are available that you just you can't there's no replacement for being there Okay, I mean that's fair. I remember when I saw and heard the space shuttle launching No Those solids it feels like they're ripping through sound they break air. Yes Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like it sounds like they're breaking the air and there's I have never heard a microphone capture it Perfectly, however, there is an I max movie. Yeah. Yeah, how do we I can't quite get it. No, no, there was a bag That's pretty good Okay, now that's pretty bad But there's an I max movie and I forget what it's called. Does anyone remember Which one hail Columbia Station Double 3d. Oh, you know, it might be Hubble 3d. Anyhow, there's one of them that it's just You're like wow, that's really really close. Yeah, but you need a badass sound system. Yeah Well, the dream is alive the dream is alive that I that I think is the one Yeah, yeah, and back says his audit actually this is something that I want to fix on company X launches And I have some ideas the tricky bit is on and bug. Oh Don't give me Do it like what do you do with your microphone? So you shove it in a Pringles can or what actually kind of yeah Yeah Just got one of them like two pounds zoom headsets microphones But it in a Pringles can and put it in the rocket. No, the dream is alive was on it was of STS 51 a Oh, that's not it then No, it was the later one. I think it was Hubble two launches in that isn't an STS 41 B. No, that's not it One that immediately after Hubble would be destiny in space so Maybe so wait, you know what it had Leo de Caprio. I think that's Hubble 3d. Okay. Yeah, there you go Yeah, all right Everyone's tuned out now they're like this is dumb Max movies so although I do want a second data the SRB is ripping air apart. It really does sound like that So because I've seen a bunch of Atlas fives go from Vandenberg before and there's a very big difference between Just a single stick, you know 401, you know, no solids on it And I've seen two five four ones go from Vandenberg with four solids on it My god, it just sounds like the air is just being like just like chainsawed apart and it's just Exploding it's and you can kind of hear the difference between different rockets with different fuels Mm-hmm. Oh Blake is not wrong the way so for those who did miss the space shuttle You should probably head down and watch the space launch system because it was at August 2nd Second break your tickets August 2nd We want to stay around for a little while then August 3rd will be star glider and then August 4th will be Should I get I'm gonna get some clocks at the bottom of the screen Counting down to the rocket And then there'll be another new rocket on August 5th, which will be announced soon your head will explode Yeah And actually row row I think Santos says I suppose the space launch system will sound similar to the space transportation system And I would assume so right similar similar so but one more Space shuttle main engine. Yes, and the great thing about that is they're gonna reuse it They're just gonna grab it send it up to spaces and No double Delta glider on the side so it's gonna sound different. It will sound different. It'll sound similar But different right so same but different but same but the same but different but same right So you don't have the the giant thing on the side and then you also your solids are different This is like rocket. You know it is. Oh, yeah There is something just beautiful and magical about the way a rocket sounds and I don't know how to describe it Other than you need to go see and hear one yourself. You just have to Vax makes a good point The solids are five segments instead of four Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, you also have to remember that the RS 25s that they're running on SLS because they're more modernized. They are gonna like run them at a higher throttle Setting they were already running them at a hundred and four percent. Yeah, they're going a little more gonna get a little get a Little more kick they recalibrated a hundred four is now Hundred four is the new hundred. So yeah, I think they're oh my gosh, where are they running at there? I think a hundred nine percent Yee-ha Ready go so turn up turn it into the red zone You know, you know, you know, actually, you know what it is. They're like, well, we don't need them back. It's fine Yeah, exactly like yeah, it'll be fine. Yeah, can they burn for eight minutes good I can't I can't do it as well as you can do it again do it Okay, that's I wonder if the SRB is gonna be putting out more thrust as well I think for shuttle they were three million a piece right three million is it more or is it longer? It might be slightly more, but it will be for a longer duration. No, no duration will be the same They would it would be more because yeah, because they burn they burn they don't burn up. They burn they burn from the inside out Yeah, right. Huh? Yeah, that's you know, get a little poppin little popcorn action tickle stuff says Space Launch System 25% more thrust We did get there on our own for the record like what we were like wait, no, that's not right Yeah, so it was set seven and a half million pounds of thrust just from the SRB's then So a peak output as known as in the industry. It's known as power put Holy smokes Well, you don't want to breathe in that particular smoke. It's still my heart So yeah Yeah, that's gonna be amazing. Yeah, if you could go see a rocket go see a rocket It may very well be still if you go see it wait true hold up. This is an amazing if this is true I love it is not that one this one Boom Right, but that kind of makes sense when you think about it because that tracks Yeah, cuz the core stage on a space launch system is big and heavy Mm-hmm, and really you're just using the solids to in lift an eight and kind of Get you off tonight. Yeah, that's a real word. Why'd you need the cool stage anyway? What if NASA does rock it that just used an SRB for the first stage? I Want to say that they're close. I don't want to say that Falcon 9 beats the core stage Falcon 9 is what 1.7 million that was from Alejandro. So I feel like that's probably a true statement that comes from NASA spaceflight Effectively I'm not saying that they'd make no mistakes, but they make no mistakes. Okay. I'm just saying oh That's a good one. Yeah, good point Alejandro. Yep. See there you go Fool that I am Although this is also good for a rocket in currency Phillip says Falcon 9 is only more powerful at sea level although to be fair He did say the the boost stage right so that would be assumed that it's your boost level It's your it's your sea level systems, right? But that falls off once you once you start traveling up. Yeah No, I get that although There's an optimization. That's usually above sea level. So then I assume that's the same of space launch system Presumably Different point engine your engine optimized you optimize your engine for Different pressures. Yeah, so exactly. So you have an opto like you start at sea level unoptimized You you start going up and then you slowly optimize and as you continue to go up you deoptimize again Yes, I was 25 was like a best of it was like a middle of the road for both because it had to operate at sea level and in Vacuum. Oh, that's the middle of the road with it in terms of that I don't know if they've changed that for the space launch system Yeah, but I guess my point is the Falcon 9 the boost stage of a Falcon 9 only needs to operate in atmosphere It does not need to operate in in vacuum like the RS 25 was originally designed to do Mostly, yeah, I was gonna say there are times it operates in vacuum I mean, but it's not not at the same not at the same level, but I was also gonna say that's not mission critical Either in us in a sense if you think about it. So for like landing and stuff, so right Yeah, but most most of those burns are happening in atmosphere though not all of them not all of them obviously So I'm using broad strokes here. Yeah, all right a big paintbrush all over the place So, yeah, that's what's up. So Yee-haw. Oh, it's not that okay. That's fun. Are we are we stalling here? Is that what's happening? I don't think we're stalling we just said we were just talking with the chat room that brought up a really good point and it Led to somewhere else because if you watch live, this is what happens This is what happens detour in the weeds. We did take it. Yeah, but like where we I think we detour then hit a dead end Sure So I mean we don't have yeah, we'll just we could drive our show once just like I said at the start of the show Drive a car down the road once drive a show down a road once. No, no, no these shows are reusable We've got an on-demand archive. You can go back and watch you can use it again. Exactly. Yeah, you know This is a reusable this shows been reusable from the beginning. That's true. Yeah, this is this is not absolutely Yeah, what do you think you are in a river? In fact, you know, I should set it up I should set it up so that as soon as the live show is done You are too last to the beginning of the show right instead of playing the next video You just replay the beginning the show and I'll just call it I feel like that would be Chris, you know, Chris Radcliffe just shows showed up and so on that note I like to thank everyone so much for watching Backs actually yeah backs just said I rewatched 8.14 yesterday. So, oh Oh, is that the one that you're on facts? We okay, so we live here. Oh Alejandro, no, no, we're just good like I can't end the show yet because these comments are too good RTLS Returned a live stream. That's that's so fantastic. Very nice Oh, and Vax was watching the C dragon episode which by the way, if you've not watched it that was episode 8.19 I think you said 8.14. Excuse me. Oh Vax's C dragon episode is Phenomenal, I absolutely love that it reminds and now when I saw that C dragon Launch on for all mankind. That's all I could think about was Vax back. We're effectively Vax like Vax is the head of that program That's the can that's the cannon For all mankind kind of what Vax heads that up. I kind of want to see Director on wait. No, wait, hold up really crap. Really they used your 3d model I love all of that that is fantastic. I love all of that that is amazing. I I love I I'll I yeah We see we should be doing this in post-show, but we're just gonna do it in the show if you want to know what the post-show is like Somewhere there's a wall with a bunch of a bunch of yarns It's the Vax of space agency And Johnny a spacer me too waiting impatiently for all mankind's third season if you've not seen Yes, Apple TV. It's it's absolutely fantastic. It's the very good. What if Oh Emery why are you doing this to me Vax got to tour the sets before it aired They were building the lunar landscape when he was there. Did you give him pointers? But you be that's not what I look like you're like no hang on right over there right over there. There would be a hole With like an e-prom in it It's a little hole e-prom and then like you just hear a little bit of music coming on That's an Easter egg man. Oh, did they use did they use Vax's music and in the background? That would be amazing that would be that would be amazing All right, I feel like Maddie said I tried to rewatch last week's stream, but YouTube said sorry the stream can't be viewed more than twice You know, actually that would be amazing I should name one. Oh god Next neck not I don't think next week because I don't think I'm here next week or maybe it's the week after One of these times I need to remember to call the episode RS 25 but then as soon as the episode is done set it to private so you can watch it once You should be able to go back and rewatch it you should have that capability But for whatever reason you get one watch and that's it. Oh god, that's that's mean Okay on that note. Thank you everyone so much for watching and I do want to also think once again The name has been up on the screen. I feel like just to mess with that I should find another comment and bring it up to air just so he has to switch back But I do want to thank everyone so much who contributes Into the show Alejandro is in the list. These are people These are people These are people who have contributed to the show week after week month after month for making it Ah You know, it's one of those it's one of those one of them's one of them's absolutely Friday, man What do you want? Oh, you know and this is I am so tired. This has been this has been a scary long week for me I just have I've been going non-stop for a while now Yeah, so anyhow, thank you. 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I don't think I don't think hang on but you might forget Like generally I've genuinely had experiences where I've watched someone for a long period of time YouTube knows I like them so they show up on my home page anyway But I'm not subscribed to them and obviously I want to be subscribed to them But I just don't notice that I'm not subscribed to them because their videos automatically pop up anyways So if you're in a situation like that, please subscribe Okay, that's fair So we can present it like that But I don't think that there's really any time that someone says hey hit the subscribe button and that in Creates a situation like you know, yeah Yeah, I'm gonna hit that you know because you said it I'm gonna hit the button if I like their content I'm gonna hit the button Otherwise if I'm like this is passive. Maybe I like it. Maybe I don't I'll let I'll let the algorithm decide whether I'm gonna see more I'm not gonna hit the button and I feel like that's what our viewers are doing Just I how can I blame him for doing the exact same thing that I do, you know If you like it share it you like it share if you don't like it send it to somebody you don't know Erin Wilson just became a member. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah And now you get to watch us talk Oh, Jill that's a such a sweet sentiment though subscribing is like a hug to the creator Jill was on the screen twice You thought I was gonna go full screen data you did and I hit the green button and not the red button All right. Hey, wow, you thought we were gonna end like 10 minutes ago We've already gone through this late This is what I bet some people tuned out when I went into the slates and they are they're missing all of this content Fools or are they are they actually missing anything or are they just like like I got 10 minutes of their life back That they are the one you actually ended the show 10 minutes ago. Oh god, I should have I Enjoyed last week where I just cut myself off. I did it to both for those of you who are not members I did it in the member stream as well. It was it was really Fantastic it was absolutely fantastic I did something it was along the lines of what did I do? I think you were like, oh, well, you know Is you're gonna like tell this upcoming thing? Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, are we winding down? I feel like we're winding down 15 minutes later. Yeah closing closing the door in this mansion. No, no I know I was gonna tell him about Okay, so on the Vader team. We're doing this really cool thing where I end the