 Well, it was getting there and then when I had a sprinkler system installed I found out wow I can put a control module in there I can control it from my phone This is really cool And then I upgraded my router Everything stop I'm gonna give away a million dollar opportunity right here right now everyone in this room and you can fight over it I don't care if somebody would come up with a system I would say I just upgrade my router and I said okay I will reconnect all your smart devices for you in the next five minutes You would sell you would not be able to keep You would not be able to go to sleep because you'd be selling so much The NASA of course work right away Well, that's what I should have done wasn't thinking that I've set up a bridge so that all the smart devices went to that instead of rather than I can do anything all day with the router So there you go sell a bridge Everybody say you got a smart home. Okay for this bridge, and you can upgrade your router whenever you want I got the lights working again, although that took a couple of days proper system still doesn't The echo dots had to be completely reset, which means they lost all the settings I had Trying to make your life simple or if it gets worse, that's why grandpa's always I put a little pole on the website the car's got the rollout Gravity forms just for the fun of it. I tried caldera forms. I tried this other one that after half hour I threw it out And I wanted to stay away from the specific Whole plug-ins just because I've used them before I thought I want to try something different See what capabilities these things have So it's fun. So it's free if you want to go on there and they like this I've got like eight different titles for the things like If you speak slowly I won't look so stupid It's one of the titles another one was been there done that like a hundred times No, based on a conversation my wife when we're Around 4th of July and she's like Were you playing on go and see and Said no You know, what is it that you drive down to this area where everybody's driving down to then you got to sit with a bunch of people You don't know crying kids and Then you got to try to then you watch this stuff that you've seen before For the most parts like 15 minutes, that's it and then you're done Then you got to fight traffic getting back and I've been there done that like a hundred times And she was like Talking about your smart home worse the endpoint to all that when does life get get too easy for us I mean you're going through all this hassle to try to make things easier exactly and every time I do it It just gives him more headaches I was telling her I'm still trying to find a car it's got to roll down the manual roll-down windows Should have called me Didn't get power windows until I think the 90s just because I thought I don't want this window to stop and break And they do break you know the boat is do where else it does our chief Thank you all for coming I hope you're enjoying We're cam Jacksonville My very first work camp was up here in Jacksonville two years ago And I found it so enlightening and enjoyable. I went to the Tampa one, which was much closer to me That summer and then last year I went to the Orlando one and now I'm back here because I said hey We're looking for speakers. I thought yeah, I can talk about something Talk about a lot of things but one of things that really Gets to me or the plug-ins and I came across I Get a lot of I Get involved in a lot of stuff that wastes time So and a lot of it is this get rich quick Schemes where somebody says oh, yeah, I've got a free webinar You're gonna make millions of dollars just come down. I know it's coming So when you sign up for this afterwards for this many hundreds of dollars I know And so As I build websites, I've got six or seven of my own. I've helped your career for other people Now we just come across these problems with plug-ins and one of the beads I get is from a salesperson and they basically said that Plug-ins or websites have specific purposes. So what I'm going to cover today is To look at what's the purpose of your website and there's basically two actions and they're opposite of each other that you want your visitor To perform based on what type of website you have And there are four categories that this guy breaks down and a lot of other sites have also listed them and we're going to go over Hosting third-party services and plug-ins. They all do in some cases similar things So when do you choose which one you want to do something? Then we'll look at core plugins that every site should have that I think every site should have and There's one missing up here Which if you were in the first presentation this morning in this room They didn't mention it, but it came to mind and so I thought oh we should talk about that, too And I'll add that Then we'll look at specific plug-ins based on what your purpose is Then I'll show you a simple bonus feature free tool Which you can either set up yourself in two minutes or you can download in five minutes And then we'll have focused audience questions before lunch Assuming everybody's still here before lunch or you can ask me questions all during the presentation I don't mind that either. I might even answer that So what is the purpose of your website? One of the things you want the person to do is you want the visitor to stay there as long as possible and hopefully buy something If they do that, you've got a store. You've got a storefront, you've got e-commerce, you have products to sell things to download The other one is you've got a content-driven site and Those you want the person to click on something you want to click on an affiliate link You want them to click on the Google AdSense ad? Something that generates revenue for you So you want them on the site as long as possible If you read any of these newspaper sites, you'll see they have ads all over the place on And that's how they make their revenue by you clicking on the ad and seeing What's the top thing that you can do with your mortgage now that nobody else has done in the last 50 years? And if you buy something they get revenue from it, or if you click on it they get revenue from it So in this case you want the visitor to be on your site as long as possible The other one is you want them on and off as quick as possible You want them to either contact you either call you email you fill out a form or enroll in something that you're offering These sites fall under two categories one the obvious one is lead generation and The second one is they call a company brochure Company brochure meaning basically. Oh, yeah, what does this company do? Let me take a look at their site. Oh, they do this They do that. They have some pretty pictures They're family oriented. They're the best in the area. You know that kind of stuff so you can Get to learn more about the company decide. Do you want to hire them for something or interview them to hire? Now let's move on to the three different areas where you can add functionality to your WordPress site and We're going to look at first the hosting provider your hosting provider Based on the level that you're paying for Gives you certain capabilities as far as the maintenance of your site codes mostly So they'll do typically a backup and restore service I use site ground and I get automatic backups every night Anytime they do a core WordPress update. They back it up before they do the update So if I check and say hey, I need a rollback. I can get rollback They have a premium service now where they can even do immediate restores for you for a certain amount of money So that's one option for doing backups and resource They also have security and I didn't learn about this until probably last year If you go into cPanel down into the security area You can actually block IP addresses right there and they'll never get to your site So if you look at your spam and start seeing where the spam is coming from Now it's getting a lot of stuff from Czechoslovakia Poland, and I don't know anybody over there. I just went in said lock these IPs Lock these companies whatever and this ban disappeared. So at the first level of defense That's really pretty nice, and I didn't have to install install plug-in to do it Let's go back to that. Let's go forward Now let's look at third-party services. I say services. I'm talking about third parties other companies that provide things for you So you don't have to do it yourself These are things like email like MailChimp Constant contact all those and take email off your site to a third site And the benefit of that obviously is if you end up being called a scammer or a fissure It can actually hurt your your site and your host You get in all sorts of trouble. So this way it moves it off a lot of them offer free Tears when you're starting out and then as you get more you can pay for it Another one is payment processing and this is really big because The thing called PCI compliance you don't want any credit card information on your website So PayPal stripe all those do payment processing for you What these services will do is they'll dictate some of the plug-ins that you're going to put on your site because in some cases The plug-in may offer this functionality for free and in other cases you may have to pay an additional premium to get that functionality and typically What I found is The services that have a basic level you can typically get for free and then if they have some advanced levels Your plug-ins plug-ins over 54,000 on wordpress.org alone And one of my frustrations with this is I can't sort them in any way that I can tell They're out of date Their course are free, which is good and a lot of them like to premium features but If you go searching for You'll see just sometimes I'll start something and I'll get 20 pages By time on page six or seven It's like this works with version 3.5. It was updated 10 years ago. It's like I don't want I don't even want this in my list I don't care about it There are other locations and these typically have premium only Plug-ins and I'll just list a few of them here because there's a whole bunch of them There's elegant themes code canyon theme forest and then Bato You could probably name another dozen, but this is just an example if you want to find a Specific plug-in or capability that you're not seeing and one that's in the repository Take a look at some of these and you can find Something that might be a little more specialized for what you're trying to do Or plugins you should install Obviously the first category is security and anti-span Second is search engine optimization and analytics Third would be you're gonna have to do in a third party service. You're gonna have to install plugins that handle those Backup which at this point I would consider optional even though people say oh, yeah, you should install it back up And I'll get into that when we go over that And the fifth one is page builder, which is probably the only one up there it is not related to The basic maintenance of your website, but it's more actually for building a website And I'll go into why I love page builders and specifically Elementor and Elementor Security and anti-spam As I said, I use site ground site ground offers the free let's encrypt SSL certificate It'll be on they have like a place where you can get the copies of all the presentations I'm not sure where that is But if not, you can always go to my website. I'll have it on there as well So let's encrypt puts an SSL certificate on your website for free and If you actually host your domain with them, which I don't and there's a reason I'll tell you about They will give you a wild card SSL certificate now that'll cover all your subdomains for that same domain Where to me it's like if I just have to install notice certificate on Because I use name silo for my Domain name because the cheapest one around it gives me everything one set price You can also they mentioned before block IP addresses from your host You can use a specific wordpress plug-in and I listed three of the popular ones up there I believe security is not free, but Word fence has a free one and I'll give you a little Personal experience with word fence. I put it in I really like it every time I log in it would tell me hey So it's a locked into your website. So I could tell somebody I didn't authorize I'm just logging in that I've been driving too late, but at least I would see that somebody had logged in But the thing I really liked about them was I got on to their blog feed and they would send out things like oh These plug-ins have been removed from the wordpress repository because of all their abilities Oh, wow, I never heard of that before I'd go in pull those out and I can use those anymore Parts of my website would break replace it with what I needed to do And I'd be back in business, but I really liked that part And then about a week or two ago. I was trying to update my website and I kept saying access denied What? Why is he accent tonight? I'm the administrator. So I took off word fence and everything went away It worked again. So I don't currently have word fence installed, but I liked it Initially for what it did for me On the anti-spam site, of course Kismet is typically Put on there automatically especially if you have a wordpress.com account you can sign up for Kismet but and if you're Stigler for following the rules they basically they say that it's for personal use only so if you're running a business Typically, you shouldn't use the Kismet unless you pay for it and make it a premium So I switched to anti-spam B Which is a free one and seems to work fine. What's it called? Anti-spam B The second one the most another one I saw there with WP bruiser. I haven't tried it out It's another popular one based on the number of accurate installation For search engine optimization the big one of course is Yoast And there's all in one and then jetpack which is jetpack is kind of like the kitchen sink of plug-in does everything or tries to do everything so you can actually do SEO stuff and Can do site statistics with you with it, which is good and about I'm going to guess maybe half of the plugins in the jetpack Group are free and the other half you have to pay for so you can do backups with them you can do Do contact forms for free I've used Yoast but not the premium version or the free version and after a while I thought I'm not even sure why I'm using that Because once you read here's all the things that they say are good I could do that without having a plug-in tell me whether I'm doing it or not but it works fine and Then I found there was something it does that I couldn't do I Would have to install another plug-in to do and that had to do with Setting whether a page was searchable and stuff like that. So I kept it on the site so I could I didn't want to have searched or Visible to the outside world Service-related if you're linking up to anything you're going to need a plug-in that can handle your MailChimp account or your send-in blue account your PayPal Striper Brake Tree If you're doing a third-party shopping cart you can actually set up a store on a third-party site And they'll take a fee from you. You don't have to do everything within your WordPress site Shopify is a really big one I've used equity Which hadn't I'm a full-day thing, but I've got it up and running seems to work. Okay Shoppily is for digital downloads and patreon when I just came across that does Content work you build a following through your content you get paid for They like they pay a monthly fee to read your content You get it you get Patrion So I think they had some I came across it from a journalist site that they said, oh, yeah go to my Patron site and As you read then they Make money That's recovery backups moving to another host Here's some of the ones you can use I've used the number three all-in-one migrations because I was moving from one hosting providers site ground and The nice thing about that was you just install the plug-in say Export everything database users you name it export it then you go to your new host Set up a WordPress site say load in the plug-in to import this and now you've got your site back That's me. I mean that's as good as a backup if you want to if you want to do it often and just keep exporting The other thing I came across and this only when the last couple of weeks is these multi-site managers Now I'd heard of them before I'd heard of main WP, which you can actually run from your computer as a Main WordPress site that you can then update all your other sites from I didn't want to spend time setting up a separate WordPress stack on my computer so I went with managed WP, which is also free and I can pull up the dashboard I can see six websites right across there says these 19 plugins need updating go update them And it goes and updates every site for me And I thought that's pretty cool And if you're not into automation You can have it do the security check for free. You just have to tell it when Like now I'm going to do the security check and it'll do it for that site If you pay and then the rates are pretty cheap. It's like a dollar a month or two dollars a month You can schedule the security check so you can schedule backups You can schedule a bunch of different things that they will handle for you So I thought that was pretty cool PageBuilder, why is page builder a must or it should be a core plugin? There is three of them that I picked here. There's a bunch more Beaver builder when I first got into this seemed to be the big one that everybody had most work camps out that Seem to be working on beaver builder Guy at work that does a lot of our website development big beaver builder guy But the second first or second work camp I went to They were talking about Elementor and okay. Well, I'll try that. It's got a free version. I pulled down the free version Man, this is really great. And then I got them then I bought the pro version This is even greater. And the nice thing is It allows you to reduce the number of plugins you have because page builders do so many things themselves I don't need a separate contact form plugin. I can use page builder I don't even need a membership login if I don't want the extra functionality. It's got a basic login form I don't need a separate Like the lady before was saying well if you need if you want these other icons for sharing social media You got to pay for the theme. I know I don't I just add them in my page builder and voila. I'm done I have Facebook. I have Instagram. I have Snapchat I've got LinkedIn. I got Kuva Plus. I've got everything and it's all already built into the page builder So I'm going to go out on a limb here Early thin limbs will probably break but it's a bold prediction that themes are going to be useless in the future in WordPress because page builders will do everything a theme will do so I started thinking about that as Sheila was talking You know really all a theme does is it presents? framing of the house and The page builder is all the other stuff. I can do headers. I can do footers. I can do logos I can do I can have different pages look different. I can save them as templates And reuse them wherever I want. I can export them and put them in on another site. I don't care What the theme is anymore? It doesn't matter so I'm assuming and I'm not real big on on the core Coding of WordPress that that's really what the theme does that sets the structure That all these plugins use to extend its functionality, and I think the page builders Elementor just came out with blocks So now I can say oh, yeah, I want a I want a three-column block with with pictures Okay, here's the block boom now all I got to do is modify it to my needs and I'm done And I can save it as my block and I can use it elsewhere so I Don't know I've done so the one that I didn't add to this list that I thought about when Sheila was talking is His child theme creators If you do work in themes, and I've had to customize some themes a little bit You always want to create a child theme first and customize that And that way if you have to upgrade your theme, it's not going to break any specific customization customization you've done Prior to that So that's a benefit of that. There are some plugins that actually will allow you to do the copying of the theme for you into the child theme And you got multiple child themes going to look different, you know, whatever So I would add that to the list But you know you can With Elementor, I've got a MailChimp plugin already set. I don't have to get a separate one I don't even have to use a code from MailChimp and build the forms that they give you I can do landing pages. I can do galleries. I can do sliders And and as they keep coming out of the new stuff you're just going to get more And then the other thing that a lot of plugins will have is extensions to them That give them additional capability that they either haven't built in yet or they aren't going to build in So initially Elementor didn't handle headers and footers and somebody wrote an extension to them So I can say ignore the themes headers and footers. I don't want to create my own And if I use a certain canvas boom, I've got my own headers and footers and The theme to me is invisible So let's look at the goals of e-commerce sites if you're running a store And what plugins might be useful and then we'll look at a couple examples of some of these sites to see what they're doing Obviously the first goal is you want this visitor on the site as long as possible You want them to buy your products And if you have a site where they can buy again later you want to become a member so you can alert them Hey, there's something I want you to look at you might be interested in buying So plugins for them obviously store a shopping cart the big one is WooCommerce And I've started using WooCommerce on one of my sites. It is hugely Capable it's got tons of different capabilities and it's got a ton of extensions that you can either buy or add on for free to do different things So if you're selling a lot of stuff This would be a good thing to use if you're selling just a couple of things then to me It's overkill and so you have to be careful of Am I putting something on because a million people put it on or because it's doing what I wanted to do and So initially I started out with WP simple PayPal shopping cart gave me a PayPal Connection allowed me to put in a few things that I could Be out and running Another one I've tried out is equid which is a third party one Again, you set up the stuff. It's basically hosted on another site. It links to your site And there's you know, and this one didn't cost me anything. We're at a Shopify, which is the big one You better be sell a lot of stuff because it's an expensive Adam, I think it's like 30 or $40 a month Just to use it If you're doing just digital downloads The easy digital digital downloads is a specific plug-in that that's all they do Third party one called shop. Lee does the same thing In the boot commerce I added a extra extension of theirs It said digital downloads so I can do digital that way so you can there's a bunch of different ways You can do these things and it's a matter of How do I do it most efficiently for my site? That causes the least amount of problems because the more plug-ins you have the more Chance you have for conflicts and issues payment processing PayPal strike and break tree There's a bunch of other ones also PayPal and Stripe were typically offered on almost on the majority of plugins Stripe not always for free. You might have to go premium to get strike If you want to go to the higher PayPal processors, you have to usually pay for those as well the basic PayPal Connection typically works on anything And then if you're doing subscription membership paid membership pro ultimate member and members are a couple and there's a bunch of others and those are One of the things you can do and I've done a lot is I'll go to a site like WP beginner or one of these others that those comparisons And just try to read. Okay. How are you comparing these? What do they do? And I can get a feel for yeah, this this does what I want to do. This one doesn't and it's a basic Thing that I think that's pretty good. I can then start wheeling it down and Start loading them up looking at them seeing how easy they are Some things will say oh, we're real easy. There was a form I can't remember the name of it now There's no coding at all. I just point click and then it's like, okay So I put a form field up and I put up another form field up Okay, I want a third form field over here. I couldn't get that field over there for the life of me I'm like, come on. I kept putting it down in the second row. Like we'll make them this way. Nope Then it's one per row. Okay. I give up take it out If I can't do it something like 15 20 minutes forget it. I don't have that time to waste so Amazon of course is the biggest e-commerce out there. I figured I'd start with them and this is what I would call a broad E-commerce site they sell everything under the sun So their products are all over the place. They're up on the very top They're in the middle on the slider and they sell products to their products. So it's all over the place They've got a search button a bar so you can look for products to buy and they can track you So you can see what did you look at last time case you still want to look at it again So that's a an example of a broad e-commerce site Then there's one called focused e-commerce and I I made this up So I'm not copywriting it or trademarking it anybody can use it Basically you're selling one thing or one type of thing only in this case even though it's difficult to read This is blue bottle coffee. So they're selling coffee And they've got the search bar. They've got the products They've got a lot of white space and I think if you're selling one thing White space matters. It makes it much easier for people to find things and Evaluated versus on Amazon you've got everything out there on some of these other sites, too That are stores. Yeah, everything out there and you have to kind of read through Well, if you're only selling one thing or one type of thing keep it simple Let's look at content sites The goals and plug into those You don't really you want to keep them on as long as possible But you want them clicking when I'm clicking on links you want to click looking on your affiliate stuff And if they buy then you'll get money for that So you have plug-ins for affiliate links things like easy ads on these on Affiliates yeah ads with quick adsense advanced ads You've got remote content update Let's say you're running a site where you have a bunch of other authors sending content to you You can use the basic jetpack email Plug-in to have an email in or you do something like you submitted posts or posty I'm sure there's some other ones out there as well You can also do front-end editing With things like page builders where they don't have to log in User management You can do things for email subscribers and newsletters Add to any share buttons or a couple of them Content site of course content is everything so they show it In the same thing up here is offered down here. You can see it on multiple places All the links you'll go to things that they get money from if you buy Because they're in affiliate This one same thing multiple places that do the content and they'll even put in a little disclaimer You should tell you hey, this is an affiliate site. We make money because I like the sites that do that that are that way I know that I Know who I'm helping out and then I Talk to the sky working. I said yeah, and if I don't really want to help them out I'll go later by myself over here. He said well, you know the cookies there. They're going to get paid anyway I said only if I'm on the same computer So lead generation sites these are big on sales You want to get the visitors signed up so they can try to sell them something You want a contact form? You want testimonials, so they know that real people value your service or whatever it is you're providing You want them you want them to get on to your mailing list because What I've read mailing list is King. Everything goes by your mailing list and You want a landing page? So the first time I set one of my sites up. I use WordPress landing pages And then they also said all along you want under construction. There's an under construction page You notice on every single one of these Page builders does the same thing So why would I want five different plug-ins if I could just use one and get all that functionality? And that's why I will always promote page builders every chance I get it's to me They're just once you learn them and understand how they work Breeze to manage your site I can do landing pages and in Elementor they even have default landing page templates set up I just can choose one thing. Yes, I'll like I'll put it up. It's for this kind of a sale Then I'll tweak it to the way I want to tweak it Here's a lead gen site that I was looking at using Friday night and changed my mind So the big thing is you want to feel to the customer This one they're actually trying to get you to become a lift driver And then you want an action and after Reading on some of this. It's like the less you have on the landing page the better you want them to be able to click in one spot or Typical landing page it's about five feet long you want them to click in one of five different spots But it's always going to take you to the same place. You don't want them to usually go somewhere else on your site For sure sites though are a little bit different So there you're trying to build credibility for the customer and you want them to typically to call you or email you so Some of these same things forms contact forms you can even through in some form builders and I'll talk about them in a second One place I was reading said brochure sites are really pass a now. They're no longer Considered Useful, I guess I don't know. I'm not sure what the guy was trying to get at but he felt that they should all be landing page type sites Haven't made up my mind, but I think about that the one Drawback with using form builders that I've come across so far is You have to be ready to code So I use gravity forms trying to test something out. I use caldera form It's not gonna try to show the difference between the two when they look like how easy is it and when With anything I did with them. I either had to put in HTML somewhere Or like he he showed me a site they did and he said oh, yeah We use we use the gravity form. So you have to use CSS everywhere in order to make it look the way you want I said well, that's good. I don't want to use CSS. I want Click on things and have it do what I want to do just by selecting something instead of having to know Oh, yeah, throw this code in here and then throw this code in here I'm not I mean I'm a developer during the day. I'm not a developer at night So I want to assemble a website that works. I don't want to code one Because what's going to happen some time there's gonna be an upgrade. It's going to break your code Galleries same thing. I've used next gen which was a nice gallery There's some other ones for showing pictures and the page builders have galleries So why do I need a separate plugin? I'll just use my page builder now that being said a Lot of the functionality in the page builder may be basic So if you want to do more than the basic membership login You want to have tiered membership levels and subscriptions and all that you may have to go to a separate plug-in that has all that functionality But as an initial start to say I just need something to begin with Just use your page builder and see if it satisfies you until you need something more Here's a brochure site. This is for air conditioning So right up at the top they give you their phone number call for appointment Quest one They tell you what they do. They sell our conditioners Sighting site No, but if you're looking for air conditioning companies, you might say, okay, there's one Could it be more exciting? Oh, yeah We fixed broken air conditioners in five minutes. Hey, I've got a broken air conditioner. I'll call So it's all depends on what you're appealing to here's on for plumbing family owned and operated They tell you to call them at their number They tell you what they do plumbing But there's no specifics. So how do I know what they're good at? Are they good at everything? Here's another plumbing one They have a number to call They say they have a portable plumbing service. How do I know that they're affordable? Affordable to me may not be affordable to you. So what's one of things this sales guy was reading was talking about They're close. They're number one in this or this best in this It doesn't mean anything unless you can show something that says these people were rated number one on Angie's last starter Number one in the best of the area Survey last year something like that So it's always you always want to be careful and that's why they say go with testimonials because now I know hey This is a real person who had your service and this is what they thought about it That carries more weight They also use stock gallery pictures the sales guy said that's a waste of time. It doesn't do anything If you don't want to take a picture of something you actually did or working on and don't put any stock photography up there So when I was looking for landscape services, it was perfect because they showed Actual pictures of the work they had done. I could look and say, oh, yeah, well, it's really good Nope, that doesn't look good. I could choose a different landscape based on The pictures of their work. So let's just couple extra things that threw in there for the fun of it So now the bonus feature What's important to you let's compare apples to apples and it's a free tool for you to use now Why did I do this? Because I had extra time it just felt like it and I'm an engineer and engineers tend to do things in numbers more often than not so What I decided was now every time I read these comparisons of here's the top 10 plugins for this and here's the top five for this a lot of times, but I'll see is This one does five colors I don't care about five colors. Come on. I mean they give you things that I don't care about Where that aren't important to me or they rate them is well, that's going to be best because I know this developer He's just a cool guy But it doesn't matter to me. I don't care if there's only one developer. I'm a little worried What happened if something happens to them? So I decided well, what if you had a tool where you could read it yourself based on things that were important to you If you set the criteria He said I'm going to wait each criteria a certain way because this is more important to me than that and on their website It might not have been I want to come up with my own rating scale I want to come up with the value on that scale that I think that plug-in Matt And then I'll see the score and I can compare and say okay, which ones do I want to start looking at first? because they scored higher And it's just a simple spreadsheet which You can't really see from back there, but basically I've got criteria over here. I've got a weighting scale It says oh, this is worth 20% of on a scale of 1 to 10 values of 3 so the score to 6 Sum it up and you get a total score at the bottom and then you can say oh, okay I'll look at that plug-in first and then this plug-in second Because no matter what you do on any of these comparison things whether you're reading a best of or the top 10 or whatever You're not going to know until you load it on your site play with it Whether or not you're going to work for the file I'll talk to somebody saying I didn't like elementary. Why not? I had to do this Well, that was because he was familiar with beaver builder and beaver builder is this way So when you realize how you work, you'll find certain plugins work the way you like to work and other ones won't Even if somebody raves about the other one Could you just read off those categories? Yeah, so the categories I put up there as an example is number of installs So if I'm looking at the wordpress.org site and I get a listing And it's got 20 on the page and I look and say okay. Well, what is the number of installs that? That plug-in and then when was it last updated that updated a week ago that updated six years ago How many this is where it gets really difficult because it's hard to look at a plug-in and tell right away How many things it does but if you can get a sense for it. Well, that might do five things that might do 10 things Or these are the functions. I need and it does all of them You can do that then I look at is it on the current version Because on the wordpress site, they don't take them off even if the last version I've worked with was 3.5.6 And so I want to know that if it's not on the current version it better only be one version back And the current version should have just come out yesterday Otherwise or is such a generic plug-in that they'll say it's tested with the current version even though they haven't updated in six years But it works because it's just a basic And then I looked at the star rating You know what did other people rated who are actually trying to use it and then the number of developers you can look at the Get what it's called as the distribution whether it's contributions or contributors and they'll show you who has worked on the plug-in Well, if I see one guy And I see another plug-in that has like nine people I'm going to lean towards the one with nine people because I think there might be more support for it I could be wrong. I mean, I don't understand these things a hundred percent But I would say it's more important to me to have a plug-in It has a team working on it and a plug-in relying on one guy I know that may be biased but and I and I've used plugins that are by one guy and they're and they were fine But I'm always leery When I first start out, especially the new one that I don't have a lot of Feedback from other people that say oh, yeah, this is a great plugin guys always on top of it and and and some of them even if Person stops developing it somebody else may pick it up. So if it's a popular one, I think that's what happens Somebody else will pick it up. Yeah It's all the same So if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to answer them 1144 so the lunch line has probably already started Membership Membership plugins Experience I've had very limited experience with them But I've the guy that I work with who has had a lot he likes being members of the pros because it gives you a lot of the capability for Setting here Using the members plug-in because there's another plug-in I want to use Nice meeting you Luncheon In your website, yeah All in one migration and does that also allow you to send the backup to your Well, that's basically what it does basically You Can choose Basically you say Export it and then a lot of important as it files to your Wherever you want to shoot it off the site And then I go to a new site and I Create a WordPress installation and I grab a zip file Because I used a couple of something called WP phone Yeah, awesome. It didn't mean I guess they have a lot of four or four here So I So to restore You can do it that way and I think that's probably why And that's what's work Elementor just came out Which That's why the first thing you have to decide is, what do you want your website to do? That way you can get rid of any noise because there'll be other things that you don't need. And then, I would say, skip a lot of the core stuff that we use. No bother with backup, no bother with security, no bother with SEO. All you want to do is get your website out and running first. And then I would start adding on the stuff that's protected. Oh yeah, it's like information over the line. Where do I turn? And that's why I like the page builder. If I put it in a page builder, I have all this functionality right there. I don't have to worry about it. There's 40 widgets that I can add on. And I'll be able to extend those so that I can do a lot of stuff with it. And I'll add all the widgets. And then I'll just take them out and put it where I want them. That's where I'm going to program this part. I use an elementary pro where it's like, why would I want them back to the pro? Exactly. I'm one of the eight today, not a lot of people. I went to past school recently. Right. The other one I was using was General Impress. I wanted to give you one menu after kids. I might switch it over to... I'm trying that. I would test it on my old things. You know what I should do? I know, I know. Is there any security program out there that will kind of look out for bugging security? Is there a compromise? Oh, thank you. I know. I know I get those emails. They came out two months ago. Something with...