 Packed house today and and so and so then the chicken tells the Japanese game developer That is why I put yes. That's what he said Sorry All right, sort of ruined it. I know I couldn't help myself. Are you are you prepared? I? Was birthed prepared Justin rubber young I was born quotable Here we go Do they leave new texture with Thomas marie de la toit dupacostine francaise monsieur Patrick bezia as para patrion's come on one Si vous plaît vous joindre à nous petrion.com slash esthetec J'aspecte a general so my la plat quelqu'un do Kentucky Ness This is the Daily Tech news for Monday July 13th 2015. I'm Tom Merritt joining me today Patrick Beja on a Monday Veronica Belmont will be on a Tuesday this week. How are you doing Patrick? Are you disoriented? I am still laughing from that intro. It's it's excellent fantastic. So how would you say it in French? You would have to send me the full text No, you're a valuation of it. How would you say? Oh, right? It's a fantastic Interesting thing is that he does the the rolled ours. I don't know if you call them like that in English, but he does Yeah, and we don't do that in French. I don't know why yeah, yeah Justin Robert Young is here as well today. How are you sir? Missed opportunity for the French Patrick. I feel like like the rolled ours, you know, they're they're just a great addition to any Language, you know just spices it up a little bit. This is an amazing panel that we have here today Tom and You know, unfortunately it has to be under such sad circumstance Yeah, our top story in the headlines. No spoiler is the passing of President Satoru Iwata of Nintendo We do have Chris Kohler author and editor from wired will be joining us for the discussion section So let's get right to the headlines As we said Nintendo President Satoru Iwata died Saturday at the age of 55 due to a bile duct growth Iwata worked at HAL laboratory in the 1980s where he worked on lots of Nintendo games like balloon fight and earthbound He joined at Nintendo as GM of corporate planning in 2000 and was appointed the fourth ever President of Nintendo in 2002 and the first not to come from the founding family Like I said, that's going to be our topic for our main discussion today ours technical reports that Comcast revealed pricing for 2 gig fiber internet service in the US residential market Which will cost three hundred dollars a month with fees up to one thousand dollars for installation and activation Equipment taxes and other fees may also be added into the price and Installation will require eight or six to eight weeks to complete. But hey, there's a promotional price for a hundred and fifty nine dollars a month It will launch Supposedly in Florida Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Tennessee and California This month $500 activation fee Being back from Finland as I've said multiple times This makes me I don't know cry or laugh or maybe both, but yeah cry laugh cry look crawl crawl laugh. I Yes, but what's really? upsetting about this is just the fact that they are not even in league with other You know residential of similar speed, but they have two gigabits Justin Yeah, I was impressive. I'll give them that if only there was an audio representation of how hard I'm rolling my eyes right now Well rejoice then because according to ZD nets marriage of foley to celebrate the launch of Windows 10 on July 29th Microsoft will host a number of fan celebrations in 13 cities across the world Including Sydney Beijing Tokyo, South Polo London Berlin Madrid, Singapore Johannesburg Narrow B New Delhi Dubai and New York City You'll all have noticed that Paris is missing from that list What's happening there Microsoft well, they will also launch Windows 10 across 110 Microsoft stores in the US Canada and Puerto Rico with in-store events designed to help customers upgrade Sure, lots of people are going to go there and be super happy Microsoft is also expanding its list of Microsoft Surface tablet contributors From a couple of hundred to a few thousands worldwide the plans were announced today at Microsoft's annual worldwide partner conference in Orlando and one of the reasons they're doing that in-store event is because they didn't get they haven't Still got the RTM to manufacturers for Windows 10 So there won't be any Windows 10 machines in the store You'll have to upgrade them immediately after buying them Also is Seattle missing off this list Because in Seattle no one needs help to install Microsoft products So yeah, they either already work for Microsoft or their dirty Amazon employees that they wouldn't want to help. I don't know Yeah, I don't know what that means. That is weird another announcement from that partner conference passed along by Mary Joe Microsoft is going to launch a new subscription service this autumn called Cortana analytics suite Subscribers will get the voice assistant Cortana as a front-end to the following Power buy as their machine learning as their HD insight, which is Hadoop on Azure as your stream analytics as your data lake as your SQL data warehouse as your data factory as your data catalog as your events hubs and the face vision speech and text analytics pieces of Project Oxford all those will be available individually as well. So there you go enterprise developers pricing and licensing yet to be announced Can you say Azure one more time? Please just I could say I could say it five different ways And I probably just did Azure Azure as you as you both both all of them are lovely Tom. Thank you Indeed as is the Azure Drake a five drop, which gives you one card drop plus one spell damage He reports that a supercomputer based at King Abdullah University of Science and Technology in Saudi Arabia is the seventh most powerful Computer on the planet the Shaheen 2 is a cray XC40 Computer with a peak number crunching capacity of 5.536 pedoflops making it the highest ranked Middle East system in the 22 year history of the top 550 supercomputer list and the first to crack the top 10 The machine is being used for research projects modeling turbulence and engines atmospheric dynamics and renewable energy grids Yes, my typo there the top 500 supercomputer list, but China still ranks number one for the second listing in a row. So this is kind of the big news Saudi Arabia getting on the list well done Hot for security notes Facebook security chief Alex Stamos Posted on Twitter this weekend that Adobe should announce an end-of-life date for flash in order to disentangle dependencies and upgrade the whole Ecosystem at once he called for Adobe to announce it right. He didn't say that they would yeah He works for Facebook Adobe doesn't have to listen to him. You're right Adobe has acknowledged three critical vulnerabilities in flash within the last week alone So yeah, maybe it would be time. I think flash flash this time might have passed Yeah, it's kind of Adobe's it's up to Adobe to make a Gentle and elegant exit from flash They don't want to look bad and as if they can't keep their product secured although a lot of people think that And they want to make sure that the web keeps working They can't just pull the plug on support one day and abandon it because too many people still use it So this is a reasonable Recommendation, although I don't know why Adobe would necessarily have to listen to Facebook's security chief other than just Facebook Makes up a large amount of traffic on the web In a quick follow-up CSO online notes that a DEF CON talk about proxy ham has been canceled And its creator Ben Coddle will only say that the open source code and documentation will not be made public So I guess it won't be open source of the source code and documentation will not be made public Prototypes have been destroyed and that's it proxy ham was that box that would broadcast internet up to two miles away To hide your actual location. You plug it in and somewhere with an open Wi-Fi access point and rebroadcast lots of conspiracy theories running wild about why this happened and And so what are the big conspiracy theories? Well that the government got to him told him to shut it down that somebody had You know threatened, but mostly mostly they involve the government. Yeah Black helicopters. Yeah, black helicopters got to Ben Coddle is the conspiracy. I mean certainly odd. Yeah, it is it is It is curious. It's not odd for a DEF CON panel to be canceled. It's odd for something to be canceled and then like any Acknowledgment of the existence of the project to be removed from the internet Very very odd Time for some news from you Most of our stories are submitted in our subreddit at daily tech news show dot reddit comm and helps us put our line up together Every day we always highlight a few of the ones that we think are a little different than what you're seeing everywhere else Abitue la condulce sent us the artist technical report that four u.s Senators have asked the FCC to gather information on how cable and broadband providers charge their customers not asking for them to take Action just gather the information Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont noted that only 37 percent of Americans have more than one option for high-speed broadband providers The letter was also signed by Senators Elizabeth Warren Edward Markey and Al Franken and specifically called out time Warner Cable's pricing arrangements as needing a look Uh Very interesting and another side note in the mixture of politics and technology Hillary Clinton Today made mention without saying uber's name that she as president would crack down on companies that misapplied the 1099 Like status for other workers, which is really the main issue that uber faces right now So yeah, yeah, it's why ship brought all of their their employees in house was a reaction to uber getting in hot water Very curious now that you know technology is mainstream enough that these are kitchen table issues for political gain Star Fury Zeta sent us the news that Comcast will launch a new TV service called stream Which will offer all broadcast TV networks plus HBO for $15 a month streaming on your home broadband connection US residents can view the service on an app for PCs phones and tablets Recode reports that the service will start rolling out in Boston at the end of the end of this summer You come to Chicago and Seattle after that with more markets 2016 Yeah, this is kind of an evolution and if you want to hear us talk more about it I listened to cord killers to which Brian brushwood and I will record later today with Lamar Wilson But it's gone from them offering HBO plus local channels for $40 a month as long as you sign up for regular cable to will basically give you HBO For its regular price and all the broadcast channels for free and you don't have to have a cable box But then they don't have to roll installers, so it makes sense Comcast just seems like they are wildly flailing like and not to say that it's not good It just there doesn't seem to be a ton of cohesion to the movements that they are making sense the big Big net neutrality ruling over the last year or so This one seems to make a little more sense to me, but well I don't mean to say that they don't make sense But it just it doesn't it doesn't feel like there's one big plan that they're like, okay Well, here's the future like this is a good move. I think this is a good service You know you know that you say that look at it the headlines today Their plan is we must make our money on two gigabit per second broadband because we're not gonna make it on TV anymore Yeah, which is kind of crazy considering like two gigs like forever They've been telling us hey, you don't need more than a trickle You know just a little bit of internet a little do ya now. It's like no you need to buy the Costco size helping And all the while I'm what did we say like cro-la thing can't remember. It's like luck laughing And finally Scotty Rowland let us know that starting this week in direct response to Amazon Walmart.com customers can look forward to thousands of discounts on the site Special atomic deals and a decreased threshold for free shipping of thirty five dollars So basically begun the price wars have which I can also read in the voice That is going to follow right now Begun the price wars have prequel illusion just saying I'm not saying that's what it is, but it might be And that's a look at the headlines All right, let's bring in Chris Kohler author of the book power up and editor for Wired's game life in to talk with us Chris Thanks for joining. Hi everybody. Thank you for having me. I'm sorry. It has to be on such sad news But Patrick it seems like the internet is In in mourning over the passing of president of water, you know, that was somewhat surprising he is the CEO of a very powerful gaming company and Myself when I read the news I found myself, you know Taken aback and sort of emotionally affected by his passing passing and I wasn't sure why but I also Noticed that many others have Experienced the same thing the surprise included So Chris do you have maybe a reason why the death of that CEO would affect us in that way? Well, I mean first of all it came as Something of a surprise you what it was only 55 years old We we kind of had inklings that he was that his health was not doing so well But Nintendo kept it a I mean it was a you know Apple kept Steve Jobs's declining health a secret but Apple was blabbering all about it compared to Nintendo Because Nintendo, I mean it was absolute total lockdown They said he had a he had a you know a tumor basically in his his bile duct and And and then and then after that they stopped talking about it They said he had had a successful surgery And then Iwata actually showed up June 26th I believe at the annual meeting of shareholders in Japan He didn't go to E3, but he went to the meeting of shareholders Then he was there and he did the entire thing and he looked you know He had slimmed down considerably since his surgery But he seemed to be the picture of health and then and then a few days later You know he had died as a result of the complications From the cancer that he had basically and so it was a you know It's so sad because He had to have known and his inner circle had to have known That he I'm sure at some point. He was told he only had months or years left And and probably towards the low end of that And you know for everybody to just sort of put on a stone face and go out and talk about video games at E3 in the Presentation with the Muppets and everything like that. It had to be just destroying them But I mean so not only is it sad to hear because you know Iwata Did all of these live streamed Nintendo direct presentations by himself and he you know He was the face of Nintendo And everybody knew that he he had been a video game programmer that he was incredibly passionate about games He made games he programmed earthbound. He create you know He helped create Kirby's dreamland and worked on Super Smash Brothers and But the real tragedy is that he was still CEO of Nintendo and he was captain of that ship and all of this success That Nintendo had had over the past decade since he was installed a CEO in the early 2000s a lot of was due to his vision Of games for everybody, you know of him fighting as the CEO of this publicly traded massive company to keep it on the path that you know really really fight for the vision that he and Shigeru Miyamoto shared of the types of games they wanted to make and How they were gonna sell them to people and and you know as as people tried to say that Nintendo should You know get out of hardware entirely and go to you know start making PlayStation 2 games in 2002 To Nintendo should get out of hardware entirely and they should they have to start they got to put Super Mario Brothers on cell phones for 99 cents Iwata was able to Continually deliver and show them no there's there's this better way and that has been amazing for video games because when you look at what Nintendo Produces it is just completely far and away out there It is no other company is doing these these these specific types of video game experiences and To lose Iwata to lose like the person who was fighting the hardest for that is You start to see Nintendo slipping away and you really worry like Without Iwata there fighting constantly for this like what is Nintendo going to be in five years ten years 15 years? And what are we gonna miss out on that he would have that he would have provided for us that? It's quite frankly a lesser person would not be able to and that's I think that's what is kind of hitting a lot of people today Chris for those of our listeners who are not particularly gamers or followers of industry But yet no Nintendo as such a huge part of their childhood and have identity to that company Can you describe kind of what his legacy was specifically over the last ten years and and and where his? Vision really guided the company so it is it is very strange for these president CEO of Any company but especially you know a video game company in today's day and age For that president CEO to be To come out of a programming background or even a you know game design background rather than just simply you know doing the NBA and Etc because and and that's not because these people aren't brilliant. It's because it's just not their thing They want to make they don't necessarily know running being the CEO of a cover You know publicly traded major multinational corporation is it's its own total set of skills It's not for everyone. No It's fascinating that Iwata having conquered because by all accounts. He was a brilliant genius programmer I mean he you know he worked on balloon fight So I mean he was he was there in the earliest days of Nintendo. That's a very early NES game that Nintendo did And it's so strange that Having sort of hit this apex and being this like John Carmack level genius programmer He decided you know what I'm gonna now learn this totally new thing And I'm gonna learn about how to run a company and at the I mean heat when he became president of Nintendo And he was he was he was only the fourth president of Nintendo ever Since the company's founding in 1889 and he was the only person who was not from the Yamauchi family that founded Nintendo in 1889 is the playing card company So huge deal that this guy was kind of being as far as the public news sort of pulled out of nowhere To become the new CEO and his what he did as soon as he got in as soon as he got into Nintendo He started talking about we have to make games for everybody video games in tooth in 2000 2001 the PlayStation 2 era People were very high on the PlayStation 2 But PlayStation 2 was delivering one kind of experience and it was the the experience for the super hardcore player Who looked at a ps2 dual-shock controller with its like 18 19 buttons and says I totally understand this I know what I'm gonna do and the problem is there you know the other 95% of the world was was left out at this point There were no people were not gaming on their cell phones in 2002 And so you bought a was just like let's let's do a 90-degree turn here Let's let's not try to make the next piece of Nintendo hardware Let's not chase after these gamers especially because again 2002 Microsoft was was smashing its way into the video game industry with tons of money They they said let's just let's just not worry about Gamers anymore Let's let's make products to try to capture tons more people into gaming and then we can make but loads of money And it absolutely worked out people did not understand this at first I mean people really did not get what he was trying to do There was a famous sort of infamous story that ran in I think time Asia in which You know they did an interview with Iwata and they came away saying this guy wants to make and this is a direct quote thumb candy for dummies They just they just thought he wanted what he was talking about simpler games You know what he was talking about was like brain age What he was talking about was were things you know games that like anybody could get into that were deep But that were easy to control and that's why the Nintendo DS had a touch screen And that's why the Wii U used motion controls the idea of just sort of like swinging the controller and you know swinging a tennis racket You could make complex games for people But you had to do it in a way that was just easier for them that the the things they saw in their brain They could easily affect on screen and that was the introduction really of the the mainstreaming of touch screens For entertainment in general and the the biggest problem that Iwata has had or had had in the last few Years is that you know with iPhones and with tablets People were out Nintendo in Nintendo and they had picked up on what he had done and ran with it And honestly, I mean, you know if you look at the the iPhone and the touchscreen and everything like that I mean the Nintendo DS was 2004 And that was three years prior to the introduction of like touchscreen gaming on on the iPhone And it really kind of like set the path that we're on right now Yeah, I think it's really interesting to me when I looked at all the articles today How many quotes you have from Iwata about the importance of content and in fact he gives He gives credit to Shigeru Miyamoto for for teaching him that lesson and how he he said Let's not focus on what the hardware can do and pushing the hardware to its limit Let's focus on the games and what they can do and Patrick. I know you've you've followed Nintendo closely Over these years It does seem to stand out as being both the blessing and the curse of his legacy Well, there is I mean there is an argument to be made that those successes that are huge particularly with the Wii unfortunately reached a very wide audience that didn't stay So there is an argument to be made there, but what is definitely? You know the success of the Wii is Undisputable and the other thing that is very stark for in start coming very clearly from Nintendo is that love of Game design and that expertise that very frankly very few other companies reach And and I'm wondering Chris in your opinion again. How much of this love for the craft and and quite frankly Ability to design those games in a way that is Unparalleled helps keeping Nintendo at the top You know in certain ways business wise because they're still here They might not be doing super well as well as they were doing before but they've been here for the many years And they're one of the only ones that are still here and in the hearts of people who can play their games Yeah, nobody ever has constant success in the video game industry because it's such a young industry and because I mean things change every day There's always a new piece of technology some there's so many new game ideas people can come up with It would be very strange for any one company to be just like riding on the top of that industry forever You know Sony had a big drop with PlayStation 3 Nintendo had a drop in the the Gamecube era and then came back up They're having some troubles now the the long term Core of the company though has got to always be not just chasing whatever you think is important But in just constantly attempting trying to innovate and try new things and then you know Eventually you hit on something that does really well the Nintendo DS did not do super well at first But it really did well with the introduction of games like brain age You know you're always a couple of killer apps away from really changing things up and so for Nintendo to really try to hang on to to to that ability and that that method and that procedure of like Innovating and coming up with new games and making hardware because like you know You can you have to really be able to make the gaming hardware as well so that you can make them kind of harmoniously Intersect the Wii remote was nothing without Wii sports The the Super Mario 64 and the analog stick and just going back and back and back So it Nintendo has to always keep that at its core and if it can do that It can weather the bad times and it can potentially come up with another big hit huge product that Sends him into the stratosphere again It's it's video games like there's that you can always do something new you never have to worry that that everything has already been done So so not only is this a tragedy and obviously you have a lot of outpouring of grief But as you've mentioned this is a very interesting transformative time for Nintendo the company Specifically with their announcement to do their own mobile gaming and to start to get into the non-hardware tied Programming how does it water passing right now? Affect that transition and and their future It seems to me like it's the absolute worst possible time for this to happen because had he You know I mean had this been happening when Nintendo was doing incredibly well. They might have you know Okay, well we can sort of ride things out and find new leadership But it's like they needed this vision to pull them through and this is not to say I mean I'm sure that you know Iwata has spoken to a lot of people and they understand what he was trying to do And we'll try to pick that ball up and and run with it But yeah, I mean it's got to be an absolute just terrible blow to Nintendo as they continue Because they are in fact, you know, they're gonna put some content on smartphone They just struck a deal with DNA the smartphone game maker in Japan. That's gonna happen this year. They they're signing Nintendo seems to be Doing more deals than they have in the past in the past Nintendo has been very much like we're not really gonna work with you but now it's like okay Super Mario Brothers Attractions in Universal and Working with Activision to put Donkey Kong and Bowser Mario characters into their Skylanders game like that's a lot of things that were sort of unprecedented before are now happening and So yeah, I mean it's to be in this sort of tumultuous transitional period For the company has got to be pretty bad But I mean in general it's just like it's it's bad for video games Like I don't see how this is not a terrible loss for anybody who kind of like But you know is in love with this You know the medium of the 21st century and is excited about its future to lose somebody who had done so much at such a young age is It's not just like bad for Nintendo's bottom line. It's just it's terrible just for people who love games Yeah, it almost doesn't matter who replaces him. No one can replace him This is this means that a wada's brain is no longer contributing to the general development of the art, right? It's so important to mention that like like how important that is which is why I think people keep reiterating like you know This guy he might have he wada at some point might have saved your favorite Nintendo game by you know Like like getting in and fixing like literally did bug smashing on Super Smash Brothers, right? There's a famous interviewer He's become a Nintendo executive right after it was it was no longer his job, and he just saw this You know I mean it's Again like it's it's kind of like you know John Carmack in in a way You know like never wanting to lose those the programming part as you know as he kind of moved away From that or moved up the food chain, but yeah Super Smash Brothers was not going to hit its schedule And he was just like we're going to debug this game Well for the moment Nintendo is being very cautious Genya Takeda who is the hardware GM and Shiguro Miyamoto who everybody knows he's the guy who created Mario and all of that stuff Are retaining their roles as representative directors and a wada was also a representative director They are not naming a replacement at this point. They're not naming an interim They're they're taking it very slowly before we let Chris go any Any ideas it seems like Miyamoto is getting the early Conversation about getting the nod to become president. Yeah, I mean that's I should really say that's not gonna happen I mean if it does I'd be like blown away because as we said The the study of like how to run a major business like this is is not something that Miyamoto has ever Wanted to do he is a game creator and if anything he has he's trying to take steps back From because you know he he kind of like stepped down as the guy who runs the Mario and the Zelda division He's making Star Fox with a small team now and he's he's actually said he's not really participating in the creation of the NX Which is the next console that they're doing so he seems to have kind of put himself off to the side Because I think he's I think he's tired of like the grind Basically and I think wants to enjoy his time with the company and like be more creative 67 is that right something like something like that, but he is not the next CEO of Nintendo And it's probably gonna be I mean it's got to be somebody from that business side It's you know, you know and that person, you know Maybe they did have a background in game creation and sort of came over to to to business later in their career Certainly you got to hope it's somebody who has that passion for games He was you know created Nintendo games before but it's it's yeah, it's not me a lot of All right, well, thank you Chris Kohler author as we mentioned Of of the book that is coming back into print right power up. Yes spring 2016 So I'll look for that look for that and of course you could follow his work over at wired comm You do the game live podcast, right? We do the game live podcast. It's it's irregular We might do one this week, but if people want to find it, where should they go? Just go to just go to wired comm and go to entertainment and you know It's it's there wired comm slash category slash game live if you really want to get specific But yeah, or actually just follow me on Twitter. It's Kobun heat K-O-B-U-N-H-E-A-T And then I just tweet out the I tweet things excellent That's the best way to do it Chris. Thank you so much for talking with us today, man I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Absolutely All right, let's get to our pick of the day. It comes from Jamie and do before we do. Yeah, Tom Can I do very quickly? I just want to read this one quote that we've seen Everywhere from Satori what we we wanted to get to it in the during the the discussion segment We didn't basically I think this encapsulate why he was so highly regarded He when he first almost when he first came into office at Nintendo as a CEO a couple of years later He made a presentation and he said on my business card. I am a corporate president in my mind I am a game developer, but in my heart I am a gamer and that Resonated with a lot of gamers and I don't think a lot of CEOs again could have said something like that with a straight face So and well and been believed and not you know, and you know, that's the that's the difference Saying it and having people believe that you meant it. I think it's sort of his legacy All right to get to our pick of the day Jamie in BC British Columbia wanted to recommend a power line adapter if you guys don't know about parallel adapters They've been essentially extend ethernet over your power lines. He wants to recommend TP link He says you plug one adapter into the outlet by your main router run an ethernet cable from the adapter to your router Then go to the room with your device You want to hook up plug in the other adapter to that outlet run ethernet cable from the adapter to your vice? Voila you've got internet connection the adapter runs the internet using the electricity in your house and promises speeds up to 500 megabits per second for 38 bucks on Amazon. I Have heard varying things about power line ethernet, but some people claim they work I think it kind of depends on the electrical wiring in your house and the electrical system in your area But Jamie Says it works for him So if you've been wanting to have ethernet in rooms of your house without having to get into the walls And run ethernet wires this might be something to take a look at I've been using it in a couple of a different brand But I've been using it in a couple of places and it works fine for me So definitely recommend people do you remember the brand that you've been using? Devolo Devolo, yeah Send your pics to feedback a daily tech news show calm You can find my pics at daily tech news show comm slash pics Patrick Justin you guys are both being immortalized. Did you know this? Yeah, you know, I saw the beginning of what is an epic artistic representation of this fine audio program Yeah, Ryan has been laboring away just on his own On a poster that has all of us on it and and he's had some life events Interrupt him, but by gosh, he has not given up on it and he wrote to me this weekend and said the shop is up live at redbubble.com He's putting the art that he made on shirts and on posters with my permission He says the clothing comes in all sorts of styles and colors throw pillows do va covers tote bags He hasn't set up for all the money that he makes off it to go to DTNS And I've told him like dude, you want to keep a cut of it. You want to keep all of it This is your artwork do what you want with the money But he he said he's pretty convinced he wants to continue to support the show that's entirely up to him But at the very least go take a look at the art Ryan did an amazing job on this redbubble.com slash people slash DTNS gifts slash shop and he just did this all on his own I can't I can't say just how much I've blown away by the dedication here and and and the work ethic and everything So so yeah if you see Ryan around you see him on Twitter you see him in the chat room sometime Give him a nod for this good stuff Yeah, just exceptional work. It actually reminds me of the Beatles revolver cover the it's got that style to it Yeah, yeah, it looks it looks so amazing and to be part of it is just just a delight So thank you so much to Ryan. This is amazing. Yeah, thanks, man. That's it. 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I didn't want to make too much in the show, but Patrick you might have a Sensitiveness so the one thing that really surprised me not surprising, but just struck me was kind of the brevity and almost cold nature of the official Nintendo Press release and and just and I assume it's just you know those title votes coming at showbot.tv while we discuss Yeah, I assume that it's just you know anywhere between Japanese culture Japanese business culture But just like the one line Saturu Watta has died You know bile duct growth like and then just is The facts of life as opposed to a more what I would do You know you have even business press releases on stuff like that tend to be a little flowery I think I think part of it is culture. I mean sentimentality open sentimentality that way isn't usually expressed and especially for my former corporation because it's considered in polite But you know it's No for for a lot you I think at least in Western societies. There's a You know, there's a there's a propensity to kind of spin everything into kind of a emotion that people can For the better part of a you know lack of a better term they can kind of Relate to you know if someone like Steve Jobs or something you definitely have that impact, but You know, it's you can't really see everything through that lens. Oh, yeah I Understand what you're saying, but to me that just that that isn't all that remark I mean that was pretty common in the US up until like the 80s like actually they were still doing all the way to the end Of the 80s. They would say even in the UK. There's still sort of a in the press An inclination to not lionize the dead to talk about their failures as well as their accomplishments Whereas the US we've kind of tend to you know, if somebody has just died to to go easy Maybe our talk show kind of culture where we will we feed We we feed on them so much when they're alive that we feel bad Well, we we feel the need to express but it's also considered poor form to to piss on the on the grave of someone even if they were like the worst boss on the planet Because it's just considered like you you don't do that And you know, it does very even like you know as Thomas saying it differs even from closely related cultures on how people treat it so Well, I think it wasn't necessarily You know it was and not to say that anything is wrong, right? I mean it just is something that that you know, I looked at like oh, wow That was you know, and I read it as like oh, that's very Japanese to have To line this person died This is how they died and then this is how old they were as opposed to and not necessarily to lionize, right? But just like, you know, uh, this person was at the company for X amount of years He worked on the following things and he became CEO like I had this one but even like those are the lionizing we're just like a a kind of a Little bit of an explanation of who they were We have a baby. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't say You know, I'm not a full expert in this but it doesn't feel to me like this is necessarily a Japanese way of approaching it I haven't read too many press releases in Japanese But it my impression is not that oh, this is how the Japanese do it It might be in these cases very possible, but it For me, I would think it's more of just the way they decided to do it in this instance Okay, you know, I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of lines about yeah Who he was where he came from which his contributions were these kinds of things But they didn't even announce that they had a plan in place to you know Well, not at least a transitional plan. They just yeah, the people in place are gonna stay there So I don't know. I think they wanted to keep it as Short as possible and they definitely did it Yeah By the way for title, I'm just gonna make an executive decision today His game ended before its time Which was darker Demers are just perfect. That's good. No, perfect. Yeah, well done I'm gonna make a father decision and check off so I can change Enjoy So do you need me to upload video nothing or is that good? I mean, I'll do the the post I'll do the regular thing Okay But you got the regular thing. Yeah, I got the regular thing. Okay. All right. Cool. I will see you Thanks, Roger. Bye Yeah, I certainly I mean I knew that he was beloved and I knew and I you know I'd seen the Nintendo Direct and I'd even seen a couple of the Iwata asks Videos and I thought he was an interesting guy But it even took me by surprise just how sincere the outpouring was And I think part of that is not just that he was beloved for many good reasons, but also The surprise nature of it. Yeah, and he was only 55 for sure And we didn't have him like Steve Jobs We didn't have any inkling that this was gonna happen except there was a years-long bill treated. Yeah But um, yeah, and it's also, you know, Nintendo in everyone's psyche, even if they aren't active gamers It's one of the only gaming companies big gaming companies that remains from that golden period of the 80s late 80s and early 90s everyone remembers the NES or Super NES and You can't really say the same even you know for very successful companies like let's say Blizzard You remember them from the late 90s. So it doesn't your childhood in the same way or if there's you know an Atari It's not the same that as the Atari you grew up with right, you know that Yeah, Atari has disappeared Sega has essentially disappeared, you know, those those Few companies that that had the same kind of impact are not there. Yeah, Sega's even better I mean Atari is out there, but it's just a brand name now Sega's an even better example where it's still the same company But it just doesn't feel the same. Well, yeah It's not only did they let go of hardware, but they also, you know, ironically or not Last week the president of Sega issued a public apology saying that you know He had let down the fans because the quality of the games They're putting out is so low that people just don't trust them anymore and they have at least come to that Realization, but you know thinking this of Atari is Impossible, you know the oh, sorry of Sega back then they were so big and it's like you had Neo Geo and NEC with the Turbografics if you want to go a little bit more niche, but all of those have basically disappeared even square You know has merged with Enix and and square Which I don't forget that was a merger. I just think of Square Enix as one thing. You're right. I've you know Yeah, just forget, you know final fantasy it could have that kind of emotional impact, but It just even them they're still here. They're still big, but there's not it's not the same thing. So it is a Maybe the most unique company in that industry in that, you know I think we talked about a while ago and this is before they made the deal with Universal Studios that like Nintendo would be an Acquisition target for a company like Disney, you know just for the IP, you know just right well property And there have been a lot of very very popular video games There have been a lot of very very popular characters, but nobody has the enduring kind of legacy and That repeatedly creates more and more, you know that that all of a sudden there the new Zelda game is out And it's great or there's a new Mario game. They're super smash brothers that they continually successfully Renew that well for their in for further IP, which is Mind-blowing and and a lot to was such as does make you wonder And and I don't want to be too conspiratorial here, but it does make you wonder if You have a water as the kind of CEO who resists pressures to do things like famously You know moving to mobile and then porting games specifically to mobile there That's not even what they're doing with the DNA thing That when he is now no longer in charge Is part of the reason they're not rushing to give more details and rushing to name a even an interim? That they they plan to make a lot of changes that he wouldn't allow them to make I think the big question They would be exactly how ferocious and how many wolves he was keeping at bay on those issues by his force of personality And and you know that's something that I certainly don't know enough about the internal politics of that company to make a guess on but You would have to think that there are some market pressures that say you know Hey, if you were to put Legend of Zelda as a five dollar download on Google and the App Store You would make why amount of money and it would be the biggest thing in in gaming for X amount of time with just a straight port so That's well the thing is The thing is Japanese companies I mean, I don't know the internal politics of Nintendo either but Japanese companies and Japanese culture in general is Based on consensus and you cannot do anything Oftentimes actually you're paralyzed by the fact that you need everyone on board to do anything now It doesn't mean that you don't have sometimes people that you know become political and want to oust someone or take the company in a different direction But I cannot imagine that in the case of Nintendo now Iwata was moving, you know was the one person that was trying to move the company in a certain direction with everyone looking at their You know shoes and thinking ah what when he's gone. We're gonna be doing things differently, especially since Nintendo is a Company from Kyoto, which is even more traditional list than the Tokyo crowd so I have to think that He did represent the ethos of a company in a way that was shared by other important people in that company, so I would be surprised if they suddenly changed course or Altered these kinds of decisions that have kept them apart, you know from the devastation really In the Japanese game industry from from the past 15 years because it is a minefield And and there have been many many victims as we said and Nintendo is still strong out there So I don't think they would you know disavow his The direction he said from the co for the company I Don't think it would happen, but All right guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna head out, but a great show man. Yeah, well done. Thanks, sir We need this we need to do an FSL tonight recording this week. We do We can figure it out, but Wednesday, I think would probably be best for me. All right Yeah, email me or text me and we'll nail down a time Wednesday works for me, too All right, he's up. Cheers And and I'm out of the post Of all things so leave that Oh wait, I forgot to ask Roger if you would do the show I think I thought that's what he was implying. Okay That he would do his regular bit, which is usually yeah. Yeah, okay I like that. I'll let you guys figure it out for sure But that's what I took was that he was like, oh, I'll do my regular show notes, but but you'll do the video I dig it. I think that's what's going on All right. All right Well, we're gonna this is a sad day, so we're not gonna Yeah, I just don't feel it but stay tuned for cord killers immediately following our Nintendo memories