 in their way the principles. I'm also reminded of the famous quote of Mr. Mahatma Gandhi where he said there is enough for man's need but not enough for man's greed. But the greed to learn is a greed which I would say should always be there. And in this perspective, when we requested Mr. Vasanth Patwardhan, Srishtradhaar and Bidami who has also taken an earlier session with us and the way he spoke, the way he explained, it was all the awestruck and his session is doing tremendously well. Tips on translation is one of the aspects. Tips on the translation is an important perspective which we all want to understand. Is it that what we know as a mother dialect? Is simplicity to translate it as such or does it change the meaning? While I was talking to Mr. Vasanth, I was sharing with him that in a lot of cases where we do the translation, in criminal jurisprudence we normally write investigation and in civil law we write inquiry. There we write an investigating officer, here we write as an inquiry officer. But these several differences make us the difference between the entire gamut of the meanings and every word, every comma, every full stop has a different connotation especially once we translate the entire meaning could be changed. And if we can understand certain tips which can always help us to understand the translation in a better way which would help us in the high court when we have to translate the next year as an official downline and as a support, as judges working in these coordinate courts and the high judiciary. And even otherwise, if we understand the essence of the way to translate better, it will always help us. Without making much time, I would request Mr. Vasanth to take and explain the things since we all know that it's a Saturday and everybody wants to enjoy. But for some passion is to understand the things and for them that is the best way to make continuity of the week. Over to you Mr. Vasanth. Okay. Very good to all of you, those who are on direct contact with us as the recording and the live streaming is on. Good evening to all of them who are joining our live streaming also. So as our Honorable Vikas told us that today we are dealing with the tips of translation. So let us understand first what is the meaning of translation. Hindi. This is what is translation. If that is the case, so we feel that what is the importance or significance of the day. Just day for yesterday or very yesterday, 30th, we celebrated World Translation Day. Hindi. Is it just a mechanical job or is it something more than that? That we had to first realize, then we can understand it better because we start giving it due importance to it. So I have been in this field fortunately since say five years actively means professionally taking up as a job as translator and I got a chance to translate around 17 LLB syllabus books from English to Canada. I am grateful to the publisher who gave me that chance. So I am here to discuss and share with you the practical difficulties or my practical enthusiastic experiences which I came across while doing my job. So what I sincerely felt that translation is not mere a mechanical job. It is more than skill what I felt. So I put it in this way that translation is an art. If you ask me what is the difference between skill and art, I can quote an analogy that driving is a skill but driving on a highway is an art. So translation is as subtle as that. So what makes the translation that important, if you ask me, there is as such no much scope to the translator but it doesn't mean that we have to translate it. We are not supposed to do that also. When I say it is an art, then definitely there must be some scope for creativity, some scope for imagination also. So what I feel is even though a translator is restricted by the responsibility and the framework of translation, if you are able to expand yourself to the adjacent corners of the space available in that restricted space itself, your translation becomes a piece of art no doubt in that. So what all we should know or we should follow being a translator and to make translation as an art. First and foremost, as a thumb rule is we have to take up this job as a natural one. We have to take up this job as our passion. Otherwise we will not be able to do justice rather to the extent of what I am expecting or I am doing that. If you want to make it a piece of art or if you want to conclude it as an art, then you have to passionately follow this job of translation. So what I feel when I say as a natural phenomenon because the very purpose of language as we always say it is communication, it is a tool of communication. When we all are in the womb of our mother, we will not be knowing any language for that matter. But it is an experience also that we start responding to certain signals, certain topics or some response is there from the child in the womb which mother experiences and even others can do so. That is the first language or respond to the language. That is the first step of translation what is happening in that pious womb. So translation starts from there. It is the language which mother or the surroundings, the atmosphere in where mother is there and through her we are listening, experiencing, we respond. So translation starts there. Therefore we call it as a mother tongue. There is another definition. Academic definition of mother tongue is the language which you learn in your primitive days, in the schooling days and therefore it is nowadays realized and made compulsory that the primary academics or your education has to happen in your mother tongue because it goes so easy and natural than to switch over to another language and learn or try to learn, put efforts in learning those things in those languages because there a translator has to work in your brain. If it is a mother tongue, when you learn that the first time you see a mango and you learn a aam hain, then whatever languages we learn, we translate that mango, m-a-n-g-o, mango, manai, aam, it starts translating in that way and it reaches our brain, it touches our heart, we feel satisfied. This is how the translator works. That is why I told it is natural. One more thing why I told it natural that when we start, see as long as we do not go to a school, the home language, usually the mother tongue becomes our only language, but when start going to school and if we are forced by the circumstantial pressure to go to a English medium school, then if it is not my mother tongue, as I told you mother tongue, if the mother is a speaker of that language, then English also maybe your mother tongue, there is no great thing in that. If my mother is a native lady speaking native languages, Indian languages and if I am forced to go to a convent school where not only English is there as a language but as a medium of teaching, there I start feeling the hurdle because my translator is in between my brain and the language I learn, whatever I listen. My translator has to translate that and send signals to my brain. Slowly by the virtue of practice, the translator in my brain starts working faster with a greater speed and after some time I feel that the translator is not at all there. I am directly acquiring the knowledge of certain concept in the language taught to me, it is taught to me, but there are different views on this but what I feel is it happens like this. I can see the fins of a fan when the fan is static or running at a very low speed. When it picks up speed, I cannot see the fins of the fan but I can definitely enjoy the breeze of it. So, also as the translator starts working faster, the things which I listen, the concept which I start or put efforts to understand get translated with a greater speed and reaches my brain and satisfies my mind and I feel better, I feel understood. This is my concept of translation. So, I feel that translation has been happening from my birth or before my birth on this earth. Why I am stressing so much on this naturality of translation is we should take it also in the same fashion because if I try to do something unnatural, then I become extra conscious and I am likely to commit mistake or I am likely to sound artificial. So, also even I can quote some more examples on this. Even though I become graduated in English, taking English as my subject, major subject, throughout I have been studying in English, English medium and I settle in England. Then also if I stumble upon a stone heavily, then suddenly the thing which comes out of my mouth, which we call it as interjections will never be, oh my God, it is always if I am a Marathi guy, it will come as I, are Baba, Amma Gay, why so? Why so? Because at that particular moment, I do not apply my brain. It is from the edge of the spinal cord I am speaking. That is an action. That is a natural one which we learn in grammar as interjections. They are the words to express our sudden feelings. So, sudden feelings even after learning English for 20 long years and getting a big degree in that doesn't come handy or come natural when I stumble upon a stone, when I get frightened suddenly. My mother tongue works. The translation doesn't come into picture. When I become conscious, suppose say in a society in England, if I get conscious, then I may say, oh Jesus, oh my God, it is a conscious one. It is not a sudden one. It is not a natural one. That's why I personally believe because there are, as I told you, there are many different ideas and study results on this. I personally believe a translator unknowingly works and whenever it works very naturally, whenever it works faster, it brings in an impression that there is no translation at all. Person is understanding as expressing in the language he is speaking as he is assimilating. So, translation is of that, you know, important or say basic to a human being. And very recently, I think 2018, a very big institution of America has clearly told that means they have allowed, they are recognizing a person translating into his mother tongue alone from any other language which is known to him. But the translation has to happen in his mother tongue. Means if I know English and Kannada, I can translate English to Kannada at the most Kannada to English, not more than this. Means if I learn Japanese, means they are, they are not recognizing, they are not feeling fit that I am, I mean, I am able to translate between Japanese to English and English to Japanese. That much of importance is given to mother, I mean mother tongue because I can best understand the language which, which I have heard from the um level, which I have heard from the school level. Otherwise, for example, when I was talking to Vikas, two days ago, I have worked in the army because of this, by the virtue of my 20 years of long service in northern belt, I was told at that time, you are Kurkurya, your Hindi is very good. But when I started talking to Vikas, he said, you are taking the translation lesson, but your Hindi seems a little weak. Why it happens so? Because it is a learned language. It is a learned language. It's, it erodes, it evades, it masks by disuse of that particular language. Even after 20 years of long service into Hindi belt, So, this is the difference. This is the difference between the natural translation and an artificial looking translation. When you want to make something, a piece of art, please make sure that you are doing it in a best possible way, in the best possible language you know. Because when I say, I know a language, it's my mother tongue. When I proudly say that, I know a language, it means I have got command over three things. One, the words of that language. I have a word for a particular situation, for a particular feeling, for a particular thing, even in its innovative, modified form, I know, I know, I have got a suitable word for that. Then what I know is the grammar of that particular language. I know the grammar, I know the limits, restrictions and freedom of arrangement of the words I know. I know the rules of the language. So, grammar is in the previous lesson also, in my previous lecture also, I have emphasized on this, that grammar is the law of language. I know the law of that particular language. That is the second thing. The third thing is the style. I have been with the language, I have read the literary works in that language, I have met many people. I have spoken in that language to many, you know, learned people, many mediocrers, many illiterates and my language and style has evolved. So, that makes a difference. That plays an important role in knowing my language. Everywhere there is something to learn. It is not only with the learned people, a literary giant, no. Even an illiterate guy can teach you something better in the language. Very new words. When I came across translation, you know, for your kind information, for the information of all, that there is a translation paper in judicial examination of Karnataka as well as the PSI examination. Even I feel there is a translation paper in IS and IPS also. So, when I started teaching, when I started taking those classes of translation, I came to know that there is much more to learn because in the translation there, we get challenges like the local language. You can't say this is a localized word, I don't know. So, even an illiterate can teach you. Even an illiterate teaches you the style of the language. So, as I told you, if you say I know a language, you have to have three things at your command. One is words. Second, the grammar. Third, the style of that language. In a simple way, what is style? Style is the freedom of using the same words in the given rules, set of rules that is grammar. That is the freedom, whatever freedom you can take without compromising with the grammar and without bringing a single word from outside. And the biggest responsibility is to communicate. Language is not a monologue. Language is always a dialogue. It is a tool for communication where you express and you get the feedback. It is you should be satisfied that your words have reached the other person you wanted to communicate. So, that is knowing the language. What a translation is big about is this. You have to have command over two languages in which you are doing this job. In all our Indian context, if I talk, it is always from, say, English to the Indian languages because of the historical reason and the fact that the material, study material of all higher education is available in English because of the colonization, because of the industrial revolution which took place when we Indians were slavery in slavery. So, nothing evolved. And there are innumerable reasons we can list of them. But today is a condition that if you want to reach the pinnacle of any faculty, you have to have a good command over English. If you are feeling difficult to understand, translate it into your language and understand. But when it comes for expression, translate it back and express, gain that capacity. It is not only because told in his lecture that we are translating to make someone understand what we have written, what are the pleadings submitted in the court. No. It is other way around also that whenever we read a book, whenever we want to understand something new, we translate it in our own language and get satisfied. Yes. Ab pata lagya deko. Ab a gayi baat samajmi. Ye jab hota hai, this satisfaction what we get when it reaches our heart and it reaches our heart, what I feel personally through only our mother tongue. So, this translation is a continuous process. It is an ongoing process. When we take it up as a profession, when it becomes a professional requirement or compulsion, then we have to have all those tips at our fingertips, at our tongue tips, at our mind to make it a better translation. Because it becomes a common platform, if you translate a topic and leave it on the table, leave it on a social media, it has to be understood by people and respond and understand. So, there comes the requirement of the tips to make people understand, to communicate your thoughts. So, we have to have, as I told you, command over both the languages. One is the English in that. Second is our Indian language. There is a very peculiar thing, peculiar difference rather in English and our Indian languages, including Sanskrit to some extent, that when we take up a sentence, equivalent words as I told you, words, collection of words is a lifelong process. Because innumerable words get obsolete year by year, taken out of the dictionary and thrown away, no more in use. Absolute is that, obsolete is that. It is a process in the dictionaries, English dictionaries. And some words get added to the dictionary every year from all the languages, from all the languages. They are so liberal that they have even taken Gutter, Chetty, Aunty, the wrongly spoken word also into English. Because they believe that if they want to make it an international language, internationally accepted language, they have to open their doors and windows, keep it open always. Earlier it was aunt, which was a right word in English. But the users pressed it to be Aunty, Aunty. Why now they have accepted along with the spelling, Aunty. Let Aunty be there in our dictionary. So, all these new additionals and the words which are thrown away, make this job of collection of words, enhancing our dictionary, glossary, a lifelong task for us. But being a translator, I have to have the right word. So, I should be always abreast with the new words, suitable words to my profession at least, whichever I am doing, whichever topic I am translating. The second is, the biggest difference between English and Indian languages I was referring to was the construction of the sentence. In all the English, I mean, in all the Indian languages, the constructor of the sentence is this, that we first put the subject, then we put the object. Then we say or we place the word of that sentence. Now, let us understand a bit about this than to, when such seminars are conducted, it is conducted for a general public. So, please don't feel that I am teaching too low a thing or too general a thing. It may enlighten you also sometimes. Work will all know in a sentence. Work, an action showing work. So, whenever as a translator or as a linguistic person, we have to get hold of that work. Then ask a question to that work. Who is the doer? You get the subject. Then ask a question to it. What? Suppose it is a word. You ask it, ask that work, it, what? What is written? You get something if it is there in the sentence. Rama eats is a full sentence. If you ask if there is a word, Rama eats a mango, then you can ask and get an answer a mango by asking the word, what Rama eats? What? I have to use a interrogative pronoun, what? To get the answer. That becomes my object. Or in some cases, in some verbs, like say help. I may not get direct answer by asking what help? No. Whom. I have to use the word whom. Kisco. So, I get an answer. I, Rama helps. My brother. My brother is the answer. My brother becomes the object of the sentence. What I was referring to earlier is this that in all Indian languages, I say Rama eats fruit. Rama is a subject. Because if I ask, who eats, I get an answer, Rama. When I ask, what does he eat? I get an answer, it becomes my object. And he eats as you know it is Kriya Darshaka. So, Rama eats fruit. Rama eats fruit is my sentence. And when I translate it, just see the difference. I have to translate it as Rama eats a fruit. It is not Rama, a fruit eats. This is the basic, main and the most big hurdle in translation. All Indian languages, we write in the fashion, subject, object, verb. But when it comes to English, it is subject, verb, object. Rama eats. Then if it is there a fruit or any other details for that matter, when the sentence becomes longer. So, this difference makes it difficult or it is a challenge to a translator when I translate from English language to the Indian languages or vice-versa. Number one. Number two, whenever you take a sentence and understand the meaning of it, we have got almost 12 tenses. We have got three tenses and there are sub tenses in each of one of them, four sub tenses. It makes it 12 tenses. So, I should know the verb form because it is a verb which changes as per the tense of a sentence. Like we say, vartman kaal, bhut kaal, bhavishat kaal, its four parts change. It is only the verb. The verb form. So, if I say, if I give you an example of vartman kaal, then when I say, I eat a fruit, nafal kata hu is simple present tense. So, I should know that I eat a fruit, he eats a fruit, they eat a fruit is in simple present tense. Then only we can translate it in proper Indian language, putting the right form or the verb in that particular language. I can never write and become successful or rightly translate by writing that, I eat a fruit is my fal kha raham. No, fal kha raham, our fal khaata hu mein bahut padantar hai. To ye jo baara form mein kahra raham, tenses ke, iske mere apne language mein uske pure translation mere pas chahi. And at least I have to, you know, understand or learn it for at least one or two verbs and I can apply it to all the verbs which I am using or which I will come to know in future. It remains the same, but I should know the right form as per the tense. Then only I can make justice to that translation. It is the most neglected part otherwise, kyunki jab hum apni bahasha mein baat karna shuru kar pe, hum samashta to hain achi tara se. Lekin hum itni, matlab kya kayaate ho usko hum thoda casual ho jaapne, we take it for granted. We start talking in that language without applying any or without giving any importance to the grammar of the language. Ver form to nahi nahi nahi. Samaj rahe nahi baat. Ho gaya nahi? To kya hai? Khata hum kha raho baat samaj rahe ho nahi? So we come to that level. But this cannot work in translation. Translation requires that particular tense to be reiterated. So we should have a complete knowledge of tenses of both the languages in which you are working. And I am saying that it will have to be understood and there is no other way. It will have to be learned. Whenever I get a chance, whenever Mr. Vikas is taking out from his busy schedule and says something about English, he has to do partitions, he has to do some webinars. So this is what I am saying, sir, drama. But I have already said that the word drama has become a little allergic. But unfortunately or fortunately that is the base of every job, every language and here you have to have that grammar of both the languages. That is what is translation. Now the second thing after the grammar of that particular thing is about the construction part when I, when we go deeper into the construction part, when I say Ram phal khaata hai, yeha khaata hai ek kriyapada hai, Ram eats a fruit. Especially even in our legal books, we feel the para's end after without a full point. What I mean to say is the sentences are so long, stretch so long that para with around 10 lines go without a comma or without a full stop in that. So what is that? Rama phal khaata hai, phal bahut mithaata, to ek kaha hai, and when the legal books run in para's without a full point, what is that? It is the kinds of sentences that is again a grammar. If you don't want me to use that again and again, I shall take care of that. But it is a part of that, it is simple sentence, compound sentence and complex sentences. So when it is a simple sentence, the translation becomes easy. But when it comes to compound sentences, we get stuck a bit. When it becomes a complex sentence, then phal khaata khaata khaata hai. Samajna bhi translation to aadur ki baat. It is a complexity of the sentences which makes our job difficult. So we have to have clear idea what are these complex sentences in English and their equivalent in our own language or in the language which we are going to translate. Compound sentences are joined by the words and it is easier than translating a complex sentence. Because compound sentences are the one where the simple sentences are joined deliberately by the words like and or but etc. So when you get a complex sentence or a big sentence, let us say, see that are the sentences joined with these words in between somewhere? Is there a word and or but then your life is easier. Because a compound sentence can be translated by translating a sentence before and and after and and join them with the same and in Hindi or you can translate and join them. But this is not the case with the complex sentences. Complex sentences have two or more clauses and these clauses are also segregated into main and subordinate clauses and the subordinate clauses depend upon the main clause for the completion of their meaning. This makes it more complex for a translator. Because if you want to keep the spirit of the sentence, if you want to keep the strength of the sentence, then it is very difficult to translate as it is and keep it. No, the strength gets down or there is some distortion rather. If you are translating in the way they have given, as it is, there is a difference in the construction of the sentence. And in case of complex sentences, the major thing what happens is the subject and the word where English it comes side by side or adjacent to each other in the given sentence in any of the Indian languages, they become pull apart. Lot of sentences, lot of words, lot of phrases, idioms come in between these two and you cannot understand the head and tail of it. So, we should be very conversant with these forms of the sentences in both the languages, simple, compound and complex sentences. Then there are some differences if I put it or rather I say, I call them as limitations. But it is so difficult to translate these words. You may not believe to English. You can't say I read my brother. These are the limitations of that particular language. That I run, I run, I read, I read can't be translated. The verbs in English do not work both the sides. It doesn't mean that it is poor language. It is a weak language, no. There is no form of such construction. So, if I say I run, then I say I run. When I say I run, then you have to use the separate verb together. That is I chase, I make it to run, I help my brother to study, I help my brother to read. The answer is in English, that Ram is the first son of Dashratha. So, when I say limitations, we have to be very careful and do justice to that. And put it in a much better way to make it communicable. Then, I think there is some tradition, there is some culture. Language is not just a group of words. Language represents a culture. Language represents a civilization altogether. That is why we are so much concerned when a language dies. We become alert, we protest because a culture dies when a language dies. So, there is a language, a respect in our Indian languages that if I say in Hindi, then I will say you. When I say way, way is the majority of this community and it is accepted to be a majority. If I say it and when I say it in English, way. I do not have equivalent in way. So, I make a mistake when I translate. What I do? They have agreed upon to preside over the function. They, when I say it, then there is no word to give respect or to give respect. They, when it is more in counting, when it is more in counting, when it is more in counting, then there is a pronoun to use at that time. You can't be translating way. Let him be prime minister of the nation. You have to tell. He has agreed upon. He or she, if he is only one in number. So, this cultural difference, it will have to be kept in mind. Only the language needs to be learnt, their culture needs to be learnt. When we say, when we translate, some words like which start comparing, you know. So, we know Hindustani, it is a standard one. But it is not in English. It is not as white as milk. They say as white as snow. They don't say because in their culture. They say as bitter as garl, garl means pith. So, this difference, I mean, in our bhajans, why do I say culture? Like in our bhajans, it is said, Jal se patla, kajal se kala, bhoomi se bhaari, it is in our bhajans. That is why it is in culture. A comparison, a standard comparison. In English, it is not like this. English has its own culture. They always see the snow dropping from sky. So, they say as white as snow and definitely the pure snow which drops. Because I have worked in Leh and I can say with that experience that it is the whitest thing I have seen. So, this cultural difference, we had to, you know, handle rather. A translator has a responsibility to handle these cultural differences properly. Or, as I am giving you an example, so, exclamations, as I was saying, preposition, conjunction, interjections which we call. When it comes to interjections, it is a sudden feeling. So, somebody makes a sudden feeling in English and I have to translate it. So, I should know what that word stands for. It has come off his mouth suddenly without any thinking. But I should know the equivalent of that. Every language is different. For example, I never say the name of God, the name of God, I don't say the name of a beautiful person. It is very beautiful. But I say it in Urdu. Mashallah, it is his language, it is his culture. So, if I ever say the name of God, it will be something bad. What will happen? What will happen to Ram? So, the things that are in those interjections, alas, so alas is a great loss, a great loss, it comes off his mouth at that time. So, it is very important to be aware of it. Otherwise, we will fail as a translator. So, I was saying that we should be aware of their culture also. We should be aware of their culture also. For example, in a joke, it is a darling word. Darling. When we say darling, it comes off the mouth of some young people. We feel shy. But darling in them means, we don't say our children with great love, Sonu. My son, my son, that is how it is used. Darling. But we, darling, have reserved it for Mashukah. So, when these words are used, and we get them to translate, we should be aware of what are their other sides. What are their other shades? In the book of Indra Gandhi, I remember, I read this, it was published in his father's book, Father's Letter to His Daughter. So, he mentions that I went to somebody's home. I saw the child, what a darling she is. What a darling she is. She is so beautiful. So, we should be aware of the different shades of the words. We should not get to know that we are right on it. Right? Then, words, as we were saying, even though we had to translate words in literary, but when it comes to the literary, the literary requires that. When I translate a cross, when I translate an evidence, I struggle to translate it into English. Because, it is very difficult to bring back the power behind the curse into English. It is very difficult to bring back the power behind the curse into English. But here comes the challenge. Here comes the importance and makes a piece as an art. So, and it happens many times when a translator becomes like a doctor. What do you call it? We look at the body and we get hungry. When you start translating, you get so awkward words, odd words to translate. We feel ashamed of how to translate it. So, this is a challenge. So, this is a challenge of a translator. It is to be taken as a challenge. Find out the right words, they are there. They are there, most of them are there. Even though it is not about the curse, but like the pubic hair which we call it, which is the hair of the private part. If it is said and you have to translate it, you have to use the same word, pubic hair. You cannot say hair by saying you can't skip that. And we are not here to skip that. So, the work of translating is to know. It may be a biological word, but it is a word of that particular language. So, we have to pay attention to them. And when it comes to the experts, in terms of culture, language, history, the history of the language has come from there. There is a common idiom that crocodile tears don't shed crocodile tears. So, we all know the story of the monkey and the crocodile. So, we say don't cry yes, it works. But when he says he is kicking the bucket. If it is given in language, so and so he is kicking the bucket. So, no. I should know the history behind that. Kicking the bucket is a colonial word. When they, under the regime of colonization, had such a bad education that a man used to go to Uub and he used to keep a bucket upside down and hang it on it. Whatever material he has got he used to try to fight. When the last moment he used to kick the bucket under his feet. So, it is the last page of a person is described by the word kicking the bucket. He is kicking the bucket means he is standing on the edge of death. He is going to die soon. So, we will not know if it is such a great thing. We are not in our culture. We have never colonized. We don't know this word. Translator should know how it came. Should I put it in a different way? Otherwise, it is like what is happening in WhatsApp. This is where the Google fails to translate. Otherwise, Google translator will be like us. Google fails because of this. They don't understand this. Do not urinate here. Do not pass urine here. When they do Hindi or I saw it in Kannada actually, it is said that you cannot get out of here. Something like this has happened. In Kannada it is translated like this because this is the difficulty for that particular translator. You have to apply your mind which is not there in the Google. You need a continuous involvement. That is why I am telling you it is not a mechanical job. After this, if you translate it, it means challenges or tips which I am telling you these all should be there. These all preparedness should be there when we translate. It is a local word which means as we said we washed it. It washed my brother. What does it mean? If you don't know the local thing it is very difficult. Like, damn it I said it in English if somebody says, damn it. So, I saw a very good Hindi translation which I call that is a damn it. Damn it. So, it is very good that we get some local words or mediums which we are getting otherwise it is very difficult to get the equivalent words for the local words. So, a translator for the local words like I am in a legal translation so, I should be very much aware of the local words which are spoken in judiciary which are being used frequently. Even a normal word like words which are called degrees like chill water cold water, warm water lukewarm water tippet water hot water perching water and I can't call it hot water if somewhere it is told hot water is hot tippet water is also hot lukewarm is also hot lukewarm is also hot lukewarm is also hot no there is subtle differences in that and I should be able to find out the right words for that and I can be a successful translator otherwise it is difficult anybody can do it like many people speak Hindi translation will be so easy then I was saying that you don't need to celebrate translators day if it is that easy job ok so I have found as a translator that like in my office office I had a board and I can never forget that in my life that I am yet to come across the best which cannot be better let me repeat it for the benefit of all of you I am yet to come across the best which cannot be better if whatever translation is also a literature work we don't have to understand less otherwise that passion will not be there there is no small thing translator that is why I am telling you so there is no limit that the best translation has been done you cannot say that there is always a scope there is always a room for improvement so there is no need for improvement in the second time when you get a second chance of translating the same sentence or the same word you can have that particular word being used in your second chance you can meet your own goals in translation especially I am more in legal translation and I am trying but I have experienced this that in translation in my own language in Kannada and Kannada to English I can do it easily and effectively and according to you which I am addressing the Hindi belt according to you what you have taught me I can say that I can translate Hindi or Kannada why am I telling you that whenever you learn a language if you are interested in translation please see that are you able to translate this one into other languages which are known to you or which are useful the way of translation is always going on in your mind what can be its equivalent otherwise also remember that whenever you get it into your brain what do you feel? as if someone is reading Kabir's first reading I don't understand as if we break it break a word as if we start looking for a simple experience then a whole a sentence when it is ready at that time it seems that the heart has reached when it touches your heart and satisfies you fully the job of the translator is to reach to the person's heart make him understand and not only understand but also to the satisfaction we have to translate so as I have told you all of this I have taken it from here as I was saying that it is a hello word which we pick up the phone and say hello what is this? hello is an interjection are you there? there is so much behind hello and whenever we translate what do we do? they pick up the phone and say hello that is what we write so behind it where is that feeling are you there? hello is this hello is used to say hello hello listen this is not actually so the reality behind a word and the practical reality by the virtue of its usage we should learn to differentiate between it then only we can be a better translation and that work can be a better translation and we can be claimed as a better translator so as I was saying that what is written to explain to someone and what is being presented on which you are doing your signature we do not have all the information we do not have all the studies in this world so we have to explain to their level is a big thing we have to learn otherwise like papers this translation for that your career compulsion so we have to learn whenever we have to learn my sincere request is to pursue that to take it up as a passion nothing less than that so I thank you all for your patient listening Mr. Shatras to give me an opportunity to put forth all my ideas behind the work of translation thank you sir as you explained translation has its own meaning one of the famous offering which we speak in the legal parlances there was a rape case and they were said in the fields of Rabi and Johar and it was translated that Rabi and Johar were standing when the rape was done and the court said that since they were the eyewitnesses and they were not examined and they were exonerated so the entire gamut depends upon the word its used first I told you as investigation inquiry there are a lot of words as you said the more you study the more you get assimilated the more muscle brain you run there are a lot of judgements and immediately like for the translation also sometimes the entire meaning changes and in the normal there is also another saying that translation is very tough like if you remember in the childhood it used to be say Charana that is one fourth of one rupee they said the Charana they said what is the translation for the same and I have still to find if you could tell me it is chat is I study please give me the translation no I study I study you are asking me is that it yes sir as it is one word is different as I was saying I fear but I fear no you cannot use the word fear there is a threatened word which we have learned in Pussycat Pussycat what did you do I frightened the little mouse under the chair so fear is done I fear I frighten I scare similarly I read I study I help my child to read I study there is a colloquial language in the distant areas of England where it is said that I read my brother I walk my mother so this is their own word as the colloquial language you cannot write it and convince somebody that it means if you say I read my brother I teach my brother so you have to say I help my brother to read I study one of my friend has just sent me a text that today's topic is good to understand the grammatical translations thank you sir friends it's always a pleasure hearing Mr. Vasanth and we will keep on bothering him not even bothering because he has a passion to teach take things forward where we can actually understand the nuances I was just talking to one of the judges and one of the speakers to the effect that what could be the effect of translations he says the meaning could be and or or what is this subtle difference between the two some subtle differences between the comma and full stop we will take certain sessions which have very very final nuances to be understood and it's always the more you practice the more you understand of that thank you everyone stay safe, stay blessed and on Monday we will be having a session you stay connected with us on whatsapp group thank you thank you Sanjeev thank you thank you thank you