 We are Africa was officially launched in 2008 here in Nairobi at a meeting actually much smaller than this and we have an old photograph where we all look very young and very center and all of our hair is black but that was some time ago. And but I do think that by having focused on establishing longer-term relationships with just a few universities it's enabling us to draw up lessons that are hopefully valuable to you all but more importantly it will be valuable to the higher education community at large. It suddenly dawns on you that we really have to think about curricula when we thinking about the future think about curricula which are much more integrated which are much more kind of designed around employment and so on rather than imagine that what you know traditional ways of training are going to be suitable to me it's not wrong to start off with asking the question about what is wrong but to me it's that's the deficit approach where I would rather take an innovative idea and see how I can experiment with that and how can I transform practice and transform myself that is where it should start.