 I'm so delighted to be talking with Dorota Godfrey. We always have deep conversations when we can. And so thank you Dorota for being here, for doing this. I'll just give you, well, so for those who are watching, this is one of the interviews that I do with some of my clients and we will be checking in with Dorota several times during the year. And just kind of talk about the learnings and the progress that's happening in her business. So Dorota, let's start with introducing your business to us. However you wanna share about it today is great. Some years ago, the term gentle power came to me and I kind of knew that these were my marching orders. And so I really love supporting people who are solopreneurs, professionals who are naturally highly sensitive because they thrive on that type of approach to life and work life, gentle power. And typically they struggle with overwhelm, feeling frazzled, pulled into many directions. And I have a love of creating order and bringing grace into chaos and plotting the path, kind of customized individual path through the jungle. So I love having kind of reviewing and realignment conversations with people that can be useful in wherever there is a review and realignment that's due, whichever area of life or work life or relationships that I can also be useful there. Wonderful, wonderful, thank you so much. Just one second here. And I'm just mentioning your background is a real background. These days of course, a lot of people have virtual backgrounds and I think your background is lovely and that's a real one, right? So well, there's lots we can talk about. I'll let you start wherever you like. Thank you and you sent me some notes in advance and there's just a lot of good stuff there. So where would you like to start? It's interesting this context and whether it's only for the community or other people kind of matters, doesn't it? But in general, we're talking about the learning about the better business practice and our insights about that. Yes. And well, maybe I'll start with a kind of a mini story because I had a colleague conversation from the community recently and we exchange sessions and I received a sole alignment session. One of those, you know, that sort of illuminates your gift. Yeah, and just, I'm sorry, just so that when you say community for those who are watching this because some of those are watching this on YouTube, Dorota is in the authentic business community program that I run that has, you know, specific, you know, heart-based, solopreneurs, more spiritual entrepreneurs in there. And so when you say you met with a community member, it's somebody in that group program, yeah. And there was a new piece of information about me having a relationship to healing through dream work. I haven't done much of this, but, you know, doing my homework, I started a dream journal. And two days ago, I had a dream in which I heard someone directly looking at me and saying, you don't know how powerful you are, do you? And this was, you know, it's kind of funny how synchronicity or, you know, when the student is ready because that's one of the questions I've been looking at about how our biggest gifts and where we are most useful or powerful, how this is the most hidden part of the picture often. And I, you know, for clients, I always see it in clients, but of course, like, you know, and there's been so many of those personality profilings and various readings and healings I've undergone over the years. And still there is one of my recent discoveries was in that department, in relationship to my work. And my overall mission and hope is that I will finally come out of hiding with my work and, you know, be useful to more people. That's my kind of purpose for the yearly business community journey. And so that was kind of one of the little, you know, not just that I got, but another one was, and I'm here to write an article about it because George, you don't know this, but I, about two weeks ago, I became an overnight success. And not completely in the way that people talk about it. And not that I was expecting it, but I was cooking one day with YouTube as I do and, you know, listening to something of interest in this occasion, it was human design, illuminating some circuitry or other. But the point is, it was about the relationship to success and what your particular definition of success is. And, you know, I listened to it was like something started circulating through. I woke up the next day and reviewed that information by actually writing out the bullet points that related to me. I looked at the list and was dumbfounded because one of the struggles as someone who has got a kind of sensitive trajectory, which means long incubation and sort of becoming more empowered later in life. I kind of see that a lot with sensitive. So it seems to be happening to me as well. So, but in that long incubation, there could be a lot of anxiety and a lot of, you know, self-doubt about maybe I've got it wrong. Maybe I really am a failure. You know, it's kind of comparing my insights to other people's outsides and all of that. And so I've had those seeds of anxiety about my own results, despite so much learning and so much training and so much, you know, experimentation and everything. And in that list, I ticked all of those, you know, this was why I had to kind of go, you know what, by my own standards, I am a success and it literally was from anxiety about being a failure to I am a success because not only I tick all of those boxes, I live by them, I prioritize things by them. I always have, this is, you know, my relationships are sort of organized that way and my work is organized that way and my pleasure, it really was. So I'm still integrating what this means. And then, you know, a few days later, dream comes and tells me you don't know how powerful you are. And you know, it's like, it's everywhere, everywhere I look now, it's, so there's a kind of curiosity in me now about what it looks like to approach the same learning trajectory and, you know, our course assignments and the colleague conversations. But from that new place of standing in a more of a sense of my own wholeness and calm and kind of, you know, really a sense of sovereignty rather than that always me go that, you know, this what if it's not working out and it will not work out. So it's beautiful. And you know, and add to this that my garden, I have, I choose three garden qualities of being for the year. And one of the ones that are guarding my 2023 is divine, high self-esteem. And they are just working on me, you know, because it's all like just, it's not even anything that I am doing in particular. It's a kind of, you know, a habit in my peripheral vision as the reference or a prayer to turn to, but these things that are beginning to come, it's really beautiful and I love it because of course, this is nothing new to me. This is what happens when I work with clients, but, you know, it's like, that's always hardest to see for yourself and to have a sense of those better options and, you know, one's own beauty, it's hardest to see in power. It's hardest. Oh my gosh, it's so much richness there, what you just said. Well, first of all, I don't know if you often have those kinds of dreams or not, but I'm like, oh my, which I had more meaningful dreams like that, but that's really amazing. The success thing that you said, you kind of ticked off the boxes and realized that, wow, you have been, well, you know, authentic business is what I talk about. And the means that the metric of our success or the definition of it has to be unique to us rather than, you know, what's seen out there, six-figure, seven-figure, whatever number there might be, but it's like there are certain, I don't know, it could be habits we're trying to develop or like experiences we're trying to have or little projects that we want to get done or big projects or whatever, it's like, if we can, if we had that, my intention and then we did it or we experienced it, then we should celebrate along the way and like you said, that long incubation period, it makes me so curious because it's like, incubation towards what? It's like, is the end goal or vision too much to expect in terms of a certain timeline or can we, I guess, chunk them down really? And which is why you're doing even in our group community program, you've been doing these group hangouts called the Compassionate Monthly Review, right? So it's like, we could celebrate every month, I hope, right? Yeah, we can appreciate our progress every month. Tell us a bit about that actually. So that's one of the things, and people are attending, people seem to have enjoyed it, those who attended. So, and then you're using the process yourself. So tell us a bit about that. This is because, you know, the hardest thing, we are surrounded by experts, by trainings, by examples, by world issues, you know, and all those different areas of our lives, you know, mind, body, spirit. But the hardest thing to do is to calibrate all of it for your own reality and, you know, plot the course that is relatively simple and doable and energizing amongst, you know, through the jungle. That's the hardest thing to do. And of course add all of the traumas and the learned dismissals that, you know, we carry, that it's hard to do and have a positive experience with rather than, you know, shame or guilt or a sense of being behind all of that. And this is what I discovered that, and that's another kind of clarification about, you know, our individual alignment about what works for us. So I'm definitely not a goal-orientated step-by-step girl. I am an emergent, gradual development with regular reviews. This is what I learned. And so if I really deeply review, whether it's a month or a quarter, it gives me so much clarity and, but on the level that really I can see the path through the jungle. And then I don't overdue and don't over stress and don't over reach. So because this is so powerful and actually joyful, then I, you know, I really recommend this to others, especially people who are working in a more organic way, more creative, more spiritual. Those kind of, you know, peace rather than jays on the Myers-Briggs. This is hardest to, because we compare ourselves to the kind of more left brain norms in the world and can always feel hard to feel that sense of success or self-esteem because we cannot do it that way anyway. And this reviewing and the gentle realignment feel so much more kind of, you know, more aligned with kind of how my system is configured and also the evidence of progress or where something needs to change is kind of, and kind of more accessible that way. So, you know, it wouldn't work for everyone. There are people who are motivated by stress or by direct going for something and deadline. You know, there are those who get energy in their bodies then. It's not for everyone necessarily, but I swear by it. So, yeah, it was so joyful. People were really happy because it was, you know, if I ask a really good questions and hold lovely, gentle energy for people inquiring themselves and then getting witnessing, then it really that emergent insight comes through. And you know, I kind of, when I know I kind of had this sense that a little bit of how those spaces happen and how I work with clients, that it's a little bit like, remember in the 90s, stereograms were so popular, those pictures where you were kind of, if you could relax, you could see the 3D depth in the picture. They were kind of like, there's lots of patterns, but you had to relax in order to see the depth. Yes, yeah, there's a picture. Otherwise, if you didn't, it just looked like squiggly lines or whatever. Yes, and it looks kind of flat. And today, as I was, I wanted to look up that reference so whether that's the right metaphor to explain what I mean. And I learned that apparently, because we used to do them for fun, but apparently people discovered that they now, using them can improve your vision and help you with stress relief. So there is something about relaxing and seeing the depth of your own picture that allows you actually to have better state and better progress, better stamina, be it vision or otherwise. So it really is, but it's the hardest thing to do because look what happens. We are just torn apart by various course here, recommendation there, a to-do list elsewhere. And there's the hardest thing to do is to relax and to interact with your own pictures and not with those what my natural advantage colleague calls injected ideals. Now that, and it's the hardest, you know, it's the hardest with people we love or admire because then it's very hard not to kind of try to be like them rather than be in relationship with your own power gift trajectory. This is a very important message and it's not said enough. Especially those who are watching or listening to this, we love to learn. We love to admire others and gain from others' teachings and experiences and wisdom and resources. And it is too easy to, well, give our power away. I mean, no one even realized we're doing it. And so I really love that you're bringing this idea in. And earlier you said, divine self-esteem. That is something, that is, say more about that. And what are you, how are you working with that? What are you learning about that? The languaging of it comes from Sufism, which is one of my friendships in my life because they refer to the qualities of being as divine names or divine qualities. That the notion being that they are not manufactured by us or something that we do, but something that we make ourselves available to and therefore can experience and transmit into the world. And I love that way of referencing it because otherwise I could not, even human high self-esteem, I've struggled with in life being a minority trait and being all these things that are minority, a girl and a foreigner and not grew up in poor circumstances. All of these things that do not add up to high self-esteem as the world of Caesar would have it. So even that was hard. But to align with the kind of self-esteem, you see, when those qualities come to me, I don't, they come to me as assignments or kind of ways to access more liberation, but I don't, it takes me a year to grow into them. So this is where February, I'm just beginning to get those lessons and those relaxations into what this means. And the stories I told, that was kind of how it's beginning. But of course as someone who has, I am a six two in human design. So this is someone with distinct three life stages and pretty much hell on earth to start with and then deep investigation to heal that and make sense of that. And then finally coming out and being useful in the marketplace, really being visible and impactful for all of the lessons you've learned. And I kind of really recognize this in my own life. But what this means is that I've been digging and in secret to find those things and not going, I've got it for 50 years. So it takes a little bit of undoing of those habits of digging deep but somewhat on the sidelines of things. So I kind of sense that this quality would be a good guide for me for the year when I am attempting with the beautiful support of the community and your guidance to admit to the impact and admit to the wisdom and admit to what I can do for people. And it's kind of the admitting but it's new. In sessions with clients, I see it, I hear it. It's very humbling to see the kind of beauty of those stereograms emerging for people and them being surprised that it can be that simple or that they feel so encouraged. But then to be visible for that, that takes that a little bit of divine help to be able to stand in that place and not to shrink away or immediately somehow sabotage it because it's so new and so scary. That's right, yeah. It is a gradual process of being okay standing in that light and having that impact. So amazingly, the time has already started to wrap up. So as we wrap up this conversation, I guess I have two questions for you. One that I definitely want you to share about more about your work. Do you have any offers, offerings that you wanna mention here? But also just to complete this idea of divine, or not complete but continuing on. It's like when we check in again next time on this interview, how might you envision that the divine self-esteem has continued to manifest or to integrate for you? So I have, I am using your course to fix my bugs in the kind of the poor habits or the kind of places where something is not configured right. And so I've been looking at the yearly intentions in January at money in February, but going forward, I need to fix distribution or what you call distribution. That exactly that thing of whatever I create, be it writing or on my art, my courses, that somehow more people see them because that's, I managed to get my Facebook blocked from advertising and so I managed, I'm saying managed. It seems like self-sabotage in the hidden era. So I need to find alternatives to this and I'll be doing a LinkedIn course. We might be able to fix that together. We'll talk often about that. And the point is that I want to learn about the rhythms of being visible regularly and enough that's the piece that, which is completely related to that. Okay, now I'm standing in my self-esteem and it's been the last two months have been amazing coming through. It's like, okay, what does it look like to then be seen for that? That's right. Yes. Well, and this interview series is part of that experience. Well, tell us about your, how you love working with clients at this time. What are some things people can reach out to you about? Yeah, talking of which, right? Like the, so this compassionate review and realignment conversation, I really love it. And I realized that I have had only longer programs for one-to-one work. So I am piloting compassionate review and realignment conversation as a one-off. So this I will be offering to the community as a pilot. And so this is where people can take either one aspect of their work or one problem or one system that they would like to upgrade and figure it out together. You know, just look at the stereogram and see the path through the jungle and get any kind of sense of where the better options lie and where your strengths lie and where there are easy fixes. So I love this conversation. It's very interesting to me. And so I'll be offering this as a one-off. And it's also, of course, a good way to try what it feels like to work with me. So that's gonna be happening. Pilots in this month and in March. And so I want as many guinea pigs as possible for that. Yeah, wonderful. Well, of course, I will put the links to how to follow up with you below, yeah. And then in March, because I, you know, the reason why you notice the space because it's pretty much sprinkled. I started getting that sense of light is here. I see what's dusty. I see what needs rearranging. And because one of my hat is as a decluttering doula, I want to offer a course that will be so very seasonally placed. And I just love how changing, transforming physical space affects our operations and vice versa. And it shows us more of the more soulful or work territory as well. So the title, I have a course coming up in March over three Sundays starting on 11th of March that I call soulful space clearing because you can take one area, one room in your physical space. And however, whatever happens there, whether it's your office or, I don't know, your kitchen or whatever, you can reorganize it, clean it and reorganize it and bring the sense of grace, of visible grace and authenticity into it so that you are kind of all set to come out and I guess like me be visible, right? Visible for the year, for the summer and with the full energy. So that is a fun thing because usually cleaning or clearing or clatter-cleaning or even looking at your gremlins can be kind of overwhelming on your own. And when you have a little bit of encouragement, a little bit of companionship, a little bit of structure, it's a completely different game. So. Oh wow. Yeah, both are wonderful offerings and I hope people will take you up on it and check it out. So look at the links below and yeah. Well, Dorota, we look forward to continuing on. Let's check in again in a few months. So thank you so much for doing this. And thank you. Thank you for holding the space for our incubations and innovations and bug fixing. Priceless, priceless to have the frame and the guidance for it. Thank you, George. Thank you so much.